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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Lord Chronos on November 28, 2014, 03:20:23 AM
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First supp I took was the weider anabolic mega paks, horrible things, tablets were gigantic.
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Does anybody remember Moomiyo or Mumie, the so called Russian Black gold. very dodgy supplements I remember being sold around the same time in the magazines as the megapaks. Amazingly managed to find that it is still being sold in the US. Promoted with the usual Soviet BS.
Moomiyo is a strong Adaptogenic herbal, mineral and organic acid complex from Russia with strong natural anabolic healing properties. It has been used by the Russian military, Olympic athletes, cosmonauts and sports establishment for over four decades for increasing strength, lean muscle mass and for its recuperative powers on mental and physical stresse
http://prosportnutrition.net/moomiyo-overview-and-benefits.aspx (http://)
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Anyone remember Ultimate Orange?
(http://danduchaine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/dan-duchaine-ultimate-orange.jpg)
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Milk
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Milk
Sorry cant remember that one ;)
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ultimate orange was the stuff,i loved it.felt like u did speed after u drank it,i remember back in the early 80,s GLANDULARS where the big thing that i took
Raw Orchic (testicular) Tissue (Argentinian bovine) – 150 mg’s
Raw Prostate Tissue (Argentinian bovine) – 150 mg’s
Raw Heart Tissue (U.S. Bovine) – 50 mg’s
Raw Kidney Tissue (Argentinian bovine) – 50 mg’s
Raw Liver Tissue (U.S. bovine) – 50 mg
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whore-pussy
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ultimate orange was the stuff,i loved it.felt like u did speed after u drank it,i remember back in the early 80,s GLANDULARS where the big thing that i took
Raw Orchic (testicular) Tissue (Argentinian bovine) – 150 mg’s
Raw Prostate Tissue (Argentinian bovine) – 150 mg’s
Raw Heart Tissue (U.S. Bovine) – 50 mg’s
Raw Kidney Tissue (Argentinian bovine) – 50 mg’s
Raw Liver Tissue (U.S. bovine) – 50 mg
Glandulars! yes forgot about those things. Prostate tissue yum!
Dessicated liver tablets was another one
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Glandulars! yes forgot about those things. Prostate tissue yum!
Dessicated liver tablets was another one
yea man i used to eat the dessicated liver tabs all thru the day back in the 80's thinking i was gonna get huge by doing that :D,they tasted ruanchy though
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yea man i used to eat the dessicated liver tabs all thru the day back in the 80's thinking i was gonna get huge by doing that :D,they tasted ruanchy though
Lol that along with beef protein powder which seems to have now made a comeback as of late.
Also Vanadyl Sulfate, probably the first attempt at an NO type product.
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Lol that along with beef protein powder which seems to have now made a comeback as of late.
Also Vanadyl Sulfate, probably the first attempt at an NO type product.
yea man i remember when vanadyl hit the scene big,92-93? everyone was talking about it like it was the next big thing,then creatine hit the scene and vanadyl was pushed aside
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yea man i remember when vanadyl hit the scene big,92-93? everyone was talking about it like it was the next big thing,then creatine hit the scene and vanadyl was pushed aside
When I was first taking creatine, I used to hide it in my gymbag so my flatmates didn't find it, and when one of them discovered it I was like "I just need a bit of a boost then i'll go back to being natural again" hahahaha
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When I was first taking creatine, I used to hide it in my gymbag so my flatmates didn't find it, and when one of them discovered it I was like "I just need a bit of a boost then i'll go back to being natural again" hahahaha
my first time i took creatine i noticed almost dbol like gains and some nice strength increases,i was shocked as hell. then after the first time i never had them type of gains again no matter how much i took or what kind i took
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Dessicated liver tabs,i chewed them then threw up.Ultimate orange was the best thing ever on the market,all the ravers used to buy tubs from our gym and sell them as wraps of speed.Remember smilax offiianalis,you were supposed to hold the liquid under the tongue and the label had a warning that said "this may cause in increase in penis size" haha.
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Dessicated liver tabs,i chewed them then threw up.Ultimate orange was the best thing ever on the market,all the ravers used to buy tubs from our gym and sell them as wraps of speed.Remember smilax offiianalis,you were supposed to hold the liquid under the tongue and the label had a warning that said "this may cause in increase in penis size" haha.
HOLY SHIT MAN I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT ABOUT SMILAX :D i was buying that stuff also,i was hoping for great gains but they just never came,to top it off my cock never even grew a quarter of an inch off it either ;D
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It came out in 1985 and cost £50 for a small bottle,which was about half my wages at the time.We had Frank Richards do a seminar at our gym just after the NOC comeback he did and i asked him about it,he just laughed and said you would need about a gallon a day.He said i`ll show you after the seminar what to drink (we had a bar downstairs that served food and drink),and after he had finished with the seminar we sat downstairs till 2 am drinking guinness while he told us stories of when he trained with Arnie and Franco..
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When I was 19 I took tribulus capsules, and about 8 on the first go. That lunch hour I was walking around the supermarket staring everyone down thinking I had the roid rage hahahahahaa
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Phosphagen hp had something more than creatine
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First time I tried creatine I bought the Metrx micronized creatine which was good stuff; but after my first dose I went up to the mountains to recreate and had terrible stomach discomfort. Shat my brains out when I got home.
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met-rx had some genius marketing. mustve made a fortune
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Gainers Fuel.
Was probably 70% sugar. Having the internet back then would have helped!
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When I was 19 I took tribulus capsules, and about 8 on the first go. That lunch hour I was walking around the supermarket staring everyone down thinking I had the roid rage hahahahahaa
lol,we all been thru that crazy stuff man. i remember when i first took dbol and heard the horror stories about liver problems and all,i got a gas pain in my right side and ran upstairs to my mom and said(THIS IS IT IM GONNA DIE SOON AND I WANT YOUS TO KNOW I LOVE U) ;D she brought me to a medi care and the doc said u have a bad case of GAS,LOL. i felt embarrassed as hell, luckily i told my parents that i was just taking a bodybuilding supplement i bought at a bodybuilding store and she didnt know about my dbol,i was only 17.actually just turned 18 come think of it
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Dessicated liver tabs,i chewed them then threw up.Ultimate orange was the best thing ever on the market,all the ravers used to buy tubs from our gym and sell them as wraps of speed.Remember smilax offiianalis,you were supposed to hold the liquid under the tongue and the label had a warning that said "this may cause in increase in penis size" haha.
To this day smilax has no reputable science to suggest it was ever of any benefit to bodybuilders. Back then there was just no scientific evidence for anything, at least today some supps have some science behind them.
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I didn;t touch supplements till about 2002-2003 they had full blown steroids on the market like M1T,superdrol,1-TU, 1-Test cypionate so I lucked out. I was already up on the whole juicing thing and knew juice wasn't very dangerous but their are some products I do believe in and bought.
Vitargo-waxy maize starch
Fish oil
Hydrolyzed whey protein
Milk thistle
Liv-52
VPX redline
DHEA
DAA
that's it. I sold supplements for years and sold alot of shit! but these are the products I did use and believe in.
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Remember being 15 and buying phosphagen and paying 30 odd quid for it after bullshit bill Philipps promised it would pump me up like I was on dianabol, all I got was no gains and bad guts
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To this day smilax has no reputable science to suggest it was ever of any benefit to bodybuilders. Back then there was just no scientific evidence for anything, at least today some supps have some science behind them.
exactly man we coulda been swallowing baby powder in capsules back then and wouldnt of even known it :o
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I didn;t touch supplements till about 2002-2003 they had full blown steroids on the market like M1T,superdrol,1-TU, 1-Test cypionate so I lucked out. I was already up on the whole juicing thing and knew juice wasn't very dangerous but their are some products I do believe in and bought.
Vitargo-waxy maize starch
Fish oil
Hydrolyzed whey protein
Milk thistle
Liv-52
VPX redline
DHEA
DAA
that's it. I sold supplements for years and sold alot of shit! but these are the products I did use and believe in.
Liv-52 that was the go-to supplement for liver protection
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Myoplex and Cell Tech. Dextrose overload
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exactly man we coulda been swallowing baby powder in capsules back then and wouldnt of even known it :o
yeah, I do wonder about that. Im pretty sure with years of supplement use I have been exposed to all sorts of contaminants and unknown chemicals. What effect that will have on our liver and kidneys years down the line is anybodys guess!
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Remember being 15 and buying phosphagen and paying 30 odd quid for it after bullshit bill Philipps promised it would pump me up like I was on dianabol, all I got was no gains and bad guts
EAS Phosphagen is probably to this day the best creatine on the market. I know guys who use juice but still also use phosphagen. These days EAS is owned by abbott wich is a real pharmaceutical
company so not only is EAS Phosphagen the best pharmaceutical creatine it is super cheap these days. I think it taste good! I don;t use it but I have used it and it is great product one worth buying.
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Gainers Fuel.
Was probably 70% sugar. Having the internet back then would have helped!
I loved all those twinlab products, amino fuel, ripped fuel, zma fuel. Bottles looked cool lined up, but did they didn't do fuck ;D
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Mass Action Creatine with HMB and TMG. Shot worked really good for a little bump in strength.
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EAS Phosphagen is probably to this day the best creatine on the market. I know guys who use juice but still also use phosphagen. These days EAS is owned by abbott wich is a real pharmaceutical
company so not only is EAS Phosphagen the best pharmaceutical creatine it is super cheap these days. I think it taste good! I don;t use it but I have used it and it is great product one worth buying.
I had good gains the first time using phosphagen, but I think creapure creatine is the best these days.
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I had good gains the first time using phosphagen, but I think creapure creatine is the best these days.
max muscle ARM is a good product it has creapure in it along with alot of other good stuff,it is a mainly a waxy maize intra workout product great for guys who use insulin.
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I loved all those twinlab products, amino fuel, ripped fuel, zma fuel. Bottles looked cool lined up, but did they didn't do fuck ;D
I remember not having cash and putting a "carbo fuel" or something like that on my gym account after EVERY workout. Paying the $80 or something after 2 months was a reality check.
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(http://muscle-insider.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/cybergenics.jpg)
They promised steroid-like gains...except in New York.
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When I was 19 I took tribulus capsules, and about 8 on the first go. That lunch hour I was walking around the supermarket staring everyone down thinking I had the roid rage hahahahahaa
(http://www.andreascahling.com/images/products/detail/Tribestan.jpg)
This was supposed to be the top tribulus back in the day...
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And the tablets - those chalky tablets. York were even worse!!!
THE BEEF
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(http://natural-herbs-market.co.uk/image/data/tribestan_2_billboard.jpg)
Tribestan Tribulus for bodybuilders - Bulgarian Airline Pilot Approved!!
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and people complain about the taste of todays supplements :D
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this was another hot seller back in the late 80's erly 90's
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And the tablets - those chalky tablets. York were even worse!!!
THE BEEF
Forgot about York, absolute bottom of the barrel stuff. York creatine was like sand.
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Used to take Hot Stuff. ..and that nasty MCT oil... :-\
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this was another hot seller back in the late 80's erly 90's
I never got to try that stuff, but remember a mate going on about that. The other one I wanted to try but never got round to was Metabolol II. "The Metabolic Optimiser". I used to read the magazines and see the the Super Metroid/Tetris inspired label and think wow this must be some powerful shit!
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Does anyone remember the pinnacle myopro protein? It was supposed to inhibit myostatin lol
Also I remember when HMB was supposed to be the next big thing
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(http://images.netrition.com/images/phosphagain2.jpg)
"How does Phosphagain work?
Researchers don't understand the exact mechanisms by which Phosphagain promotes rapid and almost steroid-like gains in lean body mass in weight trainers, but one theory is that it supports cell volumizing which is the uptake of water and nutrients by muscle cells. Some researchers believe that when muscle cells undergo super hydration, they build muscle faster and more efficiently."
Oh brother.
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I never got to try that stuff, but remember a mate going on about that. The other one I wanted to try but never got round to was Metabolol II. "The Metabolic Optimiser". I used to read the magazines and see the the Super Metroid/Tetris inspired label and think wow this must be some powerful shit!
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/313fIBP4khL.jpg)
Lots of memories here. Used Metabolol II, Cybergenics, Anabolic Megapacks, Musco MXT, whatever. I actually got some gains from the stuff that had calories in it.
The shocking thing is that any supplements sell these days, much less that there are millions made on them. How has that entire industry not collapsed with the advent of the Internet and the availability of mail order roids? None of those things work. None. Food is food. Drugs are drugs. Supplements are food and give you food like gains. You will be bigger and stronger today from your thanksgiving meal. That ain't a drug. There is a great truth revealed in the fact that any of this shit still sells.
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Dessicated liver tabs,i chewed them then threw up.Ultimate orange was the best thing ever on the market,all the ravers used to buy tubs from our gym and sell them as wraps of speed.Remember smilax offiianalis,you were supposed to hold the liquid under the tongue and the label had a warning that said "this may cause in increase in penis size" haha.
Dessicated liver tabs also, never chewed them.
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So many memories trying all the different supplements back in the day that all the steroid champs said were the reason for their success.
To this day I worry about all the gain weight stuff I took on for so long. I took all the shakes that had 600 to 700 calories per shake. I would drink them three times a day. Now I know drinking all that fat is so unhealthy.
The worst was this product Wate-on when I was a teenager. One tablespoon was something like 500 calories. It must have been flavored saturated liquid fat. I remember gaining weight like crazy with this stuff getting fat and smooth. I remember after a summer of lifting and taking this stuff I reported for the first day of cross country and the coach said I can't believe how fat you got. I thought I was big and buff.
If I could do it over again I should have embraced my leanness.
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HOLY SHIT MAN I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT ABOUT SMILAX :D i was buying that stuff also,i was hoping for great gains but they just never came,to top it off my cock never even grew a quarter of an inch off it either ;D
I bought (got suckered into buying) SMILAX as well.......it was $35 FOR ONE SMALL BOTTLE!!!!!!!..I bought it about twice and I remember the manager of the store saying to me as I paid, "wow, you must want to fuck 10 girls". Obviously a con job to make me think it was actually worth something but I bought into it..... this was in 1992/1993....to this day I'm still kicking myself in the ass for being such a nit wit.....
I also bought Chromium and those Weider multi paks as well...
Weider also had this product called BIG....it was a bunch of tablets you would take which would supposedly make you huge....you had to take 16 PILLS IN ONE SERVING, TWICE A DAY and the pills were big as hell!!!!...My brother was taking them one day and at about the 10th pill he started to gag and choke!..LOL..it was the funniest thing but he threw them away after that
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my first time i took creatine i noticed almost dbol like gains and some nice strength increases,i was shocked as hell. then after the first time i never had them type of gains again no matter how much i took or what kind i took
same here..I started taking Cell-Tech and had some awesome strength and size gains....people couldn't belive how big and hard I was.....the only problem was I would shit acid..it burned my asshole every time I went to the bathroom.....
I went off of Cell-tech for a time and then when I got back on it again............NOTHING .
However, a few years later I got on SIZE-ON and I was so fucking hard.....my chest and arms were like granite.....another thing that worked for me was the old HYDROYCUT......I lost 30 pounds on that stuff...my heart would be racing like it was gonna come outof my chest......I lost weight and had no appetite.....but when I stopped taking it my appetite came back with a vengence and I gained back all the weight and more...LOL
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met-rx had some genius marketing. mustve made a fortune
I agree...but you can't even find Met-Rx in the stores any more...even though I hear they are still in business
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I loved all those twinlab products, amino fuel, ripped fuel, zma fuel. Bottles looked cool lined up, but did they didn't do fuck ;D
ZMA didn't do shit bodybuilding wise but it used to give me some awesome very realistic vivid dreams.....I swear to you, no bullshit, I had a dream that I was fighting a monster on Mars and it was like I was in a videogame , it was so damn real
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(http://muscle-insider.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/cybergenics.jpg)
They promised steroid-like gains...except in New York.
I was going to buy this..I remember they had Markus Ruhl on the box, saying this is what he used.....wow...I really fell for that one
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I was going to buy this..I remember they had Markus Ruhl on the box, saying this is what he used.....wow...I really fell for that one
I remember going to the store to get some of this stuff, but they were "out of stock" ... so I was spared wasting money on this.
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Lots of memories here. Used Metabolol II, Cybergenics, Anabolic Megapacks, Musco MXT, whatever. I actually got some gains from the stuff that had calories in it.
The shocking thing is that any supplements sell these days, much less that there are millions made on them. How has that entire industry not collapsed with the advent of the Internet and the availability of mail order roids? None of those things work. None. Food is food. Drugs are drugs. Supplements are food and give you food like gains. You will be bigger and stronger today from your thanksgiving meal. That ain't a drug. There is a great truth revealed in the fact that any of this shit still sells.
the stuff still sells because the government by and large leaves the supplement companies alone and doesn't prosecute them for false advertising.....the ONLY time the government gets involved is if THE SUPPLEMENT ACTUALLY WORKS........THEN THE GOVERNMENT SWOOPS IN TO SEE WHATS IN THE STUFF....a good example of this is the very first HYDROXYCUT/EPHEDRA which was an awesome weight/fat reducer that the government banned because three people died, and that supplement that Rich Gaspari used to sell which actually provided great gains but which they found had real steroids in it...the government made Gaspari pay a fine and Gaspari had to change the formula and now its just regular junk like everything else
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Aside from regular vitamins/minerals -
My mom use to buy -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tracis_retro/2554082184/in/photostream/ .
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/hpc/detail-page/c26-B001SB2S78-1-l.jpg).
Very basic Protein/carb thing that I'd have before school, I can't find the old container, but these were similar. Remember the name though.
First teenage stack was -
(http://home.coqui.net/jlromang/metform.jpg).
Not bad.
Also, original Phosphagain which was awful only vanilla flavored stuff that salty, and came in giant mashed potato flake type tin cans.
And
(http://static.caloriecount.about.com/images/medium/abb-performance-beverage-steel-61870.jpg).
Which were really good.
All the stuff was bought on a fresh -
(http://biggspark.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/gncgoldcard.jpg).
That I got for my birthday.
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met-rx had some genius marketing. mustve made a fortune
Bill Phillips, golden touch for hyping supplements. Ability that feels like Deca.
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Bill Phillips, golden touch for hyping supplements. Ability that feels like Deca.
Agreed....you gotta admit his marketing bullshit moved a lot of product and got a lot of people into the gym
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the stuff still sells because the government by and large leaves the supplement companies alone and doesn't prosecute them for false advertising.....the ONLY time the government gets involved is if THE SUPPLEMENT ACTUALLY WORKS........THEN THE GOVERNMENT SWOOPS IN TO SEE WHATS IN THE STUFF....a good example of this is the very first HYDROXYCUT/EPHEDRA which was an awesome weight/fat reducer that the government banned because three people died, and that supplement that Rich Gaspari used to sell which actually provided great gains but which they found had real steroids in it...the government made Gaspari pay a fine and Gaspari had to change the formula and now its just regular junk like everything else
That was during the huge designer steroid circa 2005 and gaspari had bruce kneller designing his products and he came up with this designer steroid called halodrol-50 and I'll be honest I had tried every oral steroid there is and that halodrol-50 that was sold just for a few weeks before they changed the formula was fucking insane! To this day I have not used a oral that potent.Halodrol-50 was DMT(desoxy Methyl Testosterone) (Turinabol precursor) and a nice masking agent to top it off. very expensive it was 45$ for 30 tabs but 30 tabs lasted a month and that is about all you can run halo for. I saw a guy turn yellow and get jaundice from that first run of halodrol-50 and he had to go to the ER. I made it through the full 30 days and hit the best condtioning of my life but I was also on other anabolics. I have some methyl-Trenbolone and I wonder if that will beat out that first run halodrol-50.
Most people think they have tried halodrol-50 but that was the re-formulated halo-50 the real deal Gaspari halodrol-50 was only on the market for about a month.
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That was during the huge designer steroid circa 2005 and gaspari had bruce kneller designing his products and he came up with this designer steroid called halodrol-50 and I'll be honest I had tried every oral steroid there is and that halodrol-50 that was sold just for a few weeks before they changed the formula was fucking insane! To this day I have not used a oral that potent.Halodrol-50 was DMT(desoxy Methyl Testosterone) (Turinabol precursor) and a nice masking agent to top it off. very expensive it was 45$ for 30 tabs but 30 tabs lasted a month and that is about all you can run halo for. I saw a guy turn yellow and get jaundice from that first run of halodrol-50 and he had to go to the ER. I made it through the full 30 days and hit the best condtioning of my life but I was also on other anabolics. I have some methyl-Trenbolone and I wonder if that will beat out that first run halodrol-50.
Most people think they have tried halodrol-50 but that was the re-formulated halo-50 the real deal Gaspari halodrol-50 was only on the market for about a month.
Good history lesson here.....great post...I didn't realize it was out for only ONE MONTH!...Your testimony on this stuff makes me wish I could have tried it.....but you could only run it for 30 days?....it was THAT powerful??
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MLO weight gainer. Shit tasted awesome!!! I'd drink that after my lunch and fart all day...
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Bill Phillips, golden touch for hyping supplements. Ability that feels like Deca.
I got fucked by that too! I bought 3 months supply of beta gen for the first photo shoot when I was 19 or so, lol! Shit was like $120/month to use. Bill phillips even had me drinking soy protein before bed as it was touted to keep your thyroid up when dieting. Stuff was so nasty to put down....
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I remember Joe Weider's weight gain powder tasted like chalk dust and ass put together.....
I also remember believing those were ACTUALLY Joe Weider's arms when they had a picture of him posing with his arms crossed on the labels :D
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The old school supplement I tried that I felt something was the original Ultimate Orange.
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Ultimate Orange is the one supplement I wish I could bring back. Expensive for it's time, but it really worked better than the claims.
I still remember the non-standardized nature of it, it was like they opened a bottle of Diet Fuel, and emptied the pills into Tang.
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wasnt ultimate orange just ephedrine and then without it it lost its effect?
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wasnt ultimate orange just ephedrine and then without it it lost its effect?
It was something like 25mg of Ephedrine in the form of Ma Huang.
200mg of Caffeine
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16g of medium digesting carbs.
and a little protein.
I might be off a tiny bit on the numbers, but it was something like that. In practice though, you could wind up with a lot more Ephedrine, because it was raw Ma Huang just dumped in the mix.
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Went from desiccated liver straight to Dianabol. ;D
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HMB, as it felt like deca.
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Went from desiccated liver straight to Dianabol. ;D
You then had a desiccated liver from the Dbol. ;D
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You then had a desiccated liver from the Dbol. ;D
Good one, but I only got 100 tabs from my Dr took 2 daily for 50 days before a show. Put on 7 pounds while not eating much up to the show. Wish I could have gotten more but they were discontinued that month and I happened to get what was left on the shelf.
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HMB, as it felt like deca.
At what doses did you run Deca, Rob?
THE BEEF
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ZMA didn't do shit bodybuilding wise but it used to give me some awesome very realistic vivid dreams.....I swear to you, no bullshit, I had a dream that I was fighting a monster on Mars and it was like I was in a videogame , it was so damn real
;D
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i think zma still can do that, im not trying it but from what ive read it can affect your sleep/dreams quite a bit
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You then had a desiccated liver from the Dbol. ;D
WAS IT OLD SCHOOL CIBA-GIEGY DBOLS? THEY WHERE THE BEST EVER
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Phosphagen hp had something more than creatine
Def. Allot of the 1st generation EAS products were "potent." Hmm
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At first eggwhites like Rocky Balboa
First protein powder was `AS Arnold Schwarzeneggers Aminovit`.
Mike Mentzer wrote in his Heavy Duty Book that he drank lots of `Chrash Weght Gain No.7`, so did I then.
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At first eggwhites like Rocky Balboa
First protein powder was `AS Arnold Schwarzeneggers Aminovit`.
Mike Mentzer wrote in his Heavy Duty Book that he drank lots of `Chrash Weght Gain No.7`, so did I then.
wasnt that a weider product?the crash weight gain stuff i mean?
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wasnt that a weider product?the crash weight gain stuff i mean?
Yes, it was from weider, but I couldn`t find the original old can on the net and I didn`t save any of them.
Thats why I posted the pic, thought its better than none.
They also recommended it for women. I guess Thats Betty Weider on the old commercial with the original can from Weider..
Mike Mentzer wrote he took tons of it. As far as I remember, he wrote his weight was at the age of 17 about 113 kg and he could do squats with 270 kg. Its a while ago since I read the manuals of him, so don`t nail me on it. Maybe he was just doing Weider a favor.
I started with with running, but I were skinny and wanted to ``get bigger``When I stopped running and changed to weightlifting this stuff gave me good gains. I went up from 140 pounds to 170 pounds in 1 year, of course not all lean muscle, but people could see that I lift.
I trained at home with dumbbells first, at that time there were no gyms in my town. Took Crash Weight Gain it day in day out. Taking this stuff today in the same amounts, it would give me a ton of fat. Looks like the body burns much more calories when youre young.
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Yes, it was from weider, but I couldn`t find the original old can on the net and I didn`t saved any of them.
Thats why I posted the pic, thought its better than none.
They also recommended it for women. I guess Thats Betty Weider on the old commercial with the original can from Weider..
Mike Mentzer wrote he took tons of it. As far as I remember, he wrotw his weight was at the age of 17 about 113 kg and he could do squats with 270 kg. Its a while ago since I read the manuals of him, so don`t nail me on it. Maybe he was just doing Weider a favor.
I started with with running, but I were skinny and wanted to ``get bigger``When I stopped running and changed to weightlifting this stuff gave me good gains. I went up from 140 pounds to 170 pounds in 1 year, of course not all lean muscle, but people could see that I lift.
I trained at home with dumbbells first, at that time there were no gyms in my town. Took Crash Weight Gain it day in day out. Taking this stuff today in the same amounts, it would give me a ton of fat. Looks like the body burns much more calories when youre young.
thats cool u made them great gains in a short period,u r right though about if we took that stuff now we gain mostly fat cause like u said r metabolisms r smoking at that young age.im not saying the stuff u where taking from weider was total junk but i think most of your gains came from u stopping running and using weights more. to b honest i think menzter was just kissing weiders ass buy saying that in his manuals,i ordered the heavy duty manuals back in 78-79 or so and remember reading something about that,i was using the MLO protien though cause my buddy got it real cheap back then. i did read somewhere though that weiders products back in the early 80,s where found to be loaded with suger,and didnt have pretty much nothing in it they said was supposed to b in it.i did use weider products back then once in awhile also so i prolly got ripped off and didnt even know it :-[
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thats cool u made them great gains in a short period,u r right though about if we took that stuff now we gain mostly fat cause like u said r metabolisms r smoking at that young age.im not saying the stuff u where taking from weider was total junk but i think most of your gains came from u stopping running and using weights more. to b honest i think menzter was just kissing weiders ass buy saying that in his manuals,i ordered the heavy duty manuals back in 78-79 or so and remember reading something about that,i was using the MLO protien though cause my buddy got it real cheap back then. i did read somewhere though that weiders products back in the early 80,s where found to be loaded with suger,and didnt have pretty much nothing in it they said was supposed to b in it.i did use weider products back then once in awhile also so i prolly got ripped off and didnt even know it :-[
that was the main reason, think youre right. of course CWG No.7 had lots of sugar. the guy in the shop told me to eat more mashed potatoes and stuff like that, honest guy, wanting not to ripp me off, but I was somewhat obsessed with all the commercials in the magazines and bodybuilding books. Knowledge came much later when training in an olympic weightlifting and powerlifting gym. It was cheaper than joining a real gym and lots of professionals trained there. Maybe you heard about Hans-Otto Woehrle, he is in the Guiness Book of records, stepping up a ladder with 360 kg bricks in a tub on his back. I guess most of us were ripped off in the past with crappy products, but like you see in my case, I wanted it that way ;)
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At what doses did you run Deca, Rob?
THE BEEF
My experience with DECA (as well as all other steroids) has been limited to reading about them on getbig. I always said once I was 35, I'd totally get on HRT, but no dropoff, I look better now than I did ten years ago, so no HRT til I'm 45.
The big advertising campaign for HMB at the time was Bill Philips saying "Feels Like Deca!"
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that was the main reason, think youre right. of course CWG No.7 had lots of sugar. the guy in the shop told me to eat more mashed potatoes and stuff like that, honest guy, wanting not to ripp me off, but I was somewhat obsessed with all the commercials in the magazines and bodybuilding books. Knowledge came much later when training in an olympic weightlifting and powerlifting gym. It was cheaper than joining a real gym and lots of professionals trained there. Maybe you heard about Hans-Otto Woehrle, he is in the Guiness Book of records, stepping up a ladder with 360 kg bricks in a tub on his back. I guess most of us were ripped off in the past with crappy products, but like you see in my case, I wanted it that way ;)
u r not alone,i think most of us got suckered in the begining of our bodybuilding journeys,i woulda chewed on horse shit if ARNOLD said its great for bicep mass :D, most of us got suckered so dont feel bad, same thing happened to me as it did to u with joining a real gym,the old timers said to me just EAT GOOD QUALITY FOODS,CHICKEN,MEATS,FISH,EGGS,POTATOES,VEGETABLES ECT.and dont waste your money on that bullshit supplements.thats when the gains came on really nice and i really learned how to TRAIN CORRECTLY
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u r not alone,i think most of us got suckered in the begining of our bodybuilding journeys,i woulda chewed on horse shit if ARNOLD said its great for bicep mass :D, most of us got suckered so dont feel bad, same thing happened to me as it did to u with joining a real gym,the old timers said to me just EAT GOOD QUALITY FOODS,CHICKEN,MEATS,FISH,EGGS,POTATOES,VEGETABLES ECT.and dont waste your money on that bullshit supplements.thats when the gains came on really nice and i really learned how to TRAIN CORRECTLY
agreed...supps are just a waste of money....eat food, eat a lot, and eat well
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Inject, train and eat a balanced diet. Legal supplements, by and large, don't do shit unless we are talking about vitamin/mineral deficiencies. Even in those cases first priority should be to cover your bases with food.
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Aside from regular vitamins/minerals -
My mom use to buy -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tracis_retro/2554082184/in/photostream/ .
(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/hpc/detail-page/c26-B001SB2S78-1-l.jpg).
Very basic Protein/carb thing that I'd have before school, I can't find the old container, but these were similar. Remember the name though.
First teenage stack was -
(http://home.coqui.net/jlromang/metform.jpg).
Not bad.
Also, original Phosphagain which was awful only vanilla flavored stuff that salty, and came in giant mashed potato flake type tin cans.
And
(http://static.caloriecount.about.com/images/medium/abb-performance-beverage-steel-61870.jpg).
Which were really good.
All the stuff was bought on a fresh -
(http://biggspark.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/gncgoldcard.jpg).
That I got for my birthday.
Used to buy both those bars back in the day. Can't forget Hoffman " Club Sandwiches " they were great.
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Good history lesson here.....great post...I didn't realize it was out for only ONE MONTH!...Your testimony on this stuff makes me wish I could have tried it.....but you could only run it for 30 days?....it was THAT powerful??
Yes! It was fucking insane shit but toxic!