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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TEMPER on December 07, 2014, 02:28:21 PM
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Thinking about picking up this Jag in a month or so...The JD Power reliability score on it is about as low as it goes, but the design/luxury rating is as high as it goes.
Just looking for something to cruise to work in, in style. $5k down...$250 a month, so around $20k.
The car is amazing but I worry about the maintenance costs and there are a fuck ton of WAY more reliable cars in this price range, like Lexus, Lincoln, Nissan etc. But NONE of them carry the rarity or upper echelon feel of the XF.
Who gives a shit if your car has super low cost of ownership if you drive a fucking Honda...fucking gross..
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/616764698/overview/#4
I'd be putting this exhaust on it from day 1.
There are also Benz and BMW in the range, but they are so damn plain, and a dime a dozen...Anyone have experience with Jags? Are they just brutal money pits? Worth the sheer gorgeousness ?
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why do people come on here to subtly brag? Just come straight out, man up and say ""Im getting a fucking Jaguar" instead of "Oh I want opinions on this Jaguar I wanna get"
fuck sakes people nut up
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You're trying to justify buying a shitty car in your mind because it used to be expensive few years ago.
There's a reason these depreciate like $50k in 3 years. Because they break, break often, expensive parts, expensive labor, mechanics will add "tax" to your bill because they think you have money...etc etc etc.
You probably won't, but walk away. There are a million cooler and more reliable cars than this.
Only people that will think you're cool in this are canadians/democrats and low income wanna bees.
Hope this helps.
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you can get quite a selection for $20k. what climate do you live in? how far is your drive to work? what's the max mileage you would buy?
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A lad I work with bought a brand new XF estate in Sept and he is not impressed with the reliability. He has been driving a Hyundai courtesy car for the last three weeks.
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why do people come on here to subtly brag? Just come straight out, man up and say ""Im getting a fucking Jaguar" instead of "Oh I want opinions on this Jaguar I wanna get"
fuck sakes people nut up
That't not the point. Spending $20k on a car these days is nothing. Brand new economy cars cost that much.
He's talking about buying a depreciated piece of garbage that will bankrupt him unless he lives with his parents.
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why do people come on here to subtly brag? Just come straight out, man up and say ""Im getting a fucking Jaguar" instead of "Oh I want opinions on this Jaguar I wanna get"
fuck sakes people nut up
I thought buying a 20k used car was the opposite of bragging but ok.
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I thought buying a 20k used car was the opposite of bragging but ok.
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meh Im poor a 20k car is a Bentley for others :-X
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if you want to actually stand out you have to get something with class instead of something all the idiots will ooh and aah about.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LYK5_g9K1Ok/maxresdefault.jpg)
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maybe i'm mistaken but i got the impression he's getting the jag and wants to buy a daily driver for work because he doesn't want to risk doing it with the jag. am i lost here?
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You're trying to justify buying a shitty car in your mind because it used to be expensive few years ago.
There's a reason these depreciate like $50k in 3 years. Because they break, break often, expensive parts, expensive labor, mechanics will add "tax" to your bill because they think you have money...etc etc etc.
You probably won't, but walk away. There are a million cooler and more reliable cars than this.
Only people that will think you're cool in this are canadians/democrats and low income wanna bees.
Hope this helps.
That't not the point. Spending $20k on a car these days is nothing. Brand new economy cars cost that much.
He's talking about buying a depreciated piece of garbage that will bankrupt him unless he lives with his parents.
This is what I'm thinking, only its not a shitty car, and there are NOT a million cooler cars than this for $20k in fact they are all pretty shitty, plain, and boring...The thought of driving a Toyota makes me want to kill myself.
I'm thinking without the factory warranty you'd have to be a fucking millionaire to realistically afford to own one of these.
BUT IT'S SO GODDAMN BEAUTIFUL AND LUXURIOUS!! Compare it to a 2009 Lexus GS350 with 70k miles, same price, shit design, shit luxury by comparison, a fucking Toyota basically BUT award winning reliability and low cost of ownership.
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A lad I work with bought a brand new XF estate in Sept and he is not impressed with the reliability. He has been driving a Hyundai courtesy car for the last three weeks.
Hahha! Yep!
Anytime I see a 5+ year old foreign "luxury" car on the road I just laugh.
Buddy of mine had a 2011 Audi S8. Beautiful car. One of the driver side speakers and window controls went bad. In warranty fix at the dealer was free...otherwise it would've been $3,800 FOR a fucking speaker and button. Totally retarded.
The people that really are wealthy and have money don't waste their money on shitty depreciating cars. It's only neeguls and clueless wanna bees that preoccupy themselves with that shit.
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Hahha! Yep!
Anytime I see a 5+ year old foreign "luxury" car on the road I just laugh.
Buddy of mine had a 2011 Audi S8. Beautiful car. One of the driver side speakers and window controls went bad. In warranty fix at the dealer was free...otherwise it would've been $3,800 FOR a fucking speaker and button. Totally retarded.
The people that really are wealthy and have money don't waste their money on shitty depreciating cars. It's only neeguls and clueless wanna bees that preoccupy themselves with that shit.
Lol you think 21 year old 10's give a fuck that it's 2009...Look at the fucking car for christ's sake...
Compare picking up a 19 year old whore in this, what that exhaust...Now imagine pulling up in a fucking 2015 Nissan Altima.................. ........................
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Hahha! Yep!
Anytime I see a 5+ year old foreign "luxury" car on the road I just laugh.
Buddy of mine had a 2011 Audi S8. Beautiful car. One of the driver side speakers and window controls went bad. In warranty fix at the dealer was free...otherwise it would've been $3,800 FOR a fucking speaker and button. Totally retarded.
The people that really are wealthy and have money don't waste their money on shitty depreciating cars. It's only neeguls and clueless wanna bees that preoccupy themselves with that shit.
Haha, I drive a three year old Alfa Romeo. I have to pray to the gods before every journey.
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This is what I'm thinking, only its not a shitty car, and there are NOT a million cooler cars than this for $20k in fact they are all pretty shitty, plain, and boring...The thought of driving a Toyota makes me want to kill myself.
I'm thinking without the factory warranty you'd have to be a fucking millionaire to realistically afford to own one of these.
BUT IT'S SO GODDAMN BEAUTIFUL AND LUXURIOUS!! Compare it to a 2009 Lexus GS350 with 70k miles, same price, shit design, shit luxury by comparison, a fucking Toyota basically BUT award winning reliability and low cost of ownership.
Why the fuk is everyone preoccupied with "luxury" these days?? Luxury everything. Luxury clothes, restaurants, clubs, hotels, coffee, ...blah fucking blah. When I hear luxury it translates to "lame marketing".
I like vehicles with character. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of cars now a days that I would love to own and drive but it's a giant rip off....i.e. Mercedes AMGs, BMW M cars....etc etc etc
Last 2 cars I purchased were a 2002 Porsche 911 $22k (3 years ago) 2007 vette, ...next car will probably a 996 911 turbo. 911s are reliable when treated properly and hold their value very well.
Next non sports car purchase will probably be a GMC/Chevy k5 blazer or c10 truck. Cheap, reliable, easy to work on....pure awesome.
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Haha, I drive a three year old Alfa Romeo. I have to pray to the gods before every journey.
I drive a 1999 Ford Ranger...I paid $3k for it in 2012...Haven't put more than $500 into it since that day lol, not so much as a tire....
BUT I HAVE TO BE SEEN IN THAT PIECE OF SHIT LOL
I'm just saying...Maybe $3k a year in maintenance is worth living my life driving a $60k (at one time) luxury/sport sedan...Instead of spending $0.00 on maintenance and driving a fucking Mazda.....
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Lol you think 21 year old 10's give a fuck that it's 2009...Look at the fucking car for christ's sake...
Compare picking up a 19 year old whore in this, what that exhaust...Now imagine pulling up in a fucking 2015 Nissan Altima.................. ........................
Obviously you're a clueless insecure virgin with no personality that thinks cars are only way to con bitches into fucking you.
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Haha, I drive a three year old Alfa Romeo. I have to pray to the gods before every journey.
Hahha...atleast you realize it.
Buddy of mine is a mechanic and has few Alfa Romeo stories. Best one was when a customer brought his in for a simple issue and on the test drive to make sure everything is ok, another thing broke. This happened 3 times. Thing would literally break before something got fixed.
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Beautiful car, go for it if you like it. Who gives a shit about depreciation, you might die tomorrow, enjoy what you like until you can.
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What if you don't die tomorrow? You're stuck with a POS
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Obviously you're a clueless insecure virgin with no personality that thinks cars are only way to con bitches into fucking you.
Whoa whoa whoa...Picking up the fucking whore means I already pulled her, and I am taking her to a restaurant where she'll eat a small salad before I plow her..
I'm just saying...In the real world people judge you, I have pulled multiple fine young women in my 1999 Ford Pickup truck, but still...Pulling up in a Jag XF..I mean come on 8)
Plus fuck these whores I WANT THE CAR lol I want to drive a nice car even though I (don't want to) afford the $600 a month I'd pay for a 2015 XF
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What if you don't die tomorrow? You're stuck with a POS
than life goes on, who gives a shit. He likes the car, so go for it.
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What if you don't die tomorrow? You're stuck with a POS
lol dude you bought a car that was $70-150k brand new in 2002 10 years later for $20k (that isn't even a Turbo) you sir drive a depreciated POS...Albeit a beautiful one, Porsche is my all time dream car, but not a 2002 with no turbo, which is what I can afford lol.
But it would seem that we're in the same boat...If shit hits the fan with that Porsche you're out $1k minimum...Same with the Jag. With proper maintenance it will last forever and hold SOME value..
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Along with team sports, I never understood the need for an expensive, flashy car. As long as the car gets you from point A to point B and you don't die, who cares if it cost 15,000 or 80,000. Most people who buy these type of cars do so for one reason: to show off to others. I can't envision no other reason to buy an expensive car. Save the, "Well, I am a car guy." :-\ :-\ You're only a car guy because society has placed a value on cars, thus you became a car guy to show off to others. When society places a value on anything, people jump on the bandwagon to get it.
I'm just saying...In the real world people judge you,
And what does it matter if people judge you? At least care about being judged on the important things. Not a car. You care that much about being judged by the car you drive? :-\ :-\
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Buy this car. It looks great. Forget about that piece of shit you posted.
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Along with team sports, I never understood the need for an expensive, flashy car. As long as the car gets you from point A to point B and you don't die, who cares if it cost 15,000 or 80,000. Most people who buy these type of cars do so for one reason: to show off to others. I can't envision no other reason to buy an expensive car. Save the, "Well, I am a car guy." :-\ :-\ You're only a car guy because society has placed a value on cars, thus you became a car guy to show off to others. When society places a value on anything, people jump on the bandwagon to get it.
It's actually because I get pure enjoyment out of looking at shit like this with my life...
(http://jangcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2015-Jaguar-XF-Interior.jpg)
As opposed to this...
(http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Chevrolet/chevy_Cavalier_manu-00_i01-1024.jpg)
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Along with team sports, I never understood the need for an expensive, flashy car. As long as the car gets you from point A to point B and you don't die, who cares if it cost 15,000 or 80,000. Most people who buy these type of cars do so for one reason: to show off to others. I can't envision no other reason to buy an expensive car. Save the, "Well, I am a car guy." :-\ :-\ You're only a car guy because society has placed a value on cars, thus you became a car guy to show off to others. When society places a value on anything, people jump on the bandwagon to get it.
you have a point but you miss the main one, pleasure/enjoyment. If we live life with no pleasure what is the purpose? Many people find a pleasure/enjoyment in driving expensive fast cars.
Do you think Arnold (or anyone of that caliber) is driving expensive cars to show off?
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It's actually because I get pure enjoyment out of looking at shit like this with my life...
(http://jangcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2015-Jaguar-XF-Interior.jpg)
As opposed to this...
(http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Chevrolet/chevy_Cavalier_manu-00_i01-1024.jpg)
I guess to each their own. It's baffling how someone can get enjoyment out of a car. Then again, some people get pure enjoyment from science or art.
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Dreaming about buying a car and how cool it would be to have it is a lot cheaper than actually buying it. That's what I have been doing for years. Think about it. It's all in the mind.
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Buy this car. It looks great. Forget about that piece of shit you posted.
Probably the closest thing to that I could afford:
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/621368755/overview/
(http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/210151/11143/04.jpg)
(http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/210151/11143/01.jpg)
Guaranteed to be an even deeper money pit than the Jag lol..
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Buying an expensive car to drive to work is just hilariously absurd. Do you not realize this? Stop and think about this for a moment and it may sink in...
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Dreaming about buying a car and how cool it would be to have it is a lot cheaper than actually buying it. That's what I have been doing for years. Think about it. It's all in the mind.
lol I like your style...
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you have a point but you miss the main one, pleasure/enjoyment. If we live life with no pleasure what is the purpose? Many people find a pleasure/enjoyment in driving expensive fast cars.
Do you think Arnold (or anyone of that caliber) is driving expensive cars to show off?
Arnold is different. Arnold can drive a beat the shit out of car, and still be Arnold. In the same way that Bill Gates drove to meetings in his Ford Taurus. These guys buy expensive cars because they actually like them when they do buy them. They don't buy them to show off because no matter what they drive they are still of a specific caliber. And people know this.
However, I think a lot of people who are not of their caliber (arnold or bill gates) buys expensive car to try and keep up with the Jones's. Its our way to try and stand out from the crowd, to be better and more richer than the next guy. Arnold and Bill Gates don't need to buy an expensive car to do this because they are who they are and everyone knows them. More menial people try to reach this level by splurging on things, not because they truly enjoy them, because of the way it appears to others. TEMPER wrote in a previous post that people judge in the real world. He stated, "I'm just saying...In the real world people judge you," Clearly he is worried about people judging him by the car he drives.
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Arnold is different. Arnold can drive a beat the shit out of car, and still be Arnold. In the same way that Bill Gates drove to meetings in his Ford Taurus. These guys buy expensive cars because they actually like them when they do buy them. They don't buy them to show off because no matter what they drive they are still of a specific caliber. And people know this.
However, I think a lot of people who are not of their caliber (arnold or bill gates) buys expensive car to try and keep up with the Jones's. Its our way to try and stand out from the crowd, to be better and more richer than the next guy. Arnold and Bill Gates don't need to buy an expensive car to do this because they are who they are and everyone knows them. More menial people try to reach this level by splurging on things, not because they truly enjoy them, because of the way it appears to others. TEMPER wrote in a previous post that people judge in the real world. Clearly he is worried about people judging him by the car he drives.
Oh it's absolutely a status symbol. You are 100% correct on that.
But that's only when it's a new off the lot lease for $100k...When it's 5 years old and costs $20k it's just my way of enjoying a slice of a $100k lease on my budget.
Could I technically afford to spend $600 a month on some 2015 Jag...Yes. Would I rather spend $250 a month on the 5 year old version. Yes.
BUT the $600 a month vehicle has a 100% coverage warranty, the $250 does not, so the minute something happens that costs $3k...You're up to $600 a month ANYWAY in the older cheaper car. So it's all about hoping a praying nothing serious falls off the POS...
There are gives and takes.
When your budget is $10 a $20k car seems fancy and overpriced, but when you make $4k a month a $250 a month vehicle is just meh...So why not go AS high class as you can for that $250 a month? See my reasoning?
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My car:
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Arnold is different. Arnold can drive a beat the shit out of car, and still be Arnold. In the same way that Bill Gates drove to meetings in his Ford Taurus. These guys buy expensive cars because they actually like them when they do buy them. They don't buy them to show off because no matter what they drive they are still of a specific caliber. And people know this.
However, I think a lot of people who are not of their caliber (arnold or bill gates) buys expensive car to try and keep up with the Jones's. Its our way to try and stand out from the crowd, to be better and more richer than the next guy. Arnold and Bill Gates don't need to buy an expensive car to do this because they are who they are and everyone knows them. More menial people try to reach this level by splurging on things, not because they truly enjoy them, because of the way it appears to others. TEMPER wrote in a previous post that people judge in the real world. He stated, "I'm just saying...In the real world people judge you," Clearly he is worried about people judging him by the car he drives.
Doesn't have to be Arnold's caliber.
I guy I know bought Ferrari Italia last year and he is not super ritch or anything like it. He has quite successful business, a couple mill worth home, and another car, Range Rover Sport.
You only need to see him in this car, he looks like a kid in candy shop. It is all pleasure for him, not a show off at all. I remember him saying he always wanted to drive Ferrari and finally he can afford one so he bought it. A pure meaning of word pleasure. Of course there is plenty of people buying it for show off but we cannot put all in the same boat.
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You seem like the kind of guy who finds a wife on Tinder and doesn't mind when she cheats on you.
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As long as the car gets you from point A to point B
That's all I care about , I have never owned a brand new car .
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lol dude you bought a car that was $70-150k brand new in 2002 10 years later for $20k (that isn't even a Turbo) you sir drive a depreciated POS...Albeit a beautiful one, Porsche is my all time dream car, but not a 2002 with no turbo, which is what I can afford lol.
But it would seem that we're in the same boat...If shit hits the fan with that Porsche you're out $1k minimum...Same with the Jag. With proper maintenance it will last forever and hold SOME value..
Not even close man. Not even close.
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Probably the closest thing to that I could afford:
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/621368755/overview/
(http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/210151/11143/04.jpg)
(http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/210151/11143/01.jpg)
Guaranteed to be an even deeper money pit than the Jag lol..
Hideous wheels.
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Just face the facts you are a poor sack of shit and keep driving asian shit boxes like the rest of us.
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Oh it's absolutely a status symbol. You are 100% correct on that.
But that's only when it's a new off the lot lease for $100k...When it's 5 years old and costs $20k it's just my way of enjoying a slice of a $100k lease on my budget.
Could I technically afford to spend $600 a month on some 2015 Jag...Yes. Would I rather spend $250 a month on the 5 year old version. Yes.
BUT the $600 a month vehicle has a 100% coverage warranty, the $250 does not, so the minute something happens that costs $3k...You're up to $600 a month ANYWAY in the older cheaper car. So it's all about hoping a praying nothing serious falls off the POS...
There are gives and takes.
When your budget is $10 a $20k car seems fancy and overpriced, but when you make $4k a month a $250 a month vehicle is just meh...So why not go AS high class as you can for that $250 a month? See my reasoning?
$600 a month payment is roughly a $30k car loan with 60 month term.
Your math is way off.
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Just face the facts you are a poor sack of shit and keep driving asian shit boxes like the rest of us.
ahahahahahha!
I'll explain this the best I can. Everyone WANTS a nice expensive luxury foreign car. Myself included.
....UNTIL shit starts breaking and you realize that sweet car you bought for next to nothing compared to the original MSRP, then you have to fork over few grand 1,2, 3 times a year ...then that want for said vehicle will wear off.
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why do people come on here to subtly brag? Just come straight out, man up and say ""Im getting a fucking Jaguar" instead of "Oh I want opinions on this Jaguar I wanna get"
fuck sakes people nut up
Yep Internet for u no surprise on a bbing forum where many take illegal drugs for gains, go figure :D
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Probably the closest thing to that I could afford:
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/621368755/overview/
(http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/210151/11143/04.jpg)
(http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/210151/11143/01.jpg)
Guaranteed to be an even deeper money pit than the Jag lol..
Looks like something a Hebrew would drive
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If you need to borrow money for a 20k car like that, you could easily come unstuck.
You'd easily be looking at 10k for a new gearbox plus an extended time waiting for delivery of the parts where you'd need to be hiring.
Hell, just a set of tires is probably gonna run you $500-$1000.
New windscreen $1000 minimum...
Plus these cars arent common enough where refurb parts are easy to come by.
In the long run, it just aint worth the street cred.
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ahahahahahha!
I'll explain this the best I can. Everyone WANTS a nice expensive luxury foreign car. Myself included.
....UNTIL shit starts breaking and you realize that sweet car you bought for next to nothing compared to the original MSRP, then you have to fork over few grand 1,2, 3 times a year ...then that want for said vehicle will wear off.
i bought an asian car with 5,750miles on it only so good as new and less than a year old for $ 9000
been driving it for two years it got about 45,000 miles now, so far no problems at all, had to change front tires because they wore out which was really cheap as well. maintenance checkups i did 2 so far, it was real cheap too and no issues
hope this piece of crap will last a few more years
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$600 a month payment is roughly a $30k car loan with 60 month term.
Your math is way off.
$50k vehicle
$10k down / $2k trade in
72 months
2% interest
6% sales tax
$605 a month
The 2015 Jag part was the off part, it would be a 2014 Jag XF for 50k.
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good luck,,its a beautiful car,i like the look 100 pct,,,but,,,i work in car industry warranty end 13 yrs bmw,,service writer porshe /volvo 4 yrs +..i get people to spend 2/3000 g's at a time for vehicles 2005/2009 'non warraty/extended warranty/outside warranty'all the time,,most maintence oil/brakes/flushes ,,but 50 k and up mileage wise depending how hard there driven suspension parts start wearing and tires take a beating due to it as well..leasing and handing car back is easier option to some 'give it back'move on or release newer model 'version'u had...or buy something and either get factory extension or aftermarket warranty which will usually carry deductible 100-300 is avg ,still good deal if u fix car for say 2000.00 or so u fork over that little bit...i'm in same boat have 5 series bmw 2004 only 109,000 great shape,,over yrs did starter/alt 2x/battery 2x,,brakes/tires/oil,,lucky for me i buy parts pay my tech to install ;D,,,good luck temper..jag's for what is worth look great in driveway and shitty on flat bed 'thats there rep''like rovers...
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Along with team sports, I never understood the need for an expensive, flashy car. As long as the car gets you from point A to point B and you don't die, who cares if it cost 15,000 or 80,000. Most people who buy these type of cars do so for one reason: to show off to others. I can't envision no other reason to buy an expensive car. Save the, "Well, I am a car guy." :-\ :-\ You're only a car guy because society has placed a value on cars, thus you became a car guy to show off to others. When society places a value on anything, people jump on the bandwagon to get it.
I'm just saying...In the real world people judge you,
And what does it matter if people judge you? At least care about being judged on the important things. Not a car. You care that much about being judged by the car you drive? :-\ :-\
I kind of agree with you, but I must admit it would be nice to have a sports car like a Porche of Ferrari for the one and only reason that it is some fucking cool cars! I never gave a flying fuck what others think, so I know I would`nt buy one for "their pleasure". ::)
First and foremost, when Im done studying and my economi is finally booming again, I will get a car thats all about class, like a BMW or Audi. You gotta have a car that fits your persona imo. 8)
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I kind of agree with you, but I must admit it would be nice to have a sports car like a Porche of Ferrari for the one and only reason that it is some fucking cool cars! I never gave a flying fuck what others think, so I know I would`nt buy one for "their pleasure". ::)
First and foremost, when Im done studying and my economi is finally booming again, I will get a car thats all about class, like a BMW or Audi. You gotta have a car that fits your persona imo. 8)
stop lying to yourself
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stop lying to yourself
Well if thats not the biggest contradiction this year, then I dont know what is, Mr.Halo..... ;)
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Thing about reliability... If you drive a crap jap basic model, you may pat yourself on the back for getting a car that on paper is more reliable than a BMW, Merc etc
Thing is though, they are more reliabele 'cause there's fuck all in them.
The luxury cars are equipped to the wazoo. You cant compare a 5 speed manual fuel injected car with a twin turbo 8 speed automatic that changes gear in a few hundredths of a second and has the ability to switch from auto to manual gears controlled from pedals on the steering wheel.
When you drive these well equipped cars, you feel the difference.
Warranty is an essential part of owning such a car too. You dont buy that much equipment and keep your fingers crossed.
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Horsepower and Sport exhaust is for teen boys! Please grow up! Buy quiet comfort! Drive with style!
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Horsepower and Sport exhaust is for teen boys! Please grow up! Buy quiet comfort! Drive with style!
actually hp and making a little noise are called 'fun.' only dead, boring fucks roll around at the speed limit in a car that does nothing more than look like a 900 year old man is behind the wheel.
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actually hp and making a little noise are called 'fun.' only dead, boring fucks roll around at the speed limit in a car that does nothing more than look like a 900 year old man is behind the wheel.
lol...yeah,,
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actually hp and making a little noise are called 'fun.' only dead, boring fucks roll around at the speed limit in a car that does nothing more than look like a 900 year old man is behind the wheel.
Conversely I always wonder wtf when I see a midlife crisis driving his new vette or viper at exactly the speed limit late at night on the freeway, seriously why not just get a corolla if that's all you're going to do with it?
Driving the wife's z4 the other day I got eaten alive by an older dude in an r8 which made me smile , narrow bridges with no spots for po po to camp = win
Jag, mm no thanks. Too old man vibe and unreliable as they come.
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$50k vehicle
$10k down / $2k trade in
72 months
2% interest
6% sales tax
$605 a month
The 2015 Jag part was the off part, it would be a 2014 Jag XF for 50k.
Nope. With your upfront $12k you threw down the monthly payment becomes $771/month of a hugely depreciating asset not including insurance. Unless you're making $200k a year or own a business $771 a month for a car is beyond retarded.
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I kind of agree with you, but I must admit it would be nice to have a sports car like a Porche of Ferrari for the one and only reason that it is some fucking cool cars! I never gave a flying fuck what others think, so I know I would`nt buy one for "their pleasure". ::)
First and foremost, when Im done studying and my economi is finally booming again, I will get a car thats all about class, like a BMW or Audi. You gotta have a car that fits your persona imo. 8)
I hope you're trolling. You sound like a total homo douche.
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Conversely I always wonder wtf when I see a midlife crisis driving his new vette or viper at exactly the speed limit late at night on the freeway, seriously why not just get a corolla if that's all you're going to do with it?
Driving the wife's z4 the other day I got eaten alive by an older dude in an r8 which made me smile , narrow bridges with no spots for po po to camp = win
Jag, mm no thanks. Too old man vibe and unreliable as they come.
that's why they ake hummers and big ass trucks. size can be fun too. not too mention the whole 4x4/off-road community. jeeps are a hell of a good time in many scenarios.
an old man in a vette going 50 everywhere = lame
an old man in a merc sls cruising and making good time to go visit the guys at the club = win
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The place to buy a Jaguar is Miami. The rich people down there pamper their cars and hardly drive them because It's their second home. So the used luxury cars are in mint condition. Take a look on Yahoo auto for XF's for sale within 100 miles of Miami.
For example I saw a 2010 XF for $22k with only 50,000 miles and in mint condition.
Also, a 2009 XF for $25K with only 24,000 miles.
It might be worth a plane ticket down there.
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Buy this car. It looks great. Forget about that piece of shit you posted.
hi AlphaGyno.. oh sorry anabolichalo or maybe both? :D
why you are hiding? how's work and 18" gunz coming along?
baby or not anymore babymama doing good?
how's Ronald dean Coleman doing these days?
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Conversely I always wonder wtf when I see a midlife crisis driving his new vette or viper at exactly the speed limit late at night on the freeway, seriously why not just get a corolla if that's all you're going to do with it?
Driving the wife's z4 the other day I got eaten alive by an older dude in an r8 which made me smile , narrow bridges with no spots for po po to camp = win
Jag, mm no thanks. Too old man vibe and unreliable as they come.
The same could be said about a lot of people on this forum using illegal drugs to attain fake muscles risking your health for no benefits but to have fake muscles to show off to others :D
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My car:
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Sums it the fuck up....
LOLZ@Temper and douchecrowd.. give me a break. I leased a Jag for my wife for about 3 times that with wayyyyy more down...
... but all all delusion aside. You want power? Go with power. American that is.
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Sums it the fuck up....
LOLZ@Temper and douchecrowd.. give me a break. I leased a Jag for my wife for about 3 times that with wayyyyy more down...
... but all all delusion aside. You want power? Go with power. American that is.
How's the hummer big guy?
Agree if you want easy power for the money american is the way to go
As much as I love euro cars for thier performance, driving feel, too many douche wannabes as evidenced in threads like these
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Well if thats not the biggest contradiction this year, then I dont know what is, Mr.Halo..... ;)
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;D :D
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i bought an asian car with 5,750miles on it only so good as new and less than a year old for $ 9000
been driving it for two years it got about 45,000 miles now, so far no problems at all, had to change front tires because they wore out which was really cheap as well. maintenance checkups i did 2 so far, it was real cheap too and no issues
hope this piece of crap will last a few more years
Stop bullshiting, U live in metric/euro country 8)
American diplomats get free wheels, don't U know that senor Leopold :D
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Thinking about picking up this Jag in a month or so...The JD Power reliability score on it is about as low as it goes,
With reference to what you wrote, that car will cost you a lot of money in maintenance. Buy a Mercedes or a BMW or even a Lexus.
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If you cant buy your car new and cash you cant afford it, period.
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Thinking about picking up this Jag in a month or so...The JD Power reliability score on it is about as low as it goes, but the design/luxury rating is as high as it goes.
Just looking for something to cruise to work in, in style. $5k down...$250 a month, so around $20k.
The car is amazing but I worry about the maintenance costs and there are a fuck ton of WAY more reliable cars in this price range, like Lexus, Lincoln, Nissan etc. But NONE of them carry the rarity or upper echelon feel of the XF.
Who gives a shit if your car has super low cost of ownership if you drive a fucking Honda...fucking gross..
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/616764698/overview/#4
I'd be putting this exhaust on it from day 1.
There are also Benz and BMW in the range, but they are so damn plain, and a dime a dozen...Anyone have experience with Jags? Are they just brutal money pits? Worth the sheer gorgeousness ?
With all the f*ck and shits you sound like a 14 year old. Besides, apparently you have to BORROW money to buy a second hand car. A previously owned Honda that you can actually afford will be a smarter choice 8)
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BUT IT'S SO GODDAMN BEAUTIFUL AND LUXURIOUS!! Compare it to a 2009 Lexus GS350 with 70k miles, same price, shit design, shit luxury by comparison, a fucking Toyota basically BUT award winning reliability and low cost of ownership.
Cost of ownership on a 5 year old Lexus GS will be very substantial imo, but depends on how many miles per year you drive
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I hope you're trolling. You sound like a total homo douche.
Takes one to know one, homo!
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With all the f*ck and shits you sound like a 14 year old. Besides, apparently you have to BORROW money to buy a second hand car. A previously owned Honda that you can actually afford will be a smarter choice 8)
x2. I was thinking 12 year old but I can sign on to 14. ::)
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Just print out a jaguar logo and tape it to your steering wheel. It's all in the mind.
Or if you can afford it, just buy one and mount it on your toyota corolla http://www.ebay.com/bhp/jaguar-steering-wheel
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Thing about reliability... If you drive a crap jap basic model, you may pat yourself on the back for getting a car that on paper is more reliable than a BMW, Merc etc
Thing is though, they are more reliabele 'cause there's fuck all in them.
The luxury cars are equipped to the wazoo. You cant compare a 5 speed manual fuel injected car with a twin turbo 8 speed automatic that changes gear in a few hundredths of a second and has the ability to switch from auto to manual gears controlled from pedals on the steering wheel.
When you drive these well equipped cars, you feel the difference.
Warranty is an essential part of owning such a car too. You dont buy that much equipment and keep your fingers crossed.
BMW M Division sell more manuals in the US than anywhere else. I don't know about the regular models, but with the M models, Americans WANT the manual. One reason is that the feeling of shifting a sports car M model, is different and more enthralling than the auto found in the lux models. I don't know the take rate of the manual vs the Dual Clutch Transmission, but America seems to be the last stand for the manual (in all cars) which most people would think that would be Europe.
There is a certain unwritten rule: You don't buy a Mustang GT V8, Camaro, Corvette, 911, Lotus, M3 without a manual. Now, there are vehicles in that list that come with DCTs and autos that shift faster than the manual, but enthusiasts who buy those cars and like "the experience", want a manual.
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BMW M Division sell more manuals in the US than anywhere else. I don't know about the regular models, but with the M models, Americans WANT the manual. One reason is that the feeling of shifting a sports car M model, is different and more enthralling than the auto found in the lux models. I don't know the take rate of the manual vs the Dual Clutch Transmission, but America seems to be the last stand for the manual (in all cars) which most people would think that would be Europe.
There is a certain unwritten rule: You don't buy a Mustang GT V8, Camaro, Corvette, 911, Lotus, M3 without a manual. Now, there are vehicles in that list that come with DCTs and autos that shift faster than the manual, but enthusiasts who buy those cars and like "the experience", want a manual.
Well - they don't live in Bangkok.... Honestly, I sometimes despair when I look at the trip computer and see my average speed is 23 km/h
But on a run - like today, I switch to sport mode (stiffens the suspension) and put it into manual - no clutch of course but with the triptronic gear change it's a lot of fun.
I don't miss the clutch to be honest, I think the fun of a manual is nice for about 20 minutes and then back to 8 speed auto.
I'm English and never owned an auto till I got to Thailand - I don't see the point of manual any more.
Still - fuck having a car that complex and not under warranty....
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Tired of people leasing cars saying look at my new car. It's not your car. It's the dealer's car. Lease is another word for renting a car. I had 46K and I bought two 23K new cars. I will drive them for 10 years or more. With 46 K I could have leased just about any car made. If you keep leasing cars for 10 or more years keep a running total on how much you spend. Is it better to have 3 new leased cars in a 10 year period or have a paid off car for 10 years concerning money spent. I do understand the mentality of wanting a new car every couple of years. It's just a waste of money too me. I judge cars on reliability first because it's my car. If you are leasing any car should be relatively problem free for 3 years.
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Arnold is different. Arnold can drive a beat the shit out of car, and still be Arnold. In the same way that Bill Gates drove to meetings in his Ford Taurus. These guys buy expensive cars because they actually like them when they do buy them. They don't buy them to show off because no matter what they drive they are still of a specific caliber. And people know this.
However, I think a lot of people who are not of their caliber (arnold or bill gates) buys expensive car to try and keep up with the Jones's. Its our way to try and stand out from the crowd, to be better and more richer than the next guy. Arnold and Bill Gates don't need to buy an expensive car to do this because they are who they are and everyone knows them. More menial people try to reach this level by splurging on things, not because they truly enjoy them, because of the way it appears to others. TEMPER wrote in a previous post that people judge in the real world. He stated, "I'm just saying...In the real world people judge you," Clearly he is worried about people judging him by the car he drives.
Good lord I get tired just reading all that. All that 'effort' standing out from the next ugly poor mofo. Haha, little people and their little competitions :D
I wonder what that must feel like consuming yourself with what some random nobody thinks of you :-\
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With all the f*ck and shits you sound like a 14 year old. Besides, apparently you have to BORROW money to buy a second hand car. A previously owned Honda that you can actually afford will be a smarter choice 8)
One of my more 'guilty pleasures' are watching people drown themselves in debt to 'impress' others that wouldn't take the time to spit on them. You really don't have to look far to find these people.
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One of my more 'guilty pleasures' are watching people drown themselves in debt to 'impress' others that wouldn't take the time to spit on them. You really don't have to look far to find these people.
You are describing 90% of the US public... buying things they don't need, with money they don't have. It's a disease.
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One of my more 'guilty pleasures' are watching people drown themselves in debt to 'impress' others that wouldn't take the time to spit on them. You really don't have to look far to find these people.
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