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My bench is not all that great, but I work hard at it anyways. What happens is that my biceps give out and fatigue way before anything else causing failure. Any advices, anyone have a similar issue.
So Marty Falcon won`t yell at me:
Lightning is a discharge of electricity in the atmosphere. Lightning bolts can travel at around 210,000 kph (130,000 mph), while reaching nearly 30,000 °C (54,000 °F) in temperature.
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All posts to this thread should also contain at least one electricity fact. I am trying to raise awareness about electricity as well as per Falcon.
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Your biceps give out?
I'm assuming you meant tri's how wide is your grip?
Hydro energy is the electricity of the future.
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I've never noticed by biceps once when benching....not sure if I understand
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Try pressing it instead of curling it.
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My bench is not all that great, but I work hard at it anyways. What happens is that my biceps give out and fatigue way before anything else causing failure. Any advices, anyone have a similar issue.
So Marty Falcon won`t yell at me:
Lightning is a discharge of electricity in the atmosphere. Lightning bolts can travel at around 210,000 kph (130,000 mph), while reaching nearly 30,000 °C (54,000 °F) in temperature.
Maybe try benching with a fat bar.... Or with Fat Gripz for a while
Then go back to the regular bar.
Fact: electricity is our friend
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biceps play a stabalizing role in flyes, but not sure what to tell ya. When ya bench, you push, biceps pull... Don't don't you have weak everything, lol? So get your "everything" stronger, bench will follow.
water and electricity don't mix? (is that good enough for a fact?)
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I do not have a similar issue, but maybe pause reps will help. ??? ???
To be honest, I do not have a clue how to help you out with your bench press. However, I wanted to say something, so that I would be allowed to post an electricity fact.
A spark of static electricity can measure up to three thousand (3,000) volts.
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Your biceps give out?
I'm assuming you meant tri's how wide is your grip?
Hydro energy is the electricity of the future.
No, its definitely biceps and not triceps. It happens with a normal grip-where you are supposed to have a lot of power. The wider I go, it seems less apparent. Closer grip I can feel it a bit and its also a factor.
Triceps never give out. I also feel a lot of fatigue in the space between the bicep and the elbow and a bit of the forearm. Biceps and forearms are what goes to fatigue first, nothing else.
(http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/historicalelectricityconsumption.png)
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No, its definitely biceps and not triceps. It happens with a normal grip-where you are supposed to have a lot of power. The wider I go, it seems less apparent. Closer grip I can feel it a bit and its also a factor.
Triceps never give out. I also feel a lot of fatigue in the space between the bicep and the elbow and a bit of the forearm. Biceps and forearms are what goes to fatigue first, nothing else.
(http://www.energyliteracy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/historicalelectricityconsumption.png)
This is a fucking odd problem to have...
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No, its definitely biceps and not triceps. It happens with a normal grip-where you are supposed to have a lot of power. The wider I go, it seems less apparent. Closer grip I can feel it a bit and its also a factor.
Triceps never give out. I also feel a lot of fatigue in the space between the bicep and the elbow and a bit of the forearm. Biceps and forearms are what goes to fatigue first, nothing else.
This is a fucking odd problem to have...
Agreed.
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Is it more like say a Biceps tendonitis pain/fatigue?
I'd narrow the grip and watch for wrist over extension while pressing. Cocking the wrist back on presses is pretty common, and will cause fatigue along the forearm and biceps.
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This is a fucking odd problem to have...
It really is and it may have something to do with having abnormally long arms for my height. Like this guy:
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Is it more like say a Biceps tendonitis pain/fatigue?
I'd narrow the grip and watch for wrist over extension while pressing. Cocking the wrist back on presses is pretty common, and will cause fatigue along the forearm and biceps.
The wider I go it seems the less the biceps are fatiguing. My wrists are always straight and fixed and never cocked back. I have never been very good at bench pressing, but I try hard at it. I also notice less bicep fatigue using Dumbells. Perhaps its got something to do with being locked in a movement with the straight bar.
(http://www.facthut.com/thumb/The-waste-produced-by-one-chicken-in-its-lifetime-can-supply-enough-electricity-to-run-a-100-watt-bulb-for-five-hours-fact-591.jpg)
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I recall reading about how the bicep will work as an antagonist and stop the triceps from engaging to hard as some sort of safety mechanism, the Golgi tendon playing some sort of role there. The biceps becoming sore from having to manage that. Maybe you're just to explosive for your own good and your body is stopping you from bench press greatness ;D
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When done with this thread you will be benching 5 plates a side like Mr O!!!
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The wider I go it seems the less the biceps are fatiguing. My wrists are always straight and fixed and never cocked back. I have never been very good at bench pressing, but I try hard at it. I also notice less bicep fatigue using Dumbells. Perhaps its got something to do with being locked in a movement with the straight bar.
(http://www.facthut.com/thumb/The-waste-produced-by-one-chicken-in-its-lifetime-can-supply-enough-electricity-to-run-a-100-watt-bulb-for-five-hours-fact-591.jpg)
stop doing the barbell bench press
you can probably find many variations that won't hurt
regarding the electricity, do I just stick the plug for my light in a pile of chicken shit or do I have to burn it or something else?
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Never had biceps fatigue, but I do get rear delts burning sometimes.
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Nobody uses biceps when benching
Gauss's law describes the relationship between a static electric field and the electric charges that cause it: The static electric field points away from positive charges and towards negative charges. In the field line description, electric field lines begin only at positive electric charges and end only at negative electric charges. 'Counting' the number of field lines passing though a closed surface, therefore, yields the total charge (including bound charge due to polarization of material) enclosed by that surface divided by dielectricity of free space (the vacuum permittivity). More technically, it relates the electric flux through any hypothetical closed "Gaussian surface" to the enclosed electric charge.
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Your biceps actually are used as stabilizer muscles in the bench press as the biceps serve as the antagonist muscle to the triceps during the press. If he were bench pressing rather explosively and with a narrow grip I could see how his biceps could become a bit sore having to regulate that process to a certain extent. Would also explain why they don't hurt when he widens his grip as he can't descend as explosively. Though it could just as easily be from him being generally overall weak as well
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Never heard of this. I do know my triceps always fuck out first on pressing excersizes than anything else.
Google is responsible for using 0.013% of all global electricity consumption
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No one is asking the obvious questions.
1. What's your goal (power, strength, hypertrophy)
2. What rep range are you at when they give out?
3. What are your sets and around what set do they give out?
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No one is asking the obvious questions.
1. What's your goal (power, strength, hypertrophy)
2. What rep range are you at when they give out?
3. What are your sets and around what set do they give out?
1. Goal is all of the above but I would rather have the muscles if I had to choose. I usually do something to cover all three.
2. Never, ever give out on HEAVY low reps. They give out only on higher reps with lighter weight. Around the 9th-12 its brutal. I am really strong at low reps high weight and not great a higher reps at all, despite focusing on higher reps solely for months now.
3. I am currently doing German volume training and supersetting Chest and Back. For instance I will do 10 sets of 10 of each exercise like this:
Bench Press supersetted (or is it supersat?) with Lat Pulldowns (do these because they are way more difficult than pullups as I can easily do 10 sets of 10 in my sleep and they are a more difficult and better movement than the pullups I have done for years and years straight) Rest time is 1:30 seconds. I do a Bench Press than immediately do the Lat Pull down both for 10 reps, then rest, then hit it again until 10 sets.
Of course this contributes greatly to the bicep fatigue factor. However, I notice it to a small degree even when just training barbell bench and just doing chest. Longer rest times seem to negate it a bit as well. I am VERY good at Heavy weight low reps, not so good at high reps as noted above.
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Don't superset chest and back. 2 big muscle groups supersetted like that is very taxing but can be counter productive to strength gains. Also, biceps are activated doing pulldowns so that might be where your issues are coming from.
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loosen your grip a little
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I started having that bicep problem when i started doing underhand grip due to my rotator cuff tendinitis. The grip in this position must be wider than normal bench grip.
I never liked bar bench press, allways preffered dumbells.
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loosen your grip a little
grip of the cock ^^
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I've never noticed by biceps once when benching....not sure if I understand
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FFS, you are supposed to "row" the bar to your chest (back/biceps) whilst "ripping the bar apart" (rear delts). It's a very complicated lift.
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Have you ever tried using a swiss bar- ?
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No one is asking the obvious questions.
1. What's your goal (power, strength, hypertrophy)
2. What rep range are you at when they give out?
3. What are your sets and around what set do they give out?
What degree hits upper chest more?
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FFS, you are supposed to "row" the bar to your chest (back/biceps) whilst "ripping the bar apart" (rear delts). It's a very complicated lift.
Watch your tone with Big anal flex.
....electric potential energy is measured in volts.
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Improve mobility of t spine
Improve internal rotation
ImProve external rotation
Soft tissue work on triceps and pec minor
You're welcome
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Watch your tone with Big anal flex.
....electric potential energy is measured in volts.
BCF is well-aware of the importance of "rowing the bar". I am surprised that this escaped his notice.
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http://ditillo2.blogspot.nl/2014/04/the-bench-press-part-two-bill-kazmaier.html
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grip of the cock ^^
Thinking of cock now eh? My eye is on you, boy.
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Weider Principle #21, Pre exhaust the muscle. Do some flyes first.
Electricity fact- I once shocked my cock when I touched it and got an instant erection
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My bench is not all that great, but I work hard at it anyways. What happens is that my biceps give out and fatigue way before anything else causing failure. Any advices, anyone have a similar issue.
I had a similar issue ,
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Solution : put a bench under you and instead of pulling the weight down ,push the weight up, I hope this helps
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Electricity fact- I once shocked my cock when I touched it and got an instant erection
Would love to have been those electrons flowing across that potential.
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Thinking of cock now eh? My eye is on you, boy.
Asian sensation is baaacckkk....
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BCF is well-aware of the importance of "rowing the bar". I am surprised that this escaped his notice.
It's true I have been going easy on the bar lately instead of trying to rip it in half....thanks for the reminder bro.
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It's true I have been going easy on the bar lately instead of trying to rip it in half....thanks for the reminder bro.
I only focus on trying to tear the bar in half, I have never succeeded but my bench bar is half an inch longer now.
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Thanks guys, I just tore my bar right in half and weights went flying everywhere.
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LOL.
Since you are -- what? -- near 6', and admittedly have monkey arms? :) -- I'd have to guess you are mostly ectomorphic. I've seen your permabulker pics. You were decently strong by any of my estimations, especially if you were inclining 315 for full-range reps and/or pulling 600 from the floor. (Aside: I have a long memory, and those lifts would not have made you the strongest person at UNC Charlotte :) ;) :D smiley-et cetera.)
But even when you were in that mode, I didn't see insane endomorphic tendencies. Yeah, you were "fat" and all that shit, but serious lifters could still tell you were among their ranks. It's not as if you were some blob kid in a high school weight room who did a quarter squat with 675.
I digress.
You yourself say you're much better at lower reps on bench press.
Why, then, are you trying to be something you're not?
It is not as if you are some semi-strong HIT guy who, after years of single sets to failure for an exercise or two/bodypart, suddenly decided to "try" volume.
If that was the case, I'd instantly understand your problem; after all, it used to be mine. In spite of all the shit we hear about HIT-oriented methods here, the ones I used got me very, very strong and in impeccable form. None of that 4 seconds up, 4 seconds down bullshit, but I did do some nice benching triples with each rep paused on my chest, and I was also proud of my Pendlay rows. Hell, I was even proud of a few of my Hammer Strength moves :)
I would've thought you were made for moderate strength over a "distance," but when it comes to pressing, you obviously are NOT, Adam.
So, why not embrace something better suited to your physiology? Nobody says you have to go my route and follow a low-volume routine; there are, as the saying goes, many ways to an end. Why not try something more along the lines of 5x5 or 3x3? If you're concerned about pec development, do as someone else suggested and pre-exhaust with an isolation movement first. I played with that in my early days, particularly with Nautilus equipment. The results were generally good, especially for the back machines. Their Double-Chest machine was always too wonky for me; I could "press" the stack on the thing forever, but the fly/cross portion was so awkward I practically had to stand up to finish a single rep with just a plate or two on the stack :|
The old lady is bugging me and I digress again. Do what you do best, plus a bit more TUT/set. And don't fucking overtrain so much.
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My bench is not all that great, but I work hard at it anyways. What happens is that my biceps give out and fatigue way before anything else causing failure. Any advices, anyone have a similar issue.
So Marty Falcon won`t yell at me:
Lightning is a discharge of electricity in the atmosphere. Lightning bolts can travel at around 210,000 kph (130,000 mph), while reaching nearly 30,000 °C (54,000 °F) in temperature.
:o 8) nice2 see you is curius my neegul
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Liquidc. Is the man to ask bench question to he has a world record in the raw 275lb class
Electricity follows the past of least resistance
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Let's all treat the appropriate parties with respect and decency or I'll have to start busting heads, thanks.
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It's a tendon issue. Many people who think they have shoulder problems really have bicep tie-in tendon problems...I'd eliminate the exercise all together and/or just keep it light ...
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Liquidc. Is the man to ask bench question to he has a world record in the raw 275lb class
Electricity follows the past of least resistance
in a shorted circuit is any electricity discharged?
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in a shorted circuit is any electricity discharged?
Falcon have you ever read about Lucid dreaming and Astral projection? I've heard that Tesla could do both and do it anytime and any place...I got into Lucid dreaming last year but felt that I may have done this sort of shit when I was younger without knowing what it was...Still haven't mastered it. But makes sleeping so much better...
For those that don't know, Lucid dreaming is having the ability to control your dreams as they happen because you know your dreaming. It's a trip.
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Falcon have you ever read about Lucid dreaming and Astral projection? I've heard that Tesla could do both and do it anytime and any place...I got into Lucid dreaming last year but felt that I may have done this sort of shit when I was younger without knowing what it was...Still haven't mastered it. But makes sleeping so much better...
For those that don't know, Lucid dreaming is having the ability to control your dreams as they happen because you know your dreaming. It's a trip.
its deep creative thinking when are distracted from our work, dreaming happens during the day.. you can sit n invent a dream didnt know bout tesla speaking of it
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bunch of morons posting in this thread
i also had a similar problem. what's the solution? in your case, i don't know. in mine, i think it stemmed from a strange postural problem. very hard to figure out, and i wrecked my shoulders in the process. even though i've "fixed" it now, i still can't bench heavy anymore.
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bunch of morons posting in this thread
i also had a similar problem. what's the solution? in your case, i don't know. in mine, i think it stemmed from a strange postural problem. very hard to figure out, and i wrecked my shoulders in the process. even though i've "fixed" it now, i still can't bench heavy anymore.
kinda interested in posturology now and if you don't mind, would like to know more about the issues you had, how it was fixed. This is interesting stuff. Being on cell phones, texting so much is just wrecking us, necks always tilted forward...
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kinda interested in posturology now and if you don't mind, would like to know more about the issues you had, how it was fixed. This is interesting stuff. Being on cell phones, texting so much is just wrecking us, necks always tilted forward...
i can't explain it very well, but when i was younger i was obsessed with my abs. i was always flexing and i think this "ingrained" a bad posture and lots of problems. just recently i've changed my "default" posture. to me, it feels like i'm sticking my stomach out, but when i look in the mirror, i actually look much more normal. ever since this readjustment -- again this is just a simplification, it's hard to explain -- everything, and i mean EVERYTHING has felt completely different... squats, bench, pullups, the whole lot.
for years squats never felt natural, i'd always feel strange limitations when pushing heavy weight (e.g. weakness in my midsection when pressing or doing pullups, high blood pressure when bench pressing, inexplicable extreme weakness during certain movements, etc.). it's all changed now... no problems in the past two months, roughly.
people can scoff all they want, but those who have never had serious problems rarely have the first clue how deep these problems run, and how hard they can be to solve.