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Bench Press Problem
« on: January 20, 2015, 09:28:20 PM »
My bench is not all that great, but I work hard at it anyways.  What happens is that my biceps give out and fatigue way before anything else causing failure.  Any advices, anyone have a similar issue.


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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 09:29:23 PM »
All posts to this thread should also contain at least one electricity fact.  I am trying to raise awareness about electricity as well as per Falcon.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2015, 09:43:29 PM »
Your biceps give out?

I'm assuming you meant tri's how wide is your grip?

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2015, 09:44:29 PM »
I've never noticed by biceps once when benching....not sure if I understand

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2015, 09:45:44 PM »
Try pressing it instead of curling it.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2015, 09:48:33 PM »
My bench is not all that great, but I work hard at it anyways.  What happens is that my biceps give out and fatigue way before anything else causing failure.  Any advices, anyone have a similar issue.


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Maybe try benching with a fat bar.... Or with Fat Gripz for a while

Then go back to the regular bar.


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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2015, 09:49:28 PM »
biceps play a stabalizing role in flyes, but not sure what to tell ya. When ya bench, you push, biceps pull... Don't don't you have weak everything, lol? So get your "everything" stronger, bench will follow.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2015, 09:51:56 PM »
I do not have a similar issue, but maybe pause reps will help.  ??? ???

To be honest, I do not have a clue how to help you out with your bench press. However, I wanted to say something, so that I would be allowed to post an electricity fact.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 09:53:39 PM »
Your biceps give out?

I'm assuming you meant tri's how wide is your grip?

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No, its definitely biceps and not triceps.  It happens with a normal grip-where you are supposed to have a lot of power.  The wider I go, it seems less apparent.  Closer grip I can feel it a bit and its also a factor.

Triceps never give out.  I also feel a lot of fatigue in the space between the bicep and the elbow and a bit of the forearm.  Biceps and forearms are what goes to fatigue first, nothing else.


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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 09:54:58 PM »
No, its definitely biceps and not triceps.  It happens with a normal grip-where you are supposed to have a lot of power.  The wider I go, it seems less apparent.  Closer grip I can feel it a bit and its also a factor.

Triceps never give out.  I also feel a lot of fatigue in the space between the bicep and the elbow and a bit of the forearm.  Biceps and forearms are what goes to fatigue first, nothing else.



This is a fucking odd problem to have...

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2015, 09:57:37 PM »
No, its definitely biceps and not triceps.  It happens with a normal grip-where you are supposed to have a lot of power.  The wider I go, it seems less apparent.  Closer grip I can feel it a bit and its also a factor.

Triceps never give out.  I also feel a lot of fatigue in the space between the bicep and the elbow and a bit of the forearm.  Biceps and forearms are what goes to fatigue first, nothing else.

This is a fucking odd problem to have...
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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 09:57:40 PM »
Is it more like say a Biceps tendonitis pain/fatigue?

I'd narrow the grip and watch for wrist over extension while pressing. Cocking the wrist back on presses is pretty common, and will cause fatigue along the forearm and biceps.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2015, 10:01:59 PM »
This is a fucking odd problem to have...
It really is and it may have something to do with having abnormally long arms for my height.  Like this guy:



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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 10:05:43 PM »
Is it more like say a Biceps tendonitis pain/fatigue?

I'd narrow the grip and watch for wrist over extension while pressing. Cocking the wrist back on presses is pretty common, and will cause fatigue along the forearm and biceps.
The wider I go it seems the less the biceps are fatiguing.  My wrists are always straight and fixed and never cocked back.  I have never been very good at bench pressing, but I try hard at it.  I also notice less bicep fatigue using Dumbells.  Perhaps its got something to do with being locked in a movement with the straight bar.


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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2015, 10:17:45 PM »
I recall reading about how the bicep will work as an antagonist and stop the triceps from engaging to hard as some sort of safety mechanism, the Golgi tendon playing some sort of role there.  The biceps becoming sore from having to manage that. Maybe you're just to explosive for your own good and your body is stopping you from bench press greatness  ;D

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2015, 10:21:27 PM »
When done with this thread you will be benching 5 plates a side like Mr O!!!
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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 10:27:02 PM »
The wider I go it seems the less the biceps are fatiguing.  My wrists are always straight and fixed and never cocked back.  I have never been very good at bench pressing, but I try hard at it.  I also notice less bicep fatigue using Dumbells.  Perhaps its got something to do with being locked in a movement with the straight bar.



stop doing the barbell bench press 
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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2015, 10:31:29 PM »
Never had biceps fatigue, but I do get rear delts burning sometimes.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 10:31:45 PM »
Nobody uses biceps when benching

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2015, 10:35:40 PM »
Your biceps actually are used as stabilizer muscles in the bench press as the biceps serve as the antagonist muscle to the triceps during the press. If he were bench pressing rather explosively and with a narrow grip I could see how his biceps could become a bit sore having to regulate that process to a certain extent. Would also explain why they don't hurt when he widens his grip as he can't descend as explosively. Though it could just as easily be from him being generally overall weak as well

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2015, 10:53:31 PM »
Never heard of this. I do know my triceps always fuck out first on pressing excersizes than anything else.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2015, 11:08:23 PM »
No one is asking the obvious questions.

1. What's your goal (power, strength, hypertrophy)


2. What rep range are you at when they give out?


3. What are your sets and around what set do they give out?

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2015, 11:20:58 PM »
No one is asking the obvious questions.

1. What's your goal (power, strength, hypertrophy)


2. What rep range are you at when they give out?


3. What are your sets and around what set do they give out?
1. Goal is all of the above but I would rather have the muscles if I had to choose.  I usually do something to cover all three.

2. Never, ever give out on HEAVY low reps.  They give out only on higher reps with lighter weight.  Around the 9th-12 its brutal.  I am really strong at low reps high weight and not great a higher reps at all, despite focusing on higher reps solely for months now.

3. I am currently doing German volume training and supersetting Chest and Back.  For instance I will do 10 sets of 10 of each exercise like this:

Bench Press supersetted (or is it supersat?) with Lat Pulldowns (do these because they are way more difficult than pullups as I can easily do 10 sets of 10 in my sleep and they are a more difficult and better movement than the pullups I have done for years and years straight)  Rest time is 1:30 seconds.  I do a Bench Press than immediately do the Lat Pull down both for 10 reps, then rest, then hit it again until 10 sets.

Of course this contributes greatly to the bicep fatigue factor.  However, I notice it to a small degree even when just training barbell bench and just doing chest.  Longer rest times seem to negate it a bit as well.  I am VERY good at Heavy weight low reps, not so good at high reps as noted above.



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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2015, 02:43:03 AM »
Don't superset chest and back. 2 big muscle groups supersetted like that is very taxing but can be counter productive to strength gains. Also, biceps are activated doing pulldowns so that might be where your issues are coming from.

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Re: Bench Press Problem
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2015, 03:12:24 AM »
loosen your grip a little 
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