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Here we fucking go... ::)
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I wanna see Cruz vs. Warren in the general election.
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Like Obama she has not ONE redeeming quality. Her claim to fame is 1. She's Bill's wife 2. She's a women
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Like Obama she has not ONE redeeming quality. Her claim to fame is 1. She's Bill's wife 2. She's a women
are you saying her resume is weak? Does she lack experience?
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are you saying her resume is weak?
coach is just a smorgasbord of right wing talking points ;D
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coach is just a smorgasbord of right wing talking points ;D
Coach can disagree with Clinton's policies and politics and generally believe she's a terrible person.
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If he's going to say she's inexperienced and lacks a resume... I'd love to hear him justify why 2 years of Senate makes Rand, Rubio and Cruz experienced enough to be President. Obama actually had MORE national Senate level experience when he announced his run, than Rand, Rubio, or Cruz. Think about that.
So really, before we get into "she has no resume" and "she's inexperienced", let's look at that. We can argue her experience was terrible, totally good argument.
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she'll win.
she'll win bc she focuses on gender inequality which is the hot topic thanks to the media and gobbled up by the "victimized" morons
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Coach can disagree with Clinton's policies and politics and generally believe she's a terrible person.
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If he's going to say she's inexperienced and lacks a resume... I'd love to hear him justify why 2 years of Senate makes Rand, Rubio and Cruz experienced enough to be President. Obama actually had MORE national Senate level experience when he announced his run, than Rand, Rubio, or Cruz. Think about that.
So really, before we get into "she has no resume" and "she's inexperienced", let's look at that. We can argue her experience was terrible, totally good argument.
I drop a bombshell for you, does she have experience being a lying politician just like the rest of them do? absolutely they are all hacks.. experience these days at a state level means are you good at making a decision so if something goes wrong it cant be traced back to you.
There isnt one person I like running for office but i like her least of all
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I drop a bombshell for you, does she have experience being a lying politician just like the rest of them do? absolutely they are all hacks.. experience these days at a state level means are you good at making a decision so if something goes wrong it cant be traced back to you.
There isnt one person I like running for office but i like her least of all
You're trying to move this into a "change the system" thing, which is cool, but it goes way beyond the scope of our discussion. I agree with you, hilary is my LEAST favorite in EITHER party, either side, any candidate, I like her LEAST.
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We are about to hear cries of "she has no experience" and "Her only claim is being female" when in reality, her resume completely demolishes Rand, Rubio and Cruz... COMBINED lol. Sorry, but it does. I'd vote for any of them any day over her - but there's no denying she has been sitting in governors meetings since the 80s and at some level of White House for 23 years. Long time. I believe Rubio was literally in high school when Clinton was in White House, involving herself in everything except a blue dress.
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are you saying her resume is weak? Does she lack experience?
She's has experience. But nothing got accomplished except for her being the accessory to the murder of four dead Americans. List an accomplishment that benefitted this country? She would leave off where oshithead ended. In disaster.
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Read my post before the last one and refute it. Are you sure you're not a straw man gimmick?
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She's has experience. But nothing got accomplished except for her being the accessory to the murder of four dead Americans. List an accomplishment that benefitted this country? She would leave off where oshithead ended. In disaster.
we are in agreement then :)
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Benghazi
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Benghazi
actually, despite my conspiracy theory beliefs, Hilary/Obama were cleared of any wrongdoing in Benghazi by a REPUBLICAN led investigation.
So we can't blame her anymore - unless we're willing to say the Repubs in congress are incompetent, corrupt, or full of shit.
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we are in agreement then :)
About what? That she was in a position that nothing was accomplished? You didn't answer my question. What are her accomplishments? Like Obama, what qualifies her to be president?
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actually, despite my conspiracy theory beliefs, Hilary/Obama were cleared of any wrongdoing in Benghazi by a REPUBLICAN led investigation.
So we can't blame her anymore - unless we're willing to say the Repubs in congress are incompetent, corrupt, or full of shit.
Haha, you REALLY think that case is closed. Lmfao.
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Like Obama she has not ONE redeeming quality. Her claim to fame is 1. She's Bill's wife 2. She's a women
Wellesley College, Bachelor of Arts 1969. Hillary majored in politics and was a politically active Republican
Yale Law School, Juris Doctor degree 1973. She met Bill Clinton also a Yale law student in 1971. She worked on George McGovern's campaign for President.
Arkansas First Lady for 12 years.
U.S. First Lady during which she was active in health care and other policy initiatives
United States Senator, elected to two terms
Presidential campaign of 2008. On Super Tuesday, Clinton won the largest states, such as California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts, while Obama won more states;they almost evenly split the total popular vote.
Secretary of State 2009 - 2013. During this time her public approval rating had reached 65 percent
April 11, 2015, Hillary officially announces opens her campaign for President.
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coach is just a smorgasbord of right wing talking points ;D
But you lefties can't argue without name calling. The left can't win on policies. They win by demonizng, lying to their constituents and offering "free" shit.
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But you lefties can't argue without name calling. The left can't win on policies. They win by demonizng, lying to their constituents and offering "free" shit.
Wow! This is laughable. Any idiot reading these Getbig political threads can see exactly where the bulk of the name calling comes from. In the political arena, both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of name calling and lying to constituents. Unfortunately, this is part and parcel in politics today.
As the Presidential campaigns get going and things start to heat up, as surely they will, expect a lot of name calling and promises, some of which will be broken by whoever wins the election.
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Fuck it, why not just have a King? Let them rule until they die and then their first born child can take over. Apparently we have royal families in the United States. How about Michelle Obama or Chelsea? Doesn't Jeb Bush have a son who is some kind of Hispanic, he'd be perfect.
March to the polls and cast your (lol) "vote" you stupid pigs. You fucking slaves.
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But you lefties can't argue without name calling.
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Jesus Christ, you dumb fucks are just itching to destroy this country.
Delusional as usual. The only ones getting their asses handed to them are the delusional fucks like your self who blatantly contribute to the destruction of society because of your retarded, ass backwards thinking who can't even answer with any honesty (because most liberals. Especially like yourself) why you voted for a fuckwit like Obama, who, like yourself had the integrity of a two bit cheat. You vote for Obama twice and I'm the dumb one. Lmfao.
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“A politician divides mankind into two classes: tools and enemies.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche
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she'll win bc she focuses on gender inequality which is the hot topic thanks to the media and gobbled up by the "victimized" morons
It's fabulously stupid if it's really used as one of main ideas for the election campaign, because gender inequality is the medical fact. Research on the brain are clear that on the average (again, on the average) a female brain is smaller, lighter and the frontal lobe of the brain (crucial for creation) is used mainly for nurturing purposes. So yes, men and women are unequal (read as different), and it's biological fact, not some sociological speculation.
Using feminist arguments is like ignoring a century of research.
Well, it must be a perfect fit for a country of mentally challenged. First a negroe, now a woman, next you'll vote for transgender reptilian from Alpha Centauri, because it's cool.
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Only one reason is needed to vote for the Democratic nominee, who ever it may be, (my choice would be Warren, or Castro (Julian or Juaquin), or even Jerry Brown, but I'll settle for Hilary):
The next president will likely get to select four Supreme Court justices. Citizens United? Roe v Wade? Libertarians should be very afraid of the far right and the demands they'll make on a Republican president.
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About what? That she was in a position that nothing was accomplished? You didn't answer my question. What are her accomplishments? Like Obama, what qualifies her to be president?
I didn't say she had accomplishments. I said she had experience. Two very different things.
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are you saying her resume is weak? Does she lack experience?
Yes.
I mentioned it in another thread but she was totally unqualified for all of her previous positions. Not a good politician and doesn't seem over bright.
What has she done exactly that would lead you to believe that she has a strong resume and is full of experience?
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This is what happens when you mess with the Clinton's!!
And in case you have forgotten all the other bodies this witch has left in her wake......Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruleda suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 – Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list!
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What a Zelig she is. And even with the faux Southern drawl she's a shrill thing.
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I didn't say she had accomplishments. I said she had experience. Two very different things.
Then what's her experience? Bills wife? A murderer? Help me out.
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This is what happens when you mess with the Clinton's!!
And in case you have forgotten all the other bodies this witch has left in her wake......Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruleda suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 – Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list!
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Then what's her experience? Bills wife? A murderer? Help me out.
This is the part where your emotion blinds facts.
She did a ton for domestic causes for 8 years as first lady.
She was elected twice to US Senate, served over 8 years, then left 2nd term to knock out 4 years sec of state.
Compare that to Rand, Rubio and Cruz - they've been in senate since - hold on - 2011 for Rand and Rubio, and 2013 for Cruz? And they haven't accomplished all that much, have they? I agree with their ideology, but really, they haven't led major legislation, they have led major committees, they haven't DEALT with world leaders, have they?
Here's the bottom line - we agree with their political ideologies and hate that of hilary, but we cannot deny her experience completely destroys theirs. She's been meeting global leaders for 25 years. Cruz (who I support #1 in 2016) has been in office for 2 years, and has been running for office half of that time!!!!!!!!!!
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Coach, years ago, I was anti-clinton back in the Brady bill days, 93 and 94... I am disgusted by the clintons and the way you feel about libs today - THAT is how I felt about people that voted Clinton in 92. Still, it's their choice, they had their reasons.
I really hope she doesn't get the nomination. BUT while we debate, I won't say things like "Hilary has never met world leaders" or "Hilary has never overseen overthrows" or "Rubio has way more experience in the war room than Hilary" because that will make me look like I'm totally full of shit.
I dislike Hilary's political agenda greatly, but I can admit 2 terms as senator, 2 terms first lady, and 1 term as sec of state is probably going to be the strongest experience in this race, even stronger than Jeb. She will never get my vote, but I will be honest about her experience.
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Coach, years ago, I was anti-clinton back in the Brady bill days, 93 and 94... I am disgusted by the clintons and the way you feel about libs today - THAT is how I felt about people that voted Clinton in 92. Still, it's their choice, they had their reasons.
I really hope she doesn't get the nomination. BUT while we debate, I won't say things like "Hilary has never met world leaders" or "Hilary has never overseen overthrows" or "Rubio has way more experience in the war room than Hilary" because that will make me look like I'm totally full of shit.
I dislike Hilary's political agenda greatly, but I can admit 2 terms as senator, 2 terms first lady, and 1 term as sec of state is probably going to be the strongest experience in this race, even stronger than Jeb. She will never get my vote, but I will be honest about her experience.
What you just summarized is why she would have been worlds better than Obama. That said she won't get my vote either.
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What you just summarized is why she would have been worlds better than Obama. That said she won't get my vote either.
oh yeah, she would have done a better job. He was learning on the job.
I have never liked lots of things, But I admit their experience. I dont like Cheney, but looking at his resume over 40 years, it's hard to top that. Biden has one of the greatest lists of experience in DC. I would never vote either for prez, but I admit they know how DC works and have been working their tails off for decades. Same with Hilary.
on the other hand - the Palins of the world, the Rubios... they go from mayor to 18 months in senate, and they're running for prez the whole time. I dislike when people scream about experience and won't be honest. It's okay to say "So-and-so is morally corrupted and has a shitty political ideology, but they have been negotiating with world leaders for 20 or 30 years.
Rubio and Rand will need those training wheels too. We have to say "I'm okay with them botching a few things due to lack of experience, because I love their political beliefs".
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This is the part where your emotion blinds facts.
She did a ton for domestic causes for 8 years as first lady.
She was elected twice to US Senate, served over 8 years, then left 2nd term to knock out 4 years sec of state.
Compare that to Rand, Rubio and Cruz - they've been in senate since - hold on - 2011 for Rand and Rubio, and 2013 for Cruz? And they haven't accomplished all that much, have they? I agree with their ideology, but really, they haven't led major legislation, they have led major committees, they haven't DEALT with world leaders, have they?
Here's the bottom line - we agree with their political ideologies and hate that of hilary, but we cannot deny her experience completely destroys theirs. She's been meeting global leaders for 25 years. Cruz (who I support #1 in 2016) has been in office for 2 years, and has been running for office half of that time!!!!!!!!!!
Goddammit Rob, I don't care if she's been elected 50 times. That's not an accomplishment in her job. You make the same reference with Obama. Again, I don't care how many times he's been elected. He still can't do the job the American people expect. Do you see the difference at all?????
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Goddammit Rob, I don't care if she's been elected 50 times. That's not an accomplishment in her job. You make the same reference with Obama. Again, I don't care how many times he's been elected. He still can't do the job the American people expect. Do you see the difference at all?????
If you were a liberal, you'd look at Hilary's list of accomplishments and say wow... she wrote an early version of obamacare, she wrote a bunch of family/womens protection bills, she made the 911 WTC rebuild happen, she's visited soldiers over and over... she's been to 112 countries as Sec of state, met countless leaders, she gave repubs the mid-east surge they demanded, she saved the turkey/armenian thing, and don't forget about the Global Hunger and Food Security program.
I dislike her, but I can't look at that list and call her clueless or inexperienced. I call her a liberal and say I disagree with her politics and policies. But when you say she hasn't accomplished anything - what you really mean is that she hasn't accomplished anything that YOU wanted. For Beaten wives, 911 survivors, hungry people worldwide, warmongers, etc - she's done a lot.
It is like all things politics. if youre a liberal, obama accomplished a shitload. If you're a conservative, obama didn't accomplish shit.
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If you were a liberal, you'd look at Hilary's list of accomplishments and say wow... she wrote an early version of obamacare, she wrote a bunch of family/womens protection bills, she made the 911 WTC rebuild happen, she's visited soldiers over and over... she's been to 112 countries as Sec of state, met countless leaders, she gave repubs the mid-east surge they demanded, she saved the turkey/armenian thing, and don't forget about the Global Hunger and Food Security program.
I dislike her, but I can't look at that list and call her clueless or inexperienced. I call her a liberal and say I disagree with her politics and policies. But when you say she hasn't accomplished anything - what you really mean is that she hasn't accomplished anything that YOU wanted. For Beaten wives, 911 survivors, hungry people worldwide, warmongers, etc - she's done a lot.
It is like all things politics. if youre a liberal, obama accomplished a shitload. If you're a conservative, obama didn't accomplish shit.
The question has been asked to liberals. They can't answer either.
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The question has been asked to liberals. They can't answer either.
I just answered it. lol.
For Beaten wives, 911 survivors, hungry people worldwide, warmongers, etc - she's done a lot. And I just showed which actions and legislation did exactly that.
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I wanna see Cruz vs. Warren in the general election.
Branch still has a few good years left on his bb career but maybe in 2020.
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I wanna see Cruz vs. Warren in the general election.
why?
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She gets my vote, and my money.
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why?
I want america to choose actual change.
Maybe we are a liberal nation that wants to do the warren thing.
Maybe we are a conservative nation that wants to do the cruz thing.
Either way, we aren't a RINO nation and this current thing, Bush = obama = mccain = jeb = Hilary.
I'd like to see someone really shift things, and I'd like Americans to have such a contrast from which to choose. I'd take Cruz, of course.
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I want america to choose actual change.
Maybe we are a liberal nation that wants to do the warren thing.
Maybe we are a conservative nation that wants to do the cruz thing.
Either way, we aren't a RINO nation and this current thing, Bush = obama = mccain = jeb = Hilary.
I'd like to see someone really shift things, and I'd like Americans to have such a contrast from which to choose. I'd take Cruz, of course.
I think most all Americans feel this way. Remember, Obama was supposed to be that person, a transformative figure. I knew that was BS.
What most Americans don't know (and I do, because I'm involved in it) is that most all of our federal government is not run by the elected officials. It is really run by the lobbyists. And neither party, or a President, is going to take them on. There is way too much money at stake. Sorry, Cruz is not your guy to do that. His wife worked at Goldman Sachs.
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Sorry, Cruz is not your guy to do that. His wife worked at Goldman Sachs.
maybe, but you never know. If HE worked there, I'd agreee. but wifey? Spouses can be very different.
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maybe, but you never know. If HE worked there, I'd agreee. but wifey? Spouses can be very different.
Cruz has to get past Jeb first. Jeb's the guy the money Republicans want, just as Romney was the guy they wanted. It's going to be an interesting primary. The money Republicans are a mighty powerful force. I can't see anybody but Jeb ending up with the nomination, unless it's Walker as a compromise.
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About what? That she was in a position that nothing was accomplished? You didn't answer my question. What are her accomplishments? Like Obama, what qualifies her to be president?
The question we all could ask ourselves regardless of our party affiliation or what our political philosophy is, what qualifies anyone to be President? If you believe Presidents past and present were or are elected on their accomplishments, you're likely mistaken. Presidential candidates are selected by their supporters based on how electable they are.
If you want qualifications and accomplishments, Hillary has a record of bringing Republicans and Democrats together when she was in the Senate. Considering how bogged down with filibustering and other diversionary tactics both parties are these days, someone who even has the slightest chance of breaking the stalemate should be looked at as a possible choice for President.
Furthermore, for all you "birthers" there appears to be no question as to whether Hillary is a natural born citizen of the U.S. What I question is her age. -Might seem odd coming from an old guy like me, but being President is an arduous task. It takes a lot of stamina. Do we know whether Hillary is up to the task health-wise?
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The question we all could ask ourselves regardless of our party affiliation or political philosophy is, what qualifies anyone to be President? If you believe Presidents past and present were or are elected on their accomplishments, you're likely mistaken. Presidential candidates are selected by their supporters based on how electable they are.
If you want qualifications and accomplishments, Hillary has a record of bringing Republicans and Democrats together when she was in the Senate. Considering how bogged down with filibustering and other diversionary tactics both parties are these days, someone who even has the slightest chance of breaking the stalemate should be looked at as a possible choice for President.
Furthermore, for all you "birthers" there appears to be no question as to whether Hillary is a natural born citizen of the U.S. What I question is her age. -Might seem odd coming from an old guy like me, but being President is an arduous task. It takes a lot of stamina. Do we know whether Hillary is up to the task health-wise?
The Republicans will make a big issue of this. Along with Benghazi, the e-mails, and "Obama's third term."
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Do we know whether Hillary is up to the task health-wise?
agreed - americans should see FULL medical history and scans. No way we should just 'take her word for it'.
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there's a huge precedent for us just taking the president's word for it. Mccain was a 4x cancer survivor and all we got was a quick skim of records for selected media. Palin had promiscious Glen-rice behavior and erratic rants - STDs and medication were definitely something to consider - we got one paragraph from her doc saying everything is awesome.
JFK was addled with back issues and living on pain meds - dangerous, and his results were erratic. Tsongas would have died in office - he lied about his cancer being healed, knowingly. There is no real accountability for health - but they should be. Many suspect hilary's medical probs are way worse - but we will never know.
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agreed - americans should see FULL medical history and scans. No way we should just 'take her word for it'.
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there's a huge precedent for us just taking the president's word for it. Mccain was a 4x cancer survivor and all we got was a quick skim of records for selected media. Palin had promiscious Glen-rice behavior and erratic rants - STDs and medication were definitely something to consider - we got one paragraph from her doc saying everything is awesome.
JFK was addled with back issues and living on pain meds - dangerous, and his results were erratic. Tsongas would have died in office - he lied about his cancer being healed, knowingly. There is no real accountability for health - but they should be. Many suspect hilary's medical probs are way worse - but we will never know.
Well let's hope they are so bad she physical can't compain. Fine with me I really dislike her. (Don't want to use the word hate as its really awful) but damn close to it.
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The Republicans will make a big issue of this. Along with Benghazi, the e-mails, and "Obama's third term."
That is the name of the game, isn't it? Find your opponents' weaknesses and focus on exposing them. It's all a diversionary campaign tactic that dwells on the other candidates negative aspects rather than your own positives. It works really well too, because a lot of people who have accomplished little like to bring others down, especially the opponent who may be more qualified.
Hillary's response to the email fiasco is concerning. She's a bright woman. The excuse that she didn't want to or couldn't manage separate email accounts for personal use and business just doesn't wash with me. If I buy that she is that lacking in internet skills, then I'm a genius when it comes to email. I am involved in several different ventures, I've set up separate email accounts for all of them. To have stated that and then turn around a delete a bunch of emails so that are no longer available for scrutiny is at the least a conundrum.
Personally, at this point I have no idea who I will vote for for President. I'll be making this decision as carefully as possible over the course of the next year. I am a Democrat and in Oregon that means I will have to vote along party lines in the primary. After that, I get to vote for who I think (with my limited knowledge) can do the best job for us. We'd like to believe this is a science, but it usually boils down to our gut feelings.
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That is the name of the game, isn't it? Find your opponents' weaknesses and focus on exposing them. It's all a diversionary campaign tactic that dwells on the other candidates negative aspects rather than your own positives. It works really well too, because a lot of people who have accomplished little like to bring others down, especially the opponent who may be more qualified.
Hillary's response to the email fiasco is concerning. She's a bright woman. The excuse that she didn't want to or couldn't manage separate email accounts for personal use and business just doesn't wash with me. If I buy that she is that lacking in internet skills, then I'm a genius when it comes to email. I am involved in several different ventures, I've set up separate email accounts for all of them. To have stated that and then turn around a delete a bunch of emails so that are no longer available for scrutiny is at the least a conundrum.
Personally, at this point I have no idea who I will vote for for President. I'll be making this decision as carefully as possible over the course of the next year. I am a Democrat and in Oregon that means I will have to vote along party lines in the primary. After that, I get to vote for who I think (with my limited knowledge) can do the best job for us. We'd like to believe this is a science, but it usually boils down to our gut feelings.
As some one who spend 9 years in the DOD managing 3 email account, regular, secret abd top secret I can tell you that her entire story is just not even believable. It's impossible. It simple dosnt work like that period. There are so many holes in her store it's not even funny.
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I want america to choose actual change.
Maybe we are a liberal nation that wants to do the warren thing.
Maybe we are a conservative nation that wants to do the cruz thing.
Either way, we aren't a RINO nation and this current thing, Bush = obama = mccain = jeb = Hilary.
I'd like to see someone really shift things, and I'd like Americans to have such a contrast from which to choose. I'd take Cruz, of course.
cruz is such a whore for israel youd think hes jewish, dont expect any change from that character
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agreed - americans should see FULL medical history and scans. No way we should just 'take her word for it'.
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there's a huge precedent for us just taking the president's word for it. Mccain was a 4x cancer survivor and all we got was a quick skim of records for selected media. Palin had promiscious Glen-rice behavior and erratic rants - STDs and medication were definitely something to consider - we got one paragraph from her doc saying everything is awesome.
JFK was addled with back issues and living on pain meds - dangerous, and his results were erratic. Tsongas would have died in office - he lied about his cancer being healed, knowingly. There is no real accountability for health - but they should be. Many suspect hilary's medical probs are way worse - but we will never know.
JFK was a getbigger and took steroids.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=125593
President John F. Kennedy's medical records reveal that he had suffered health problems since childhood, and used an arsenal of drugs, including painkillers and stimulants, to treat various medical conditions during his presidency.
A historian who examined his medical records was stunned at the extent of the health problems that the seemingly vigorous president dealt with.
"There was hardly a day that went by that he didn't suffer terribly," presidential historian Robert Dallek, a history professor at Boston University, told ABCNEWS' Good Morning America.
The revelations about JFK's health are included in Dallek's forthcoming book, An Unfinished Life: John F. Kennedy, 1917-1963, which is excerpted in the December issue of Atlantic Monthly. Dallek was granted exclusive access to Kennedy's private papers for the years 1955 to 1963, including his X-rays and prescription drug records.
Kennedy suffered from colitis, prostatitis, and a disorder called Addison's disease, which affects the body's ability to regulate blood sugar and sodium. He also had osteoporosis of the lower back, causing pain so severe that he was unable to perform simple tasks such as reaching across his desk to pull papers forward, or pulling the shoe and sock onto his left foot, Dallek said.
Taking Drugs During Crises
To fight the pain, Kennedy took as many as 12 medications at once, taking more during times of stress.
The medical records reveal that Kennedy variously took codeine, Demerol and methadone for pain; Ritalin, a stimulant; meprobamate and librium for anxiety; barbiturates for sleep; thyroid hormone; and injections of a blood derivative, gamma globulin, a medicine that combats infections.
During the Bay of Pigs fiasco in 1961, and the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962, Kennedy was taking steroids for his Addison's disease, painkillers for his back, anti-spasmodics for his colitis, antibiotics for urinary tract infections, antihistamines for his allergies, and on at least one occasion, an anti-psychotic drug to treat a severe mood change that Jackie Kennedy believed was brought on by the antihistamines.
This deluge of drugs often had side effects, including grogginess or even depression. To treat this Kennedy took more still anti-anxiety medications. Yet, there is no indication that the medications impaired JFK's judgment during crucial moments in U.S. history.
"I studied very closely his performance during these crisis, and what was striking is how effective he was," Dallek said. "He made a bet with himself and the country, in a sense, that he could be president, and he carried it off brilliantly. It was extraordinary."
Hiding the Pain
But Kennedy and his closest circle took great pains to hide his health problems from the public, fearing it would impair his political career. JFK was particularly fearful that revelations about his health problems would hurt him in the neck-and-neck presidential race with Richard Nixon in 1960.
He was so terrified of his medical conditions being known that in the 1960 fight for the Democratic nomination, Lyndon Johnson aides aired the fact that Kennedy had Addison's disease, and the Kennedy campaign flatly denied it, Dallek said. His doctors later published a letter saying his health was excellent.
As amazing as the list of drugs Kennedy took is the fact that it was kept mostly secret. To this day, his closest aides don't know or won't admit the extent of his ailments.
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cruz is such a whore for israel youd think hes jewish, dont expect any change from that character
I use to be a navie dreamer that those in charged would actually make the right choices to better America for everyone. It's dosnt matter who is in. They will only help their backers and sale out this country just for votes. And with more seperation in politics then ever nothing will ever get done.. Big money and votes rule this country.. Period. Sad but true. The days of ragean are gone :'(
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I want america to choose actual change.
Maybe we are a liberal nation that wants to do the warren thing.
Maybe we are a conservative nation that wants to do the cruz thing.
Either way, we aren't a RINO nation and this current thing, Bush = obama = mccain = jeb = Hilary.
I'd like to see someone really shift things, and I'd like Americans to have such a contrast from which to choose. I'd take Cruz, of course.
I agree. It is good to remember that the President's powers to change things is very limited. For real change to happen, we will need new faces in congress and at the local level. This is easier said then done. The cost of a successful campaign today insures politicians are at the mercy of corporate America and their interests. Make no mistake about this.
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I use to be a navie dreamer that those in charged would actually make the right choices to better America for everyone. It's dosnt matter who is in. They will only help their backers and sale out this country just for votes. And with more seperation in politics then ever nothing will ever get done.. Big money and votes rule this country.. Period. Sad but true. The days of ragean are gone :'(
reagan expanded the government :'(
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Reagan was a few days short of 70 years old when he was inaugurated. McCain would have been 71. So Hilary's age is not going to be an issue.
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I drop a bombshell for you, does she have experience being a lying politician just like the rest of them do? absolutely they are all hacks.. experience these days at a state level means are you good at making a decision so if something goes wrong it cant be traced back to you.
There isnt one person I like running for office but i like her least of all
Gary Johnson's going to be in the race soon, so there's one candidate worth voting for in a sea of shit
Sadly the electorate is made up of drooling cretins who are more concerned with a candidates hair or gender than boring policies and dull issues
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Reagan was a few days short of 70 years old when he was inaugurated. McCain would have been 71. So Hilary's age is not going to be an issue.
You are probably right. It doesn't change the fact that most of us who have reached the grand old age of 70, don't have the same energy we did when we were 60, 50 or 40 years old. As for Reagan, it seems possible he was already suffering the beginnings of Alzheimer's http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-presidency/story?id=12633225 . Senator McCain has had his share of health issues over the years.
When it comes to health problems, many of this nation's Presidents had serious health concerns before and during the time they were in office. Whether it affected their performance or not is probably open to debate. JFK was a health wreck. President Roosevelt suffered paralysis in both legs as the result of polio.
"From heart failure to depression, U.S. presidents have suffered from common health problems. Our first 10 war-hero presidents brought a history of illness to the White House, including dysentery, malaria, and yellow fever. Later, many of our leaders attempted to hide their ailing health from the public, making health a medical and political issue." http://www.healthline.com/health-slideshow/diseases-of-presidents
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Gary Johnson's going to be in the race soon, so there's one candidate worth voting for in a sea of shit
Sadly the electorate is made up of drooling cretins who are more concerned with a candidates hair or gender than boring policies and dull issues
Unfortunately, he'll be in the race as a Libertarian. I don't see where there are enough Libertarian voters to get him or any other third party candidate elected.
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Unfortunately, he'll be in the race as a Libertarian. I don't see where there are enough Libertarian voters to get him or any other third party candidate elected.
I'd like to think the majority of Americans would find him the best candidate on actual issues , if there weren't billions of dollars being spent to make the election conversations about everything BUT the things that actually matter
he wouldn't get the fundie or welfare vote but there would be enough decent, working people to put him in the WH if they voted for what's right instead of for the least terrible mainstream candidate
Hillary is just Bush with some pandering to the far left, its business as usual for the NSA, war machine and banks if she gets the vote from a simple minded electorate set on 'making history' again
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I'd like to think the majority of Americans would find him the best candidate on actual issues , if there weren't billions of dollars being spent to make the election conversations about everything BUT the things that actually matter
he wouldn't get the fundie or welfare vote but there would be enough decent, working people to put him in the WH if they voted for what's right instead of for the least terrible mainstream candidate
Hillary is just Bush with some pandering to the far left, its business as usual for the NSA, war machine and banks if she gets the vote from a simple minded electorate set on 'making history' again
In the 30 states where voters can register by party, there is a combined total of 330,811 voters registered as Libertarians. The party has never won a seat in the United States Congress. In the 2012 election, Barack Obama received 65,899,583 votes. Mitt Romney got 60,931,966 votes. Libertarian, Gary Johnson garnered 1,275,821 votes. Something drastic is going to have to change if a Libertarian is going to be elected President of the U.S.
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Like Obama she has not ONE redeeming quality. Her claim to fame is 1. She's Bill's wife 2. She's a women
Her vagina is the ticket, just play the gender card, and the women and manginas WILL EAT IT UP. It doesn't matter that she isn't qualified and incompetent, she owns a vagina. A vote for Hilary, is a vote for vagina.
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Why would you ever have a woman as your leader? Fucking terrifying.
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Just some whore on POF sorry Wiggsy
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Who is this Kim Kardashian-plastic surgery-lookalike?
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A woman president? The founding fathers would be rolling right now.
The only reason they have queens, is because the King dies.
Its a man's job.
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reagan expanded the government :'(
It's unfortunate but it was what it took to beat a world power house who was nothing but goverment.
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It's unfortunate but it was what it took to beat a world power house who was nothing but goverment.
reagan gave us amnesty for 4 or 5 million illegals too, didn't he?
Reagan was very liberal on a lot of things... and sold out to Iran, then played dumb.
Looking back, if you take away the legendary slow-mo romantic montage videos, what you had with Reagan was essentially a RINO who wanted huge govt, let lawbreaking illegals stay, and who played dumb when being caught giving $/weapons to the worst bad guys on earth. Oh, and he created the taleban too, right?
Shit, not the great track record we are all fed.
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reagan gave us amnesty for 4 or 5 million illegals too, didn't he?
Reagan was very liberal on a lot of things... and sold out to Iran, then played dumb.
Looking back, if you take away the legendary slow-mo romantic montage videos, what you had with Reagan was essentially a RINO who wanted huge govt, let lawbreaking illegals stay, and who played dumb when being caught giving $/weapons to the worst bad guys on earth. Oh, and he created the taleban too, right?
Shit, not the great track record we are all fed.
No your right just because I idolize him for beating the so its dosent mean I agree with everthing he did.
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This is what happens when you mess with the Clinton's!!
And in case you have forgotten all the other bodies this witch has left in her wake......Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruleda suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 – Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list!
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I don't know if I can deal with listening about Women's rights for 4 years.
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I'm not sure if there is a bigger kunt in the world than Hilary.
also, I can't wait to see what kind of idiocy Chelsea is going to drop on us when she gets into politics.
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Anyone see the Jeb Bush youtube vid? Dude looks creepy as fuck. Reminded me of Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs with red lipstick on.
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i cant vote for wife who can satisfy her husband , she will blow her own load before she ever steps foot in the white house
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te funny thing is that so many of today's moderate "republicans" are really right there with hilary.
She tried obamacare 15 years too early - including the single payer thing, right? Repubs love that shit.
And many of them voted FOR HER in 2008 thanks to the Rush limbaugh campaign to drag it out for obama. I remember a few very loud getbig "repubs" bragging they voted for Hilary. Oddly, the same ones that voted for Bill in 92 ;)
They hate obama but their hatred for Hilary will be much less. Not sure why. Maybe nostalgic for the 90s, maybe something about obama's appearance they just don't tolerate, who knows.
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te funny thing is that so many of today's moderate "republicans" are really right there with hilary.
She tried obamacare 15 years too early - including the single payer thing, right? Repubs love that shit.
And many of them voted FOR HER in 2008 thanks to the Rush limbaugh campaign to drag it out for obama. I remember a few very loud getbig "repubs" bragging they voted for Hilary. Oddly, the same ones that voted for Bill in 92 ;)
They hate obama but their hatred for Hilary will be much less. Not sure why. Maybe nostalgic for the 90s, maybe something about obama's appearance they just don't tolerate, who knows.
probably because she is smart and not just a puppet like Obama.
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Why would you ever have a woman as your leader? Fucking terrifying.
Margaret Thatcher, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, 1979-1990
Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, 1969-1974
Indira Ghandi, Prime Minister of India, 1966-1977, 1980-1984
Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany, 2005-present
Benazir Bhutto, Prime Minister of Pakistan, 1988-1990
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Margaret Thatcher, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, 1979-1990
Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, 1969-1974
Indira Ghandi, Prime Minister of India, 1966-1977, 1980-1984
Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany, 2005-present
Benazir Bhutto, Prime Minister of Pakistan, 1988-1990
Hilary isn't even close to the level of some of those women
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Hilary isn't even close to the level of some of those women
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Hilary isn't even close to the level of some of those women
Spoken like a true imbecile. Even during Bill's 8 years a lot thought Hillary was the true president.
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New Yorker Magazine Why Hillary Clinton Is Probably Going to Win the 2016 Election (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/04/why-hillary-clinton-is-probably-going-to-win.html)
gives six reasons, the last being:
The argument for Clinton in 2016 is that she is the candidate of the only major American political party not run by lunatics. There is only one choice for voters who want a president who accepts climate science and rejects voodoo economics, and whose domestic platform would not engineer the largest upward redistribution of resources in American history. Even if the relatively sober Jeb Bush wins the nomination, he will have to accommodate himself to his party's barking-mad consensus. She is non-crazy America’s choice by default. And it is not necessarily an exciting choice, but it is an easy one, and a proposition behind which she will probably command a majority.
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There is no left or right political choice. There are only varying degrees of statists running.
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New Yorker Magazine Why Hillary Clinton Is Probably Going to Win the 2016 Election (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/04/why-hillary-clinton-is-probably-going-to-win.html)
gives six reasons, the last being:
The argument for Clinton in 2016 is that she is the candidate of the only major American political party not run by lunatics. There is only one choice for voters who want a president who accepts climate science and rejects voodoo economics, and whose domestic platform would not engineer the largest upward redistribution of resources in American history. Even if the relatively sober Jeb Bush wins the nomination, he will have to accommodate himself to his party's barking-mad consensus. She is non-crazy America’s choice by default. And it is not necessarily an exciting choice, but it is an easy one, and a proposition behind which she will probably command a majority.
So true. Not sure what the fuck most of these republican candidates are drinking. They want to lower taxes and start more wars. Not sure how that economically works out.
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Like Obama she has not ONE redeeming quality. Her claim to fame is 1. She's Bill's wife 2. She's a women
2 1/2 -Unlike Obama, I won't make the mistake of voting for her. ;)
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2 1/2 -Unlike Obama, I won't make the mistake of voting for her. ;)
I serioulsy hope Ted Cruz gets the republican nomination. Not sure how anyone educated or sane can vote for that fucktard.
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Of course he's serious because it's true.
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The Republicans will make a big issue of this. Along with Benghazi, the e-mails, and "Obama's third term."
Because even though she's been basically caught red handed in each of those events with overwhelming proof, it's just all made up...right?
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Why would you ever have a woman as your leader? Fucking terrifying.
Only if you're afraid of women.
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A woman president? The founding fathers would be rolling right now.
The only reason they have queens, is because the King dies.
Its a man's job.
Go live in another century. Times have changed.
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They want to lower taxes and start more wars. Not sure how that economically works out.
I haven't checked, but I'm guessing doing so from 2001 to 2008 led to prosperity and overall awesomeness.
Anyone have the numbers? Did starting 2 wars while slashing taxes completely erase the national debt?
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They hate obama but their hatred for Hilary will be much less. Not sure why. Maybe nostalgic for the 90s, maybe something about obama's appearance they just don't tolerate, who knows.
Obama is black and Hillary is white....it is really, unfortunately, just that simple.
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Spoken like a true imbecile. Even during Bill's 8 years a lot thought Hillary was the true president.
This is a real possibility. Bill Clinton is a schmoozer. He was and is very likable. Hillary is all business.
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Go live in another century. Times have changed.
Yes, I remember when it was considered taboo to partake in a gay gloryhole.
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Obama is black and Hillary is white....it is really, unfortunately, just that simple.
Remember the Dem primary voters, in 2008, that went on camera in the Appalachian area to brag to cnn they voted against obama due to his skin color?
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Yes, I remember when it was considered taboo to partake in a gay gloryhole.
And yet, there you were in a squat position with mouth open to the hole....or was it your butt hole backed up to the glory hole? Your such a girl.
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And yet, there you were in a squat position with mouth open to the hole....or was it your butt hole?
I picture you doing airplane wings through a field of dandelions. All the way hippie.
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I picture you doing airplane wings through a field of dandelions. All the way hippie.
God forbid if we have a educational debate on getbig that dosht bring in race or sexual preference.. Lol such is life
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I picture you doing airplane wings through a field of dandelions. All the way hippie.
Then you picture me as being 22 years old and it was at a party in a friend's backyard and I had a lot of company. Back in those days, pretty much everyone was a hippie or thought they were. Most of us grew up. Never much cared for pot or other drugs though. Now pot is legal. Who would have thought?
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God forbid if we have a educational debate on getbig that dosht bring in race or sexual preference.. Lol such is life
That's because Hilary will get millions of votes from women and gays just because she is a woman.
Just like Obama got millions of votes, just because he was black.
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Wellesley College, Bachelor of Arts 1969. Hillary majored in politics and was a politically active Republican
Yale Law School, Juris Doctor degree 1973. She met Bill Clinton also a Yale law student in 1971. She worked on George McGovern's campaign for President.
Arkansas First Lady for 12 years.
U.S. First Lady during which she was active in health care and other policy initiatives
United States Senator, elected to two terms
Presidential campaign of 2008. On Super Tuesday, Clinton won the largest states, such as California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts, while Obama won more states;they almost evenly split the total popular vote.
Secretary of State 2009 - 2013. During this time her public approval rating had reached 65 percent
April 11, 2015, Hillary officially announces opens her campaign for President.
cut the crap old man and bust out that pic of you in them orange undies >:(
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God forbid if we have a educational debate on getbig that dosht bring in race or sexual preference.. Lol such is life
I'm with you on this. It is really annoying when some idiots have nothing more to say and resort to personal attacks. I probably shouldn't have responded to Schizzo's ridiculous comment, but he and I go back a ways and he thinks remarks like he made are appropriate. I realize I'm playing in the sandbox with children. Sometimes I lose it and throw sand back at them. Schizzo was doing what he does best which is trolling and I took the bait.
Racism is an issue that has been swept under the table when it comes to criticism about Obama. The fact is many people can't accept that we have a black president. Gender discrimination is at issue now with Hillary. If you read though the latest posts in this thread, there are more than a few guys who seemingly cannot take the idea of the U.S. electing a woman president. If she isn't your candidate of choice that's find as long as the reason isn't just because she's female.
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I'm with you on this. It is really annoying when some idiots have nothing more to say and resort to personal attacks. I probably shouldn't have responded to Schizzo's ridiculous comment, but he and I go back a ways and he thinks remarks like he made are appropriate. I realize I'm playing in the sandbox with children. Sometimes I lose it and throw sand back at them. Schizzo was doing what he does best which is trolling and I took the bait.
Racism is an issue that has been swept under the table when it comes to criticism about Obama. The fact is many people can't accept that we have a black president. Gender discrimination is at issue now with Hillary. If you read though the latest posts in this thread, there are more than a few guys who seemingly cannot take the idea of the U.S. electing a woman president. If she isn't your candidate of choice that's find as long as the reason isn't just because she's female.
I am just trying to level the playing field. You are going to have millions of "progressive thinkers ::)" Who are going to vote for Hilary simply for the fact that she is a woman. Do you think that is a good reason to vote for someone? That is the true gender discrimination.
The poor fella running against Hilary will not stand a chance.
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New Yorker Magazine Why Hillary Clinton Is Probably Going to Win the 2016 Election (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/04/why-hillary-clinton-is-probably-going-to-win.html)
gives six reasons, the last being:
The argument for Clinton in 2016 is that she is the candidate of the only major American political party not run by lunatics. There is only one choice for voters who want a president who accepts climate science and rejects voodoo economics, and whose domestic platform would not engineer the largest upward redistribution of resources in American history. Even if the relatively sober Jeb Bush wins the nomination, he will have to accommodate himself to his party's barking-mad consensus. She is non-crazy America’s choice by default. And it is not necessarily an exciting choice, but it is an easy one, and a proposition behind which she will probably command a majority.
"The only party not run by lunatics? Haha. They can't be serious? Lmao. Line of the day right there. Lol
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"The only party not run by lunatics? Haha. They can't be serious? Lmao. Line of the day right there. Lol
theyre not the party associated with messianic politics
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I am just trying to level the playing field. You are going to have millions of "progressive thinkers ::)" Who are going to vote for Hilary simply for the fact that she is a woman. Do you think that is a good reason to vote for someone? That is the true gender discrimination.
The poor fella running against Hilary will not stand a chance.
I suspect you are right on, a lot of folks will vote for her (especially women) just because she is another woman. No, I don't think that is a good reason to vote for someone. And for people whose only reason for voting for Hillary, well shame on them because it is gender discrimination. Fortunately, Hillary is more than just any woman. She has a lifetime of history in politics and she's incredibly smart. Now if Sara Palin were the woman candidate, I'd feel very differently. While she has a little bit of experience in politics, she's more cunning and conniving then intelligent.
-Can't say who I am going to vote for yet. It's too soon to know who is the best of the crop. I will vote for the person who I believe will serve this country well regardless of whether it is a woman or man or whether they are black or white.
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"The only party not run by lunatics? Haha. They can't be serious? Lmao. Line of the day right there. Lol
Hillary was a U.S. Senator representing New York. The fact that the New Yorker is supporting her is significant.
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I will seriously lose hope for humanity if a bitch like her becomes President. If you're a man and you vote for her you aren't a man. Prime muscle doens't count he is a gossiping buisy body queer just the type that would vote for her.
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Hilary has a psychotic look to her.
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Hilary has a psychotic look to her.
She really does. Possessed eyes. Johnny Falcon would say Reptilian like.
It's amazing that the Dems don't seem to have any other candidates. I guess they realized America was tired of the old white man running the country so they pushed the black and now will push the female.
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Goodrum 2016
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Goodrum 2016
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Goodrum/Vissy 2016
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She really does. Possessed eyes. Johnny Falcon would say Reptilian like.
It's amazing that the Dems don't seem to have any other candidates. I guess they realized America was tired of the old white man running the country so they pushed the black and now will push the female.
Dems will probably have a gay or transgender candidate come 2020 if Hilary fails.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038621/More-2-MILLION-Hillary-Clinton-s-Twitter-followers-fake-never-tweet.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038621/More-2-MILLION-Hillary-Clinton-s-Twitter-followers-fake-never-tweet.html
did you have a fake pro soccer player on your instagram ???
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LOL @ the "breaking news". They're all like this.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/twitter-politicians-107672.html
Hilary has more followers in baghdad than any other candidate... doesn't mean the military vote prefers her, does it?
I can tell you with 100% confidence that only the small percentage of women in the military, the ones that think they have a dick and try to prove they can do everthing men can do types. Like her. Everyone else no we can't stand her because we have to work around the type of women I just described which is Hillary
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did you have a fake pro soccer player on your instagram ???
I didn't buy it. He just started following me. I don't buy followers.
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Hillary was a U.S. Senator representing New York. The fact that the New Yorker is supporting her is significant.
Getting elected isn't a job accomplishment.
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I can tell you with 100% confidence that only the small percentage of women in the military, the ones that think they have a dick and try to prove they can do everthing men can do types. Like her. Everyone else no we can't stand her because we have to work around the type of women I just described which is Hillary
You make me laugh. You have a tatoo on your belly from Nelson Mandela about learning not to hate and then go around spewing epic hate for middle easterners and women. Go figure. Once in a while look in a mirror and read what's on your stomach.
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I will seriously lose hope for humanity if a bitch like her becomes President. If you're a man and you vote for her you aren't a man. Prime muscle doens't count he is a gossiping buisy body queer just the type that would vote for her.
It is Primemuscle, not Prime muscle. It's busybody, not buisy body.
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Getting elected isn't a job accomplishment.
No it isn't. It is actually more difficult to get elected to office than it is to apply for and get a job. Getting elected Senator twice is a big accomplishment.
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She's 70 years old I beleive so at least no more PMS, no more menopause. At this point her hormones are shot so she won't have psychotic moments. I wouldn't be shocked if she's doing some sort of HRT and HGH to try to stay young. She could be a bad ass president. Has great ideas. I just don't want to deal with women barking for more equal rights.
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She's 70 years old I beleive so at least no more PMS, no more menopause. At this point her hormones are shot so she won't have psychotic moments. I wouldn't be shocked if she's doing some sort of HRT and HGH to try to stay young. She could be a bad ass president. Has great ideas. I just don't want to deal with women barking for more equal rights.
You have a point. For some women estrogen is a bitch and sometimes makes them bitchy. This is not true for all women. My wife never exhibited big mood swings. On the other hand, my mom could be a pain to be around when she her hormones were doing their thing.
Hillary is too smart to use her time in office, should she be elected President, to lobby for women's rights. She'll have a lot more than this issue on her plate.
I have no issue with women making equal pay for equal work. I think this is the main issue some women talk about these days when it comes to equal rights.
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No it isn't. It is actually more difficult to get elected to office than it is to apply for and get a job. Getting elected Senator twice is a big accomplishment.
You missed the point. Just because you get the job doesn't mean you can do the job
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You missed the point. Just because you get the job doesn't mean you can do the job
I considered this after I'd already replied to you. You're right of course. If an elected official doesn't do their job well enough and are still reelected to that same position, the ownness is on the voters.
Oregon's Governor wasn't doing his job. The Oregonian exposed the irregularities and perhaps illegal activities he and his girlfriend, who he insisted be called the first lady, were involved in. Oregon voters didn't have to wait for him to be reelected, not that he could have been, he was forced to resign. It's been quite the scandal.
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I can tell you with 100% confidence that only the small percentage of women in the military, the ones that think they have a dick and try to prove they can do everthing men can do types. Like her. Everyone else no we can't stand her because we have to work around the type of women I just described which is Hillary
Fair enough but come on, swabbie. You were in the Navy. I'm sure you had to follow orders and stuff but it's more like working for Captain Stubbing than being in the military.
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She's 70 years old I beleive so at least no more PMS, no more menopause. At this point her hormones are shot so she won't have psychotic moments. I wouldn't be shocked if she's doing some sort of HRT and HGH to try to stay young. She could be a bad ass president. Has great ideas. I just don't want to deal with women barking for more equal rights.
we'll probably go to war under her administration lol
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we'll probably go to war under her administration lol
We went to war during the Bush administration. We are still at war in a much reduced sense under the Obama administration. Russia has been rearing it's head lately. Will the next war be with Russia regardless of who becomes President?
These are the past Presidents whose administration have led or and/or involved the U.S in war.
George Washington, Revolutionary War (1775-1783)
Thomas Jefferson, Tripolitan War (1801-1805) against Tripoli (now in Libya)
James Madison, War of 1812, the Creek War (1813-14)
James Monroe, Indian Wars of 1817-1821, First Seminole War (1817-18), Indian Wars of 1817-1821, Monroe Doctrine (1823)
Andrew Jackson, Black Hawk War (1832), Second Seminole War (1835-42)
James Knox Polk, Mexican War (1846-1848)
Franklin Pierce, Third Seminole War (1855-58)
Abraham Lincoln, Civil War (1861-65)
Ulysses Simpson Grant, Battle of the Little Bighorn (1876)
(Stephen) Grover Cleveland, Apache Wars against Geronimo (1876-1886)
William McKinley, Spanish-American War (1898)
(Thomas) Woodrow Wilson, World War I (1914-1918)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, World War II (1939-1945)
Harry S. Truman, atomic bombing of Japan (1945), Cold War with Soviet Union, Korean War (1950-1953)
Dwight David Eisenhower, Cold War with Soviet Union continues
John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Bay of Pigs incident
Ronald Wilson Reagan, military involvements in Grenada, Central America, Lebanon, Libya
George Herbert Walker Bush, Persian Gulf War I with Iraq (1990)
William Jefferson Clinton, Persian Gulf War II with Iraq (1999) Serbia vs. Bosnia, Kosovo, NATO...
George W. Bush, Afgan War against the Talliban and Al Qaeda (2001...) Iraqi Invasion and Occupation (2003...), "War on Terror"
Barack Hussein II Obama, "Pashtunistan - Waziristan War", continuing legacy of all G. W. Bush Administration wars.
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Very trustworthy woman. ::)
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Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie. The few political jobs she ever had she did poorly with zero accountability for anything after it goes to hell. Elect this kunt at your own peril.
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She's terrible but she will be the next president. She's not as terrible as Tony Romo but she's really really terrible.
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She's terrible but she will be the next president. She's not as terrible as Tony Romo but she's really really terrible.
I'm not so sure I think the dems will sick the dogs on her before the repubs.
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Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie. The few political jobs she ever had she did poorly with zero accountability for anything after it goes to hell. Elect this kunt at your own peril.
You may not vote for her, but I'll bet you'd have her sit on your face?
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She's terrible but she will be the next president. She's not as terrible as Tony Romo but she's really really terrible.
Are you saying Romo is like... Josef Stalin terrible? Or more like Atilla the Hun terrible?
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You may not vote for her, but I'll bet you'd have her sit on your face?
No dude. Maybe Chelsea if I had a few drinks in me.
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;D
maybe she intends to bring back slavery... :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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;Dmaybe she intends to bring back slavery... :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Funk51, are you suggesting that it's not actually those dirty Republicans who were behind the KKK? And that the Repubs are NOT the people who may actually want to put the coloreds "back in chains"? :o
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Funk51, are you suggesting that it's not actually those dirty Republicans who were behind the KKK? And that the Repubs are NOT the people who may actually want to put the coloreds "back in chains"? :o
I hope that's sarcasm. Otherwise you need to do a little research.
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Why I am not voting for Clinton. 1. Claims she is broke and claims to be one of the middle class. Yes, she is on tape saying that. Bill made 100 million being paid for speeches and she made 5 million. 2. Erases the hard drives of her computers when investigated for using private emails. 3. Claims she came under sniper fire in Bosnia when the film shows it was a lie as officials and school girls greeted her. I have the video tape. 4. She defended a pedophile who raped a 12 year old girl as a lawyer and laughed on tape how he beat the lie detector. Her defense of her client was to say the child was a slut. Because of the rape she can't have children. Yes, audio tape of her talking about this exists.5. Benghazi. They were begging for their life and attack helicopters were ready to fly into the area. As Secretary of State she did absolutely nothing then lied saying she was advised by the military nothing could be done. Then she claimed illness to delay testimony so she could plan and practice her defense.6. Accepts millions from Arab countries for her foundation where women are property yet claims to be a champion for women's rights. 25 million from Saudi Arabia alone. As the administrator on the board she can pay herself anything she wants from the money. She recently resigned from her own foundation knowing this would be revealed.7. Members of the secret service said she treated them like scum. More than one has come forward.
If anyone doubts what I'm saying I will show you the youtubes of her caught on video tape.
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Why I am not voting for Clinton. 1. Claims she is broke and claims to be one of the middle class. Yes, she is on tape saying that. Bill made 100 million being paid for speeches and she made 5 million. 2. Erases the hard drives of her computers when investigated for using private emails. 3. Claims she came under sniper fire in Bosnia when the film shows it was a lie as officials and school girls greeted her. I have the video tape. 4. She defended a pedophile who raped a 12 year old girl as a lawyer and laughed on tape how he beat the lie detector. Her defense of her client was to say the child was a slut. Because of the rape she can't have children. Yes, audio tape of her talking about this exists.5. Benghazi. They were begging for their life and attack helicopters were ready to fly into the area. As Secretary of State she did absolutely nothing then lied saying she was advised by the military nothing could be done. Then she claimed illness to delay testimony so she could plan and practice her defense.6. Accepts millions from Arab countries for her foundation where women are property yet claims to be a champion for women's rights. 25 million from Saudi Arabia alone. As the administrator on the board she can pay herself anything she wants from the money. She recently resigned from her own foundation knowing this would be revealed.7. Members of the secret service said she treated them like scum. More than one has come forward.
If anyone doubts what I'm saying I will show you the youtubes of her caught on video tape.
Hillary says they were "dead broke" when they left the White House or when Bill's term in office ended in 2001. If you do the math, this is 14 years ago. Perhaps it would have helped you be more accurate had you watched the interview with Hillary which is posted in this tread. BTW this is not new news. They said this at the time it happened. The fact that the Clinton's recovered financially is testimony to their resourcefulness and ambition.
I have concerns about how she handled the situation with the emails too. Her actions seem suspicious. This issue bears further investigation in my opinion. One would assume that had this action been illegal Republican's would be pursuing this.
In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas - using her child development background to help the defendant. The public defender, of course, exists to represent criminal defendants. If someone is unwilling to do that, they need to get into a different line of work.
Lawyers who do criminal defense work are committed to the concept of due process--the right of criminal defendants to be represented by counsel and ensuring that the state meets its burden of proof. Defense attorneys do not have to condone their clients' conduct or like them. Their job is make sure they get a fair trial and an competent defense.
Here is a link to an interesting take on the Benghazi situation: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/clinton-benghazi-hearing_n_2568439.html. Whether Hillary's concussion was real or faked is privileged information under HIPAA rules. Only she and the treating physician know whether she had a concussion. That she faked it, is pure speculation. For and interesting read on Benghazi, try this: https://books.google.com/books?id=jUGqAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=How+called+the+shots+regarding+Benghazi?&source=bl&ots=RKMdJ0HWAy&sig=xt3rAllf7E5dsV9FgokTplXV1TE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zO4yVeC1DMm6ogTYkYHoCg&ved=0CFYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=How%20called%20the%20shots%20regarding%20Benghazi%3F&f=false. The Secretary of State holds and advisory position and does not necessarily call the shots.
Clinton resigned from her philanthropy's board of directors immediately after declaring her presidential campaign on Sunday. The Foundation will now only accept funding from Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway and the United Kingdom, according to new foundation policies that will be posted online.
Proving (or disproving) the genuineness of an anonymous second-hand report of information supposedly provided by an equally anonymous Secret Service agent is a formidable task, but several factors tend to indicate this piece is more likely something created for partisan political reasons than an actual Secret Service agent's account.
A link to these tapes you speak of would help let the rest of us decide there validity for for ourselves. Without the links, these are just insinuations, much like the one Rand Paul recently made. http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/rand-paul-says-secret-scandal-will-wreck-hillary-s-campaign/430028867565/Comcast/Today_in_Video/?cid=hero_sf_TIV_Paul
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A link to these tapes would help let the rest of us decide there validity for for ourselves. Without the links, these are just insinuations, much like the one Rand Paul recently made. http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/rand-paul-says-secret-scandal-will-wreck-hillary-s-campaign/430028867565/Comcast/Today_in_Video/?cid=hero_sf_TIV_Paul
You're a real chump if you don't think at least 90 percent of this is true.
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Can't wait.
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If only he'd trade in the King James for a Jeffersonian.
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Hillary has been living off tax payer's dollars since Bill Clinton was the State Attorney General in Arkansas in 1977. 1977! That's THIRTY-EIGHT YEARS of being part of the system. She is an elitist who knows nothing of the middle class and cares nothing for anyone other than another elitist.
She will be terrible but she will win. She automatically has all the votes from women, Mexicans, blacks and gays. Even if she has Tony Romo as Vice President she will still win.
Did I mention how terrible Tony Romo is?
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Hillary says they were "dead broke" when they left the White House or when Bill's term in office ended in 2001. If you do the math, this is 14 years ago. Perhaps it would have helped you be more accurate had you watched the interview with Hillary which is posted in this tread. BTW this is not new news. They said this at the time it happened. The fact that the Clinton's recovered financially is testimony to their resourcefulness and ambition.
I have concerns about how she handled the situation with the emails too. Her actions seem suspicious. This issue bears further investigation in my opinion. One would assume that had this action been illegal Republican's would be pursuing this.
In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas - using her child development background to help the defendant. The public defender, of course, exists to represent criminal defendants. If someone is unwilling to do that, they need to get into a different line of work.
Lawyers who do criminal defense work are committed to the concept of due process--the right of criminal defendants to be represented by counsel and ensuring that the state meets its burden of proof. Defense attorneys do not have to condone their clients' conduct or like them. Their job is make sure they get a fair trial and an competent defense.
Here is a link to an interesting take on the Benghazi situation: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/clinton-benghazi-hearing_n_2568439.html. Whether Hillary's concussion was real or faked is privileged information under HIPAA rules. Only she and the treating physician know whether she had a concussion. That she faked it, is pure speculation. For and interesting read on Benghazi, try this: https://books.google.com/books?id=jUGqAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=How+called+the+shots+regarding+Benghazi?&source=bl&ots=RKMdJ0HWAy&sig=xt3rAllf7E5dsV9FgokTplXV1TE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zO4yVeC1DMm6ogTYkYHoCg&ved=0CFYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=How%20called%20the%20shots%20regarding%20Benghazi%3F&f=false. The Secretary of State holds and advisory position and does not necessarily call the shots.
Clinton resigned from her philanthropy's board of directors immediately after declaring her presidential campaign on Sunday. The Foundation will now only accept funding from Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway and the United Kingdom, according to new foundation policies that will be posted online.
Proving (or disproving) the genuineness of an anonymous second-hand report of information supposedly provided by an equally anonymous Secret Service agent is a formidable task, but several factors tend to indicate this piece is more likely something created for partisan political reasons than an actual Secret Service agent's account.
A link to these tapes you speak of would help let the rest of us decide there validity for for ourselves. Without the links, these are just insinuations, much like the one Rand Paul recently made. http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/rand-paul-says-secret-scandal-will-wreck-hillary-s-campaign/430028867565/Comcast/Today_in_Video/?cid=hero_sf_TIV_Paul
You're progressive liberalness knows no bounds. Accepting millions for speaking over seas including Arab countries for money and accepting Arab money for their foundation is a fact. So making millions speaking at a Arab country is genuine work or payment for future considerations?They stopped taking Arab money when they realized they had no defense for their mistreatment of women and it would hurt her campaign. There is no other reason why they stopped taking Arab oil money. It's a fact she cried poverty and being poor. That is just out of touch with blue collar working people. It's a fact she lied about running for her life from snipers when they had CBS news film the event. How you could support someone like that is beyond me. Yes, she attacked a child's reputation and that is low no matter what capacity she was working at as a lawyer . Yes, she laughed that she knew her client was guilty but passed a lie detector test on audio tape. Anonymous secret service agent? So Ronald Kessler's book was fiction?
Sniper fire lie
I was broke
Laughing about how her client beat the lie detector test on audio tape when she knew the guy who raped a child so badly she could never have children again.
I can post more but a left progressive liberal living in a liberal state will never see the light. I hope this country can be righted before it's destroyed.
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Hillary has been living off tax payer's dollars since Bill Clinton was the State Attorney General in Arkansas in 1977. 1977! That's THIRTY-EIGHT YEARS of being part of the system. She is an elitist who knows nothing of the middle class and cares nothing for anyone other than another elitist.
She will be terrible but she will win. She automatically has all the votes from women, Mexicans, blacks and gays. Even if she has Tony Romo as Vice President she will still win.
Did I mention how terrible Tony Romo is?
The fact that Hillary and Bill have lived off tax payer dollars is relatively meaningless. All politicians and government employees live off taxpayer dollars. How else would you suggest they get paid for public service? Whatwever Hillary knows or cares about regarding the middle class only she knows. Unless you have personal experience with her, your comment is merely an opinion that is also of no value.
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The fact that Hillary and Bill have lived off tax payer dollars is relatively meaningless. All politicians and government employees live off taxpayer dollars. How else would you suggest they get paid for public service? Whatwever Hillary knows or cares about regarding the middle class only she knows. Unless you have personal experience with her, your comment is merely an opinion that is also of no value.
It's said that politics makes for strange bedfellows, but I think that the ones that are truly getting screwed (without ever having been in the sack) are the public.
To be specific, the working public. And that would include those that are retired after a lifetime of work. The evil that men do for their own sake may well be made insignificant by this shrill manlet of a woman.
I would hate to see her personal "Dorian Gray". Come to think of it, she most likely avoids garlic and mirrors too.
*SHUDDER*
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It's said that politics makes for strange bedfellows, but I think that the ones that are truly getting screwed (without ever having been in the sack) are the public.
To be specific, the working public. And that would include those that are retired after a lifetime of work. The evil that men do for their own sake may well be made insignificant by this shrill manlet of a woman.
I would hate to see her personal "Dorian Gray". Come to think of it, she most likely avoids garlic and mirrors too.
*SHUDDER*
I like some of this post. Often career politicians lose site of what they've been elected to do, which is represent the people. Hypothetically, they should champion the people's wishes regardless of their personal beliefs. Unfortunately the political machine is such that getting elected and reelected costs a ton of money. Big business doesn't hesitate to support politicians who they believe will feel obligated to return the favor by passing laws which protect them. Democrats like to tout that they are elected by the people, but in truth, that's not entirely true. Big business and collectives like unions who can donate large sums of money to their campaign's have the same expectation that the politician will return the favor.
I don't see Hillary as a manlet, but she is probably a tough cookie. One would have to be to accomplish what she has in a lifetime. A vote for Hillary is not a vote for someone claiming to be just another housewife. Sara Palin used that guise in her campaign. Fortunately, it didn't work. Now that's a shudder the thought. Sara Palin as President? Please.
The way the public gets screwed is when they aren't being well represented. They are also getting the shaft from a Congress that cannot work in unison to get things accomplished. The ongoing use of the filibuster is a disgusting tactic, which stalls any movement on the issues before us.
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You're a real chump if you don't think at least 90 percent of this is true.
Anything is a possibility. Time will tell. At this point, Rand Paul is simply talking out his ass.
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You're progressive liberalness knows no bounds. Accepting millions for speaking over seas including Arab countries for money and accepting Arab money for their foundation is a fact. So making millions speaking at a Arab country is genuine work or payment for future considerations?They stopped taking Arab money when they realized they had no defense for their mistreatment of women and it would hurt her campaign. There is no other reason why they stopped taking Arab oil money. It's a fact she cried poverty and being poor. That is just out of touch with blue collar working people. It's a fact she lied about running for her life from snipers when they had CBS news film the event. How you could support someone like that is beyond me. Yes, she attacked a child's reputation and that is low no matter what capacity she was working at as a lawyer . Yes, she laughed that she knew her client was guilty but passed a lie detector test on audio tape. Anonymous secret service agent? So Ronald Kessler's book was fiction?
Sniper fire lie
I was broke
Laughing about how her client beat the lie detector test on audio tape when she knew the guy who raped a child so badly she could never have children again.
I can post more but a left progressive liberal living in a liberal state will never see the light. I hope this country can be righted before it's destroyed.
Let's be clear here. I have not said I am voting for Hillary. Fact is I won't decide who I am voting for until we have a chance to vet all the candidates.
No doubt if the first video was recorded during the time it supposedly was, Hillary is glorifying that trip. I doubt she's take her daughter into a war zone.
The second video is all but inaudible, but it is the same interview I posted a link to. My problem with your post is that you implied being broke was the Clintons current financial state when clearly it is not. The video speaks to 2001 not 2015.
The third video is a real stretch on your part. If she even laughed, which it doesn't appear she did, she was laughing or smiling about how his passing the polygraph destroyed forever her faith in polygraphs.
I'm beginning to wonder if you even check what you post. It doesn't work to read the title or the headlines which are designed to grab your attention. You actually have to watch the whole video or read the whole article. This is not to say everything we see or read in the media is correct or honest. A lot of it is a matter of opinion which protects them from actually lying. It's a free speech county, people are entitled to an opinion whether it is supported by facts or not.
This whole liberals verses conservatives is nonsense. Maybe this is true for those on the fringes politically, but the average citizen and voter takes a more open view.
Like I said, it is too early to support any candidate for President in 2016. What I am about is keeping to the facts and leaving out opinions which truthfully mean nothing especially this early in the game....and it is a game, make no mistake about that.
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brutal
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I hope that's sarcasm. Otherwise you need to do a little research.
Are you suggesting that Hillary is a liar? :o
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agreed - americans should see FULL medical history and scans. No way we should just 'take her word for it'.
BUT
there's a huge precedent for us just taking the president's word for it. Mccain was a 4x cancer survivor and all we got was a quick skim of records for selected media. Palin had promiscious Glen-rice behavior and erratic rants - STDs and medication were definitely something to consider - we got one paragraph from her doc saying everything is awesome.
JFK was addled with back issues and living on pain meds - dangerous, and his results were erratic. Tsongas would have died in office - he lied about his cancer being healed, knowingly. There is no real accountability for health - but they should be. Many suspect hilary's medical probs are way worse - but we will never know.
What do you think about this article, 240? Are you still going to vote for her even with these obvious health problems?