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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275919/Investigation-Hillary-s-email-server-focuses-Espionage-Act-10-years-jail-FBI-agent-says-prosecuted-just-failing-tell-Obama.html
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There has been no confirmed breach what so ever, has there?
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HAHAHAAHAHA look at the desperation of this idiot.
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wow, repubs are seriously scared of hilary.
back in 2008, Rush was encouraging repubs to vote for her.
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she could also be the president for 8 years
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HAHAHAAHAHA look at the desperation of this idiot.
LOL...240 posts starts 100 threads a day about Trump and Carson and you're right there on your knees kissing his dick. Either you don't think or you're a COMPLETE hypocrite or both. My guess is both. Even after the socialist debates the other night you or 240 still can't come with a reason why you'd vote for killary or Sanders. It's obvious and blatant that you libs socialists in the worst way. Why not just admit it. I remember a couple of weeks ago 240 thought I personally attacking him because I called him a lib. lol
*waiting for the 240 spin
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she could also be the president for 8 years
And the ONLY reason would be is because she's a women. Other than that she has nothing. She's failed in all of her past jobs.
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And the ONLY reason would be is because she's a women. Other than that she has nothing. She's failed in all of her past jobs.
I didn't realize that "success in past jobs" was a prerequisite for the Presidency. If it is, a number of Presidents (and aspiring Presidents) haven't gotten the memo.
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she will be protected by the administration/democratic party at all costs. if it were anyone else, they would have to face prosecution. but shes Hillary, so she wont even sniff jail unfortunately
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And the ONLY reason would be is because she's a women. Other than that she has nothing. She's failed in all of her past jobs.
She's a women?
How many?
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I didn't realize that "success in past jobs" was a prerequisite for the Presidency. If it is, a number of Presidents (and aspiring Presidents) haven't gotten the memo.
In terms of past job failures, can anyone even touch Dubya's resume?
Too bad for Coach, none of Clinton's failure include losing to the GOP.
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I'd be amazed if she actually sees any prison time.
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She's a women?
How many?
Coach can't seem to grasp that "women" is plural for "woman".. Yet you don't see him typing "he's a men".
However, does anyone really think we'll see a politician of such prominence go to prison?
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Sooooooooooooooooooooo.. ..nobody has a problem at all voting for someone who is facing 10 years in prison or is under an FBI investigation for violating national security. If any of you had done this....and I mean one TS violation, your security clearance would have been pulled and as a civilian, you would have been fired. One violation at her level of information, they ought to just shoot you. I can't imagine the shit this dumb bitch and her staff of half wits had access to. The world is burning under Obama's watch, yet all you people care about is Trump and what the repubs are doing.
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LOL...240 posts starts 100 threads a day about Trump and Carson and you're right there on your knees kissing his dick. Either you don't think or you're a COMPLETE hypocrite or both. My guess is both. Even after the socialist debates the other night you or 240 still can't come with a reason why you'd vote for killary or Sanders. It's obvious and blatant that you libs socialists in the worst way. Why not just admit it. I remember a couple of weeks ago 240 thought I personally attacking him because I called him a lib. lol
*waiting for the 240 spin
i hate them both and support Ted Cruz.
anyone will tell you i've been Cruz 2016 for quite some time.
i just hate trump, even if the 'repubs' have fallen in love with his liberal ass thanks to tv star power.
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Sooooooooooooooooooooo....nobody has a problem at all voting for someone who is facing 10 years in prison or is under an FBI investigation for violating national security. If any of you had done this....and I mean one TS violation, your security clearance would have been pulled and as a civilian, you would have been fired. One violation at her level of information, they ought to just shoot you. I can't imagine the shit this dumb bitch and her staff of half wits had access to. The world is burning under Obama's watch, yet all you people care about is Trump and what the repubs are doing.
A lot of people have been under investigation, that doesn't make them guilty. (I'm not going to vote for Republican or Democrat most likely... I hate them both equally.)
I think I read where 1/2 of congress can't get a TS clearance because of credit issues or something.
The world is burning? Really? BURNING?!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275919/Investigation-Hillary-s-email-server-focuses-Espionage-Act-10-years-jail-FBI-agent-says-prosecuted-just-failing-tell-Obama.html
Investigation is loooong over with and Hillary won't be charged with anything. She was not an elected official but a government employee and like other employees, they sometimes work from home. You can't charge someone for something that wasn't illegal. ::)
BTW, if you're going to post something then use an American source
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Investigation is loooong over with and Hillary won't be charged with anything. She was not an elected official but a government employee and like other employees, they sometimes work from home. You can't charge someone for something that wasn't illegal. ::)
BTW, if you're going to post something then use an American source
I know in your short and rather low ranking military career you might not have come across a lot of TS level crap but even you would know if a document that had the locations of NORTH KOREAN FUCKING NUKE SITES...that you might want to ensure it was secure. The FBI is currently investigating her dude....no government employee is allowed to work from home with TS of higher level crap unless they have a government SIPR line put in their place by the government. She had her info stored in the shitter in Denver. I don't think she'll do time but she fucked up.
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I know in your short and rather low ranking military career you might not have come across a lot of TS level crap but even you would know if a document that had the locations of NORTH KOREAN FUCKING NUKE SITES...that you might want to ensure it was secure. The FBI is currently investigating her dude....no government employee is allowed to work from home with TS of higher level crap unless they have a government SIPR line put in their place by the government. She had her info stored in the shitter in Denver. I don't think she'll do time but she fucked up.
This post is 100% spot on.
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More....we would have people who would fuck up and send a secret doc or cut and paste from a doc and email it out. Anybody who got cc'd would have their shit locked down. The guy who did the spill would get a hand slap first but after awhile on my last tour, folks were getting letters of reprimand. This was for bullshit info...crap that nobody would care about at the secret level....not TS. This is not "nothing" as you people put it. The level that Sec State see's is incredible. They know what the Tier One units are all doing if it affects something that State is doing. Just the mention of some of those units and activities out in the open will get you a quick felony charge. Anybody wonder how a Team 6 bird with some of the same guys who hit Bin Laden gets smoked by a random camel jockey a few months after the raid? The post mission opsec by the Obama admin was appalling...yeah and that includes all the books that came out.
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I guess the majority of the American public don't care.
Since this is a government by the people and for the people, if the people don't care, then what is the problem?
For what it's worth, if you can prove that bad things got into the hands of people who shouldn't have it, I'll stand up and tell you she should be prosecuted... 100%.
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I know in your short and rather low ranking military career you might not have come across a lot of TS level crap but even you would know if a document that had the locations of NORTH KOREAN FUCKING NUKE SITES...that you might want to ensure it was secure. The FBI is currently investigating her dude....no government employee is allowed to work from home with TS of higher level crap unless they have a government SIPR line put in their place by the government. She had her info stored in the shitter in Denver. I don't think she'll do time but she fucked up.
This post is 100% spot on.
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Nothing is going to happen to her except become the next President. ;D
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Nothing is going to happen to her except become the next President. ;D
Some sad and quite possible truth. :-\
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Sooooooooooooooooooooo....nobody has a problem at all voting for someone who is facing 10 years in prison or is under an FBI investigation for violating national security.
Not sure how you got from this thread to "nobody has a problem at all voting for [Hillary]"...
If any of you had done this....and I mean one TS violation, your security clearance would have been pulled and as a civilian, you would have been fired.
That's certainly true. Heck, even the suspicion that you did something is enough to ruin your career, even if it turns out you didn't do anything wrong. Given that, it's just inconceivable to me that things are moving as slowly and leisurely as they are.
One violation at her level of information, they ought to just shoot you.
YES! You drag those violators before the drumhead and you show people how we treat traitors!
The world is burning under Obama's watch, yet all you people care about is Trump and what the repubs are doing.
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Coach can't seem to grasp that "women" is plural for "woman".. Yet you don't see him typing "he's a men".
However, does anyone really think we'll see a politician of such prominence go to prison?
You and Lurker....is this Alinski rule 4 or 4a?
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Investigation is loooong over with and Hillary won't be charged with anything. She was not an elected official but a government employee and like other employees, they sometimes work from home. You can't charge someone for something that wasn't illegal. ::)
What the fuck?! Are you insane!? Downloading content classified as TS/SCI over an insecure network, using equipment not explicitly rated for TS/SCI, and storing such content on personal servers isn't illegal? This is "Clearance 101" stuff...
And the using a personal e-mail account to conduct official government business? That's not illegal? Really?!
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What the fuck?! Are you insane!? Downloading content classified as TS/SCI over an insecure network, over computers not explicitly rated for TS/SCI, and storing such content of a personal server isn't illegal? This is "Clearance 101" stuff...
And the using a personal e-mail account to conduct official government business? That's not illegal? Really?!
I actually don't think it was at the time.
It is definitely illegal now, but I do not believe at the time it was.
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I actually don't think it was at the time.
It is definitely illegal now, but I do not believe at the time it was.
You are referring to the "personal e-mail for government business" thing, I take it.
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You and Lurker....is this Alinski rule 4 or 4a?
RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its
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You are referring to the "personal e-mail for government business" thing, I take it.
Yes.
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Coach can't seem to grasp that "women" is plural for "woman".. Yet you don't see him typing "he's a men".
However, does anyone really think we'll see a politician of such prominence go to prison?
Exactly. Despite doing this every single time in the past, his dumb ass simply can't grasp the difference. If you can't understand 3rd grade English, you can't have any of your other rants taken seriously.
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Exactly. Despite doing this every single time in the past, his dumb ass simply can't grasp the difference. If you can't understand 3rd grade English, you can't have any of your other rants taken seriously.
You're not helping your pathetic case about being a socialist/communist and upholding Alinski rule 4 and 4A. You have nothing you pathetic weeble.
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Exactly. Despite doing this every single time in the past, his dumb ass simply can't grasp the difference. If you can't understand 3rd grade English, you can't have any of your other rants taken seriously.
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You're not helping your pathetic case about being a socialist/communist and upholding Alinski rule 4 and 4A. You have nothing you pathetic weeble.
Just out of personal curiosity, have you ever read "Rules for Radicals" or are you just repeating something you heard on talk radio?
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i listen to rush and hannity daily, and beck when i can.
they talk about alinsky all the time. And they call out republicans like Boehnner all the time for doing EXACTLY that - borrowing $ on a friday to start a was on saturday... so they can win on sunday, and be punished on monday - and doing it even though they know the outcome.
That's what they did on this budget, obamacare and more. They helped it thru, they win the benefits and borrow for it, KNOWING FULL WELL their party will punish them out for it by voting them out (cantor, etc).
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/11/the_alinsky_republicans.html
Read about it. Alinsky republicans all the way. I have to laugh when I hear people dropping alinsky all the time because they hear rush say it. If they actually LISTENED to Rush, they'd know he ALSO calls out REPUBLICANS all the time for using Alinsky.
Read that link - it's a VERY conservative site that truly details how the mainstream republicans use Alinsky all the time, against dems AND the tea party. Yet everyone is lined up to vote for hilary's wedding buddy, or the dude who wasn't a registered republican 51 weeks ago. *confused*
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Just out of personal curiosity, have you ever read "Rules for Radicals" or are you just repeating something you heard on talk radio?
Wouldn't matter if he actually did read it. He doesn't possess the necessary brain wattage to comprehend what he reads anyway.
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What the fuck?! Are you insane!? Downloading content classified as TS/SCI over an insecure network, using equipment not explicitly rated for TS/SCI, and storing such content on personal servers isn't illegal? This is "Clearance 101" stuff...
And the using a personal e-mail account to conduct official government business? That's not illegal? Really?!
Actually, it isn't illegal to use a personal email server to do official government business....its just not a good idea. She did the same thing that her predecessors used Condi, Powell, etc. Hillary had sensitive material because she had proper security clearance. She can't be impeached because she was a government employee. She could be censored but it would be seen as another political stunt.....not to mention that pointing fingers at Hillary would lead to fingers pointing right back
It can be investigated till the cows come home but the bottom line is that unless she was intentionally passing top secret information to somewhere like Korea or so, there's nothing else to it. The American people don't give a shit about Hillary's email anymore....just the GOP.
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It is illegal if the documents on said server are supposed to on a SIPR machine. She won't go to jail because of who she is but anyone with any legit military or defense background knows that it was not legal.
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Actually, it isn't illegal to use a personal email server to do official government business....its just not a good idea. She did the same thing that her predecessors used Condi, Powell, etc. Hillary had sensitive material because she had proper security clearance. She can't be impeached because she was a government employee. She could be censored but it would be seen as another political stunt.....not to mention that pointing fingers at Hillary would lead to fingers pointing right back
It can be investigated till the cows come home but the bottom line is that unless she was intentionally passing top secret information to somewhere like Korea or so, there's nothing else to it. The American people don't give a shit about Hillary's email anymore....just the GOP.
It wasn't illegal at the time it happened, but would certainly be today: see the relevant NARA statutes after reading here (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2002-title36-vol3/pdf/CFR-2002-title36-vol3-sec1222-12.pdf).
Even if not explicitly illegal, using her personal e-mail was certainly against State Department policy, violations of which would have subjected others to - at a minimum - a disciplinary hearing and likely termination.
As for your assertion that she didn't mishandle classified information, I'll be blunt: you don't know what you're talking about. What you're saying is simply bogus. I can't just download classified information that I have access to on an insecure machine. That's mishandling of classified information and it's illegal. Hell, you're supposed to handle "sensitive" information with more care than Clinton handled "top secret" information.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275919/Investigation-Hillary-s-email-server-focuses-Espionage-Act-10-years-jail-FBI-agent-says-prosecuted-just-failing-tell-Obama.html
Bill clinton was a myth, he had decent economy only because huge new free market the internet bloomed during his time. He caused 2008 by threatening mortgage copanies and pumped fannie freddy and fed. Reagan had much better economy despite Krugmans revisionist history bs.
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Actually, it isn't illegal to use a personal email server to do official government business....its just not a good idea. She did the same thing that her predecessors used Condi, Powell, etc. Hillary had sensitive material because she had proper security clearance. She can't be impeached because she was a government employee. She could be censored but it would be seen as another political stunt.....not to mention that pointing fingers at Hillary would lead to fingers pointing right back
It can be investigated till the cows come home but the bottom line is that unless she was intentionally passing top secret information to somewhere like Korea or so, there's nothing else to it. The American people don't give a shit about Hillary's email anymore....just the GOP.
No she didn't. Colin Powell did not run classified intel off his home computer.
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No she didn't. Colin Powell did not run classified intel off his home computer.
How do you know this?
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How do you know this?
Grab the meclizine. Here comes the spin.
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Grab the meclizine. Here comes the spin.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
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The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
Don't you know... if you can't prove a negative, then it must be true. Republican Logic 101.
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How do you know this?
Because he would have been the subject of an FBI investigation, just like Hillary. And he's too smart to do something so blatantly illegal. There aren't even any allegations that he did so.
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Because he would have been the subject of an FBI investigation, just like Hillary. And he's too smart to do something so blatantly illegal. There aren't even any allegations that he did so.
That is ridiculous logic.
That's like saying that people don't speed because they never got a speeding ticket.
Nonsense.
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That is ridiculous Republican logic.
That's like saying that people don't speed because they never got a speeding ticket.
Nonsense.
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That is ridiculous logic.
That's like saying that people don't speed because they never got a speeding ticket.
Nonsense.
Well thanks for clearing that up. ::)
What evidence do you have that Colin Powell ran classified intel off his home computer?
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Well thanks for clearing that up. ::)
What evidence do you have that Colin Powell ran classified intel off his home computer?
I didn't say he did.
I also didn't say he didn't.
You are the one making definitive statements, not me.
I asked you what proof you had of YOUR statement, of which you provided NONE.
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I didn't say he did.
I also didn't say he didn't.
You are the one making definitive statements, not me.
I asked you what proof you had of YOUR statement, of which you provided NONE.
I gave you my reasons. You're just arguing about stupid stuff, which you like to do.
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I gave you my reasons. You're just arguing about stupid stuff, which you like to do.
No... you are making blanket statements with no proof.
Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
Just because you want to believe something also doesn't make it true.
You call it an argument for no reason, but really, you're not being very rational in your statements.
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No... you are making blanket statements with no proof.
Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
Just because you want to believe something also doesn't make it true.
You call it an argument for no reason, but really, you're not being very rational in your statements.
If you want to believe that Colin Powell ran classified intel off his home computer, then be my guest. It's stupid. But you are certainly entitled to your own opinion.
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If you want to believe that Colin Powell ran classified intel off his home computer, then be my guest. It's stupid. But you are certainly entitled to your own opinion.
I didn't say I believed it.
I'm simply pointing out how ridiculous your statements are.
Did he have classified intel on his home computer? I don't know... Maybe he did, maybe he didn't... We are talking about someone who left the post 10 years ago. Before most of the cyber units in the FBI even existed.
We're talking about someone who probably didn't know jack about internet security or lack their of due to age and skill set.
Do I think he could have and not realized how dangerous it is? Absolutely.
That doesn't mean he did it, but it doesn't mean he did.
My point is that you make these statements like they are some kind of fact, when you know they are not.
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I didn't say I believed it.
I'm simply pointing out how ridiculous your statements are.
Did he have classified intel on his home computer? I don't know... Maybe he did, maybe he didn't... We are talking about someone who left the post 10 years ago. Before most of the cyber units in the FBI even existed.
We're talking about someone who probably didn't know jack about internet security or lack their of due to age and skill set.
Do I think he could have and not realized how dangerous it is? Absolutely.
That doesn't mean he did it, but it doesn't mean he did.
My point is that you make these statements like they are some kind of fact, when you know they are not.
Yes it's possible he could have signed numerous non-disclosure agreements, received annual training on how to handle classified intel, been surrounded by prohibitions on failing to secure classified intel, and just ignored it by running classified intel off his home computer.
You are welcome to believe that BS if you want. Free country.
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Yes it's possible he could have signed numerous non-disclosure agreements, received annual training on how to handle classified intel, been surrounded by prohibitions on failing to secure classified intel, and just ignored it by running classified intel off his home computer.
You are welcome to believe that BS if you want. Free country.
You're truly asinine to think that it couldn't have possibly happened.
You're free to keep your head in the sand. As you said. Free country.
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Because he would have been the subject of an FBI investigation, just like Hillary. And he's too smart to do something so blatantly illegal. There aren't even any allegations that he did so.
true, if there's one thing we know, it's that any investigations under Bush were complete and thorough.
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true, if there's one thing we know, it's that any investigations under Bush were complete and thorough.
Right? Except they failed to uncover how we faked planes flying into the Twin Towers, faked a plane flying into the Pentagon, and faked a plane crash in PA, while secretly destroying the planes, killing all of the passengers, and destroying their bodies, without a trace, all of which you--a 911 Troofer--believe. Total failure.
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Right? Except they failed to uncover how we faked planes flying into the Twin Towers, faked a plane flying into the Pentagon, and faked a plane crash in PA, while secretly destroying the planes, killing all of the passengers, and destroying their bodies, without a trace, all of which you--a 911 Troofer--believe. Total failure.
you put a lot of time into this. clearly you're emotional tonight.
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you put a lot of time into this. clearly you're emotional tonight.
Are you embarrassed by how much you have invested in the conspiracy theory that foreign terrorists conspired with the United States government to attack us on 9/11?
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Are you embarrassed by how much you have invested in the conspiracy theory that foreign terrorists conspired with the United States government to attack us on 9/11?
(http://suzie81.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/29zcyeh.jpg)
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(http://suzie81.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/29zcyeh.jpg)
Can you re-post some of those pictures you plastered all over the board showing how a missile hit the Pentagon, rather than Flight 77?
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Can you re-post some of those pictures you plastered all over the board showing how a missile hit the Pentagon, rather than Flight 77?
the fact you're living in 2005 debates shows a decade of butt hurt.
That's some serious anal impact compression right there.
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the fact you're living in 2005 debates shows a decade of butt hurt.
That's some serious anal impact compression right there.
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Wait. Have you abandoned your 911 Troofer conspiracy theories? This would be monumental news. :o