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Title: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: The Keto Kid on July 15, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
Juan Diesel, slamming food, it's actually comical, also funny to see Delarosa jump into the mix trying to hang with Juan lol. I would love to see this guy's bloodwork.

Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Marty Champions on July 15, 2017, 07:18:09 PM
Juan Diesel, slamming food, it's actually comical, also funny to see Delarosa jump into the mix trying to hang with Juan lol. I would love to see this guy's bloodwork.


strong dude looks good in a shirt , he could get the white hoes i bet
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: daron_e on July 15, 2017, 07:19:35 PM
Funny how he has these incredible cheat days...yet smaller than most pros.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Marty Champions on July 15, 2017, 07:32:43 PM
how tall is this guy do i have anything to worry about?
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 15, 2017, 09:03:15 PM
Funny how he has these incredible cheat days...yet smaller than most pros.

Cheat days like this were common back in the day. Start at 11:59am Saturday and End at 12:00pm Sunday.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: calfzilla on July 15, 2017, 09:16:09 PM
Not impressive. The average fat woman eats more calories in a day and on a more frequent basis.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: rangerwil on July 15, 2017, 09:21:55 PM
The guy in the grey shirt looks bigger.
Prob cause he's shorter?
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 15, 2017, 09:48:08 PM
Juan Diesel, slamming food, it's actually comical, also funny to see Delarosa jump into the mix trying to hang with Juan lol. I would love to see this guy's bloodwork.



Very good video and great insight at the end of it.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: BIG DUB on July 15, 2017, 10:24:05 PM
Jon looks like a fire plug  :o
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: The Keto Kid on July 15, 2017, 10:29:06 PM
This shit is even more ridiculous, check out his carb up prior to the Prague show, 3 days of McDonalds 8 times a day, dude must have eaten 75 plus burgers and fries throughout the coarse of the 3 days, and why the fuck is he carbing up on burgers? The point of carbing up is carbs not fat/protein, at that point the focus should be tons of carbs, minimal protein, needs to hook up with Chad Nichols get him on tons of dates, banana, and apple pie filling.

Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: ratherbebig on July 16, 2017, 01:21:45 AM
maybe he likes mcdonalds?
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Parker on July 16, 2017, 02:27:30 AM
This shit is even more ridiculous, check out his carb up prior to the Prague show, 3 days of McDonalds 8 times a day, dude must have eaten 75 plus burgers and fries throughout the coarse of the 3 days, and why the fuck is he carbing up on burgers? The point of carbing up is carbs not fat/protein, at that point the focus should be tons of carbs, minimal protein, needs to hook up with Chad Nichols get him on tons of dates, banana, and apple pie filling.


Plus, loads of sodium.
 Is this really helping him make top three?
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Simple Simon on July 16, 2017, 02:28:49 AM
Not impressive. The average fat woman eats more calories in a day and on a more frequent basis.

wrong, once fat you dont need a massive amount to stay fat.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Bevo on July 16, 2017, 04:04:14 AM
Juan Diesel, slamming food, it's actually comical, also funny to see Delarosa jump into the mix trying to hang with Juan lol. I would love to see this guy's bloodwork.



Not as impressive as this  ;D

This is a real athlete too haha

Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: falco on July 16, 2017, 04:06:47 AM
I wonder his insulin protocol that day.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: lilhawk1 on July 16, 2017, 04:31:20 AM
We're any babies harmed during the filming?  Guy is a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Twaddle on July 16, 2017, 05:01:21 AM
Baby killing, flat billed phaggot hat wearing, dipshit!   ::)
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Simple Simon on July 16, 2017, 11:04:19 AM
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/493/357/773.gif)
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Simple Simon on July 16, 2017, 11:07:38 AM
IRS need to find out how hes paying for all that food...
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: BB on July 16, 2017, 11:16:25 AM
For guests, and new folks reading, google "Juan Morel New Rochelle",  that will bring up the news articles.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Schnauzer on July 16, 2017, 11:19:56 AM
After he eats all that food he must sleep like a baby...
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: SF1900 on July 16, 2017, 11:37:30 AM
20k calories for 10th place at the O.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: OLKE_TEXAS on July 16, 2017, 01:49:40 PM
Disgusting baby killing POS he is!!!
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 16, 2017, 02:07:24 PM
Not as impressive as this  ;D

This is a real athlete too haha



matt stonie would destroy this wannabe
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Simple Simon on July 16, 2017, 02:21:24 PM
Matt is a lightweight compared to this girl
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on July 16, 2017, 02:24:46 PM
Matt is a lightweight compared to this girl


Not human lol
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 02:34:04 PM
Cheat days like this were common back in the day. Start at 11:59am Saturday and End at 12:00pm Sunday.
I actually used this concept when I lost 70+ pounds. The whole point was to just enjoy the flavor going in, because most of it would just become excrement anyway. Cheat days are more for mental health then anything. It just provides another goal to strive for as well.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 16, 2017, 04:01:14 PM
Matt is a lightweight compared to this girl


I don't know why she doesn't compete head to head with them.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Bevo on July 16, 2017, 05:08:07 PM
I don't know why she doesn't compete head to head with them.

Cause men are superior to women in any form of athletics and she will get killed head to head  :D

Question is is she really a women?  ;D
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: FREAKgeek on July 16, 2017, 05:35:10 PM
Cause men are superior to women in any form of athletics and she will get killed head to head  :D

Question is is she really a women?  ;D

she looks like a tranny but supposedly she has kids
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 05:37:58 PM
she looks like a tranny but supposedly she has kids
So does Bruce Jenner.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: calfzilla on July 16, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
What is it like to shit 22lbs of prime rib?  :-X
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2017, 06:03:10 PM
What is it like to shit 22lbs of prime rib?  :-X
There is no reason to bring Wiggs into this.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: ESFitness on July 16, 2017, 08:05:14 PM
I actually used this concept when I lost 70+ pounds. The whole point was to just enjoy the flavor going in, because most of it would just become excrement anyway. Cheat days are more for mental health then anything. It just provides another goal to strive for as well.


Wrong. Cheat days are used in order to prevent thyroid from downregulating. Dieting will cause decrease in the production as well as conversion from t4 to t3. Takes about 12-15 days though... Not every week
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: heenok on July 17, 2017, 02:48:04 AM
Your thyroid doesnt downregulate much the whole metabolism slowing down while dieting is pretty irrelevant, i guess it does slows down but not to the point you stop losing weight.
See the starvation experiment from the 40's they kept losing weight for the duration of the experiment (6 months) and all ended up like skeletons. They all got back to normal after.
Cheating is a mental relief and a training boost, the whole T3 thing is just rationalising it.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 17, 2017, 04:09:49 AM
Diabetes of peace.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: falco on July 17, 2017, 07:30:27 AM
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/493/357/773.gif)

läl.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: milone79 on July 17, 2017, 07:42:08 AM
This shit is even more ridiculous, check out his carb up prior to the Prague show, 3 days of McDonalds 8 times a day, dude must have eaten 75 plus burgers and fries throughout the coarse of the 3 days, and why the fuck is he carbing up on burgers? The point of carbing up is carbs not fat/protein, at that point the focus should be tons of carbs, minimal protein, needs to hook up with Chad Nichols get him on tons of dates, banana, and apple pie filling.



Proof that modern bodybuiding is ALL DRUGS!!!! Zero to do with nutrition or training properly!!!
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: ESFitness on July 17, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
Your thyroid doesnt downregulate much the whole metabolism slowing down while dieting is pretty irrelevant, i guess it does slows down but not to the point you stop losing weight.
See the starvation experiment from the 40's they kept losing weight for the duration of the experiment (6 months) and all ended up like skeletons. They all got back to normal after.
Cheating is a mental relief and a training boost, the whole T3 thing is just rationalising it.

Not rationalizing anything. I have cheat meals every 12 days for clients and every 14-16 days for myself when dieting because i have a faster metabolism.

I've had clients come to me who were just playing fucking fat and didn't know how to dye it and we're losing any weight and had been eating nothing but to fucking salads and half of a chicken wrap whatever the fuck that is per day it's still training doing cardio 4 or 5 days a week then all of a sudden throw in the cheat meal for them or and actually force them to eat more everyday and all of a sudden their body starts changing.. Finally. And they're amazed they're eating more and dropping bf and muscles start popping out (delts, traps, chest, triceps. Etc...).. Regular people that is. While theydnargued with me for weeks if not monthsnthat if they aTe more they'd get even fatter. Its especially evident with guys whondont have much of an appetite to begin with.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: residue on July 17, 2017, 01:52:06 PM
After he eats all that food he must sleep like a baby...
a shaken one
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on July 18, 2017, 03:36:52 AM
Proof that modern bodybuiding is ALL DRUGS!!!! Zero to do with nutrition or training properly!!!


Not true.

You even watch the video ? Juan said he rarely does these types of cheats anymore.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on July 18, 2017, 12:19:33 PM
Not rationalizing anything. I have cheat meals every 12 days for clients and every 14-16 days for myself when dieting because i have a faster metabolism.

I've had clients come to me who were just playing fucking fat and didn't know how to dye it and we're losing any weight and had been eating nothing but to fucking salads and half of a chicken wrap whatever the fuck that is per day it's still training doing cardio 4 or 5 days a week then all of a sudden throw in the cheat meal for them or and actually force them to eat more everyday and all of a sudden their body starts changing.. Finally. And they're amazed they're eating more and dropping bf and muscles start popping out (delts, traps, chest, triceps. Etc...).. Regular people that is. While theydnargued with me for weeks if not monthsnthat if they aTe more they'd get even fatter. Its especially evident with guys whondont have much of an appetite to begin with.
Why do you think that is? That you increased calories and their bodies improved cosmetically.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: WannaBePro on July 18, 2017, 12:32:13 PM
Not rationalizing anything. I have cheat meals every 12 days for clients and every 14-16 days for myself when dieting because i have a faster metabolism.

I've had clients come to me who were just playing fucking fat and didn't know how to dye it and we're losing any weight and had been eating nothing but to fucking salads and half of a chicken wrap whatever the fuck that is per day it's still training doing cardio 4 or 5 days a week then all of a sudden throw in the cheat meal for them or and actually force them to eat more everyday and all of a sudden their body starts changing.. Finally. And they're amazed they're eating more and dropping bf and muscles start popping out (delts, traps, chest, triceps. Etc...).. Regular people that is. While theydnargued with me for weeks if not monthsnthat if they aTe more they'd get even fatter. Its especially evident with guys whondont have much of an appetite to begin with.

Spot on. When I dieted for both shows I did, and last year just to lean out for the summer, I would go without cheats for about 6 weeks, then have my first cheat day and completely change from being flat to full and striated. After that, I would have a cheat meal once a week (skipload style).
I also coached a few girls for bikini and figure and had the same thing happen with them. One girl who's a close friend of mine came to me because she was gaining weight without changing diet or training. I told her to eat a burger and fries, she refused, so we settled on lean ground beef and white rice. The next day she was down 2lbs and no bloat. I'm certain this has something to do with hormones. Whether thyroid or estrogen or both (most likely both for women).
An influx in calories definitely stimulates the thyroid, cortisol, and probably a whole bunch of others (I'm not a doctor, so I can only assume).
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2017, 12:33:56 PM
Spot on. When I dieted for both shows I did, and last year just to lean out for the summer, I would go without cheats for about 6 weeks, then have my first cheat day and completely change from being flat to full and striated. After that, I would have a cheat meal once a week (skipload style).
I also coached a few girls for bikini and figure and had the same thing happen with them. One girl who's a close friend of mine came to me because she was gaining weight without changing diet or training. I told her to eat a burger and fries, she refused, so we settled on lean ground beef and white rice. The next day she was down 2lbs and no bloat. I'm certain this has something to do with hormones. Whether thyroid or estrogen or both (most likely both for women).
An influx in calories definitely stimulates the thyroid, cortisol, and probably a whole bunch of others (I'm not a doctor, so I can only assume).

its called carbing up...
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: WannaBePro on July 18, 2017, 12:35:26 PM
its called carbing up...

I know... I'm just saying that it's gotta be hormonal (as well as acting on pulling water into the muscle, which is what a carb-up is supposed to do).
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: ChevChelios on July 18, 2017, 12:40:44 PM
Does this work the same when using 100 t3 daily and some ephedrine on top of that ?
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2017, 12:41:12 PM
I know... I'm just saying that it's gotta be hormonal (as well as acting on pulling water into the muscle, which is what a carb-up is supposed to do).
its also the sodium in the food you eat on carb days that allow the muscle to hold all the water and tighten you up.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: ESFitness on July 18, 2017, 01:13:17 PM
Spot on. When I dieted for both shows I did, and last year just to lean out for the summer, I would go without cheats for about 6 weeks, then have my first cheat day and completely change from being flat to full and striated. After that, I would have a cheat meal once a week (skipload style).
I also coached a few girls for bikini and figure and had the same thing happen with them. One girl who's a close friend of mine came to me because she was gaining weight without changing diet or training. I told her to eat a burger and fries, she refused, so we settled on lean ground beef and white rice. The next day she was down 2lbs and no bloat. I'm certain this has something to do with hormones. Whether thyroid or estrogen or both (most likely both for women).
An influx in calories definitely stimulates the thyroid, cortisol, and probably a whole bunch of others (I'm not a doctor, so I can only assume).

Carbs bring in 10x their weight in water into the muscle. (Figure 1grams of glucose goes into muscle, then pulls 10grams of water along with) So zero carbs means no carbs to pull and hold water in muscles. Which is why with me personally if I don't eat carbs at all for 3 days, ill drop 15-18lbs. I normally eat 500-700+g carbs per day so cutting carbs causes a huge response.... Then reintroducing carbs along with water, the muscle "reinflates" and holds onto everything that comes in.

I remember "skiploading" back in 2002 and him being one of the first guys to talk about the "fat pump" from carbing up with fatty carbs.. Pizza burgers etc... Andnthen Kamali co-signing the practice/theory.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Simple Simon on July 18, 2017, 01:19:48 PM
Carbs bring in 10x their weight in water into the muscle. (Figure 1grams of glucose goes into muscle, then pulls 10grams of water along with) So zero carbs means no carbs to pull and hold water in muscles. Which is why with me personally if I don't eat carbs at all for 3 days, ill drop 15-18lbs. I normally eat 500-700+g carbs per day so cutting carbs causes a huge response.... Then reintroducing carbs along with water, the muscle "reinflates" and holds onto everything that comes in.

I remember "skiploading" back in 2002 and him being one of the first guys to talk about the "fat pump" from carbing up with fatty carbs.. Pizza burgers etc... Andnthen Kamali co-signing the practice/theory.

Jamie Eason says different
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Did u know that for every 1 g of carbs you consume, your body holds roughly 3 g of water & that breaking down 1 lb into grams is about 454 g? So, if someone consumes, say 200 g of carbs a day, that's about 600 g of water, which can explain the nearly 2 lbs of water weight you gain by the end of the day. This is why low carb diets were popular for a while but don't obsess! Complex carbs provide energy & brain food!!

She is an experienced personal trainer and fitness competitor, Im sure she knows best...
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: ESFitness on July 18, 2017, 01:51:36 PM
Jamie Eason says different
She is an experienced personal trainer and fitness competitor, Im sure she knows best...

Using that math would mean I should be eating 900g carbs everyday, if not more, since i drop 18lbs of water in 3 days.

Idiot. Keep trolling.

"She's an experienced personal trainer.." hahaha... While ive been others and earning a living doing since before she ever picked up a copy of Muscle&Fitness Hers and decided to take a spin class.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: balzac on January 01, 2020, 11:42:03 AM
diabetes of peace...

Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Twaddle on January 01, 2020, 11:52:17 AM
A calorie is not a calorie!

This is exactly why bodybuilders today, look like shit.  For some reason, they think eating 20k calories of junk food is the secret.   ???
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on January 01, 2020, 02:10:20 PM
A calorie is not a calorie!

This is exactly why bodybuilders today, look like shit.  For some reason, they think eating 20k calories of junk food is the secret.   ???

A calorie, by definition, is a calorie. Go check the definition.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on January 01, 2020, 02:10:57 PM
I’ve seen him eat in person several times. A huge glutton.
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Twaddle on January 01, 2020, 07:16:35 PM
A calorie, by definition, is a calorie. Go check the definition.

Don't be so literal.  You know what I mean.  20K calories, composed mostly of sugar and flour, is not the same as 20k calories of clean food. 
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 02, 2020, 01:56:40 AM
I actually used this concept when I lost 70+ pounds. The whole point was to just enjoy the flavor going in, because most of it would just become excrement anyway. Cheat days are more for mental health then anything. It just provides another goal to strive for as well.


Anyone taking Shiz-Val's advices on dieting here?? After-all, an epic physique like his only comes after a lifetime of training and eating correctly.  :P
Title: Re: Juan Morel new cheat day vid 20k plus calories
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 02, 2020, 03:08:00 AM
The shit this guy can put away is ridiculous..... 3 days of burgers as a contest load!

Them arteries be copping it hard