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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Irongrip400 on June 26, 2018, 09:50:03 AM
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Don't even have a problem with the cost. I see it as an investment into the future.
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Who cares about the cost since Mexico is going to be the one paying for it
All I want is for Trump to make Mexico pay for it just like he said he would
Not reimburse us for it but PAY for it
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So neither of you care as far as the humanitarian part goes. I wonder what the split is on those who don't want it cost/humanitarian, 50/50?
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So neither of you care as far as the humanitarian part goes. I wonder what the split is on those who don't want it cost/humanitarian, 50/50?
Humanitarian? I'm still trying to understand why anyone would be against securing our border and do those same people leave their cars, houses, places of business unsecured? I think some of these people are indifferent because they aren't taking the money directly out of their pocket to pay for the cost of illegal immigrants. It's all hidden as "taxes". ::)
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Without a travel ban it's useless, these days the majority of illegals come here legally and just overstay their visa
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So neither of you care as far as the humanitarian part goes. I wonder what the split is on those who don't want it cost/humanitarian, 50/50?
what's the humanitarian part
Do you mean stealing US citizens land to build a worthless wall?
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what's the humanitarian part
Do you mean stealing US citizens land to build a worthless wall?
If the US government wanted to Wall Off Mexico/Mexicans from freely wandering onto my property, I wouldn't care. :D
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Not reimburse us for it but PAY for it
Talk about splitting hairs.
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what's the humanitarian part
Do you mean stealing US citizens land to build a worthless wall?
Humanitarian, as in they're refugees from shitty countries and face persecution so we should just let them all in.
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-Seems it won't cover the entire Mexican - U.S. boarder if and when it is built. If I build a fence around three sides of my property, it won't keep my dogs in or other dogs out. A more comphrehensive boarder patrol might cost less and be more effective a curbing illegal immigration than a partcial wall.
A bigger issue is illegal drugs coming into the U.S. I believe the wall will do almost nothing to stop that from happening.
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Talk about splitting hairs.
LOL - you call that splitting hairs
if you think it's basically the same thing then there should be no problem with Mexico just paying for it upfront
or maybe you can understand it this way
Go find the hottest chick who will go out with you and tell her you're going to treat her to dinner at her favorite restaurant.
When the bill arrives you ask her to pay and you'll maybe reimburse her at some time in the future
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-Seems it won't cover the entire Mexican - U.S. boarder if and when it is built. If I build a fence around three sides of my property, it won't keep my dogs in or other dogs out. A more comphrehensive boarder patrol might cost less and be more effective a curbing illegal immigration than a partcial wall.
A bigger issue is illegal drugs coming into the U.S. I believe the wall will do almost nothing to stop that from happening.
So you think that instead of building a wall, the Border Patrol needs to be expanded or be more comprehensive in its activities?
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Humanitarian, as in they're refugees from shitty countries and face persecution so we should just let them all in.
I assume you're aware that people can actually legally enter this country and request asylum
The US government explains it here:
https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states
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If the US government wanted to Wall Off Mexico/Mexicans from freely wandering onto my property, I wouldn't care. :D
pay attention dipshit
If they take your property then it's no longer "your property"
you'll need to relocate somewhere else and stay the fuck off what is now government property
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pay attention dipshit
If they take your property then it's no longer "your property"
you'll need to relocate somewhere else and stay the fuck off what is now government property
So they will pay me for a small portion of my property AND build a wall to keep the shithole citizens and drug runners off the rest of my property? WINNING
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Soon you'll be bitching about the environmental impact the wall will have on a specific species of lizards
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So they will pay me for a small portion of my property AND build a wall to keep the shithole citizens and drug runners off the rest of my property? WINNING
and what if they want more than a small portion
or maybe you don't want to sell any part of it
then what ?
https://www.revealnews.org/article/this-land-is-our-land-many-property-owners-wont-sell-for-trumps-wall/
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-Seems it won't cover the entire Mexican - U.S. boarder if and when it is built. If I build a fence around three sides of my property, it won't keep my dogs in or other dogs out. A more comphrehensive boarder patrol might cost less and be more effective a curbing illegal immigration than a partcial wall.
A bigger issue is illegal drugs coming into the U.S. I believe the wall will do almost nothing to stop that from happening.
You liken illegal immigrants to dogs?
We should be using money confiscated from drug traffickers to help fund our border security.
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and what if they want more than a small portion
or maybe you don't want to sell any part of it
then what ?
https://www.revealnews.org/article/this-land-is-our-land-many-property-owners-wont-sell-for-trumps-wall/
What if, what if, what if... What if fucking trash stops coming across the border?
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What if, what if, what if... What if fucking trash stops coming across the border?
the wall won't stop them (and of course it will never get built)
speaking of "what if"
what if the government wanted some of Trumps land
I'm sure President Snowflake would tweet something like this
So unfair
No one has ever been treated so unfairly in the history of the world
everyone agrees with that
SAD
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So neither of you care as far as the humanitarian part goes. I wonder what the split is on those who don't want it cost/humanitarian, 50/50?
I don’t have a problem with it whatsoever.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/07/widow-slams-two-year-sentence-illegal-immigrant-who-killed-husband-two-children
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No, but I have not been able to get a liberal to talk about precisely whether we should have borders and how they should be protected.
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the wall won't stop them (and of course it will never get built)
speaking of "what if"
what if the government wanted some of Trumps land
I'm sure President Snowflake would tweet something like this
So unfair
No one has ever been treated so unfairly in the history of the world
everyone agrees with that
SAD
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I have a problem with it, in that it could only claim our monumental failure as a society. With an actual monument.
It would be nothing more than a giant statue representing America's defeat at the hands of corporate interest.
Trump claimed he'd make "the best deals" for the American people. Yet one of the very best money-making opportunities, ever, still waits to be seized -- along with the assets of those who perform illegal business. Several entrenched problems handled at once, with all incentive to jump our border removed with them.
He, of all people, knows this as fact.
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I have a problem with it, in that it could only claim our monumental failure as a society. With an actual monument.
It would be nothing more than a giant statue representing America's defeat at the hands of corporate interest.
Trump claimed he'd make "the best deals" for the American people. Yet one of the very best money-making opportunities, ever, still waits to be seized -- along with the assets of those who perform illegal business. Several entrenched problems handled at once, with all incentive to jump our border removed with them.
He, of all people, knows this as fact.
I don't know if legalizing drugs is the answer, unless you're talking about weed. I believe it should be legalized and regulated just like booze, and this coming from someone who doesn't smoke it and probably wouldn't even if it was legal.
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I don't know if legalizing drugs is the answer, unless you're talking about weed. I believe it should be legalized and regulated just like booze, and this coming from someone who doesn't smoke it and probably wouldn't even if it was legal.
No, I mean those profiting from illegal work.
But you make a good point on the other issue, too. Though Trump could easily find a way to talk around any proposal involving drugs.
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Bottom line, Trump's acting just like any other Bitch for the Rich. Trump = Obama = Clinton = Scum
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LOL - you call that splitting hairs
if you think it's basically the same thing then there should be no problem with Mexico just paying for it upfront
or maybe you can understand it this way
Go find the hottest chick who will go out with you and tell her you're going to treat her to dinner at her favorite restaurant.
When the bill arrives you ask her to pay and you'll maybe reimburse her at some time in the future
It's just wordplay on your part. Whether they "want" to pay is not relevant. How they pay is not relevant. THAT they pay and THAT the wall is BUILT - IS relevant.
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and what if they want more than a small portion
or maybe you don't want to sell any part of it
then what ?
https://www.revealnews.org/article/this-land-is-our-land-many-property-owners-wont-sell-for-trumps-wall/
It's called Eminent Domain. It's how the national highway system was built in the USA, which was FAR more impactful to landownership. Eisenhower's vision seemed to work out okay on this. HTH