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MID ENGINED! TWIN TURBO V8!
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Looks like shit! Who would drive that?
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Looks like shit! Who would drive that?
any nignog rapper
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Looks like an Acura NSX.
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Why does it look like someone smeared poop all over it? ??? ??? ???
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I have C6 vette.. LS3..
I passed on getting a C7..
I like the longer frame..
Hopefully the engine bay is visible..
I heard it's going to be over $100,000.00
Will probably have to wait a couple years in order to get one..
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These American car companies can’t even stay afloat and they produce shit like these ;D
GM really has thier priorities in the gutter, plant closings, worker lay offs
Who’s their ceo again? Some women haha
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I have C6 vette.. LS3..
I passed on getting a C7..
I like the longer frame..
Hopefully the engine bay is visible..
I heard it's going to be over $100,000.00
Will probably have to wait a couple years in order to get one..
C6 very nice .
What’s it like driving & handling ?
Can be used as a daily driver ?
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Groovy looking.
Not a fan of the paint job.
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its a fucking camo paint/wrap car manufacturers use for works in progress during testing you idiots. ::)
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its a fucking camo paint/wrap car manufacturers use for works in progress during testing you idiots. ::)
Why not show a pic without it then?
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Why not show a pic without it then?
the "leaks" ruin the official release and besides most of these are pre production prototypes.
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its a fucking camo paint/wrap car manufacturers use for works in progress during testing you idiots. ::)
Tone it down, tough guy.
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C6 very nice .
What’s it like driving & handling ?
Can be used as a daily driver ?
Handles great..
I use it daily..
Very low maintenance cost for a sports cars..
I Spend about $400 or so a year on maintenance..
Oil change, transmission / radiator flush , fuel injection system clean..I rotate the maintenance with the exception of the oil change which is about $75 for synthetic oil.. This is at the dealership..
That's about it..
My car is a 2009.. Replaced the tires twice already.. Run flats pilot sport about $1,100 for all four at cost co..
On my bucket list is a used Ferrari..
Hopefully either a Modena or a California..
Under $80,000.00,
Paid $53,000 for my vette when I bought it 2009..
Well below market value..
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vettes are bad ass machines but for me they still the baby boomer stigma i see daily in scottsdale
me? id rather buy a nifty saleen, roush or gt500 over a vette
or at $100k
get used a f430
my 2 cents
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Handles great..
I use it daily..
Very low maintenance cost for a sports cars..
I Spend about $400 or so a year on maintenance..
Oil change, transmission / radiator flush , fuel injection system clean..I rotate the maintenance with the exception of the oil change which is about $75 for synthetic oil.. This is at the dealership..
That's about it..
My car is a 2009.. Replaced the tires twice already.. Run flats pilot sport about $1,100 for all four at cost co..
On my bucket list is a used Ferrari..
Hopefully either a Modena or a California..
Under $80,000.00,
Paid $53,000 for my vette when I bought it 2009..
Well below market value..
Sounds a great car.
I’m just slightly envious ;)
Next one on your list also very nice.
Enjoy.
Which you clearly do.
👍🏻
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If all getbiggers came together and pooled in our money, we can buy one and share it.
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vettes are bad ass machines but for me they still the baby boomer stigma i see daily in scottsdale
me? id rather buy a nifty saleen, roush or gt500 over a vette
or at $100k
get used a f430
my 2 cents
F430 are very nice..
My dream car is a Ferrari 485 Italia..
But the car is still over $200,000..
They haven't depreciated that much..
Being looking at the Ferrari California..
Around my price range and a very dependable from what I've read.. Especially if you buy 2012 or newer..
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F430 are very nice..
My dream car is a Ferrari 485 Italia..
But the car is still over $200,000..
They haven't depreciated that much..
Being looking at the Ferrari California..
Around my price range and a very dependable from what I've read.. Especially if you 2012 or newer..
get an F430 over California if you are a sports car guy. use the f430 as a weekend toy. the california is a true ferrari daily driver.
you can find a 2005-2007 F430 for $90k these days. hell the same price as a high end bmw or mercedes. for me an F430 is a lifetime bucket list for me. not that far out of reach either.
the F430 with a standard 6 speed are rare and 2x as expensive as the F1 gearbox.... its the last 3 peddle car ferrari made -
you only live once -
$109k
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=503723243&zip=85140&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D85140%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DF430%26makeCodeList%3DFER%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=F430&makeCodeList=FER&searchRadius=0&clickType=spotlight
just finance the bitch and own it for 1 year and then sell it after you had your honey moon
as a sports car owner - cars have honey moons.
i sold my roush stage 2 and we had our fun - it was time she went. I miss that baby
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my baby (for sale add) started at $5k first bidder - went to the ebay route -
old ad
https://mycarboard.com/product/great-2015-ford-mustang-gt-premium-roush-stage-2-2015-mustang-gt-premium-roush-stage-2-5l-v8-manual-convertible-leather-arizona-2017-2018/
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my baby (for sale add) started at $5k first bidder - went to the ebay route -
old ad
https://mycarboard.com/product/great-2015-ford-mustang-gt-premium-roush-stage-2-2015-mustang-gt-premium-roush-stage-2-5l-v8-manual-convertible-leather-arizona-2017-2018/
Wow.. Very nice :o
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get an F430 over California if you are a sports car guy. use the f430 as a weekend toy. the california is a true ferrari daily driver.
you can find a 2005-2007 F430 for $90k these days. hell the same price as a high end bmw or mercedes. for me an F430 is a lifetime bucket list for me. not that far out of reach either.
the F430 with a standard 6 speed are rare and 2x as expensive as the F1 gearbox.... its the last 3 peddle car ferrari made -
you only live once -
$109k
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=503723243&zip=85140&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D85140%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DF430%26makeCodeList%3DFER%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=F430&makeCodeList=FER&searchRadius=0&clickType=spotlight
just finance the bitch and own it for 1 year and then sell it after you had your honey moon
as a sports car owner - cars have honey moons.
i sold my roush stage 2 and we had our fun - it was time she went. I miss that baby
I agree..
Thanks for the info..
I'm probably going to pull the trigger and get
A Ferrari in 2020...
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vettes are bad ass machines but for me they still the baby boomer stigma i see daily in scottsdale
me? id rather buy a nifty saleen, roush or gt500 over a vette
or at $100k
get used a f430
my 2 cents
A used f430 is a piece of shit and not worth the maintenance, the only 430 to get is a scuderia
Only poor folks make stupid comparisons like this
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A used f430 is a piece of shit and not worth the maintenance, the only 430 to get is a scuderia
Only poor folks make stupid comparisons like this
just ive always wanted a 348, 355, 360 or a F430.... they have that look. the f430 is much more modern.
if i found a low mile red 360 modena also a lifetime bucket list.
all ferraris have tons of maint. its part of the game. again its a one year own for me - bucket list to own a red mid engine ferrari.
only live once!
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Big fan of the C7 and especially Z06 which is the sweet spot for price to performance IMO.
Not excited about mid engined C8 if plan is to market & price it in similar manner to a European supercar.
The Corvette is uniquely American and has punched above its weight for the price for a very long time . Sure, some of the interiors have sucked...but the C7 is a nice step in right direction inside.
I have read there is a possibility of two different C8 models, with a lesser priced front engined V8
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just ive always wanted a 348, 355, 360 or a F430.... they have that look. the f430 is much more modern.
if i found a low mile red 360 modena also a lifetime bucket list.
all ferraris have tons of maint. its part of the game. again its a one year own for me - bucket list to own a red mid engine ferrari.
only live once!
Exactly
And the ones that are trying to “own” these aren’t wealthy or even rich, they are posers just so they can have a “Ferrari” ::)
If you are going to own a Ferrari, get the special editions that increase in price, investments
360 challenge
430 scuderia
458 speciale
488 pista
Not a run of the mill shit version just so you can brag to your hood friends “i got a Ferrari”
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I have C6 vette.. LS3..
I passed on getting a C7..
I like the longer frame..
Hopefully the engine bay is visible..
I heard it's going to be over $100,000.00
Will probably have to wait a couple years in order to get one..
5000 dollars more than C7 it will be. I know this from a GM Engineer working on it.
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i'm too big to fit in a Ferrari so i'll pass
actually I'm too big for most cars
did i mention i was really big?
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Big fan of the C7 and especially Z06 which is the sweet spot for price to performance IMO.
Not excited about mid engined C8 if plan is to market & price it in similar manner to a European supercar.
The Corvette is uniquely American and has punched above its weight for the price for a very long time . Sure, some of the interiors have sucked...but the C7 is a nice step in right direction inside.
I have read there is a possibility of two different C8 models, with a lesser priced front engined V8
The chief engineer said they had gone as far as they could with the front engined rear wheel drive layout. If they wanted to progress any further they had to go Mid engined. I'm not a Corvette purist so the mid engined layout seems more exotic and Italian. I think the Corvette enthusiasts will accept this change.
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its a fucking camo paint/wrap car manufacturers use for works in progress during testing you idiots. ::)
phew, thsnks for letting us know this!
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my baby (for sale add) started at $5k first bidder - went to the ebay route -
old ad
https://mycarboard.com/product/great-2015-ford-mustang-gt-premium-roush-stage-2-2015-mustang-gt-premium-roush-stage-2-5l-v8-manual-convertible-leather-arizona-2017-2018/
What did it sell for?
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The chief engineer said they had gone as far as they could with the front engined rear wheel drive layout. If they wanted to progress any further they had to go Mid engined. I'm not a Corvette purist so the mid engined layout seems more exotic and Italian. I think the Corvette enthusiasts will accept this change.
It’s not just about exotic or being Italian, it’s about balance and traction. Mid engine lay out is the ultimate sports cars
Even Porsche does this and knows this
Carrara GT, 918, cayman, ruf ctr3
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The chief engineer said they had gone as far as they could with the front engined rear wheel drive layout. If they wanted to progress any further they had to go Mid engined. I'm not a Corvette purist so the mid engined layout seems more exotic and Italian. I think the Corvette enthusiasts will accept this change.
They have been floating mid-engine since the 1959-60s.
https://jalopnik.com/there-was-an-almost-forgotten-mid-engine-corvette-back-1825238888
They also have NOT gone as far as they can with Front Engine. Front Engine will remain and will be available down the road.
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Looks like a kit car
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Around the world sports cars are a shrinking segment. Maybe GM sees it as a sort of Halo car.
Will they ever make money with it?
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GM is a joke.
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It’s not just about exotic or being Italian, it’s about balance and traction. Mid engine lay out is the ultimate sports cars
Even Porsche does this and knows this
Carrara GT, 918, cayman, ruf ctr3
I see. So what you're saying is the 911 is inferior because it has a rear engine layout and not mid engine.
I kid.
Preaching to the choir on weight distribution and why a mid engine layout is best for sports cars.
I had a friend who went to the Chevrolet dealer and tried to explain to the sales man that no Chevy is worth $120,000 when he saw the sticker on the ZR1. I really believe they're trying to make the car more exotic and super car like to justify the enormous price.
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Here's what the twin turbo 5.5-liter 32 valved V8 sounds like.
As Borat would say, very nice!
Best Bang for the buck by a country mile.
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Take your date out with it Saturday night. Drive her home Sunday morning. Drive it to the track Sunday afternoon. Drop it off at the local Chevy dealer for service Monday.
Take note Ford and Chrysler. This is how you do it. I'm looking at you Viper.
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2020 Corvette C8 Rumored To Make Surprise Debut On January 14
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-corvette-c8-rumored-make-surprise-debut-january-14/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2020-corvette-c8-rumored-make-surprise-debut-january-14/)
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Here's what the twin turbo 5.5-liter 32 valved V8 sounds like.
As Borat would say, very nice!
Best Bang for the buck by a country mile.
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Take your date out with it Saturday night. Drive her home Sunday morning. Drive it to the track Sunday afternoon. Drop it off at the local Chevy dealer for service Monday.
Take note Ford and Chrysler. This is how you do it. I'm looking at you Viper.
Prob overheat and break down before all that happens ;D
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Exactly
And the ones that are trying to “own” these aren’t wealthy or even rich, they are posers just so they can have a “Ferrari” ::)
If you are going to own a Ferrari, get the special editions that increase in price, investments
360 challenge
430 scuderia
458 speciale
488 pista
Not a run of the mill shit version just so you can brag to your hood friends “i got a Ferrari”
lol i am not Dubai India Rich - so i will not be buying a 550 Barchetta or other low production ferrari
its a bucket list for me - plus I live in very wealthy area - Ferrari Scottsdale is 5 minutes from my place so there are 458s and 488s around town quite often
I am not wealthy - just upper middle class with little expenses and no children or wife)
red 360 is not a look at me car anymore. it is far from that.
I love sports cars and the ferrari is the ideal dream car for me. I want a red Mid engine ferrari convertible
if i wanted to go status - it would be a Bentley GT coupe (but those dont interest me)
cars that interest me (All sports cars I have followed for years and now are getting within budget for me)
2006 Maserati Gran Sport
2008 Porsche twin Turbo convertible
2005-2007 ferrari f430
2001-2004 ferrari 360
and of course any Roush or Saleen mustang, but I will not buy another mustang till they totally revamp the line up 100%.
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What did it sell for?
a tad under $30k
it was a 2015 Roush stage 2 convertible with a 6 speed manual. red/black all options. the MSRP was around $54k.
it had around 22k miles on it. just 1 scratch - i was the second owner
stage 2 is a v8 with some add ons. no supercharger. it was around 450-475 HP I am guessing
stage 3 has a supercharger, i didnt want a supercharger since it way to much power. i hadf a saleen extreme (650HP 600lbs of torque) with a 4:10 rear end it was waaaay to much for me.
the roush stage 2 - red convertible was a dream car for me. i love it. again sports cars have honey moons which is usually 6-18 months. its fucking true. people hate to admit it
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mine was #36 - they number all saleens
this one has a tune - but the saleen extreme (typically they made around 100 to 150 per year)
the car sounded a fucking helicopter
please watch this video - listen to it. again nothing sounds like a nice Mustang V8 then allow Saleeen to do a tune hello :)
i know the demon and hellcats are out there but the saleen was a true california show stopper. you felt like a fucking bully in the car.
it was crazy how powerful it was with a 4:10 rear end - you could over take about anyone and plus they look so damn smooth.
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Exactly
And the ones that are trying to “own” these aren’t wealthy or even rich, they are posers just so they can have a “Ferrari” ::)
If you are going to own a Ferrari, get the special editions that increase in price, investments
360 challenge
430 scuderia
458 speciale
488 pista
Not a run of the mill shit version just so you can brag to your hood friends “i got a Ferrari”
Chris Harris’ new vid on the Ferrari Pista
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My thoughts on the Corvette Zora. That the rear wing will make or break the car. The C8.R sounds great.
Mustang GT500 might be the surprise of the year, in terms of performance cars.
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Corvette ZR1 can’t put the power down like the GT2 RS, no Ring Times, etc.And now you have YouTube influencers like Superspeed 717 selling his ZR1 because he’s bored with it, and that he raves about his McLaren 720s.
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Chris Harris’ new vid on the Ferrari Pista
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My thoughts on the Corvette Zora. That the rear wing will make or break the car. The C8.R sounds great.
Mustang GT500 might be the surprise of the year, in terms of performance cars.
The 720 is faster than advertised, I’ve worked on a few customer cars, it’s VERY fast
The zr1 got beat by a NA 6 cylinder gt3 RS in the ring haha
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I had a friend who went to the Chevrolet dealer and tried to explain to the sales man that no Chevy is worth $120,000 when he saw the sticker on the ZR1. I really believe they're trying to make the car more exotic and super car like to justify the enormous price.
GM faces an uphill battle when their vehicles start getting $80K plus.
The perception of GM makes some of the pricing tough to take based on the brand’s heritage.
The CTS-V had topped the M5’s performance, yet it was short lived and didn’t meet sales expectations . At a certain price point, the prestige of a vehicle is a major factor aside from outright performance . A $100K+ C8 is a big leap from new C7 coupes which can be had nicely equipped for $65k.
To make matters worse, the typical $100K vehicle shopper has certain dealership expectations that few GM stores are able to provide. This will work against a supercar Corvette as a viable option to a $100k Porsche, AMG, M series, etc...
If the cost of entry for the C8 is 100K, GM will end up ruining their niche. They have to have plans for a separate front engined “C7.5” that they will introduce in addition to the mid engined version. Too much volume would be lost due to exclusionary pricing. They have a proven formula and gobs of R&D in front engined / pushrod V8 platforms.
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GM faces an uphill battle when their vehicles start getting $80K plus.
The perception of GM makes some of the pricing tough to take based on the brand’s heritage.
The CTS-V had topped the M5’s performance, yet it was short lived and didn’t meet sales expectations . At a certain price point, the prestige of a vehicle is a major factor aside from outright performance . A $100K+ C8 is a big leap from new C7 coupes which can be had nicely equipped for $65k.
To make matters worse, the typical $100K vehicle shopper has certain dealership expectations that few GM stores are able to provide.
This.
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If it doesn't look like a 'vette, it ain't a vette. If it looks like some MR2 had revenge sex with a Cagiva Allazura or worse yet, some ghetto'd out Caddimalac, well then FTN.
As far as price is concerned, yes there is a certain cachet associated with the higher end of fine automobiles and the Corvette has never really occupied that space because it has always been first and foremost THE American Muscle car. A reachable goal for young American men.
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If it doesn't look like a 'vette, it ain't a vette. If it looks like some MR2 had revenge sex with a Cagiva Allazura or worse yet, some ghetto'd out Caddimalac, well then FTN.
As far as price is concerned, yes there is a certain cachet associated with the higher end of fine automobiles and the Corvette has never really occupied that space because it has always been first and foremost THE American Muscle car. A reachable goal for young American men.
In 1960. We live in a global world now.
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In 1960. We live in a global world now.
True, sir.
Alas that it's more of a "snow-globe" given the flakes that seem to be everywhere. ;D I know Ford weirded up the Mustang to appeal to those outside Amurica. I don't like the body of the current version of that one at all. Not even the convertible.
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If it doesn't look like a 'vette, it ain't a vette. If it looks like some MR2 had revenge sex with a Cagiva Allazura or worse yet, some ghetto'd out Caddimalac, well then FTN.
As far as price is concerned, yes there is a certain cachet associated with the higher end of fine automobiles and the Corvette has never really occupied that space because it has always been first and foremost THE American Muscle car. A reachable goal for young American men.
Zora Arkus-Duntov, who basically was the father of the Corvette had wanted a mid engine Vette since the 60s. The first mid engined corvette concept was the Cerv II in 1964.
The Corvette was America’s SPORTS Car, not a muscle car. And in fact, the Thunderbird had stolen the Corvette’s thunder during SCCA races in the 50s.
https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-news/entertainment/the-9-mid-engine-corvette-concepts-chevrolet-almost-built (https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-news/entertainment/the-9-mid-engine-corvette-concepts-chevrolet-almost-built)
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Zora Arkus-Duntov, who basically was the father of the Corvette had wanted a mid engine Vette since the 60s. The first mid engined corvette concept was the Cerv II in 1964.
The Corvette was America’s SPORTS Car, not a muscle car. And in fact, the Thunderbird had stolen the Corvette’s thunder during SCCA races in the 50s.
https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-news/entertainment/the-9-mid-engine-corvette-concepts-chevrolet-almost-built (https://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-news/entertainment/the-9-mid-engine-corvette-concepts-chevrolet-almost-built)
I am aware of that but I also know we called it the sweetest muscle car around in the 60s. Yeah...It is a "sports" car but for us that didn't sound nearly as bitchin' as "muscle car". The T-Bird got neutered by Ford. I've heard they (Ford) are thinking about doing a 4-door 'stang. FTN.
As a semi-related aside, my dad had a Corvair. The only car designed to look like an electric razor. We went to Disneyland a few times in it back in the 60s.
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Legit website..
$3 raffle..
https://www.dreamgiveaway.com (https://www.dreamgiveaway.com)
Corvette giveaway ended already..
They raffle 2 vettes every year..
But there are other raffles going on right now.
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I am aware of that but I also know we called it the sweetest muscle car around in the 60s. Yeah...It is a "sports" car but for us that didn't sound nearly as bitchin' as "muscle car". The T-Bird got neutered by Ford. I've heard they (Ford) are thinking about doing a 4-door 'stang. FTN.
As a semi-related aside, my dad had a Corvair. The only car designed to look like an electric razor. We went to Disneyland a few times in it back in the 60s.
The Corvair Monza was a great looking car. America’s Porsche 911 (rear engine, flat 6). Ralph Nader killed it.
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Corvette ZR1 can’t put the power down like the GT2 RS, no Ring Times, etc.And now you have YouTube influencers like Superspeed 717 selling his ZR1 because he’s bored with it, and that he raves about his McLaren 720s.
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ROFLAMO-GT2 RS 300 grand.
What happens when you put 170,000 dollars into a new ZR1 to equal the price?
ZR1 vs GT2RS stock for stock is a drivers race anyways, but alas, the Porsche will break and the service is a joke.
Corvette for the win hands down in all areas.
This is America. German cars are for immigrants.
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ROFLAMO-GT2 RS 300 grand.
What happens when you put 170,000 dollars into a new ZR1 to equal the price?
ZR1 vs GT2RS stock for stock is a drivers race anyways, but alas, the Porsche will break and the service is a joke.
Corvette for the win hands down in all areas.
This is America. German cars are for immigrants.
Doesn’t work that way, you of all people should know this.
While Porsche is having breaking sales, GM is going through ceos starting with caddy, the world doesn’t see American cars as profitable or desirable, this isn’t the 40’s, 50’s or 60’s anymore
Yes, that’s why your beloved American car companies are next to being extinct soon
Zr1 got beat by a “lowly” gt3rs not a gt2
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The 720 is faster than advertised, I’ve worked on a few customer cars, it’s VERY fast
The zr1 got beat by a NA 6 cylinder gt3 RS in the ring haha
There is a 720S near me, looks like an alien space craft.
I think that the ZR1 has too much torque to put down. If the bean counters would have allowed it, I think far more extensive use of carbon fiber, plus a DCT, and better electronics could have helped the ZR1. But, then it might upstage the base C8. The C7 ZR1 is like the F12/812’s little American brother who got into his Italian brother’s steroid stack, starting squatting, and now is too leg dominant.
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The Corvair Monza was a great looking car. America’s Porsche 911 (rear engine, flat 6). Ralph Nader killed it.
Yup.
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the C5 saved the corvette (maybe 2001) it was a radical clean fresh design -
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Very true. The C4 was lackluster and don’t get me started on the Starsky & Hutch C3 era.
Another possibility with mid engined C8 model is a run of mid-engine cars that lasts for a few years only and would help command the price premium.
GM has done this in the past with original 1990 ZR-1 with Mercury Marine built 32 valve DOHC V8 instead of traditional pushrod SBC. That was a HUGE change, commanded a very large price premium and ended in 5 years. The 90-95 ZR-1 models still have collectibility value today.
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Very true. The C4 was lackluster and don’t get me started on the Starsky & Hutch C3 era.
Another possibility with mid engined C8 model is a run of mid-engine cars that lasts for a few years only and would help command the price premium.
GM has done this in the past with original 1990 ZR-1 with Mercury Marine built 32 valve DOHC V8 instead of traditional pushrod SBC. That was a HUGE change, commanded a very large price premium and ended in 5 years. The 90-95 ZR-1 models still have collectibility value today.
Fox body 5.0 Mustangs from 1980s and 1990s were faster then vettes in the same era.
also i would say the buyer of the Vette has changed. i live in Baby Boomer heaven and stereotype of old guys as vette owners is changing for sure
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the C5 saved the corvette (maybe 2001) it was a radical clean fresh design -
My 2001 Lingenfelter Twin Turbo.
(https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cobaltss.net-vbulletin/2000x1124/80-20180608_205524_resized_1_42d8e021cdf6d994f85dbcdf689d6bf2028bfccf.jpg)
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My 2001 Lingenfelter Twin Turbo.
(https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cobaltss.net-vbulletin/2000x1124/80-20180608_205524_resized_1_42d8e021cdf6d994f85dbcdf689d6bf2028bfccf.jpg)
Fuck Yeah!
Love it.
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My 2001 Lingenfelter Twin Turbo.
(https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cobaltss.net-vbulletin/2000x1124/80-20180608_205524_resized_1_42d8e021cdf6d994f85dbcdf689d6bf2028bfccf.jpg)
I've seen your posts on the CorvetteForum!
Had no idea you post over here too. I live over there these days. haha
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I've seen your posts on the CorvetteForum!
Had no idea you post over here too. I live over there these days. haha
Fuck Yeah!
Love it.
Thanks! I pretty much just lurk over here.
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Looks like an Acura NSX.
X2
Fucking retarted.
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Doesn’t work that way, you of all people should know this.
While Porsche is having breaking sales, GM is going through ceos starting with caddy, the world doesn’t see American cars as profitable or desirable, this isn’t the 40’s, 50’s or 60’s anymore
Yes, that’s why your beloved American car companies are next to being extinct soon
Zr1 got beat by a “lowly” gt3rs not a gt2
You also have to understand that many older Jewish people, like TA, will never feel fully comfortable buying a German vehicle. The memories of the Holocaust are still to fresh for some.
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As long as it doesn’t have all the lame plastic shit on it, like the current one.
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I'm not a car guy but would like to be more educated. What's all this mid engine, rear engine, front engine stuff?
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I'm not a car guy but would like to be more educated. What's all this mid engine, rear engine, front engine stuff?
Front engine = Engine between front wheels / front of car - IE most cars
Rear engine = Engine between rear wheel / back of car - IE Porsche 911’s
Mid engine = Engine behind drivers / front seats - Ahead of rear wheel - IE Audi R8
Quick rough guide.
HTH.
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Front engine = Engine between front wheels / front of car - IE most cars
Rear engine = Engine between rear wheel / back of car - IE Porsche 911’s
Mid engine = Engine behind drivers / front seats - Ahead of rear wheel - IE Audi R8
Quick rough guide.
HTH.
But what are the advantages and disadvantages of each? Is there a link somewhere that breaks it down for the pathetically uninformed.
My brother, who was a car guy, had a Porsche 911 back in the mid 70s. It was jet black and I remember the engine being in the rear and being air cooled. Sweet ride and a pussy magnet for a guy in his mid twenties. He treated it like it was the Christ child.
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But what are the advantages and disadvantages of each? Is there a link somewhere that breaks it down for the pathetically uninformed.
My brother, who was a car guy, had a Porsche 911 back in the mid 70s. It was jet black and I remember the engine being in the rear and being air cooled. Sweet ride and a pussy magnet for a guy in his mid twenties. He treated it like it was the Christ child.
All to do with weight distribution & Handling of the vehicle
Look at F1 cars they are mid engine.