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Title: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Joe Valentino on April 07, 2019, 09:58:58 AM
Does anyone has the video of Big Jay Masters, from the Delrays Misfits torn his quads, while trying to rep a 600 Pound Squat?

Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: IronMeister on April 07, 2019, 10:01:04 AM


No homo...
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: MAXX on April 07, 2019, 10:06:49 AM
damn feel sorry for him. Good guy really

maybe not the best idea at 50+  :(
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: deadz on April 07, 2019, 10:10:33 AM
Thats gotta hurt.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Joe Valentino on April 07, 2019, 10:11:15 AM
damn feel sorry for him. Good guy really

maybe not the best idea at 50+  :(

Damn. Jean Pierre Fux, the professional Bodybuilder, had almost the same injuries 15 years ago or something. Looks like its a looong road to recover. Besides being stuck at a hospital for over 2 months.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Darren Avey on April 07, 2019, 10:12:42 AM
Damn. Jean Pierre Fux, the professional Bodybuilder, had almost the same injuries 15 years ago or something. Looks like its a looong road to recover. Besides being stuck at a hospital for over 2 months.

Ah yes, jean pierre. I bench 500lbs, I can kick anyone's ass.

Yes, bench press equals fighting ability. 
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: MAXX on April 07, 2019, 10:13:37 AM
Damn. Jean Pierre Fux, the professional Bodybuilder, had almost the same injuries 15 years ago or something. Looks like its a looong road to recover. Besides being stuck at a hospital for over 2 months.
well he most definately will never be squatting 600 pounds in his life ever again. maybe not even 400. Gotta suck for a guy that was all about his powerlifting :/
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: SF1900 on April 07, 2019, 10:15:38 AM
He has no business squatting 600 pounds.

Unless you're a competitive powerlifter or WSM competitor, there is zero sense in squatting.

It's really a waste of time for the every day lifter.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Joe Valentino on April 07, 2019, 10:17:54 AM
Ah yes, jean pierre. I bench 500lbs, I can kick anyone's ass.

Yes, bench press equals fighting ability. 

Damn, Dude, I squat 120 pounds for 8 and thats it. If I mess with more that than, im screwed for life
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: MAXX on April 07, 2019, 10:18:44 AM
He has no business squatting 600 pounds.

Unless you're a competitive powerlifter or WSM competitor, there is zero sense in squatting.

It's really a waste of time for the every day lifter.

he has competed in powerlifting. Pretty sure he planned on competing and setting some records in the +50 age group. And that's why he did this lift to improve his squat. Hes a 500+ bencher aswell. did 500 for 3 or something like that and he's 50
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: WalterWhite on April 07, 2019, 10:37:26 AM
He has no business squatting 600 pounds.

Unless you're a competitive powerlifter or WSM competitor, there is zero sense in squatting.

It's really a waste of time for the every day lifter.


This

His warmup jumps were also way too big.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Taffin on April 07, 2019, 10:52:56 AM
Ouch.

It's like you can almost see the separation distance on his left quad as he straightens out.  Terrible business...  :-X  (But good that he'd set the pins at a safe height)

I confess to being pretty ignorant of most of the Del-Ray goings-on apart from Big Lenny, but didn't I see this Masters guy in a bench press video last year where he did a PB, then when he got up from the bench someone pointed out that he was bleeding from this head?  Not from an injury or anything though, just through some of his pores... I wonder what his BP averages at..?  It may be that, like Monsieur Fux, this accident has saved his life...


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Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: SF1900 on April 07, 2019, 10:55:16 AM
he has competed in powerlifting. Pretty sure he planned on competing and setting some records in the +50 age group. And that's why he did this lift to improve his squat. Hes a 500+ bencher aswell. did 500 for 3 or something like that and he's 50

He has = the past.

We don't know if he planned to compete in the future.

Clearly, his body could not handle the poundage. He should have known better. It's not worth it.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 07, 2019, 11:11:23 AM
Things like this have always made me cringe, but that was even more brutal to watch after having torn my bi.  You think it's going to look much more hideous than it does, and that there will be some loud snap, but when it happens it's just a subtle "pop" sound and you feel the muscle let go from the attachment.  Like him, I knew what happened immediately.

I was thinking of trying to get back to 405 x 10-12 with my little "comeback", but after seeing that I think I'll cap out at doing 315 x 10-15 on a consistent basis.  Once the last rep becomes slowed I'm done.  Everything I've been doing since I started again is about higher reps, temp, and time under tension; and since it's working, I see no reason to change things up at my age. 

I'd rather look like I'm one of the stronger guys in the gym than try to be one.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: ratherbebig on April 07, 2019, 11:22:46 AM
why cant he just settle for goblet squats  ???
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: BB on April 07, 2019, 11:24:29 AM
At least he had the safety pins in, and they held.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: MAXX on April 07, 2019, 11:32:04 AM
He has = the past.

We don't know if he planned to compete in the future.

Clearly, his body could not handle the poundage. He should have known better. It's not worth it.
nah he has clearly stated in podcasts and what not that he wanted to break records in the 50+ class. Primarily his focus was bench though.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 07, 2019, 11:36:25 AM


No homo...

At least he used the safety bars :-\
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: SF1900 on April 07, 2019, 11:38:48 AM
nah he has clearly stated in podcasts and what not that he wanted to break records in the 50+ class. Primarily his focus was bench though.

He should just quit. It's not worth a plastic trophy. Now he will be in recovery for a very long time.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: ratherbebig on April 07, 2019, 11:40:15 AM
He should just quit. It's not worth a plastic trophy. Now he will be in recovery for a very long time.

how do you know if its worth it?

ever heard of goldmans dilemma
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: ratherbebig on April 07, 2019, 11:40:51 AM
Goldman's dilemma, or the Goldman dilemma, is a question that was posed to elite athletes by physician, osteopath and publicist Robert M. Goldman, asking whether they would take a drug that would guarantee them overwhelming success in sport, but cause them to die after five years. In his research, as in previous research by Mirkin, approximately half the athletes responded that they would take the drug
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 07, 2019, 11:47:12 AM
Goldman's dilemma, or the Goldman dilemma, is a question that was posed to elite athletes by physician, osteopath and publicist Robert M. Goldman, asking whether they would take a drug that would guarantee them overwhelming success in sport, but cause them to die after five years. In his research, as in previous research by Mirkin, approximately half the athletes responded that they would take the drug

I've read about something like this before, but I didn't know there was a name attached to it.  Thanks for posting that.

I would assume the same question could be posed to poor/unhappy people about taking a pill that would make their life great for five years, and we'd likely end up with the same result if not a higher "yes" response.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: ratherbebig on April 07, 2019, 11:50:18 AM
I've read about something like this before, but I didn't know there was a name attached to it.  Thanks for posting that.

I would assume the same question could be posed to poor/unhappy people about taking a pill that would make their life great for five years, and we'd likely end up with the same result if not a higher "yes" response.

there's been other studies since then where the no are nowhere that high.

but i think the takeaway is that for some of these obsessed athletes winning truely IS everything which might explain the level of risk etc they take.

an interesting question for getbig would be something like "if you were to become a getbig moderator and die 5 years later, would you?"  :D
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: IroNat on April 07, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
He looked very unstable under that weight when he took it off the pins.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Tennisballz on April 07, 2019, 12:16:48 PM
He has no business squatting 600 pounds.

Unless you're a competitive powerlifter or WSM competitor, there is zero sense in squatting.

It's really a waste of time for the every day lifter.

x2. Why any average lifter squats is beyond me.  Too many people listening to fat asses online like Jason Blaha.  Daily stretching/pushups/pullups and a jog around the track for 30 minutes would yield 10 times more health for the average person rather than trying to "max out" on squats.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 07, 2019, 12:22:47 PM
x2. Why any average lifter squats is beyond me.  Too many people listening to fat asses online like Jason Blaha.  Daily stretching/pushups/pullups and a jog around the track for 30 minutes would yield 10 times more health for the average person rather than trying to "max out" on squats.
Don't forget bodyweight squats with the pushups/pullups.  Bodyweight squats give you an incredible pump in the quads without spinal compression from a heavy weight on you back and almost no risk of injury.  I agree that unless someone competes in powerlifting or bodybuilding there is no reason to squat heavy.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: JAGO on April 07, 2019, 12:52:05 PM
The guy is a loser. Talks a big game and when I busted his ass on IG he banned me, both accounts.

J
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: funk51 on April 07, 2019, 01:03:17 PM
At least he used the safety bars :-\
           surprised the yeller in the background didn't tell him to get up and walk it off.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: paloboi on April 07, 2019, 01:06:12 PM
We don't care about injuries were freaks let me finish my creatine phenibut cocktail and ill get back to you.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: ratherbebig on April 07, 2019, 01:18:09 PM
x2. Why any average lifter squats is beyond me.  Too many people listening to fat asses online like Jason Blaha.  Daily stretching/pushups/pullups and a jog around the track for 30 minutes would yield 10 times more health for the average person rather than trying to "max out" on squats.

you seem to think that the only reason people go to the gym is for health? i dont know what made you believe such a stupid thing.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: a_pupil on April 07, 2019, 01:19:03 PM
get what deserve for talking shit.

but hopefully for his sake he'll drop some weight and exercise for health now.

the dude can barely walk without gassing and sweating buckets.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: JAGO on April 07, 2019, 01:32:00 PM
get what deserve for talking shit.

but hopefully for his sake he'll drop some weight and exercise for health now.

the dude can barely walk without gassing and sweating buckets.

Lose weight . . . I wouldn’t put it past him to have done this on purpose so he could get pain killers and then blame them for going back to the booze.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: chaos on April 07, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
At least he used the safety bars :-\
This. I see a lot of people squatting without safety bars.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Tennisballz on April 07, 2019, 01:46:58 PM
Don't forget bodyweight squats with the pushups/pullups.  Bodyweight squats give you an incredible pump in the quads without spinal compression from a heavy weight on you back and almost no risk of injury.  I agree that unless someone competes in powerlifting or bodybuilding there is no reason to squat heavy.
I agree.  I should include bodyweight squats in there as they are a fantastic exercise.  Also things like wall sits as well.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Strubbbbs on April 07, 2019, 02:15:14 PM
how do you know if its worth it?

ever heard of goldmans dilemma

Meh, that question was posed to basically kids/young adults. It's a little different if you're 50. And more so if you have a family to take care of etc. When you're young the idea of being alive at 50 doesn't even compute, so of course they're going to give perspectives and answers that are only beneficial in the short-term.

Feel bad for the guy though. Tunnel vision is a bitch. Getting old sucks, physically and psychologically.

Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: JAGO on April 07, 2019, 02:34:15 PM
I watched the video again - Jeff Spicoli Vans, no belt and no chance. Was he crying in the video?

J
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Bevo on April 07, 2019, 09:17:24 PM
I feel bad for the sucker that has to unrack the weights, the least he could have done was re rack the weights before going to the hospital
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: keanu on April 07, 2019, 09:21:31 PM
Strength wise he looked like he was about to complete the rep no problem. He will be looking more like a lightbulb after this.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: tommywishbone on April 07, 2019, 10:02:09 PM


Some old busted 242 pounder hitting 500 X 10. Strong SOB. Handsome too.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: fredrollon on April 07, 2019, 11:34:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfE8mOct2ho (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfE8mOct2ho)

I wouldn’t put it past him to have done this on purpose so he could get pain killers and then blame them for going back to the booze.


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Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: falco on April 08, 2019, 02:03:03 AM
He has no business squatting 600 pounds.

Unless you're a competitive powerlifter or WSM competitor, there is zero sense in squatting.

It's really a waste of time for the every day lifter.


If you don't go heavy on squats, it is a safe exercise and gives excellent results.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: USMC 1371 on April 08, 2019, 02:24:36 AM
I hope he has disability insurance. He’s going to be out of the truck for a while.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: illuminati on April 08, 2019, 02:53:51 AM


Some old busted 242 pounder hitting 500 X 10. Strong SOB. Handsome too.

Very Good going
Is that your good self ?
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Powerlift66 on April 08, 2019, 03:29:23 AM


Some old busted 242 pounder hitting 500 X 10. Strong SOB. Handsome too.

Great job Tommy..
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: _bruce_ on April 08, 2019, 03:46:20 AM
I hope he has disability insurance. He’s going to be out of the truck for a while.

Seconded - he's got a regular job... that was a pretty dumb move to risk it all for a squatting experiment.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: bigkid on April 08, 2019, 05:48:03 AM
I hope he has disability insurance. He’s going to be out of the truck for a while.
Was thinking the same thing.  Guys livelihood is driving a truck.  Really bad risk/reward ratio in what he was doing.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: deadz on April 08, 2019, 08:04:49 AM
He’s an alcoholic. He was probably still drunk from the day before. He has no business doing roids and lifting heavy.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Taffin on April 08, 2019, 11:50:11 AM


Some old busted 242 pounder hitting 500 X 10. Strong SOB. Handsome too.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Titus Pullo on April 08, 2019, 02:09:10 PM
Edit (stupid fucking autocorrect):

Ouch.

It's like you can almost see the separation distance on his left quad as he straightens out.  Terrible business...  :-X  (But good that he'd set the pins at a safe height)

I confess to being pretty ignorant of most of the Del-Ray goings-on apart from Big Lenny, but didn't I see this Masters guy in a bench press video last year where he did a PB, then when he got up from the bench someone pointed out that he was bleeding from this head?  Not from an injury or anything though, just through some of his pores... I wonder what his BP averages at..?  It may be that, like Monsieur Fux, this accident has saved his life...


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I saw that...since I also have high bp, it sent shivers down my spine.

Of course, the idiot is an admitted drunk, he smokes and he's really fat.  He and Brad are the only two of that lot I can stand -- I despise Darth Gimpus, and Lenny is just a disgusting waste of jaunced, maggot-ridden flesh* -- but damn, those motherfuckers are unhealthy.

*I bet it you sliced Lenny's gut open, worms and pus would spill out.  That, or it'd look like the innards of the Taun Taun from The Empire Strikes Back :D
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: blackpele on April 08, 2019, 02:23:40 PM
x2. Why any average lifter squats is beyond me.  Too many people listening to fat asses online like Jason Blaha.  Daily stretching/pushups/pullups and a jog around the track for 30 minutes would yield 10 times more health for the average person rather than trying to "max out" on squats.

Agree 100%..........too much risk for too little gain.........
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: TheShape. on April 08, 2019, 02:35:14 PM
Squats are fine if you’re not attempting 1 rep maxes. It’s definitely my worst lift but I’d rather play it safe like a pussy.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Dave D on April 08, 2019, 03:09:47 PM
Meh, that question was posed to basically kids/young adults. It's a little different if you're 50. And more so if you have a family to take care of etc. When you're young the idea of being alive at 50 doesn't even compute, so of course they're going to give perspectives and answers that are only beneficial in the short-term.

Feel bad for the guy though. Tunnel vision is a bitch. Getting old sucks, physically and psychologically.



LOL have you ever heard this dude talk? Is his mindset that of a 50 year old?

You guys on here are hilarious. Acting like this Jay Masters has the mental maturity of a 50 year old.

Does this dude even have a family?

Classic internet arguing with your comment.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: BILL ANVIL on April 08, 2019, 06:08:22 PM
He has no business squatting 600 pounds.

Unless you're a competitive powerlifter or WSM competitor, there is zero sense in squatting.

It's really a waste of time for the every day lifter.


This.

Although it helps you maintain size even if you arent a competitive lifter. Dont have to go super heavy either.

This guy whoever he is does not look the part to be attempting that kind of weight.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: That_Dude on April 08, 2019, 06:42:51 PM
The video is tough to watch. Guy has pressed some crazy weight, hope he recovers.  620lbs is alot of weight surprised he was not even wearing a belt not that it would have saved his quads but 620lbs raw like that would have been a hell of a lift had he pulled it off. Goes to show not Everybody can be a Brad Castleberry or strength cartels big boy.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: JAGO on April 08, 2019, 07:00:12 PM
He’s an alcoholic. He was probably still drunk from the day before. He has no business doing roids and lifting heavy.

Exactly.

J
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 08, 2019, 07:16:04 PM
The older you get the more you are gambling with doing singles.  You can get more for you health and physique playing it safe doing higher reps in perfect form for a full range of motion. Just started a couple of months ago doing no weight squats at the end of my thigh routine. I do around 50 full range reps at a moderate cadence. I don't flop down like Cross fit guys trying to beat the clock to get their reps in. I just keep a good moderate cadence up and down. What a pump. Made everything from my knees to my back feel better. It's a great finisher to a thigh workout.

I remember Wilf Sylvester the short Mr. Universe winner in 1975 wrote he only used no weight body weight only squats prior to his win. He got 400 reps. Whether that was in sets or one set is unclear. He also used leg extensions and leg curls. Here's a top of the food chain bodybuilder who use to use barbell squats and hack machines who made the switch from the conventional to unconventional and made improvement to his thighs.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 08, 2019, 08:21:38 PM


Some old busted 242 pounder hitting 500 X 10. Strong SOB. Handsome too.

No homo? :-X Or is that you? :-\

Love the plates too!  We had the silver Ivanko spider web plates like that at one of our out of state gyms.  Love the look, how easy they are to handle, and how skinny they are for doing leg presses.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Matt on April 08, 2019, 09:38:04 PM
Ah yes, jean pierre. I bench 500lbs, I can kick anyone's ass.

Yes, bench press equals fighting ability.  

 ;D ;D ;D

Haha, a friend of mine told me about how Jean Pierre felt that way too.  Funny stuff.  :D  I'm assuming that fighting normal people, there would be an advantage in being strong?  Although I also assume most bodybuilders would be relatively immobile...Kevin Levrone once wrote in Muscular Development that the average person could beat up a bodybuilder on contest day.  That gave me perspective I never had before.

Being fit and strong at a low body weight, I have never felt intimidated by bodybuilders, as I assume they would gas out too quickly.  Not all though.  Mike Matarazzo was apparently pretty tough, and had a competitive boxing background.

A friend of mine is a huge UFC fan, and makes money betting professionally on it - although he bet that Bisping would beat St-Pierre and also bet that McGregor would beat Nurmagomedov, both of which, I thought the opposite would happen, and was right.

Nevertheless, he is a good UFC/MMA gambler.

I asked him how a fight between Georges St-Pierre versus 8x Canada's Strongest Man [+ 2x 5th place @ World's Strongest Man] Jean-Francois Caron would go down.

He said the fight would last 20 seconds - then said maybe 60-90 seconds [I can't recall - but he upped the time].  He said Georges would punch him in the face with two well-planted punches, and the fight would be over.

Then I asked the top combat sportsman in Thunder Bay - Ronnie Bingham [amazing wrestler, who competes @250-lb, I believe], and he told me that JF Caron's mass could potentially give GSP some trouble.

As I see it...if JF could take GSP, it would need to happen in 90 seconds.  And for all we know, he can take a massive punch.  After 90 seconds, JF would not have the stamina to last much longer, and the fight would go to GSP no matter what.

I can't remember if I asked you about this hypothetical GSP vs. JFC fight before, Darren.

Do you think my friends have the right idea there?

Beats my 950-lb flip!  I narrowly missed the 1100-lb tire in 2014 - that's the biggest tire in Thunder Bay.  I feel like I would have flipped it had I been wearing a weight belt to rest the tire on + better shoes [more grip].  It blows my mind how strong these guys are, and the lifter in me wants to believe they would last in a fight...but I know better.  JF Caron is most likely the strongest Canadian in history - unless you believe the legend of Louis Cyr.  It's amazing how French Canadians have done so well in strongman...but Frenchmen from France have never performed at that level.  Could be a cultural thing...or maybe the strongest French people came here?

Love your MMA posts, Darren!  I mainly follow the welterweights since that is my weight category...but with age, I'm looking to train wrestling and striking, as strength alone is not going to help me win a fight.

Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Mothballs on April 08, 2019, 11:56:07 PM
Looks like a fat slob.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Powerlift66 on April 09, 2019, 01:49:07 AM
This.

Although it helps you maintain size even if you arent a competitive lifter. Dont have to go super heavy either.

This guy whoever he is does not look the part to be attempting that kind of weight.

Plus he sits in a truck all day, he needs help getting up from the bench after doing a set, is very tight and not in any sort of flexible shape.
Takes years to properly build back up to that weight if he once did it before. Most tears are obviously caused by very tight and out of shape muscles, and over-loading them. (Which he did).
(And dehydration lends itself to tears as well).

Can Jay even touch his toe's (before this)? Look at Tommy's 500x10. IN shape, strong and proper lifting..
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Matt on April 09, 2019, 02:38:56 AM
Plus he sits in a truck all day, he needs help getting up from the bench after doing a set, is very tight and not in any sort of flexible shape.
Takes years to properly build back up to that weight if he once did it before. Most tears are obviously caused by very tight and out of shape muscles, and over-loading them. (Which he did).
(And dehydration lends itself to tears as well).

Can Jay even touch his toe's (before this)? Look at Tommy's 500x10. IN shape, strong and proper lifting..

Tommy's lift blew my mind personally.  I guess for him, 500-lb is such light weight that it wasn't a risk for him.

Makes me wonder if he was squatting over 700-lb in his prime.

It also reminds me of Layne Norton...who I believe squats and deadlifts around 700-lb, and bench presses 400-lb.  Layne takes his share of flak online, but he is a strong dude.  And he was something like 202-lb when hitting that ~1800-lb total.  Very impressive.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: MAXX on April 09, 2019, 04:07:51 AM
Should have done deca and growth for his ligaments sake.  

Also i think he was on ketodiet to try drop weight.
Having no glycogen in the muscles and trying to break 1rm pl records is not a good combination...
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: milone79 on April 09, 2019, 08:33:01 AM
He has no business squatting 600 pounds.

Unless you're a competitive powerlifter or WSM competitor, there is zero sense in squatting.

It's really a waste of time for the every day lifter.


lmao zero sense in squatting now?? Please kill yourself today!!
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 09, 2019, 08:46:35 AM
Saw this on Yahoo News b4 I went to bed when I set my alarms on my phone.  Jay's got nothin on this poor girl.  Hope she heels up, and is able to walk normal for the rest of her life.  Announcer makes probably the dumbest comment, and observation ever.....

Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: MAXX on April 09, 2019, 11:31:09 AM
Saw this on Yahoo News b4 I went to bed when I set my alarms on my phone.  Jay's got nothin on this poor girl.  Hope she heels up, and is able to walk normal for the rest of her life.  Announcer makes probably the dumbest comment, and observation ever.....


Bone fractures are 100x better than muscle tears. Bones will fuse together stronger where as muscles will never have the same strength/flexibility again.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 09, 2019, 11:57:48 AM
Ouch! :o
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 09, 2019, 08:05:49 PM
Bone fractures are 100x better than muscle tears. Bones will fuse together stronger where as muscles will never have the same strength/flexibility again.

Can't dispute what you're saying here, but it sure as fuck made me cringe a lot more than the vid of Jay.

I'm still baffled by the announcer in that clip "looks like something went wrong with her ankle" :-\
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: tommywishbone on April 09, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
No homo? :-X Or is that you? :-\

Love the plates too!  We had the silver Ivanko spider web plates like that at one of our out of state gyms.  Love the look, how easy they are to handle, and how skinny they are for doing leg presses.

Yes sir, it's me.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: The True Adonis on April 09, 2019, 10:46:57 PM
Tommy's lift blew my mind personally.  I guess for him, 500-lb is such light weight that it wasn't a risk for him.

Makes me wonder if he was squatting over 700-lb in his prime.

It also reminds me of Layne Norton...who I believe squats and deadlifts around 700-lb, and bench presses 400-lb.  Layne takes his share of flak online, but he is a strong dude.  And he was something like 202-lb when hitting that ~1800-lb total.  Very impressive.
???

Did you forget how many times he has been injured?  A few serious ones.  Only a matter of time before it happens again and it will go bad.....
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 10, 2019, 07:47:27 PM
Yes sir, it's me.

That's awesome dude!  I hope you realize I was joking when I said I was not impressed. The part I added elaborating why was a joke, and  a nod to "the strongest getbigger thread"

Keep it up, but be careful!

What age do you plan to back it down?
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 10, 2019, 07:49:49 PM
???

Did you forget how many times he has been injured?  A few serious ones.  Only a matter of time before it happens again and it will go bad.....

Layne?  What injuries did he have?

I haven't paid attention to or seen anything I can think of his since the Mayhem days when he wrapped up and did a angry penguin walk across the gym to knock out some squats.  He is a strong fucker for sure....especially at that weight, and being a natty.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Bevo on April 10, 2019, 09:16:25 PM
Layne?  What injuries did he have?

I haven't paid attention to or seen anything I can think of his since the Mayhem days when he wrapped up and did a angry penguin walk across the gym to knock out some squats.  He is a strong fucker for sure....especially at that weight, and being a natty.

Angry penguin walk 🐧  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: AbrahamG on April 10, 2019, 09:59:16 PM
Layne?  What injuries did he have?

I haven't paid attention to or seen anything I can think of his since the Mayhem days when he wrapped up and did a angry penguin walk across the gym to knock out some squats.  He is a strong fucker for sure....especially at that weight, and being a natty.

He sure is a douche bag though.  Not as bad as Knobliner, but still pretty bad.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: tommywishbone on April 10, 2019, 10:49:08 PM
That's awesome dude!  I hope you realize I was joking when I said I was not impressed. The part I added elaborating why was a joke, and  a nod to "the strongest getbigger thread"

Keep it up, but be careful!

What age do you plan to back it down?

That's awesome dude!  I hope you realize I was joking when I said I was not impressed. The part I added elaborating why was a joke, and  a nod to "the strongest getbigger thread"

Keep it up, but be careful!

What age do you plan to back it down?

Appreciated sir.

When will I back it down?  Well... luckily the sport of powerlifting is pretty simple. Hell, its almost primordial. It will be easy to know when to say 'enough.' Once my total (squat + bench + deadlift) begins to slide and I can not stop the slide, I will stop. That day is close at hand. 

Right now I am able to increase my total at each big Meet each year. I only compete two times per year as anything more causes me to "break down." 

I would like to win five IPL Masters World Championships... right now I have three titles.  I would also like to hold three of the four possible Masters World Records.  Right now I have two of the four. The four possible world records are of course, the squat, the bench press, the deadlift AND the total. 

Again, I appreciate the nice words.  All the best, Tom.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: _bruce_ on April 11, 2019, 04:18:12 AM
Props to you for the 10 reps which where outstanding when taking the huge weight into account.

Will you "just" pump and cruise after you have retired? Any experience with the reverse hyper and stories?

Regarding Jay "Masters" - better injured than imgured.



Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: JAGO on April 11, 2019, 04:57:19 AM
Any updates on this douche? He must be pissing and crying in IG from the hospital.

J
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 11, 2019, 08:08:09 AM
Any updates on this douche? He must be pissing and crying in IG from the hospital.

J
You would think these "iron warriors" would have a great health insurance plan.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: DanM on April 11, 2019, 07:04:42 PM
Squats are a good exercise, best to see how strong you can get at them and the other big lifts while in your 20's so you can look back without any regrets. Once in your 30's it's probably best for most to lighten up and find other ways of making the training challenging.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: tommywishbone on April 11, 2019, 09:52:59 PM
Props to you for the 10 reps which where outstanding when taking the huge weight into account.

Will you "just" pump and cruise after you have retired? Any experience with the reverse hyper and stories?

Regarding Jay "Masters" - better injured than imgured.


Hi B.   I'll drop the androgens. Drop the calories. Throw in cardio 3-4 times weekly. That will knock a very real 40 pounds off me.  I'll look and feel much better.

The reverse hyper machine. Louie Simmons device? Sure, I've used it many many times. When I was younger, it was great. These days my low back can not take the added work load. I've tried brother, believe me. Truth be told, I'm not sure that machine is a good idea for everybody. Give it a try. Control that downward swing. If you see improvements- keep it in your routine.   If you're constantly sore and feel "fragile" perhaps it's not the exercise for you.

Stay cool. Tom
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: budgiesmuggler on April 12, 2019, 02:25:11 AM
Jay you have our best wishes on a fast recovery from Down Under.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Powerlift66 on April 12, 2019, 02:58:59 AM
Hi B.   I'll drop the androgens. Drop the calories. Throw in cardio 3-4 times weekly. That will knock a very real 40 pounds off me.  I'll look and feel much better.

The reverse hyper machine. Louie Simmons device? Sure, I've used it many many times. When I was younger, it was great. These days my low back can not take the added work load. I've tried brother, believe me. Truth be told, I'm not sure that machine is a good idea for everybody. Give it a try. Control that downward swing. If you see improvements- keep it in your routine.   If you're constantly sore and feel "fragile" perhaps it's not the exercise for you.

Stay cool. Tom

With my disc issues, I use the reverse hyper 4 days a week when Im at the gym.
I only put two 10's on it, do slow/controlled reps. (Only 3 to 4 sets). Really helps my issue.
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Powerlift66 on April 12, 2019, 03:03:39 AM
He sure is a douche bag though.  Not as bad as Knobliner, but still pretty bad.

Abraham, Ive never watched any of Layne's vids, but yes, Knobliner is so annoying (a douche), looks like he's going to explode from the Tren use.
(Blood pressure, red face, veins, etc).
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2019, 03:19:00 AM
You would think these "iron warriors" would have a great health insurance plan.

Probably the same one Robby Robinson has...Dollar General Hospital via Facebook.  FTN.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 12, 2019, 04:45:16 AM
Probably the same one Robby Robinson has...Dollar General Hospital via Facebook.  FTN.
Yeah, if he's that poor he should have Medicaid.  He's probably just pocketing the cash.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: The Scott on April 12, 2019, 05:19:53 PM
Yeah, if he's that poor he should have Medicaid.  He's probably just pocketing the cash.

I agree, sir.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: tommywishbone on April 12, 2019, 05:23:56 PM
With my disc issues, I use the reverse hyper 4 days a week when Im at the gym.
I only put two 10's on it, do slow/controlled reps. (Only 3 to 4 sets). Really helps my issue.

Beautiful.  It's a good machine for sure. Each person just needs to use it according to their purpose. I've seen many big boys load up the 45's on each side and really get the weight swinging. For them it worked. 
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 12, 2019, 07:06:56 PM
Angry penguin walk 🐧  ;D

As a formerly jacked midget I know it when I see it.  I've done it myself.......just not the entire length of the gym looking like a rabid penguin hunting a squat bar as it's prey.

It was a strange video to watch. :-\
Title: Re: Jay Masters torns Both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 12, 2019, 07:07:44 PM
Appreciated sir.

When will I back it down?  Well... luckily the sport of powerlifting is pretty simple. Hell, its almost primordial. It will be easy to know when to say 'enough.' Once my total (squat + bench + deadlift) begins to slide and I can not stop the slide, I will stop. That day is close at hand. 

Right now I am able to increase my total at each big Meet each year. I only compete two times per year as anything more causes me to "break down." 

I would like to win five IPL Masters World Championships... right now I have three titles.  I would also like to hold three of the four possible Masters World Records.  Right now I have two of the four. The four possible world records are of course, the squat, the bench press, the deadlift AND the total. 

Again, I appreciate the nice words.  All the best, Tom.


Very lofty goals, and inspiring stuff!  Best of luck reaching all of them Tommy!
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Primemuscle on April 14, 2019, 04:58:09 PM
Probably the same one Robby Robinson has...Dollar General Hospital via Facebook.  FTN.

OMG, you are just so very clever and witty with your word choices. I bet tons of people people are enormously impressed with your aggressive show of strength and uncommon vocabulary. And yet, when you think about it, you are no different than most of the posters here who hide behind their keyboards.  ::)
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 14, 2019, 05:05:57 PM
OMG, you are just so very clever and witty with your word choices. I bet tons of people people are enormously impressed with your aggressive show of strength and uncommon vocabulary. And yet, when you think about it, you are no different than most of the posters here who hide behind their keyboards.  ::)

I've had differences with both of you, and I will say I'm likely not alone in thinking that at least his "clever and witty" words are his own.

Just sayin....
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: The Scott on April 14, 2019, 08:05:47 PM
OMG, you are just so very clever and witty with your word choices. I bet tons of people people are enormously impressed with your aggressive show of strength and uncommon vocabulary. And yet, when you think about it, you are no different than most of the posters here who hide behind their keyboards.  ::)

I've met some here but they didn't know it was me but I knew who they were.  Think about that kid.   As for my vocabulary, it was born of persecution by sub-humans like yourself and nurtured by the teaching of my mother and a dear friend.

I am different than you.  You feign humility, caring, love and respect to name but four aspects of what it means to be humane.  You lie not only in the sense of the falseness of your words but in your life.  Social JustUs Whores the lot of you.  You reap what you sow.  You have hear of this,  no? 

Just to be certain, I am not speaking of a female pig.  One cannot be too careful when dealing with cultural Philistines such as frequent this place. 

I bite my thumb at the cucktards of this place and the real world.  They curl into their fecal position, suckling their thumbs as if at the teat of the government. 

A man votes but once.  A cucktard as frequently as they can get away with.   Think about that, little man.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Joe Valentino on April 14, 2019, 08:15:55 PM
I've met some here but they didn't know it was me but I knew who they were.  Think about that kid.   As for my vocabulary, it was born of persecution by sub-humans like yourself and nurtured by the teaching of my mother and a dear friend.

I am different than you.  You feign humility, caring, love and respect to name but four aspects of what it means to be humane.  You lie not only in the sense of the falseness of your words but in your life.  Social JustUs Whores the lot of you.  You reap what you sow.  You have hear of this,  no? 

Just to be certain, I am not speaking of a female pig.  One cannot be too careful when dealing with cultural Philistines such as frequent this place. 

I bite my thumb at the cucktards of this place and the real world.  They curl into their fecal position, suckling their thumbs as if at the teat of the government. 

A man votes but once.  A cucktard as frequently as they can get away with.   Think about that, little man.

Damn, the thread turned into Surrealism or something
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: The Scott on April 14, 2019, 08:20:27 PM
Damn, the thread turned into Surrealism or something

I don't consider myself nor my words to be even remotely avant-garde, but okay.  Thanks!   I think... ;D
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: myt1 on April 14, 2019, 08:48:40 PM
I don't consider myself nor my words to be even remotely avant-garde, but okay.  Thanks!   I think... ;D

The "bite my thumb" line was incredibly clever and witty......and likely, even having pointed that out, it still went over Prime's head.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Taffin on April 14, 2019, 10:03:33 PM
I've met some here but they didn't know it was me but I knew who they were.  Think about that kid.   As for my vocabulary, it was born of persecution by sub-humans like yourself and nurtured by the teaching of my mother and a dear friend.

I am different than you.  You feign humility, caring, love and respect to name but four aspects of what it means to be humane.  You lie not only in the sense of the falseness of your words but in your life.  Social JustUs Whores the lot of you.  You reap what you sow.  You have hear of this,  no? 

Just to be certain, I am not speaking of a female pig.  One cannot be too careful when dealing with cultural Philistines such as frequent this place. 

I bite my thumb at the cucktards of this place and the real world.  They curl into their fecal position, suckling their thumbs as if at the teat of the government. 

A man votes but once.  A cucktard as frequently as they can get away with.   Think about that, little man.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qMWN1nJR/86xL.gif)
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Primemuscle on May 02, 2019, 11:03:27 PM
I've had differences with both of you, and I will say I'm likely not alone in thinking that at least his "clever and witty" words are his own.

Just sayin....

I'd love to chat with you about this, but it seems you've gone abroad again. Let me know when you're back in town.  ;)
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: Marty Champions on May 03, 2019, 08:08:45 PM
How is jay not cutler
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: AbrahamG on May 04, 2019, 12:13:27 AM
I don't consider myself nor my words to be even remotely avant-garde, but okay.  Thanks!   I think... ;D

Lying sack of shit.  Typist.
Title: Re: Jay Masters tears both Quads at 600 Pounds Squat Attempt
Post by: MAXX on May 04, 2019, 02:06:15 AM
You are offtopic this is about Jay Masters quad tears