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So hypothetically if you’ve never used before and have made your mind up to run deca, anavar and test cyp, what’s the lowest dose you could take to gain quality muscle and what should your calorie intake look like?
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never used before and want to run three different compounds?
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So hypothetically if you’ve never used before and have made your mind up to run deca, anavar and test cyp, what’s the lowest dose you could take to gain quality muscle and what should your calorie intake look like?
200mg of Deca weekly
250mg of Test weekly
50mg of anavar daily
Calories are dependent on your metabolic rate.
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200mg of Deca weekly
250mg of Test weekly
50mg of anavar daily
Calories are dependent on your metabolic rate.
jeez, its his first course, he will blow up off 250 mgs of test, if he doesnt then he should take up another hobby
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I was just gonna say 250 mgs of any type of Test is a great starting point and you`ll make quality gains.
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200mg of Deca weekly
250mg of Test weekly
50mg of anavar daily
Calories are dependent on your metabolic rate.
This + 1/2 to 1mg arimidex EOD
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I was just gonna say 250 mgs of any type of Test is a great starting point and you`ll make quality gains.
This.
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The deca is there because of joint issues over time, nothing major , I can just tell I’m getting older and feeling some wear and tear.. I don’t have a high metabolism but it’s not low either, just right in the middle. What’s your issue with it coach, what would you advise?
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This + 1/2 to 1mg arimidex EOD
I thought you were a real coach, what are you suggesting 3 compounds for a fisrt course, you have no idea how he would respond from 250mgs test alone, once you chuck in three compounds you dont know whats working or if a lower dose would work just as well.
Starting on a minimum dose gives you a better gauge of future use
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Also how long and based on the metabolic rate I’m saying what is the calorie range
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The deca is there because of joint issues over time, nothing major , I can just tell I’m getting older and feeling some wear and tear.. I don’t have a high metabolism but it’s not low either, just right in the middle. What’s your issue with it coach, what would you advise?
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I don’t have an issue with anything. Just a suggestion to add in the arimidex
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I was just gonna say 250 mgs of any type of Test is a great starting point and you`ll make quality gains.
I think so too. I'd save deca and all the other bullshit for much later. Hell, after 40 test, var & proviron are probably all I'd recommend touching.
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Also how long and based on the metabolic rate I’m saying what is the calorie range
If you dont know how many calories to eat then you shouldnt be thinking about taking drugs
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I don’t have an issue with anything. Just a suggestion to add in the arimidex
Im now worried that you coach collegde kids, do you give them the same advice?
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And as of last year my free testosterone was far too high for the doc to recommend trt, I’ve lifted for 25 years and eat fairly well don’t drink or smoke so supposedly this is why.
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Im now worried that you coach collegde kids, do you give them the same advice?
I`m sure Joe doesn`t,but ESF recommends insulin for teens................... ...true story if you believe the source of course.
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And as of last year my free testosterone was far too high for the doc to recommend trt, I’ve lifted for 25 years and eat fairly well don’t drink or smoke so supposedly this is why.
Post testicle pic or I'm calling bullshit.
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This + 1/2 to 1mg arimidex EOD
Adex depends on how he individually converts Test to Estrogen. I use 750mgs of TE weekly and only use 1mg of adex weekly which keeps my estradiol in range. Best to do labs to determine adex usage.
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I think so too. I'd save deca and all the other bullshit for much later. Hell, after 40 test, var & proviron are probably all I'd recommend touching.
the only reason I say deca is for joint and ligament issues that’s it. I’ve had bursitis in my shoulder and on and off issues with tendinitis and read it could help
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WAAAAAY back in the dark ages,my first cycle was 15 mgs. of CIBA D-Bol and I looked like a new man and was stronger than hell.
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the only reason I say deca is for joint and ligament issues that’s it. I’ve had bursitis in my shoulder and on and off issues with tendinitis and read it could help
Then go with 100mg of Deca weekly if you’re using it for joints.
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Then go with 100mg of Deca weekly if you’re using it for joints.
and test?
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I thought you were a real coach, what are you suggesting 3 compounds for a fisrt course, you have no idea how he would respond from 250mgs test alone, once you chuck in three compounds you dont know whats working or if a lower dose would work just as well.
Starting on a minimum dose gives you a better gauge of future use
I like coach, but I agree with you.
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and test?
Id still say 200 to 250mgs per week.
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I thought you were a real coach, what are you suggesting 3 compounds for a fisrt course, you have no idea how he would respond from 250mgs test alone, once you chuck in three compounds you dont know whats working or if a lower dose would work just as well.
Starting on a minimum dose gives you a better gauge of future use
DP wanted to know dosages of three compounds that’s what we gave him.
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Id still say 200 to 250mgs per week.
If you can’t make noticeable gains on 200mg for 10-12 weeks, it’s time to retire the bedazzled battle thong.
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the rule of thumb is 3CCs daily. mix it up however you like.
no but serious, just start on 1cc of test a week and work your way up.
leave the anavar and deca at the start. they can be added later.
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I was just gonna say 250 mgs of any type of Test is a great starting point and you`ll make quality gains.
My first time on ABS was when I was almost 18 years old. The doctor prescribed 5 mg D-Bol daily and he injected Test (don't know the dosage) once a week. Without changing my diet, I went from 140 to 180 lbs. over the course of several months....like 4 or 5. Aside from the time I did D-Bol in my late 20's and shot up to 225, 180-195 was what I weighed most of my adult life. Only in the last couple of years did I decide to drop some weight. Mainly because, I wasn't working out as hard or as often. 170-175 lbs. seems to be about right. Less than that, and I start looking too thin, more and my fat percentage goes up. I've been on TRT for over a decade.
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Illicit three of the most safest compounds you can use in therapeutic doses it’s not going to harm him one bit all I did was tell him to add in a half to 1 mg of arimidex if needed. If he’s not doing it for any other reason then HRT and the test is fine if you want to add some muscle I have no problem with what he has
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And just to add his receptors are wide open he’ll respond immediately an eight or 12 week cycle will get him the results that he needs or wants his calories are going to depend on his goals if you wants to add mass he’s going to take his bodyweight and times it by 20 if you want to lose some fat he’s going to take his bodyweight and times it by 10 or 12 is going to take those calories and break his macros down To whatever his body type dictates
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Thanks Coach! And everyone else seems like some great info.
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Thanks Coach! And everyone else seems like some great info.
Sorry about some of the typos and grammar fuck ups I’m actually driving right now using dictation LOL
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Lowest dose if using all three to gain quality muscle? 150mg test, 100 deca, 25mg var/day.
Bigger/more dramatic changes without as much effort and still probably no side effects, Deadz was a good recommendation.
Depends on what the question really is as you can most certainly get quality muscle gain on as little as 200mg test/week (some even less), but for more drastic changes then that choose the higher dosed option (still being a low-dosed cycle in the grand scheme of things).
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Lowest dose if using all three to gain quality muscle? 150mg test, 100 deca, 25mg var/day.
Bigger/more dramatic changes without as much effort and still probably no side effects, Deadz was a good recommendation.
Depends on what the question really is as you can most certainly get quality muscle gain on as little as 200mg test/week (some even less), but for more drastic changes then that choose the higher dosed option (still being a low-dosed cycle in the grand scheme of things).
I'd never touch deca ever again in any amount without the addition of proviron.
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I like Deca,but in the 90`s I got a nasty fucking abcess from Winstrol V.
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Anti Es kill your HDL, progressing hardening of the arteries unless your competing dont take them, bit of estrogenic fluid won't hurt you especially with low dose consistent test, you might need them short term coming off, but I would only use where you absolutely had to. Just my opinion.
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the only reason I say deca is for joint and ligament issues that’s it. I’ve had bursitis in my shoulder and on and off issues with tendinitis and read it could help
It feels like you just want to hit the juice, which is totally fine, but if this post is genuine then it's worth pointing out that your joint issues have a cause, and it isn't lack of deca. If you get stronger and continue to do the same movements which gave you grief to begin with, no rehab or prehab, more weight more volume...well.
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200mg of Deca weekly
250mg of Test weekly
50mg of anavar daily
Calories are dependent on your metabolic rate.
No..No ::)
1000mg of Deca Weekly
500mg of Test Weekly
150mg of anavar daily
eat like a fucking horse.
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Agree with Jeffley and Wes re 250mg a week, more than enough for first time on gear you may even be content enough on this and never see i any need to push further
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I'd never touch deca ever again in any amount without the addition of proviron.
Yes, we all have different reactions to substances.
Any dht related aas I have tried so far (not proviron yet) has given me the libido boost that is talked about for only a few weeks (a bit longer if I use low doses) but eventually it always causes my libido to drop and I get very irritable. Gives me low estrogen symptoms basically.
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No..No ::)
1000mg of Deca Weekly
500mg of Test Weekly
150mg of anavar daily
eat like a fucking horse.
He's looking to get a little tone not hoist up a Sandow.
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He's looking to get a little tone not hoist up a Sandow.
why be a lightweight ? Blast it i say !
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The problem with starting test at an advanced age is you will have to use for life or you will crash HARD! If you think you have trouble losing weight and have a low sex drive now just wait till you come off compounds. Just cut your calories which will make you lose weight, sleep more and vary your training schedule to keep fresh.
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The problem with starting test at an advanced age is you will have to use for life or you will crash HARD! If you think you have trouble losing weight and have a low sex drive now just wait till you come off compounds. Just cut your calories which will make you lose weight, sleep more and vary your training schedule to keep fresh.
That’s why no one completely comes off or stays off for good
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That’s why no one completely comes off or stays off for good
I know but at some point you have to quit unless you plan on using at 90.
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I know but at some point you have to quit unless you plan on using at 90.
I agree with you
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200mg of Deca weekly
250mg of Test weekly
50mg of anavar daily
Calories are dependent on your metabolic rate.
This won’t do shit for most.
You need at least 500 mgs of test and 400 mgs of Deca, at a minimum, to see any noticeable difference at your age unless you have primo genetics, which 90% of the population doesn’t. More if your gear is underdosed, which is likely with most UGL gear.
And forgot Anavar. It’s a complete waste of money. Use D-Bol or Anadrol.
AIs fuck up more guys than they help. Be careful and use only as needed.
If you’re going to cycle then do it right. Do a decent blast for 12 weeks and see what you look like. Cut back if sides become unbearable but don’t be a pussy either. This isn’t for everyone.
Running BS baby cycles are just a waste of money. You won’t get anything out of them.
Never come off. Cruise between cycles or until your bloods stabilize, which they will once you slow it up.
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Anti Es kill your HDL, progressing hardening of the arteries unless your competing dont take them, bit of estrogenic fluid won't hurt you especially with low dose consistent test, you might need them short term coming off, but I would only use where you absolutely had to. Just my opinion.
Agreed. There are much worse things than being a little watery offseason.
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This won’t do shit for most.
You need at least 500 mgs of test and 400 mgs of Deca, at a minimum, to see any noticeable difference at your age unless you have primo genetics, which 90% of the population doesn’t. More if your gear is underdosed, which is likely with most UGL gear.
And forgot Anavar. It’s a complete waste of money. Use D-Bol or Anadrol.
AIs fuck up more guys than they help. Be careful and use only as needed.
If you’re going to cycle then do it right. Do a decent blast for 12 weeks and see what you look like. Cut back if sides become unbearable but don’t be a pussy either. This isn’t for everyone.
Running BS baby cycles are just a waste of money. You won’t get anything out of them.
Never come off. Cruise between cycles or until your bloods stabilize, which they will once you slow it up.
nonsense
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nonsense
Not looking to debate.
Can you look more muscular than your cyclist neighbor on TRT doses? Yes.
Will you look like a bodybuilder on TRT doses particularly if you’re tall and have average or worse genetics? I question that.
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Not looking to debate.
Can you look more muscular than your cyclist neighbor on TRT doses? Yes.
Will you look like a bodybuilder on TRT doses particularly if you’re tall and have average or worse genetics? I question that.
That's not what your post said. You stated that it would make no noticeable difference.
Good that you do not debate this as you cannot debate as you've already conceded that your statement was incorrect.
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What a hodgepodge of fucked up advice.
On your first cycle,you`re gonna respond like a fucking madman.................. .why waste money and gear when all you need is 250mgs. of Test?
You`ll need or want to add in other compounds later but start out the right way.
If you do a zillion shots a week from jump street,what do you do after that.................2 zillion a week ?
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Not looking to debate.
Can you look more muscular than your cyclist neighbor on TRT doses? Yes.
Will you look like a bodybuilder on TRT doses particularly if you’re tall and have average or worse genetics? I question that.
I dont do so bad
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I know but at some point you have to quit unless you plan on using at 90.
Is there something wrong with that?
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I know but at some point you have to quit unless you plan on using at 90.
yes because when you get to 90 its best to come off unless you do yourself any harm..
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Let’s see if he’s happy with the results after 12 weeks of 250 mgs of test.
Probably win Mr. O on a gram. Ask Dorian.
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Is there something wrong with that?
Not if that is what you want to do.
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This won’t do shit for most.
You need at least 500 mgs of test and 400 mgs of Deca, at a minimum, to see any noticeable difference at your age unless you have primo genetics, which 90% of the population doesn’t. More if your gear is underdosed, which is likely with most UGL gear.
And forgot Anavar. It’s a complete waste of money. Use D-Bol or Anadrol.
AIs fuck up more guys than they help. Be careful and use only as needed.
If you’re going to cycle then do it right. Do a decent blast for 12 weeks and see what you look like. Cut back if sides become unbearable but don’t be a pussy either. This isn’t for everyone.
Running BS baby cycles are just a waste of money. You won’t get anything out of them.
Never come off. Cruise between cycles or until your bloods stabilize, which they will once you slow it up.
Hahahahaha must have poor genetics
Why stop there? Why don’t you up it to 1 gram or more of test while you are at it