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Mike doubles down on the BS
What say you, GetBig..?
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Hahahahah
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I will believe him before I believe that half foot liar Lockette.
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word around the campfire in the 90s was that he was a big time dealer...allegedly
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Mike doubles down on the BS
What say you, GetBig..?
Ashley's contemporaries are the ones that are sticking up for his natural claims, mores than Ashley himself. That includes the guy, at whose expense Ashley won the 1990 Arnold Classic, Shawn Ray.
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I'm natty too, and many don't believe me, who knows maybe Mike was natty, but I doubt it (I've heard blacks are known to lie)
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the only guy who may have been credible was Jean Paul Gilliuame.
He offered up 10k to anyone who wanted to bet and he would take any test they wanted.
No one took him up on it..
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Did you ever sell Mike gear? It wouldn’t be the first Mike to claim natty buying off of ya! Amirite!?
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Mike doubles down on the BS
What say you, GetBig..?
Well Good for Him
Would he of won the Olympia a few times with using PEDs
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People named Mike don’t take steroids. Mike Ashley, Mike Locket, Mike O,Hearn, all natties.
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Mike Ashley?? Hes never been in a gym in his life the fat bastard.
Also destroying Newcastle United
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Him and the other Mike have no shame
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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the only guy who may have been credible was Jean Paul Gilliuame.
He offered up 10k to anyone who wanted to bet and he would take any test they wanted.
No one took him up on it..
Coincidentally Mr Ashley mentions in the interview he had the same offer going. Now I'm no expert, but if you are on the right sort of gear and have a week or two to clear out then maybe it's possible to pass a specific range of tests?
Alongside that, wasn't there that 'Defend' stuff going round at the time? Aaron Baker and the 2nd WBF comp spring to mind, hmmm...?
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Oh, and did anyone else note in the vid that he claimed his natural test level was 1300 at one point, and even today at age 60 he's around 800. I wouldn't mind a bit of whatever it is that he is (definitely not) on ...
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A distinguished gentleman that used to post on this site said that prior to Ashley’s days as a bodybuilder, he was in the sport of powerlifting. As a powerlifter, Ashley NEVER mentioned being drug-free or natural. Never.
All the “I’m drug free” non-sense suddenly popped up when the IFBB announced drug testing in 1990.
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Ashley's contemporaries are the ones that are sticking up for his natural claims, mores than Ashley himself. That includes the guy, at whose expense Ashley won the 1990 Arnold Classic, Shawn Ray.
Do you believe it?
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not sure why guys hold that natty card so close to the chest for bbing/fitness modeling?
NFL, track sprinter, baseball player its cheating so i get that
its not cheating in the NPC/IFBB so who cares?
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not sure why guys hold that natty card so close to the chest for bbing/fitness modeling?
NFL, track sprinter, baseball player its cheating so i get that
its not cheating in the NPC/IFBB so who cares?
Exactly
Even tito Raymond posted on his Instagram on one of his posts that he is a lifetime natural athlete ::)
Everyone these days knows all these guys are full of it
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Did you ever sell Mike gear? It wouldn’t be the first Mike to claim natty buying off of ya! Amirite!?
:D Negative sir.
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fuck he's a POS this liar Ashley.....
He's pathetic.
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not many 20 year olds look like this drug free
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:)
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As natural as cock flavored ice cream.
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not many 20 year olds look like this drug free
Absolutely loaded up on gear.....
These fake natties are the most insecure retards in the fitness industry (and that's quiet the accomplishment).
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By Drug free he means he knew how to beat the test, many good bodybuilders did the ifbb universe back then, which was drug tested and gave out pro cards, meaning anyone wanting to compete had to prepare a certain way to beat the test, some guys looked good on test Hgh and timing your orals. Basically no oils for as much as 12 to 24 months outside of Test. Pretty hard to be honest about your use when you win a drug tested show.
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not many 20 year olds look like this drug free
Not that many 20 year olds look like 50 in the face either
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A natural liar indeed. "Ashley" looking like a gay Vince Goodrum these days.
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People named Mike don’t take steroids. Mike Ashley, Mike Locket, Mike O,Hearn, all natties.
Not to mention Mike Bloomberg ( clearly cleaning out his receptors.)
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the only guy who may have been credible was Jean Paul Gilliuame.
He offered up 10k to anyone who wanted to bet and he would take any test they wanted.
No one took him up on it..
(https://www.builtreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/jean-paul-guillaume-007.jpg)
All rice and chicken wings
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Absolutely loaded up on gear.....
These fake natties are the most insecure retards in the fitness industry (and that's quiet the accomplishment).
Insecure and lying sacks of shit. Shawn Ray won the contest and failed the drug test while this weasel pranced around bragging about his nattie status knowing all along he was loaded but just didn't get caught. He may have been smarter by passing the test IF they actually tested everyone equally which I highly doubt.
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It’s called the Jussie Smallfry Condition.
Lie. Lie. Lie.
Probably lies about not sucking cacks day-in and day-out, too.
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My breasts are natural too. :D
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Several in this thread talk about how it's possible to beat tests and guys offering to be tested anytime. No, just no.
The reason they make these kinds of "offers" is because it's not possible to make it happen from a practical standpoint. How is it going to happen, you go up to a guy and ask him to piss in a cup? Then he lets you take the cup to a lab? Lol, think about it. A real test that can be trusted and which can't be challenged requires a big organization and many impartial persons. Everyone knows these offers are never going to materialize.
Also, these idiots never really passed any tests. The IFBB is thoroughly corrupt, they never tested any samples except when they wanted to get rid of someone. The samples went straight down the drain. These "pros" definitely aren't smart enough to pass any real test, it's not about that. There is no test.
Lots of pros have said they believe this or that "natural" but these fuckers have really strange ideas about what natural means. Just some basic steroid cycles doesn't count as juicing... as in the case of early Coleman.
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Several in this thread talk about how it's possible to beat tests and guys offering to be tested anytime. No, just no.
The reason they make these kinds of "offers" is because it's not possible to make it happen from a practical standpoint. How is it going to happen, you go up to a guy and ask him to piss in a cup? Then he lets you take the cup to a lab? Lol, think about it. A real test that can be trusted and which can't be challenged requires a big organization and many impartial persons. Everyone knows these offers are never going to materialize.
Also, these idiots never really passed any tests. The IFBB is thoroughly corrupt, they never tested any samples except when they wanted to get rid of someone. The samples went straight down the drain. These "pros" definitely aren't smart enough to pass any real test, it's not about that. There is no test.
Lots of pros have said they believe this or that "natural" but these fuckers have really strange ideas about what natural means. Just some basic steroid cycles doesn't count as juicing... as in the case of early Coleman.
really?
http://www.testkitsathome.com/steroid-confirm/
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You could beat the IFBB twenty years ago because the tests weren't random they were on event day usually the weigh in the day before. From memory i remember Lee Priest failing a test at the amateur worlds I think from deca metabolites. Twenty years ago guys came from the ifbb worlds into the pros and made huge gains that first year, not because they were drug free but because beating the test the previous year required you to use a lot less and different types etc. I dont believe Priest was drug free at under 70 kilo, but he was beating the test, a few years later without testing he had grown to 92 kilo plus.
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they tested at teh 90 Olympia ,apart from Christian and Benfatto they were all way off
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I heard Vince Basile helped do the testing
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I heard Vince Basile helped do the testing
I heard He Hand Picked The Testers. 😱
😂🤣😂
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Several in this thread talk about how it's possible to beat tests and guys offering to be tested anytime. No, just no.
The reason they make these kinds of "offers" is because it's not possible to make it happen from a practical standpoint. How is it going to happen, you go up to a guy and ask him to piss in a cup? Then he lets you take the cup to a lab? Lol, think about it. A real test that can be trusted and which can't be challenged requires a big organization and many impartial persons. Everyone knows these offers are never going to materialize.
Also, these idiots never really passed any tests. The IFBB is thoroughly corrupt, they never tested any samples except when they wanted to get rid of someone. The samples went straight down the drain. These "pros" definitely aren't smart enough to pass any real test, it's not about that. There is no test.
Lots of pros have said they believe this or that "natural" but these fuckers have really strange ideas about what natural means. Just some basic steroid cycles doesn't count as juicing... as in the case of early Coleman.
Totally agree, ifbb corruption runs very deep...
And yeah ronnie was "natural" when he turned pro... The definition being he just ran some test and dbol, a couple cycles under 1000mgs a week....
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Ashley in his 60s and still lying. And saying he really beat Shawn Ray fairly in 1990. What a gigantic crap !!!!
.....Kenny K O hasn’t said anything about it yet ?
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Totally agree, ifbb corruption runs very deep...
And yeah ronnie was "natural" when he turned pro... The definition being he just ran some test and dbol, a couple cycles under 1000mgs a week....
So many industry people saying they believe these Ronnie stories, how he won his first pro show natural until Flex was kind enough to let Ronnie in on "the secret". What kind of retard are they making Ronnie out to be? I knew bodybuilding was "all drugs" when I was 9 years old ffs, and this was long before the internets :D
Someone said even Shawn said he thought Ashley was natural. Wtf, why? :D
I still remember that VHS tape where Guillaume was saying "you're supposed to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure" as to why he didn't juice. Milos said he thought Guillaume was natural for sure. No, he wasn't natural, he was just a little man :D
There haven't been any naturals on the O stage.
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So many industry people saying they believe these Ronnie stories, how he won his first pro show natural until Flex was kind enough to let Ronnie in on "the secret". What kind of retard are they making Ronnie out to be? I knew bodybuilding was "all drugs" when I was 9 years old ffs, and this was long before the internets :D
Someone said even Shawn said he thought Ashley was natural. Wtf, why? :D
I still remember that VHS tape where Guillaume was saying "you're supposed to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure" as to why he didn't juice. Milos said he thought Guillaume was natural for sure. No, he wasn't natural, he was just a little man :D
There haven't been any naturals on the O stage.
Shawn didnt even call out Mike OHearn to his face in a video I saw...
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Ashley in his 60s and still lying. And saying he really beat Shawn Ray fairly in 1990. What a gigantic crap !!!!
.....Kenny K O hasn’t said anything about it yet ?
The IFBB had to prove they were serious about testing but they couldn't fail everyone or even most competitors as it would hurt Weider's reputation so Shawn and a few others like Samir were sacrificial lambs.
It's sad that a man in his 60's is still either lying or delusional about being natural.
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So many industry people saying they believe these Ronnie stories, how he won his first pro show natural until Flex was kind enough to let Ronnie in on "the secret". What kind of retard are they making Ronnie out to be? I knew bodybuilding was "all drugs" when I was 9 years old ffs, and this was long before the internets :D
Someone said even Shawn said he thought Ashley was natural. Wtf, why? :D
I still remember that VHS tape where Guillaume was saying "you're supposed to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure" as to why he didn't juice. Milos said he thought Guillaume was natural for sure. No, he wasn't natural, he was just a little man :D
There haven't been any naturals on the O stage.
The fact that some people even remotely believe these types of claims show they have no idea whatsoever...
There is not a single natural ifbb bodybuilder pro, you cannot get even close to that size natural, even if you are a freak of freaks like Coleman or Kai Greene you need steroids to build the mass.
And there hasn't been a natty pro in at least thirty years, realistically it's probably since the 60's..... Anyone claiming otherwise is just another fake natty.
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As for shawn saying that... He clearly knows the truth ( that Ashley's a liar and fraud), I dunno what the motivation is to say he believes it...
Probably because shawn wants to keep door open for interviews, and he knows Ashley's fake natty claims will potentially get clicks in future interviews because anything bbing and drug related gets the clicks. So best for shawn to stay neutral and not burn bridges let Ashley talk his nonsense.
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I'm the only true natty
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Just imagine if he got on the sauce. No one would ever have been impressed by Ronnie Coleman!
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I'm natty and as big as Mike was
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I heard He Hand Jobbed The Testers. 😱
😂🤣😂
I heard the same thing.
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If all IFBB pros went one full year without any drugs and got on stage they would look like the schmoes in the audience.
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I'm natty too
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I'm natty too
Bro...
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Bro...
What dude?
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My breasts are natural too. :D
:) You have my full attention.
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:) You have my full attention.
Bro...
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What dude?
Bro?
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Mike Ashley you are a liar and a deceiver.
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Mike Ashley you are a liar and a deceiver.
Yeah he's a fucking piece of shit.
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I can't stand Shawn but they should give him back that Arnold cause then we'd never have to hear this fake natty fuckwits bullshit again....
At least Shawn was a legit champ.
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Yeah he's a fucking piece of shit.
Man it really hurts your feelings (all you cats that care) when someone looks infinitely better than you and won’t give you the satisfaction of saying well he’s on drugs.??
You guys think having shredded abs and good definition all over is just unattainable??
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My breasts are natural too. :D
;D
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Man it really hurts your feelings (all you cats that care) when someone looks infinitely better than you and won’t give you the satisfaction of saying well he’s on drugs.??
You guys think having shredded abs and good definition all over is just unattainable??
I'm talking about mike Ashley I don't know what your talking about?
I was on drugs and Ashley was on drugs and he looked way better, so what.??... That's got nothing to do with Ashley being a liar, underserving Arnold champ.
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I'm talking about mike Ashley I don't know what your talking about?
I was on drugs and Ashley was on drugs and he looked way better, so what.??... That's got nothing to do with Ashley being a liar, underserving Arnold champ.
Exactly, taking the tittle from Shawn Ray and giving it to Mike Ashley has been the biggest joke in BB history
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Update: Mike Ashley has just confirmed that he also had a 24" schl0ng... (and is still packing 21.5")
He's offering $10k to anyone that can prove he's lying...
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Man it really hurts your feelings (all you cats that care) when someone looks infinitely better than you and won’t give you the satisfaction of saying well he’s on drugs.??
You guys think having shredded abs and good definition all over is just unattainable??
Shredded abs and good definition all over WHILE MAINTAINING A LARGE AMOUNT OF MASS is impossible for natties. Mike Ashley was and is a liar.
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I think it's possible, he had good genetics (https://i.redd.it/4rcv9man95w31.png)
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I think it's possible, he had good genetics (https://i.redd.it/4rcv9man95w31.png)
Bro....
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once again 20 year old bloated fuk
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I take it all back - Mr Ashley was clearly natural in this picture...
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/17016108_825511520920598_2737088794137987184_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=e007fa&_nc_ohc=olJ0wKBfg-4AX8luuua&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=7baa393ab66f167c342656cfb55efc43&oe=5EA7AB9E)
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There's a relatively new guy on YouTube making bodybuilding videos, Mark Max Muscle (I think that's right?), who has an entertaining delivery. His vocal inflections and such make him sound like a catsuit insane Canuck version of Vincent Price, and based on that alone I can get a laugh outta watching his stuff. It's much better than Nick "duh, hey you guys, let me continuously repeat myself all monotonal-like about a bunch of bullshit stats I just looked up about a bodybuilder 'by the name of'..." Strength and Power.
That said, Vincent Max genuinely thought Mike Ashley was natty, and some of his nuthuggers jumped in to defend his take, pointing out that Ronnie was "natty" when he turned pro. Anyone who disagrees just doesn't know what a genetically blessed person looks like with a few weights, grape drank and Jamaican food, right? :D
I'm almost certain Ashley admitted to using shit to someone, somewhere, even if it was one of those lame "I took one CC six weeks out!" claims. Does anyone know what I'm blathering about?
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I take it all back - Mr Ashley was clearly natural in this picture...
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s960x960/17016108_825511520920598_2737088794137987184_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=e007fa&_nc_ohc=olJ0wKBfg-4AX8luuua&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=7baa393ab66f167c342656cfb55efc43&oe=5EA7AB9E)
This picture is very refreshing. Way too many people jump on the gear too early without properly building a natural base during the first few years of training like Mr. Ashley.
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Man it really hurts your feelings (all you cats that care) when someone looks infinitely better than you and won’t give you the satisfaction of saying well he’s on drugs.??
You guys think having shredded abs and good definition all over is just unattainable??
Hi Mike.
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How old is he now? If he looked that good natural there is no reason to believe he still wouldn't have a decent physique in his early 60's. I bet he doesn't.
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:)
Natural every other day
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There's a relatively new guy on YouTube making bodybuilding videos, Mark Max Muscle (I think that's right?), who has an entertaining delivery. His vocal inflections and such make him sound like a catsuit insane Canuck version of Vincent Price, and based on that alone I can get a laugh outta watching his stuff. It's much better than Nick "duh, hey you guys, let me continuously repeat myself all monotonal-like about a bunch of bullshit stats I just looked up about a bodybuilder 'by the name of'..." Strength and Power.
That said, Vincent Max genuinely thought Mike Ashley was natty, and some of his nuthuggers jumped in to defend his take, pointing out that Ronnie was "natty" when he turned pro. Anyone who disagrees just doesn't know what a genetically blessed person looks like with a few weights, grape drank and Jamaican food, right? :D
I'm almost certain Ashley admitted to using shit to someone, somewhere, even if it was one of those lame "I took one CC six weeks out!" claims. Does anyone know what I'm blathering about?
I don't know who this Vincent guy is but the question in my mind is are they sincere in what they are saying? I suspect that there are people arguing for things they know to be false, that's when it really gets infuriating. Like with Ronnie being natural or Ashley or Guillaume or Mike O'Hearn or whoever. What's in it for them? Some of them probably think they are doing some kind of favor for newbies or protecting the innocent. There are some really high level industry people arguing for these things and they are pure scum in my opinion :D
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How old is he now? If he looked that good natural there is no reason to believe he still wouldn't have a decent physique in his early 60's. I bet he doesn't.
HE DOSEN'T
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I don't know who this Vincent guy is but the question in my mind is are they sincere in what they are saying? I suspect that there are people arguing for things they know to be false, that's when it really gets infuriating. Like with Ronnie being natural or Ashley or Guillaume or Mike O'Hearn or whoever. What's in it for them? Some of them probably think they are doing some kind of favor for newbies or protecting the innocent. There are some really high level industry people arguing for these things and they are pure scum in my opinion :D
I agree...Lyin sons o bitches...
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English is not my first language, but "natural" is writen the same in portuguese. The diference is that in portuguese it means one doesn't uses steroids and any hormones.
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once again 20 year old bloated fuk
Genetics of peace
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Genetics of peace
Bro...