Author Topic: Mike Ashley - "I was all natural"... (Read 8773 times)

honest · « **Reply #25 on:** February 24, 2020, 10:12:54 PM »

By Drug free he means he knew how to beat the test, many good bodybuilders did the ifbb universe back then, which was drug tested and gave out pro cards, meaning anyone wanting to compete had to prepare a certain way to beat the test, some guys looked good on test Hgh and timing your orals. Basically no oils for as much as 12 to 24 months outside of Test. Pretty hard to be honest about your use when you win a drug tested show.

Bevo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 25, 2020, 12:04:13 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on February 24, 2020, 07:01:28 PM

not many 20 year olds look like this drug free

Not that many 20 year olds look like 50 in the face either

m8 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 25, 2020, 03:00:16 AM »

A natural liar indeed. "Ashley" looking like a gay Vince Goodrum these days.

JAGO · « **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2020, 03:05:51 AM »

Quote from: V Man on February 24, 2020, 02:47:29 PM

People named Mike don’t take steroids. Mike Ashley, Mike Locket, Mike O,Hearn, all natties.

Not to mention Mike Bloomberg ( clearly cleaning out his receptors.)

J

m8 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 25, 2020, 04:13:01 AM »

Quote from: joswift on February 24, 2020, 02:37:40 PM

the only guy who may have been credible was Jean Paul Gilliuame.
He offered up 10k to anyone who wanted to bet and he would take any test they wanted.
No one took him up on it..

All rice and chicken wings

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2020, 05:14:19 AM »

Quote from: harmankardon1 on February 24, 2020, 08:41:03 PM

Absolutely loaded up on gear.....

These fake natties are the most insecure retards in the fitness industry (and that's quiet the accomplishment).

Insecure and lying sacks of shit. Shawn Ray won the contest and failed the drug test while this weasel pranced around bragging about his nattie status knowing all along he was loaded but just didn't get caught. He may have been smarter by passing the test IF they actually tested everyone equally which I highly doubt.

Fortress · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2020, 10:38:00 AM »

It’s called the Jussie Smallfry Condition.

Lie. Lie. Lie.

Probably lies about not sucking cacks day-in and day-out, too.

booty · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2020, 08:26:07 PM »

My breasts are natural too.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #33 on:** February 25, 2020, 10:04:16 PM »

Several in this thread talk about how it's possible to beat tests and guys offering to be tested anytime. No, just no.
The reason they make these kinds of "offers" is because it's not possible to make it happen from a practical standpoint. How is it going to happen, you go up to a guy and ask him to piss in a cup? Then he lets you take the cup to a lab? Lol, think about it. A real test that can be trusted and which can't be challenged requires a big organization and many impartial persons. Everyone knows these offers are never going to materialize.

Also, these idiots never really passed any tests. The IFBB is thoroughly corrupt, they never tested any samples except when they wanted to get rid of someone. The samples went straight down the drain. These "pros" definitely aren't smart enough to pass any real test, it's not about that. There is no test.

Lots of pros have said they believe this or that "natural" but these fuckers have really strange ideas about what natural means. Just some basic steroid cycles doesn't count as juicing... as in the case of early Coleman.

joswift · « **Reply #34 on:** February 25, 2020, 10:11:35 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 25, 2020, 10:04:16 PM

Several in this thread talk about how it's possible to beat tests and guys offering to be tested anytime. No, just no.
The reason they make these kinds of "offers" is because it's not possible to make it happen from a practical standpoint. How is it going to happen, you go up to a guy and ask him to piss in a cup? Then he lets you take the cup to a lab? Lol, think about it. A real test that can be trusted and which can't be challenged requires a big organization and many impartial persons. Everyone knows these offers are never going to materialize.

Also, these idiots never really passed any tests. The IFBB is thoroughly corrupt, they never tested any samples except when they wanted to get rid of someone. The samples went straight down the drain. These "pros" definitely aren't smart enough to pass any real test, it's not about that. There is no test.

Lots of pros have said they believe this or that "natural" but these fuckers have really strange ideas about what natural means. Just some basic steroid cycles doesn't count as juicing... as in the case of early Coleman.

really?
http://www.testkitsathome.com/steroid-confirm/

honest · « **Reply #35 on:** February 25, 2020, 10:34:18 PM »

You could beat the IFBB twenty years ago because the tests weren't random they were on event day usually the weigh in the day before. From memory i remember Lee Priest failing a test at the amateur worlds I think from deca metabolites. Twenty years ago guys came from the ifbb worlds into the pros and made huge gains that first year, not because they were drug free but because beating the test the previous year required you to use a lot less and different types etc. I dont believe Priest was drug free at under 70 kilo, but he was beating the test, a few years later without testing he had grown to 92 kilo plus.

joswift · « **Reply #36 on:** February 25, 2020, 10:46:28 PM »

they tested at teh 90 Olympia ,apart from Christian and Benfatto they were all way off

Bevo · « **Reply #37 on:** February 25, 2020, 11:01:29 PM »

I heard Vince Basile helped do the testing

illuminati · « **Reply #38 on:** February 25, 2020, 11:12:08 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on February 25, 2020, 11:01:29 PM

I heard Vince Basile helped do the testing

I heard He Hand Picked The Testers. 😱

😂🤣😂

harmankardon1 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 25, 2020, 11:12:47 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 25, 2020, 10:04:16 PM

Several in this thread talk about how it's possible to beat tests and guys offering to be tested anytime. No, just no.
The reason they make these kinds of "offers" is because it's not possible to make it happen from a practical standpoint. How is it going to happen, you go up to a guy and ask him to piss in a cup? Then he lets you take the cup to a lab? Lol, think about it. A real test that can be trusted and which can't be challenged requires a big organization and many impartial persons. Everyone knows these offers are never going to materialize.

Also, these idiots never really passed any tests. The IFBB is thoroughly corrupt, they never tested any samples except when they wanted to get rid of someone. The samples went straight down the drain. These "pros" definitely aren't smart enough to pass any real test, it's not about that. There is no test.

Lots of pros have said they believe this or that "natural" but these fuckers have really strange ideas about what natural means. Just some basic steroid cycles doesn't count as juicing... as in the case of early Coleman.

Totally agree, ifbb corruption runs very deep...

And yeah ronnie was "natural" when he turned pro... The definition being he just ran some test and dbol, a couple cycles under 1000mgs a week....

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #40 on:** February 26, 2020, 04:27:09 AM »

Ashley in his 60s and still lying. And saying he really beat Shawn Ray fairly in 1990. What a gigantic crap !!!!

.....Kenny K O hasn’t said anything about it yet ?

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #41 on:** February 26, 2020, 04:41:35 AM »

Quote from: harmankardon1 on February 25, 2020, 11:12:47 PM

Totally agree, ifbb corruption runs very deep...

And yeah ronnie was "natural" when he turned pro... The definition being he just ran some test and dbol, a couple cycles under 1000mgs a week....

So many industry people saying they believe these Ronnie stories, how he won his first pro show natural until Flex was kind enough to let Ronnie in on "the secret". What kind of retard are they making Ronnie out to be? I knew bodybuilding was "all drugs" when I was 9 years old ffs, and this was long before the internets

Someone said even Shawn said he thought Ashley was natural. Wtf, why?

I still remember that VHS tape where Guillaume was saying "you're supposed to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure" as to why he didn't juice. Milos said he thought Guillaume was natural for sure. No, he wasn't natural, he was just a little man

There haven't been any naturals on the O stage.

joswift · « **Reply #42 on:** February 26, 2020, 04:47:56 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 26, 2020, 04:41:35 AM

So many industry people saying they believe these Ronnie stories, how he won his first pro show natural until Flex was kind enough to let Ronnie in on "the secret". What kind of retard are they making Ronnie out to be? I knew bodybuilding was "all drugs" when I was 9 years old ffs, and this was long before the internets

Someone said even Shawn said he thought Ashley was natural. Wtf, why?

I still remember that VHS tape where Guillaume was saying "you're supposed to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure" as to why he didn't juice. Milos said he thought Guillaume was natural for sure. No, he wasn't natural, he was just a little man
There haven't been any naturals on the O stage.

Shawn didnt even call out Mike OHearn to his face in a video I saw...

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #43 on:** February 26, 2020, 04:57:22 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on February 26, 2020, 04:27:09 AM

Ashley in his 60s and still lying. And saying he really beat Shawn Ray fairly in 1990. What a gigantic crap !!!!

.....Kenny K O hasn’t said anything about it yet ?

The IFBB had to prove they were serious about testing but they couldn't fail everyone or even most competitors as it would hurt Weider's reputation so Shawn and a few others like Samir were sacrificial lambs.

It's sad that a man in his 60's is still either lying or delusional about being natural.

harmankardon1 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 26, 2020, 05:00:43 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 26, 2020, 04:41:35 AM

So many industry people saying they believe these Ronnie stories, how he won his first pro show natural until Flex was kind enough to let Ronnie in on "the secret". What kind of retard are they making Ronnie out to be? I knew bodybuilding was "all drugs" when I was 9 years old ffs, and this was long before the internets

Someone said even Shawn said he thought Ashley was natural. Wtf, why?

I still remember that VHS tape where Guillaume was saying "you're supposed to have low blood pressure, not high blood pressure" as to why he didn't juice. Milos said he thought Guillaume was natural for sure. No, he wasn't natural, he was just a little man
There haven't been any naturals on the O stage.

The fact that some people even remotely believe these types of claims show they have no idea whatsoever...

There is not a single natural ifbb bodybuilder pro, you cannot get even close to that size natural, even if you are a freak of freaks like Coleman or Kai Greene you need steroids to build the mass.

And there hasn't been a natty pro in at least thirty years, realistically it's probably since the 60's..... Anyone claiming otherwise is just another fake natty.

harmankardon1 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 26, 2020, 05:04:36 AM »

As for shawn saying that... He clearly knows the truth ( that Ashley's a liar and fraud), I dunno what the motivation is to say he believes it...

Probably because shawn wants to keep door open for interviews, and he knows Ashley's fake natty claims will potentially get clicks in future interviews because anything bbing and drug related gets the clicks. So best for shawn to stay neutral and not burn bridges let Ashley talk his nonsense.

pamith · « **Reply #46 on:** March 15, 2020, 07:37:11 PM »

I'm the only true natty

Mothballs · « **Reply #47 on:** March 15, 2020, 07:52:38 PM »

Just imagine if he got on the sauce. No one would ever have been impressed by Ronnie Coleman!

pamith · « **Reply #48 on:** March 15, 2020, 08:04:18 PM »

I'm natty and as big as Mike was

hazbin · « **Reply #49 on:** March 15, 2020, 10:48:04 PM »