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Title: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 18, 2006, 02:17:27 PM
Seriously, they know what they did.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: midknight on April 18, 2006, 02:19:59 PM
share ???
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: BayGBM on April 18, 2006, 02:21:05 PM
Rusty is finished!  Being openly gay friendly (he’s actually straight) is the kiss of death in body building.   ;D
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Dan-O on April 18, 2006, 02:22:11 PM
Like I said in another thread that got deleted...  Rusty looked awesome for any bodybuilding show, period.  There would've been little disagreement if he'd won the whole thing.

You could argue that Bob Chick was in better condition than Rusty, because judging from the pics, he was.  I honestly believe Chick deserved to win, although it was certainly not a landslide victory by any means.

But putting Jeffers in 8th place?  It sure looks like the powers-that-be were trying to send him some kind of message.  Exactly what the message was isn't so clear, but come on!!  He looked way better than most of the guys who placed higher than him.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: brianX on April 18, 2006, 02:29:09 PM
Rusty is finished!  Being openly gay friendly (he’s actually straight) is the kiss of death in body building.   ;D

BULLSHIT. There is no way he's straight.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Sir William Idol on April 18, 2006, 02:32:26 PM

You could argue that Bob Chick was in better condition than Rusty, because judging from the pics, he was. 


nah
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: haider on April 18, 2006, 02:37:19 PM
Rusty is finished!  Being openly gay friendly (he’s actually straight) is the kiss of death in body building.   ;D
he does gay porn, how the hell can he still be straight?
Though I may have heard that he has a wife  ???
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Karl Kox on April 18, 2006, 02:39:12 PM
Seriously, they know what they did.


You Goddamn right they do
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: rckpytn on April 18, 2006, 02:40:57 PM
i've met him before, and he does have a wife. he seemed straight to me
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: 240 is Back on April 18, 2006, 02:44:11 PM
you guys ever eat bunny rabbit"?
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: timfogarty on April 18, 2006, 02:47:22 PM
he does gay porn, how the hell can he still be straight?

He's done nudes and solo j/o.  never done porn with another person

Quote
Though I may have heard that he has a wife  ???

and a teen age daughter
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: haider on April 18, 2006, 02:53:45 PM
thanks for the clarification, though if u'd listened to him on the fitshow u'd think he's gay without even hearing abt his nude photo shoots and w/e. I actually heard abt him first on the fitshow, then someone mentioned here after the Masters that he does gay porn, so I didnt think he(vince) could be lying abt that.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: LuciusFox on April 18, 2006, 03:16:58 PM
Seriously, they know what they did.

  Bodybuilding is not a sport and we should probably stop expecting it to be. I know that sounds grim, but it's the truth.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Naked4Jesus on April 18, 2006, 03:21:05 PM
Those little girls owe him more than an apology they owe him a check!  He should have placed in the money for sure.  It's all about gettin' paid!
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: LuciusFox on April 18, 2006, 03:22:16 PM
Those little girls owe him more than an apology they him a check!  He should have placed in the money for sure.  It's all about gettin' paid!

  Bodybuilding is not a sport so competitors cannot always expect reasonable treatment.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on April 18, 2006, 03:28:47 PM
I think Rusty looks awesome, but this board is messed up.  I would be willing to bet if Chick was not in the show (thus eliminating the girl drama), and Jeffers somehow came out on top, I would be hearing a different tune.  It would be an outrage of a "gay for pay homo that eats at the all you can eat juice and nubain buffet" winning the show.  Some of you guys need to give the shit a rest....
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: LuciusFox on April 18, 2006, 03:32:34 PM
I think Rusty looks awesome, but this board is messed up.  I would be willing to bet if Chick was not in the show (thus eliminating the girl drama), and Jeffers somehow came out on top, I would be hearing a different tune.  It would be an outrage of a "gay for pay homo that eats at the all you can eat juice and nubain buffet" winning the show.  Some of you guys need to give the shit a rest....

  You hit the nail on the head. If Rusty had won, people would be crying about how the sport lacks legitimacy because someone involved with porn has won a contest. Then someone would say, "You don't see Barry Bonds or Michael Jordan in porn, do you?" ::)
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 18, 2006, 03:41:57 PM

You could argue that Bob Chick was in better condition than Rusty, because judging from the pics, he was. 


Which pics were you looking at?

Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: SDMF on April 18, 2006, 03:47:32 PM
I think Rusty looks awesome, but this board is messed up.  I would be willing to bet if Chick was not in the show (thus eliminating the girl drama), and Jeffers somehow came out on top, I would be hearing a different tune.  It would be an outrage of a "gay for pay homo that eats at the all you can eat juice and nubain buffet" winning the show.  Some of you guys need to give the shit a rest....

WHERE IS THIS JUICE AND NUBAIN BAR YOU SPEAK OF!?!?!?!?! :P
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 18, 2006, 03:48:24 PM
Maybe Rusty can file a complaint with the IFBB athlete's representative.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Dan-O on April 18, 2006, 03:48:47 PM
Durrrrr, I've gone 40 years without needing glasses but maybe this is a sign it's finally time to go & get my eyes checked!!

I seem to recall seeing some shots from the back and Jeffers looked a bit soft, like he was holding some water.  I know it's subjective because Chick wasn't exactly "hard as nails" himself.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 18, 2006, 04:21:37 PM
Durrrrr, I've gone 40 years without needing glasses but maybe this is a sign it's finally time to go & get my eyes checked!!

I seem to recall seeing some shots from the back and Jeffers looked a bit soft, like he was holding some water.  I know it's subjective because Chick wasn't exactly "hard as nails" himself.

Subjectivity aside, no one can look at these pics "objectively" and not see that Rusty was in waaaaaay better condition.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 18, 2006, 04:25:03 PM


I seem to recall seeing some shots from the back and Jeffers looked a bit soft, like he was holding some water.  I know it's subjective because Chick wasn't exactly "hard as nails" himself.

I don't mean to rub it in, but c'mon!
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: bmacsys on April 18, 2006, 04:52:30 PM
he does gay porn, how the hell can he still be straight?
Though I may have heard that he has a wife  ???

Having a wife doesn't mean shit. Rock Hudson was married. So was Elton John.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 18, 2006, 05:35:35 PM
Seriously, they know what they did.
that would admit they're a flawed federation
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 18, 2006, 05:41:01 PM
Having a wife doesn't mean shit. Rock Hudson was married. So was Elton John.

...so is Joe Wieder
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: LuciusFox on April 18, 2006, 06:26:50 PM
Having a wife doesn't mean shit. Rock Hudson was married. So was Elton John.

 So do you ::)
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: TooPowerful4u on April 18, 2006, 06:45:24 PM
From what i was told he had fat on his ass and upper hams, if he was as conditioned as bob he would have won. 
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: ssparty on April 18, 2006, 07:29:57 PM
Rusty is finished!  Being openly gay friendly (he’s actually straight) is the kiss of death in body building.   ;D
gay friendly?  gay friendly as in gay porn star friendly?  come on, tell us Bay, how many carl hardwick vids do you own?
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Has Beens on April 18, 2006, 07:43:50 PM
Having a wife doesn't mean shit. Rock Hudson was married. So was Elton John.
Somebody`s been watching the Sopranos !
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 18, 2006, 08:34:35 PM
Any word on the IFBB athlete rep's response to Rusty's complaint?
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: 240 is Back on April 18, 2006, 09:08:29 PM
Any word on the IFBB athlete rep's response to Rusty's complaint?

No, but the athlete's rep's girlfriend may delete your post if she doesn't like what you say.

how do you like that... a biased angry mod's girlfriend can make deletions...
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Billy Rosewood on April 18, 2006, 09:09:12 PM
No, but the athlete's rep's girlfriend may delete your post if she doesn't like what you say.

how do you like that... a biased angry mod's girlfriend can make deletions...


Check "her" for an adam's apple.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Palpatine Q on April 18, 2006, 09:10:26 PM
gay friendly?  gay friendly as in gay porn star friendly?  come on, tell us Bay, how many carl hardwick vids do you own?

Carl HARD-WICK   Oh brother, what a name.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on April 18, 2006, 09:51:47 PM
Gotta tell ya, after looking at these comparison pics for the first time, I've got to retract my statement in another thread about Bob should have won, but Rusty CLEARLY kicked Bob's butt!
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: LuciusFox on April 19, 2006, 09:30:23 AM
Gotta tell ya, after looking at these comparison pics for the first time, I've got to retract my statement in another thread about Bob should have won, but Rusty CLEARLY kicked Bob's butt!

 Bodybuilding shows aren't judged on pictures any more than movies are judged on stills ::)
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: bmacsys on April 19, 2006, 05:58:14 PM
So do you ::)


Wow, great comeback bro ::)
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: bmacsys on April 19, 2006, 05:59:16 PM

Wow, great comeback bro ::) Talk to me again when you lose your virginity.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: LuciusFox on April 19, 2006, 06:01:44 PM

Wow, great comeback bro ::)

  It wasn't a comeback. If you are going to say that marriage is meaningless when wondering about someone's heterosexuality, someone could say the same about you. As to your second comeback, that might have worked if this were still the 80s and we were both in high school ::)
Title: The Rusty Jeffers Bandwagon
Post by: bigmo6891 on April 19, 2006, 07:59:33 PM
it seems that everyone here hopped on the rusty bandwagon...... i mean he should have won... but damn ya'll are takin it a little too serious
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: 240 is Back on April 19, 2006, 08:26:57 PM
Yeah, the BBing fans of the world are really making the point that IFBB judging needs to be reformed.


(http://www.240fm.com/clown.gif)
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: brianX on April 19, 2006, 08:28:16 PM
IFBB "judging" has always been a joke.
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 19, 2006, 08:32:11 PM
it's the fact that Rusty wasn't given due process. Given the quality of his physique on that stage, his callouts were unfair and clearly biased. The fact that Bob Cicherillo was given one single callout and that there was no final callout between the top runners at the end of prejudging goes against the required due process of an IFBB bodybuilding contest. It's the same as in a  court room where the defendant isn't granted his rights. When proper process is not followed in any area of a criminal trial, the results are tainted and the verdict is dismissed. A bodybuilding contest is much of the same vein. It just makes the whole contest look like a sham - much like a trial where rules of procedure and gathering evidence are broken. Sure Bob deserved to win - but what does it say of his victory if he won a contest that ignored the rules?
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: SLYY on April 19, 2006, 08:48:03 PM
Because he should have placed either 1st or 2nd.....
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 20, 2006, 03:54:25 AM
it's the fact that Rusty wasn't given due process. Given the quality of his physique on that stage, his callouts were unfair and clearly biased. The fact that Bob Cicherillo was given one single callout and that there was no final callout between the top runners at the end of prejudging goes against the required due process of an IFBB bodybuilding contest. It's the same as in a  court room where the defendant isn't granted his rights. When proper process is not followed in any area of a criminal trial, the results are tainted and the verdict is dismissed. A bodybuilding contest is much of the same vein. It just makes the whole contest look like a sham - much like a trial where rules of procedure and gathering evidence are broken. Sure Bob deserved to win - but what does it say of his victory if he won a contest that ignored the rules?
excellent thought
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: LuciusFox on April 20, 2006, 04:21:31 AM
it's the fact that Rusty wasn't given due process. Given the quality of his physique on that stage, his callouts were unfair and clearly biased. The fact that Bob Cicherillo was given one single callout and that there was no final callout between the top runners at the end of prejudging goes against the required due process of an IFBB bodybuilding contest. It's the same as in a  court room where the defendant isn't granted his rights. When proper process is not followed in any area of a criminal trial, the results are tainted and the verdict is dismissed. A bodybuilding contest is much of the same vein. It just makes the whole contest look like a sham - much like a trial where rules of procedure and gathering evidence are broken. Sure Bob deserved to win - but what does it say of his victory if he won a contest that ignored the rules?

 Hahahahaha, you're taking bodybuilding way too seriously. It has as much "due process" as a beauty contest. I could understand if it was a real sport where the officials were expected to follow rules, but it's not. Victories in bodybuilding contests are often controversial, just like beauty contests ::)
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 20, 2006, 06:54:22 AM
Hahahahaha, you're taking bodybuilding way too seriously. It has as much "due process" as a beauty contest. I could understand if it was a real sport where the officials were expected to follow rules, but it's not. Victories in bodybuilding contests are often controversial, just like beauty contests ::)

u got that right, local beauty contests at that.  miss america contest has much more integrity that shows like bodybuilding.
Title: Re: why is everybody riding rusty's dick
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on April 20, 2006, 06:57:52 AM
Hahahahaha, you're taking bodybuilding way too seriously. It has as much "due process" as a beauty contest. I could understand if it was a real sport where the officials were expected to follow rules, but it's not. Victories in bodybuilding contests are often controversial, just like beauty contests ::)

The most accurate quote of this thread!
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 20, 2006, 07:03:52 AM
its the idea of standard procedure - when they gave Bob the win, they didn't even go through the motions - they abreviated the whole process and the contests integrity was lost along the way . . .
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 20, 2006, 07:34:10 AM
the IFBB has no integrity  so dont expect a quality standard to maintain
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: LuciusFox on April 20, 2006, 10:07:20 AM
the IFBB has no integrity  so dont expect a quality standard to maintain

  Exactly. During the last Olympia, Gustavo wasn't even compared to Jay and Ronnie (supposedly). If that's true, why complain about this minor contest? Not comparing athletes is like not having teams play each other and just evaluating them on how they last looked in practice.
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 20, 2006, 10:13:48 AM
  Exactly. During the last Olympia, Gustavo wasn't even compared to Jay and Ronnie (supposedly). If that's true, why complain about this minor contest? Not comparing athletes is like not having teams play each other and just evaluating them on how they last looked in practice.

Gustavo wasnt compared to Ronnie and Jay becuase he isn't in their league. He only beat Gunter in the final round because he "won" the challenge round. Badell needs to lose the attitude and get a reality check - you'd thing the ASC would have set him straight . . .

As for the Masters - Rusty IS in Bob Chick's league and should have been compared to him instead of swept under the rug into 8th - he deserved top comparisons - Badell did not
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 20, 2006, 10:15:27 AM
i hope chick does the olympia and proves all the clowns wrong
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: LuciusFox on April 20, 2006, 10:16:21 AM
Gustavo wasnt compared to Ronnie and Jay becuase he isn't in their league. He only beat Gunter in the final round because he "won" the challenge round. Badell needs to lose the attitude and get a reality check - you'd thing the ASC would have set him straight . . .

As for the Masters - Rusty IS in Bob Chick's league and should have been compared to him instead of swept under the rug into 8th - he deserved top comparisons - Badell did not

  That's the problem with making a judgment that someone is out of someone else's league without comparing them. A judge may have glanced at Rusty and decided he was not in Bob's league.
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 20, 2006, 09:58:31 PM
 That's the problem with making a judgment that someone is out of someone else's league without comparing them. A judge may have glanced at Rusty and decided he was not in Bob's league.

I can appreciate that and you're prolly right. I guess I just don't like Badell very much . . .

(http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Gustavo_Badell_bodybuilder_Pro_IFBB.jpg)
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: LuciusFox on April 20, 2006, 10:01:49 PM
I can appreciate that and you're prolly right. I guess I just don't like Badell very much . . .

(http://i.b5z.net/i/u/230085/i/Gustavo_Badell_bodybuilder_Pro_IFBB.jpg)
 
 
    What's the matter, you don't like his gut? ;D We need to do what politicians do, and put a spin on the whole gut thing. We need to rename the gut and try to make it sound like a good thing. Perhaps we could call it a sign of sturdiness?
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Wombat on April 20, 2006, 10:11:08 PM
Having a wife doesn't mean shit. Rock Hudson was married. So was Elton John.

Rock Hudson wasn't gay...That was a cover up...He died from using the real HGH which in fact gave him a brain tumor :-\
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on April 21, 2006, 05:40:03 AM
Rock Hudson wasn't gay...That was a cover up...He died from using the real HGH which in fact gave him a brain tumor :-\

What a coincidence - the same thing is often blamed for Lyle Alzado's death... :o

What's funny about the Alzado situation is that if you research the symptoms of the disease people got from cadaver HGH, it's obvious that Alzado did not die from the Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. He went public with his "brain cancer", and managed to suffer (while keeping a pretty high profile, giving interviews on tv, etc) publicly for a prolonged period of time before dying.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 21, 2006, 05:51:54 AM
What a coincidence - the same thing is often blamed for Lyle Alzado's death... :o

What's funny about the Alzado situation is that if you research the symptoms of the disease people got from cadaver HGH, it's obvious that Alzado did not die from the Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. He went public with his "brain cancer", and managed to suffer (while keeping a pretty high profile, giving interviews on tv, etc) publicly for a prolonged period of time before dying.
Capitalism suxs. :-*
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: shortfatugly on April 21, 2006, 05:56:45 AM
What a coincidence - the same thing is often blamed for Lyle Alzado's death... :o

What's funny about the Alzado situation is that if you research the symptoms of the disease people got from cadaver HGH, it's obvious that Alzado did not die from the Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. He went public with his "brain cancer", and managed to suffer (while keeping a pretty high profile, giving interviews on tv, etc) publicly for a prolonged period of time before dying.

It's pretty much taken for granted that Alzado died from complication of HIV/AIDS.  Whether he was closet bisexual or simply shared dirty needles hardly matters.  He did not die from CJD or steroids.  ONly the most uneduated, naive or ignorant persons (or LuciousFox) believes that steroids caused his death...LOL..:D

j/k LF-
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 21, 2006, 06:01:09 AM
It's pretty much taken for granted that Alzado died from complication of HIV/AIDS.  Whether he was closet bisexual or simply shared dirty needles hardly matters.  He did not die from CJD or steroids.  ONly the most uneduated, naive or ignorant persons (or LuciousFox) believes that steroids caused his death...LOL..:D LF-

agreed, this is the 10th thread on alzedo and the cause of death  :)
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on April 21, 2006, 06:01:59 AM
Capitalism suxs. :-*

Of course it does, Sport, of course it does. I guess communism is King, right?... ;D
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 21, 2006, 06:21:00 AM
Of course it does, Sport, of course it does. I guess communism is King, right?... ;D
I just wanted to see what Gordon Gekko would say ;D
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on April 21, 2006, 07:10:48 AM
It's pretty much taken for granted that Alzado died from complication of HIV/AIDS.  Whether he was closet bisexual or simply shared dirty needles hardly matters.  He did not die from CJD or steroids.  ONly the most uneduated, naive or ignorant persons (or LuciousFox) believes that steroids caused his death...LOL..:D

j/k LF-

Agreed. Wasn't it a typically AIDS-related lymphoma or sarcoma that killed him? Of course the media and the general public seemingly couldn't (or wouldn't) make the connection at the time.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: MisterGX on April 21, 2006, 01:03:16 PM
Which pics were you looking at?



Looking at the same pics you & everyone else is looking at.  From the consensus of a few people who attended the show, Russ needed a week more of conditioning.  Some said that nothing was happening when he posed.  The shape, size, & overall structure were there--but the conditioning was a little off.  In these two pics, Chick is in better condition than Russ.
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: onlyme on April 21, 2006, 01:05:26 PM
The IFBB owes allot of people an apology
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: timfogarty on April 21, 2006, 01:11:10 PM
What's funny about the Alzado situation is that if you research the symptoms of the disease people got from cadaver HGH, it's obvious that Alzado did not die from the Creutzfeld-Jakob disease.

No one at the time ever claimed it was CJD.  He just called it brain cancer, and people not in the know assumed he meant a brain tumor, which was his intent, to mislead.

He died of AIDS related lymphoma.   It was common knowledge at the time that thats what it was.

btw, sleeping with a girl once or twice long long ago does not make you bisexual.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: shortfatugly on April 21, 2006, 01:44:21 PM
No one at the time ever claimed it was CJD.  He just called it brain cancer, and people not in the know assumed he meant a brain tumor, which was his intent, to mislead.

He died of AIDS related lymphoma.   It was common knowledge at the time that thats what it was.

btw, sleeping with a girl once or twice long long ago does not make you bisexual.

So are you saying that you are 100% homosexual? 

or are you referring to LA?
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on April 21, 2006, 01:46:09 PM
No one at the time ever claimed it was CJD.  He just called it brain cancer, and people not in the know assumed he meant a brain tumor, which was his intent, to mislead.

He died of AIDS related lymphoma.   It was common knowledge at the time that thats what it was.

btw, sleeping with a girl once or twice long long ago does not make you bisexual.

Maybe no one claimed it was CJD at the time, but you still see people on message boards claim that it was HGH that killed him. I'm not a doctor or anything, but CJD is the only actual documented cause of death I've ever heard of related to HGH. But maybe there are other documented causes of death linked to cadaver GH - I certainly don't claim to be a medical expert.

I do agree with your last comment. As I'm sure you're aware, Alzado's double life went far beyond "sleeping with a girl once or twice long ago" . Like many "down low" types, he was actually married and had a kid. Of course I have no first hand knowledge of his alleged homosexuality. But from what I've seen time and time again in life, rumors which are so rampant and persistent usually have at least some truth behind them.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: shortfatugly on April 21, 2006, 01:46:51 PM
Agreed. Wasn't it a typically AIDS-related lymphoma or sarcoma that killed him? Of course the media and the general public seemingly couldn't (or wouldn't) make the connection at the time.

I think that he wanted a last fling at the limelight so he became the poster boy for anti steroids crusade.  

It was like everything else: front page news, page one splash, then weeks later,  section E retraction, in a side panel under the obituaries.  
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on April 21, 2006, 01:49:23 PM
I think that he wanted a last fling at the limelight so he became the poster boy for anti steroids crusade.  

It was like everything else: front page news, page one splash, then weeks later,  section E retraction, in a side panel under the obituaries.  

I'm sure he also wanted to avoid the AIDS stigma, which was far less compassionate then than it is now. Back then, many more people saw it as an exclusively "gay" disease.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: shortfatugly on April 21, 2006, 01:52:50 PM
I'm sure he also wanted to avoid the AIDS stigma, which was far less compassionate then than it is now. Back then, many more people saw it as an exclusively "gay" disease.

Agreed.  WE both have probably as much on other threads and on other boards.  He dabbled, heavily or just slightly dipped, in a number of unsafe situations.  He seemed to have lived a jet fuelled sort of life- and he burned out rather than fade away. 

ACtually, he did sort of fade away at the end but I was referring to the length of life- his age.   
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: timfogarty on April 21, 2006, 06:15:00 PM
So are you saying that you are 100% homosexual? 

you must be new here
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: LuciusFox on April 21, 2006, 06:20:30 PM
you must be new here

   You seem straight to me. I haven't gotten any vibes from you.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: Disgusted on April 21, 2006, 08:01:52 PM
Agreed. Wasn't it a typically AIDS-related lymphoma or sarcoma that killed him? Of course the media and the general public seemingly couldn't (or wouldn't) make the connection at the time.

It was T-Cell Lymphoma. Supposedly prevelant in AIDS patients.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: shortfatugly on April 22, 2006, 02:09:48 PM
you must be new here

i'd say the same about you ... 
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: timfogarty on April 22, 2006, 04:36:51 PM
It was T-Cell Lymphoma. Supposedly prevelant in AIDS patients.

more accurate the other way around.  T-Cell Lymphoma is almost always due to AIDS.  But most people with HIV/AIDS do not develop this type of lymphoma.

T-Cell Lymphoma is an opportunistic infection that occurs when your immune system is suppressed.  Outside of HIV, that's usually due to chemotherapy for cancer, or taking drugs to prevent transplant rejection. 
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: sarcasm on April 22, 2006, 04:41:18 PM
i've never heard those rumors about Alzado, they covered it up well, how do you guys know this for sure?
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: timfogarty on April 22, 2006, 04:48:38 PM
i've never heard those rumors about Alzado, they covered it up well, how do you guys know this for sure?

everyone at Gold's Venice knew he was gay (ok, bi if you insist), knew that he had HIV and later AIDS.

the local press wasn't buying "the steroids caused my brain cancer" story.  even though they never outed him, they certainly showed their skepticism.  Even his doctor, after he died, was quoted in the LA Times as saying that steroids had no effect on his disease.   And his doctor at City of Hope was one of the top lymphoma specialists working on AIDS related lymphomas.
Title: Re: All Kidding Aside, Someone From the IFBB Owes Rusty Jeffers An Apology
Post by: WiseGuy on April 22, 2006, 05:00:15 PM
you guys ever eat bunny rabbit"?

so long as the pancake is whole wheat....


it is "acceptable"

Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: bigdumbbell on April 23, 2006, 05:14:43 PM
everyone at Gold's Venice knew he was gay (ok, bi if you insist), knew that he had HIV and later AIDS.

the local press wasn't buying "the steroids caused my brain cancer" story.  even though they never outed him, they certainly showed their skepticism.  Even his doctor, after he died, was quoted in the LA Times as saying that steroids had no effect on his disease.   And his doctor at City of Hope was one of the top lymphoma specialists working on AIDS related lymphomas.
he even starred in the sit-com "my secret identity" where he played a prowrestler that wears a mask
Title: Re: IFBB owes Rusty Jeffers an apology!
Post by: Gordon_Gekko on April 23, 2006, 08:46:56 PM
he even starred in the sit-com "my secret identity" where he played a prowrestler that wears a mask

Ironic how art (at least metaphorically) often imitates life, huh?