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In fifteen years fifty-five percent of all medium and light duty trucks will need to electric in the state of California. Seventy-five percent of heavy duty trucks will need to be electric.
Medium duty ends at 26,000 pounds and heavy duty starts at 26,001 pounds gross vehicle weight.
This will affect Ford, GM, Chrysler, Freightliner, Kenworth, Peterbuilt, International, Volvo, and Mack.
https://earther.gizmodo.com/california-will-require-most-trucks-sold-in-the-state-t-1844165246 (https://earther.gizmodo.com/california-will-require-most-trucks-sold-in-the-state-t-1844165246)
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Who will win the Olympia in 2035?
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2035's robot drivers won't have to pump gas.
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6 months ago, Plumbo was talking mega shit about airports & planes !.
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6 months ago, Plumbo was talking mega shit about airports & planes !.
I wouldn't describe it as mega shit. 2019 was a record breaking year for air travel. It's hard to say what will happen in the airline industry over the next six months.
I believe there's a good chance American Airlines could go bankrupt. Both Airbus and Boeing have new CEO's.
Will air travel in 2025 be greater than 2019? I would say yes.
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So go to the dealership with checkbook in hand and get told no, you can't buy what you want? Even tho the guy last week could?
Where does the electricity come from? What's the sum total of the planet-minus column, including batteries, new infrastructure, power generation? I'm gonna need some figures before throwing a Yay Green party.
Green bucks and political currency make this worth looking at closely before declaring it automatically wonderful.
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If fifty-five percent of light trucks must be electric that means cars and suv's will have to be too.
I don't think the state government understands how much more expensive electric vehicles are than gas. The base cost for a model 3 is $40K and a model Y is $46K. Can the average Californian afford a $46K vehicle just to get to work? Expect a light truck similar to the F150 to be closer to the $70K starting price of the Tesla model S.
Essentially every car and truck company will need a full line of electric vehicles in 15 years. The huge cost of that en-devour will be passe onto the customer. Between electric vehicles and self driving cars, we are on the verge of the largest shift in the auto industry in history. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
The reason GM crushed the initial fleet of EV1's is they saw how difficult it would be to make any money on electric cars. That hasn't changed, it's still just as difficult
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Who will win the Olympia in 2035?
Probably Greta once she gets a guv sponsored sex change and guv sponsored ped scripts
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Gonna have to burn a lot of fossil fuels in order to charge and re-charge those electric trucks.
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Who will win the Olympia in 2035?
Ronald Dean Coleman IV
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Gonna have to burn a lot of fossil fuels in order to charge and re-charge those electric trucks.
Or get the Greenies on board with nuclear. Tall order.
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Think the cost of things will rise?
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Or get the Greenies on board with nuclear. Tall order.
No chance... Another great hypocrisy of the pea brains on the left.
Limitless clean energy.... Lefties hate it, of course lol.
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Think the cost of things will rise?
The politicians and general public have no clue how much more this is going to cost them.
This isn't just medium duty and heavy duty trucks this will be all vehicles. This law forces people to pay luxury car prices. The average car price in California is currently $34K. Expect that number to go to $60K with out counting inflation come 2035. Elon has not solved the problem of why electric vehicles don't make sense. The battery's make the vehicle too expensive and Tesla hasn't solved that problem. People in California will figure this out in 2035. Hopefully the rest of the states don't enact similar legislation.
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Of course they fail to mention that the electricity used to charge these cars will be either from natural gas or (even worse) coal fired plants.
Just replacing one non-renewable source of power with another. ::)
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Of course they fail to mention that the electricity used to charge these cars will be either from natural gas or (even worse) coal fired plants.
Just replacing one non-renewable source of power with another. ::)
You should expect more regulations in California requiring electricity to be generated by solar or wind.
The United States has the largest coal reserves in the world and the fifth largest natural gas reserves. The electric car solves America's energy problems by eliminating the oil requirement. It does the same thing for China as well. There's a reason Saudi Aramaco is going public now. Oil is not the black gold it once was.
I'm not hating on electric cars, I just don't believe it's the governments role to mandate them. I actually think the Model 3 is an impressive electric car for the price, as do most auto makers around the world. The Germans (VW, BMW, and Mercedes) have developed impressive electric cars as well.
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Arnold Gavin in numero uno!
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I wouldn't describe it as mega shit. 2019 was a record breaking year for air travel. It's hard to say what will happen in the airline industry over the next six months.
I believe there's a good chance American Airlines could go bankrupt. Both Airbus and Boeing have new CEO's.
Will air travel in 2025 be greater than 2019? I would say yes.
Right, gib was another "visionary" too.
Why not tell us who will win 2024 election , Ivanka or ................
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I wouldn't describe it as mega shit. 2019 was a record breaking year for air travel. It's hard to say what will happen in the airline industry over the next six months.
I believe there's a good chance American Airlines could go bankrupt. Both Airbus and Boeing have new CEO's.
Will air travel in 2025 be greater than 2019? I would say yes.
One, maybe 2 airlines would be bailed out and everyone else goes bust.
Prepare for a 4 day work week and part time work being the new normal. In the big end of town they are rolling out remote working as the new normal for a large portion of their workforce. It doesn't seem like the push to get back to where we were is going to happen.
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Gonna have to burn a lot of fossil fuels in order to charge and re-charge those electric trucks.
solar power and wind power?
nuclear energy?
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nuclear energy?
Nuclear energy is essentially dead around the world. Between Fukushima, Chernobyl, and Three mile island, the public around the world is against Nuclear. The Fukushima disaster was the final nail in the coffin.
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Nuclear energy is essentially dead around the world. Between Fukushima, Chernobyl, and Three mile island, the public around the world is against Nuclear. The Fukushima disaster was the final nail in the coffin.
Yep. And "green energy" will come nowhere near providing the energy of fossil fuels- which are in fact stored solar energy (how else did the organic material that converted to oil grow in the first place?) So how are you going to charge all those electric trucks and cars? Solar panels? Wind turbines, lol? Not even remotely possible.
California government is clueless. Their own experts told them their goals were impossible. But that never stopped idiotic politicians from making idiotic rules and laws.
https://www.nature.com/news/2011/111026/full/478429a.html
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solar power and wind power?
nuclear energy?
Because solar and wind aren't reliable they need to be supported by either a natural gas or coal fired plant. Apparently this burns more energy then just a natural gas/coal plant by itself because it's not running consistently.
Nuclear is not renewable nor is it safe.
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Nothing like forcing the customer to pay more for shitty products.
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Nuclear energy is essentially dead around the world. Between Fukushima, Chernobyl, and Three mile island, the public around the world is against Nuclear. The Fukushima disaster was the final nail in the coffin.
Green New Deal wants to end all nuclear....problem is that's 20% of the electric production with no replacement - let alone the majority supplied by gas and coal.
I guess sit in dark apartments waiting for that $600 check then?
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The politicians and general public have no clue how much more this is going to cost them.
This isn't just medium duty and heavy duty trucks this will be all vehicles. This law forces people to pay luxury car prices. The average car price in California is currently $34K. Expect that number to go to $60K with out counting inflation come 2035. Elon has not solved the problem of why electric vehicles don't make sense. The battery's make the vehicle too expensive and Tesla hasn't solved that problem. People in California will figure this out in 2035. Hopefully the rest of the states don't enact similar legislation.
There's the saying: as goes California, so goes America. When those increased costs hit, it'll be awful here for the non-rich.
A Progressive friend said to me, don't worry, there'll be electric trains all over. Right. I hope our object lesson is heeded.
Yep. And "green energy" will come nowhere near providing the energy of fossil fuels- which are in fact stored solar energy (how else did the organic material that converted to oil grow in the first place?) So how are you going to charge all those electric trucks and cars? Solar panels? Wind turbines, lol? Not even remotely possible.
California government is clueless. Their own experts told them their goals were impossible. But that never stopped idiotic politicians from making idiotic rules and laws.
https://www.nature.com/news/2011/111026/full/478429a.html
We get a bit over 1/3 of electricity from natural gas, which is very cheap and plentiful (my monthly summertime gas bill for a 5BR home is about $15).
It's a FF, so CA wants to eliminate it completely by 2045, even though it is inconsequential in terms of producing global green house gas emissions.
(CA produces about 1% of all global green house gas emissions.)
Which energy company wants to build a gas plant here knowing it will be illegal by 2045?
CA wants renewables to fill the gap, but renewables "compete" via gov't subsidies. Renewables get a lot more in subsidies than the FFI,
and a hellava lot more per gigawatt-hour produced. The CA Progressive's dream is all-electric everything: cars, homes, trains, buses, etc.
Who can afford a $800-1200/month or more electric bill plus mortgage, property taxes, etc?
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Nuclear energy is essentially dead around the world. Between Fukushima, Chernobyl, and Three mile island, the public around the world is against Nuclear. The Fukushima disaster was the final nail in the coffin.
You really know shit !.
Have a very wild,wild guess who is buying Australian uranium ore & for what !. ::)
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Ten percent of global electricity is produced by Nuclear. The United States produces more nuclear electricity than any other country.
USA electric production by source:
Natural Gas 1,582 TWH (38%)
Coal 966 TWH (23%)
Nuclear 809 TWH (20%)
420 reactors world wide in 1989
442 reactors world wide in 2020