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Title: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2021, 08:11:08 PM
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Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: MCWAY on August 07, 2021, 09:09:09 PM
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That might explain why all of the mainstream media were so quick to DESTROY and DEMOLISH anyone and anything having to do with Hydroychloroquine.

I mean why use an already-existing medicine that's dirt cheap, when you can get grants for BILLIONS to create something new......even if it may not stop all the new remixes of the coronavirus.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 07, 2021, 10:04:30 PM
That might explain why all of the mainstream media were so quick to DESTROY and DEMOLISH anyone and anything having to do with Hydroychloroquine.

I mean why use an already-existing medicine that's dirt cheap, when you can get grants for BILLIONS to create something new......even if it may not stop all the new remixes of the coronavirus.

Exactly...Hydroxycholroq uin is about $12 for a 10 day supply.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: avxo on August 07, 2021, 10:37:04 PM
That might explain why all of the mainstream media were so quick to DESTROY and DEMOLISH anyone and anything having to do with Hydroychloroquine.

I mean why use an already-existing medicine that's dirt cheap, when you can get grants for BILLIONS to create something new......even if it may not stop all the new remixes of the coronavirus.

Yeah. And why not just boil some water, mix in a packet of powdered mashed potatoes, whisk in a stick of butter and add salt and paper to taste. You’ll get an amazing (and delicious!) healing salve that cures Ebola! But big pharma doesn’t want you to know that!

And, get this, if you add a dash of smoked paprika and a pinch of red pepper flakes you got yourself a highly anabolic paste. Shovel it directly to the mouth.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: jerseysilverback on August 08, 2021, 09:38:38 PM
Again, this is the reason that any mention of Ivermectin is heavily censored by MSM, big tech, and the Democratic party.  Check out the FLCCC website, the doctors heading this group were at the top of their fields (before advocating for Ivermectin).  There are close to 100 studies demonstrating IVM's value.   Big pharma has profited mightily to date and stands to profit even more through annual booster vaccines and the introduction of therapeutics that will likely be no more effective than IVM.  Shameless.   
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: a_pupil on August 09, 2021, 02:16:44 AM
I already cracked the case with my pfizer, covid and viagra thread.

These pencil pushers can't get anything past getbig alphas.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Freemason on August 09, 2021, 05:34:24 AM
Hydroxychloroquine was/is suppressed for the same reason the more effective ivermectin is suppressed.

There can be no Emergency Use Authorization for experimental vaccines if there is any known alternative treatment.

From the CDC description of the requirements of the EUA law:

“3) the known and potential benefits of the medical product, when used to diagnose, prevent, or treat the disease or condition, outweigh the risks, both known and potential; and 4) no adequate, approved, alternative medical product is available“

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/13/7/pdfs/06-1188.pdf


So if the NIH or FDA were to acknowledge ANY acceptable treatment there would be no vaccine today. Two people in my household treat COVID patients on a daily basis and we have been successfully taking ivermectin prophylaxis dosage for about a year.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: loco on August 09, 2021, 06:15:07 AM
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: tom joad on August 09, 2021, 06:15:29 AM
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Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 09, 2021, 06:19:59 AM
You know what really gets me? The whole, "Roll up your sleeves" media campaign.

When are you going to roll up your sleeves and help save lives?


Fucking scumbags,

"1"
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Freemason on August 09, 2021, 06:59:21 AM
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Fake news. This was Rand receiving a Hep-B booster several years ago. Notice no one is masked, obviously pre-plandemic.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2021, 07:13:24 AM
Exactly...Hydroxycholroquin is about $12 for a 10 day supply.

Ok, your "proven science" is saying a malaria medication , proven to be useless in treating Covid, is the real miracle cure.

Coach, can I interest you in a fine pc of swamp land at a good price? ;D
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Stutheobald on August 09, 2021, 07:13:56 AM
Pzifer refused any money from project warp speed so that they could sell the vaccine, most of the other companies couldn't that because they didn't have the deep pockets that Pfizer does.  Moderna had never released a drug up until the the mRNA vaccine so their sales will be up massively as they are now actually selling a product.

Why does everyone act like a company investing billions into R&D and supply chains isn't allowed to make a profit?
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: residue on August 09, 2021, 08:02:17 AM
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wait so all of a sudden you're anti capitalism?
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 08:08:00 AM
Yeah. And why not just boil some water, mix in a packet of powdered mashed potatoes, whisk in a stick of butter and add salt and paper to taste. You’ll get an amazing (and delicious!) healing salve that cures Ebola! But big pharma doesn’t want you to know that!

And, get this, if you add a dash of smoked paprika and a pinch of red pepper flakes you got yourself a highly anabolic paste. Shovel it directly to the mouth.

What part of "already-existing medicine" didn't you understand?

I didn't say anything about some homemade remedy. This is a drug that already exists, that has been used in ACTUAL patients who got the coronavirus and has had modest success.

Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 08:13:24 AM
Ok, your "proven science" is saying a malaria medication , proven to be useless in treating Covid, is the real miracle cure.

Coach, can I interest you in a fine pc of swamp land at a good price? ;D

Tell that to the lady from Michigan (a state legislator, I believe) who basically got ex-communicated from the Democrat party, for actually taking the medicine once she heard about it. She got excoriated by that screwball governor, Gretchen Whitmer for her "blasphemy" as well.

She even had the NERVE to thank President Trump for speaking about it.....AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!


LANSING – A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.

"It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2021, 08:21:53 AM
Tell that to the lady from Michigan (a state legislator, I believe) who basically got ex-communicated from the Democrat party, for actually taking the medicine once she heard about it.

She even had the NERVE to thank President Trump for speaking about it.....AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!


LANSING – A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.

"It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/

Your "proof" is nothing more then a nice story based on here-say.
Here is the results of clinical trials. Spoiler alert ...it doesn't work.

https://medcitynews.com/2020/08/why-hydroxychloroquines-appeal-endures-despite-evidence-it-doesnt-work-for-covid-19/
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 08:27:04 AM
Your "proof" is nothing more then a nice story based on here-say.
Here is the results of clinical trials. Spoiler alert ...it doesn't work.

https://medcitynews.com/2020/08/why-hydroxychloroquines-appeal-endures-despite-evidence-it-doesnt-work-for-covid-19/

The "hearsay" of Whisett's doctor, her family, and Whisett herself.

Here's more "hearsay"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hydroxychloroquine-given-early-helped-coronavirus-patients-study-finds-11593729664

BTW, I've also seen clinical trials that say anabolic steroids don't work and don't increase muscle mass or athletic performance.

So, the guys getting all big and swole using them must be mere "hearsay".

I never said hydroxychloriquine was a "miracle cure". But, if it's effective in certain cases (which it obviously is), it should be used. It was suppressed, in part, because there's more money in making new cures than using existing medicine that's relatively inexpensive.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2021, 09:26:09 AM
The "hearsay" of Whisett's doctor, her family, and Whisett herself.

Here's more "hearsay"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hydroxychloroquine-given-early-helped-coronavirus-patients-study-finds-11593729664

BTW, I've also seen clinical trials that say anabolic steroids don't work and don't increase muscle mass or athletic performance.

So, the guys getting all big and swole using them must be mere "hearsay".

I never said hydroxychloriquine was a "miracle cure". But, if it's effective in certain cases (which it obviously is), it should be used. It was suppressed, in part, because there's more money in making new cures than using existing medicine that's relatively inexpensive.

FYI, the correlation coef. for using HydCL on Covid was similar to random success rates .
In other words, it doesn't work any better then hope or snake oil.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 09:32:07 AM
FYI, the correlation coef. for using HydCL on Covid was similar to random success rates .
In other words, it doesn't work any better then hope or snake oil.

In other words, if the facts don't match the theory, change the facts.

Tell state rep. Whisett (and the others) that they just took some "snake oil" and they need to back to being sick and dying immediately.

While you're at it, tell those bodybuilders that anabolic steroids are useless, too.

Most of those studies claiming hydroxychloroquine was "useless" were done on people who were too far gone; whereas the bulk of the studies showing the drug having some effectiveness had the patients taking it EARLY.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2021, 09:35:59 AM
In other words, if the facts don't match the theory, change the facts.

Tell state rep. Whisett (and the others) that they just took some "snake oil" and they need to back to being sick and dying immediately.

While you're at it, tell those bodybuilders that anabolic steroids are useless, too.

Dude, you're free to believe whatever nonsense you want.
I already posted I'm done getting involved with covid posts...and damn if I didn't get pulled back in. LOL
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: avxo on August 09, 2021, 09:43:35 AM
What part of "already-existing medicine" didn't you understand?

I didn't say anything about some homemade remedy. This is a drug that already exists, that has been used in ACTUAL patients who got the coronavirus and has had modest success.

There is no peer-reviewed clinical data that suggests hydroxychloroquine is effective against COVID-19 so whether it’s “already-existing” matters as much as the fact that aspirin is “already-existing”.

Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 10:01:18 AM


Doctor lays down the facts...
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 09, 2021, 11:28:54 AM
Ok, your "proven science" is saying a malaria medication , proven to be useless in treating Covid, is the real miracle cure.

Coach, can I interest you in a fine pc of swamp land at a good price? ;D


You actually taught science and math to school kids? Hopefully some parents sue you to get their money back, lol
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 09, 2021, 11:32:20 AM
There is no peer-reviewed clinical data that suggests hydroxychloroquine is effective against COVID-19 so whether it’s “already-existing” matters as much as the fact that aspirin is “already-existing”.


try again, fuck nuts:


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33864917/
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Estimated on August 09, 2021, 12:07:22 PM
Big Pharma suppressed the discussion of any Therapeutics, because they need to in order to get emergency use permission, which would never be approved in a normal setting. Funny thing is, these "vaccines" act more like a therapeutic than a vaccine, if all they are doing is keeping you from dying when you catch covid. These vaccines are garbage, and all that money should have been put into therapeutics from the beginning. It was pretty obvious back then that this virus was never going to be wiped out, and they all knew that.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Howard on August 09, 2021, 12:40:08 PM
Look folks this is simple.
Like plenty of times before in human history we had an outbreak of a highly contagious disease.
So, the world of modern medical science developed a vaccine to deal with it.
If you take the vaccine, you are lot less likely to get seriously ill or die.

That's it. It's that simple.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 01:42:23 PM
your statement lacks conspiracy and complexity so will not fly in this county (GB)



meanwhile
 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/09/chefs-parents-and-brother-die-from-covid-within-week-after-jab-refusal   (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/09/chefs-parents-and-brother-die-from-covid-within-week-after-jab-refusal)

And you also have:

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/08/06/vaccinated-grandmother-lung-disease-dies-covid-volusia-florida-sandra-ruttles/5474249001/

https://wpde.com/news/coronavirus/healthy-south-florida-doctor-died-2-weeks-after-receiving-covid-19-vaccine-01-09-2021
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: joswift on August 09, 2021, 01:50:21 PM
Look folks this is simple.
Like plenty of times before in human history we had an outbreak of a highly contagious disease.
So, the world of modern medical science developed a vaccine to deal with it.
If you take the vaccine, you are lot less likely to get seriously ill or die.

That's it. It's that simple.

Try and get some more information apart from your television.

Its not even a vaccine by definition..
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Primemuscle on August 09, 2021, 02:08:26 PM
wait so all of a sudden you're anti capitalism?

Excellent point.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: MCWAY on August 09, 2021, 05:37:47 PM
Excellent point.

Capitalism is you put your product vs. someone else's product, with each getting to market his wares fairly. And whoever does a better job persuading the public at large makes more money.

It's not suppressing the other guy's advertising so that you get all the customers by default.
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: avxo on August 09, 2021, 09:22:29 PM

try again, fuck nuts:


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33864917/

Let’s read what this study concludes:

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Conclusions: Chemoprophylaxis with either oral hydroxychloroquine or povidone-iodine throat spray was superior to oral vitamin C in reducing SARS-CoV-2 infection in young and healthy men.

So to summarize: In a group of 42 who self-reported either spraying betadine or hydroxychloroquine, or taking vitamin C pills, the betadine/hydroxychloroquine group fared slightly better against infection.

STOP THE PRESSES!

Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: kreator on August 09, 2021, 10:11:26 PM
but but it wasn't on TV  ::)

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html?fbclid=IwAR1chJ8yQQX7G726z796GphqI0sYVbbed8f0a_2EWhHrSB3XtjVqe4BvEgI
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: avxo on August 09, 2021, 10:22:24 PM
but but it wasn't on TV  ::)

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html?fbclid=IwAR1chJ8yQQX7G726z796GphqI0sYVbbed8f0a_2EWhHrSB3XtjVqe4BvEgI

Is that Ryan Cole? The anti-vaxxer? The guy whose claims about COVID-19 were debunked widely, including by the author of the study which Cole cited as the basis for his claims?
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: G_Thang on August 09, 2021, 11:43:36 PM
Is that Ryan Cole? The anti-vaxxer? The guy whose claims about COVID-19 were debunked widely, including by the author of the study which Cole cited as the basis for his claims?

I don't have time to watch the video but virologists already confirmed the spiked cells did not remain localized but made their way to organs, causing autoimmune responses but we can pretend that's false like the buffoons in the San Diego Zoo giving the animals Pfizer vaccinations. Then again, their CEO is a fucking veterinarian which is a lie also. 
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: tommywishbone on August 09, 2021, 11:52:43 PM
Of course the vaccine is a bullshit lie.

The virus is shit. It's a sunburn. It's a diaper rash.

The miracle vaccine took six weeks to develop. SIX WEEKS. It's a lie.

HIV, 40 years and FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS... no vaccine.
Covid19, 45 days and a couple million dollars and they have a vaccine. HHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Stutheobald on August 10, 2021, 12:24:35 AM

try again, fuck nuts:


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33864917/

did you even read that report, it compares the effect combating COVID using vitamin C against oral hydroxychloroquine and says that hydroxychloroquine is more effective than vitamin C......maybe try reading the reports before searching for a random link that seems to back up your facts
Title: Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
Post by: Stutheobald on August 10, 2021, 12:29:28 AM
Of course the vaccine is a bullshit lie.

The virus is shit. It's a sunburn. It's a diaper rash.

The miracle vaccine took six weeks to develop. SIX WEEKS. It's a lie.

HIV, 40 years and FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS... no vaccine.
Covid19, 45 days and a couple million dollars and they have a vaccine. HHAHAHAHAHHAAHA!

maybe if you understood anything to do with virology, or even bothered to educate your self on the subject even slightly you would understand why.   fundamentally the HIV virus mutates at an alarming rate not only from host to host by within a host, additionally the virus has an amazing ability to be able to hide itself from antibodies meaning that the body cant defend itself against it.

Go and learn something and become a better human https://theconversation.com/hiv-aids-vaccine-why-dont-we-have-one-after-37-years-when-we-have-several-for-covid-19-after-a-few-months-160690