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Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« on: August 07, 2021, 08:11:08 PM »
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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2021, 09:09:09 PM »
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That might explain why all of the mainstream media were so quick to DESTROY and DEMOLISH anyone and anything having to do with Hydroychloroquine.

I mean why use an already-existing medicine that's dirt cheap, when you can get grants for BILLIONS to create something new......even if it may not stop all the new remixes of the coronavirus.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2021, 10:04:30 PM »
That might explain why all of the mainstream media were so quick to DESTROY and DEMOLISH anyone and anything having to do with Hydroychloroquine.

I mean why use an already-existing medicine that's dirt cheap, when you can get grants for BILLIONS to create something new......even if it may not stop all the new remixes of the coronavirus.

Exactly...Hydroxycholroq uin is about $12 for a 10 day supply.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2021, 10:37:04 PM »
That might explain why all of the mainstream media were so quick to DESTROY and DEMOLISH anyone and anything having to do with Hydroychloroquine.

I mean why use an already-existing medicine that's dirt cheap, when you can get grants for BILLIONS to create something new......even if it may not stop all the new remixes of the coronavirus.

Yeah. And why not just boil some water, mix in a packet of powdered mashed potatoes, whisk in a stick of butter and add salt and paper to taste. You’ll get an amazing (and delicious!) healing salve that cures Ebola! But big pharma doesn’t want you to know that!

And, get this, if you add a dash of smoked paprika and a pinch of red pepper flakes you got yourself a highly anabolic paste. Shovel it directly to the mouth.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2021, 09:38:38 PM »
Again, this is the reason that any mention of Ivermectin is heavily censored by MSM, big tech, and the Democratic party.  Check out the FLCCC website, the doctors heading this group were at the top of their fields (before advocating for Ivermectin).  There are close to 100 studies demonstrating IVM's value.   Big pharma has profited mightily to date and stands to profit even more through annual booster vaccines and the introduction of therapeutics that will likely be no more effective than IVM.  Shameless.   

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2021, 02:16:44 AM »
I already cracked the case with my pfizer, covid and viagra thread.

These pencil pushers can't get anything past getbig alphas.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2021, 05:34:24 AM »
Hydroxychloroquine was/is suppressed for the same reason the more effective ivermectin is suppressed.

There can be no Emergency Use Authorization for experimental vaccines if there is any known alternative treatment.

From the CDC description of the requirements of the EUA law:

“3) the known and potential benefits of the medical product, when used to diagnose, prevent, or treat the disease or condition, outweigh the risks, both known and potential; and 4) no adequate, approved, alternative medical product is available“

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/13/7/pdfs/06-1188.pdf


So if the NIH or FDA were to acknowledge ANY acceptable treatment there would be no vaccine today. Two people in my household treat COVID patients on a daily basis and we have been successfully taking ivermectin prophylaxis dosage for about a year.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2021, 06:19:59 AM »
You know what really gets me? The whole, "Roll up your sleeves" media campaign.

When are you going to roll up your sleeves and help save lives?


Fucking scumbags,

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2021, 06:59:21 AM »



Fake news. This was Rand receiving a Hep-B booster several years ago. Notice no one is masked, obviously pre-plandemic.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2021, 07:13:24 AM »
Exactly...Hydroxycholroquin is about $12 for a 10 day supply.

Ok, your "proven science" is saying a malaria medication , proven to be useless in treating Covid, is the real miracle cure.

Coach, can I interest you in a fine pc of swamp land at a good price? ;D

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2021, 07:13:56 AM »
Pzifer refused any money from project warp speed so that they could sell the vaccine, most of the other companies couldn't that because they didn't have the deep pockets that Pfizer does.  Moderna had never released a drug up until the the mRNA vaccine so their sales will be up massively as they are now actually selling a product.

Why does everyone act like a company investing billions into R&D and supply chains isn't allowed to make a profit?

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2021, 08:02:17 AM »
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wait so all of a sudden you're anti capitalism?

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2021, 08:08:00 AM »
Yeah. And why not just boil some water, mix in a packet of powdered mashed potatoes, whisk in a stick of butter and add salt and paper to taste. You’ll get an amazing (and delicious!) healing salve that cures Ebola! But big pharma doesn’t want you to know that!

And, get this, if you add a dash of smoked paprika and a pinch of red pepper flakes you got yourself a highly anabolic paste. Shovel it directly to the mouth.

What part of "already-existing medicine" didn't you understand?

I didn't say anything about some homemade remedy. This is a drug that already exists, that has been used in ACTUAL patients who got the coronavirus and has had modest success.


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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2021, 08:13:24 AM »
Ok, your "proven science" is saying a malaria medication , proven to be useless in treating Covid, is the real miracle cure.

Coach, can I interest you in a fine pc of swamp land at a good price? ;D

Tell that to the lady from Michigan (a state legislator, I believe) who basically got ex-communicated from the Democrat party, for actually taking the medicine once she heard about it. She got excoriated by that screwball governor, Gretchen Whitmer for her "blasphemy" as well.

She even had the NERVE to thank President Trump for speaking about it.....AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!


LANSING – A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.

"It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2021, 08:21:53 AM »
Tell that to the lady from Michigan (a state legislator, I believe) who basically got ex-communicated from the Democrat party, for actually taking the medicine once she heard about it.

She even had the NERVE to thank President Trump for speaking about it.....AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!


LANSING – A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.

"It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.


https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/

Your "proof" is nothing more then a nice story based on here-say.
Here is the results of clinical trials. Spoiler alert ...it doesn't work.

https://medcitynews.com/2020/08/why-hydroxychloroquines-appeal-endures-despite-evidence-it-doesnt-work-for-covid-19/

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2021, 08:27:04 AM »
Your "proof" is nothing more then a nice story based on here-say.
Here is the results of clinical trials. Spoiler alert ...it doesn't work.

https://medcitynews.com/2020/08/why-hydroxychloroquines-appeal-endures-despite-evidence-it-doesnt-work-for-covid-19/

The "hearsay" of Whisett's doctor, her family, and Whisett herself.

Here's more "hearsay"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hydroxychloroquine-given-early-helped-coronavirus-patients-study-finds-11593729664

BTW, I've also seen clinical trials that say anabolic steroids don't work and don't increase muscle mass or athletic performance.

So, the guys getting all big and swole using them must be mere "hearsay".

I never said hydroxychloriquine was a "miracle cure". But, if it's effective in certain cases (which it obviously is), it should be used. It was suppressed, in part, because there's more money in making new cures than using existing medicine that's relatively inexpensive.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2021, 09:26:09 AM »
The "hearsay" of Whisett's doctor, her family, and Whisett herself.

Here's more "hearsay"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hydroxychloroquine-given-early-helped-coronavirus-patients-study-finds-11593729664

BTW, I've also seen clinical trials that say anabolic steroids don't work and don't increase muscle mass or athletic performance.

So, the guys getting all big and swole using them must be mere "hearsay".

I never said hydroxychloriquine was a "miracle cure". But, if it's effective in certain cases (which it obviously is), it should be used. It was suppressed, in part, because there's more money in making new cures than using existing medicine that's relatively inexpensive.

FYI, the correlation coef. for using HydCL on Covid was similar to random success rates .
In other words, it doesn't work any better then hope or snake oil.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2021, 09:32:07 AM »
FYI, the correlation coef. for using HydCL on Covid was similar to random success rates .
In other words, it doesn't work any better then hope or snake oil.

In other words, if the facts don't match the theory, change the facts.

Tell state rep. Whisett (and the others) that they just took some "snake oil" and they need to back to being sick and dying immediately.

While you're at it, tell those bodybuilders that anabolic steroids are useless, too.

Most of those studies claiming hydroxychloroquine was "useless" were done on people who were too far gone; whereas the bulk of the studies showing the drug having some effectiveness had the patients taking it EARLY.

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2021, 09:35:59 AM »
In other words, if the facts don't match the theory, change the facts.

Tell state rep. Whisett (and the others) that they just took some "snake oil" and they need to back to being sick and dying immediately.

While you're at it, tell those bodybuilders that anabolic steroids are useless, too.

Dude, you're free to believe whatever nonsense you want.
I already posted I'm done getting involved with covid posts...and damn if I didn't get pulled back in. LOL

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2021, 09:43:35 AM »
What part of "already-existing medicine" didn't you understand?

I didn't say anything about some homemade remedy. This is a drug that already exists, that has been used in ACTUAL patients who got the coronavirus and has had modest success.

There is no peer-reviewed clinical data that suggests hydroxychloroquine is effective against COVID-19 so whether it’s “already-existing” matters as much as the fact that aspirin is “already-existing”.


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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2021, 10:01:18 AM »


Doctor lays down the facts...

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2021, 11:28:54 AM »
Ok, your "proven science" is saying a malaria medication , proven to be useless in treating Covid, is the real miracle cure.

Coach, can I interest you in a fine pc of swamp land at a good price? ;D


You actually taught science and math to school kids? Hopefully some parents sue you to get their money back, lol

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Re: Finally!! The science behind the vaccines
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2021, 11:32:20 AM »
There is no peer-reviewed clinical data that suggests hydroxychloroquine is effective against COVID-19 so whether it’s “already-existing” matters as much as the fact that aspirin is “already-existing”.


try again, fuck nuts:


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33864917/