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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BBSSchlemiel on October 07, 2021, 09:27:59 AM
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Here it is: don’t do drugs.
Often after bodybuilding deaths we hear, “Things need to change.” Well, like, uh, bodybuilders don’t want to change and they love having roided-up bodies. How’s that supposed to work?
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Everyone dies there is no known way not to Die from Life yet
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Everyone dies there is no known way not to Die from Life yet
Most don’t die from a bleeding asshole though.
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Most don’t die from a bleeding asshole though.
3rd leading cause of cancer related deaths in the US involves passing blood dying from it is a lot more common than you realize what the fuck do you think people die from???
https://www.cancer.org/cancer/colon-rectal-cancer/about/key-statistics.html
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Everyone dies there is no known way not to Die from Life yet
But not usually at 37.
You'd be dead 6 years already and your kid would not ever be born.
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Everyone dies there is no known way not to Die from Life yet
Ask Wes.
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There is absolutely nothing to be done to prevent deaths like George Peterson, if we assume it was a heart attack most likely induced or affected by drugs. What could be done? Absolutely nothing, at least by the orgs.
Individual bodybuilders could prevent some of these instances by doing health testing that is available. For example Dallas McCarver could have discovered he had blocked arteries by doing certain types of testing. But it's up to the individual.
Diuretic testing won't work much either. There's a reason it was dropped. Guys started searching for other drugs to diurese more, some just tried not drinking for 3 days. Dehydrating is dangerous even without any drugs.
There is a guru who claims hardcore diuretics can be done perfectly safely. His thing is doing Aldactone for a number of days, not to dehydrate but to build up potassium stores. Then you can do Lasix or similar safely the day before. :D
Of course this is what has already been done for decades.
But then you have madmen like Aceto who mix 5 different diuretics, sometimes on top of heavy fluid restriction :D
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There is absolutely nothing to be done to prevent deaths like George Peterson, if we assume it was a heart attack most likely induced or affected by drugs. What could be done? Absolutely nothing, at least by the orgs.
Individual bodybuilders could prevent some of these instances by doing health testing that is available. For example Dallas McCarver could have discovered he had blocked arteries by doing certain types of testing. But it's up to the individual.
Diuretic testing won't work much either. There's a reason it was dropped. Guys started searching for other drugs to diurese more, some just tried not drinking for 3 days. Dehydrating is dangerous even without any drugs.
They can simply choose not to participate in drug-aided bodybuilding.
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They can simply choose not to participate in drug-aided bodybuilding.
Absolutely. That's a sure way not to die from drugs. But it's not an option if competitive bodybuilding is their thing.
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They can simply choose not to participate in drug-aided bodybuilding.
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But not usually at 37.
You'd be dead 6 years already and your kid would not ever be born.
A couple teenagers die playing high school sports every year we don't know what caused his death and attributing it to bodybuilding or drugs is mere speculation
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more people die from tylenol
prob even more deaths from legal supps like hydroxycut took that moms liver or kids overdosing on anhydrous caffeine
don’t compete on a pro level and expect too much would be the better answer
guru should be renamed to grim reapers
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more people die from tylenol
prob even more deaths from legal supps like hydroxycut took that moms liver or kids overdosing on anhydrous caffeine
don’t compete on a pro level and expect too much would be the better answer
guru should be renamed to grim reapers
how many people take tylenol every year? Billions prob, those are statistical outliers. How many pro bodybuilders are they? 250? 500? it's a much smaller pool
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do the opposite
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more people die from tylenol
prob even more deaths from legal supps like hydroxycut took that moms liver or kids overdosing on anhydrous caffeine
don’t compete on a pro level and expect too much would be the better answer
guru should be renamed to grim reapers
I touched on this in another thread, however I think there is something to be said about the guru/coach dynamic in bodybuilding attributed fatality and illness. Whilst some coaches may encourage blood work, organ scans, monitoring heart rate and blood pressure to check in on their clients they will most likely be "prescribing" the doses necessary for the look required to be competitive onstage anyway. For example, some abnormalities may be dismissed for x reason.
There is also the idea that the athlete/bodybuilder is absolving their personal responsibility to health risk management through adhering to the PED guidelines of the coach. For example, "this is what needs to be done, so I will do it" rather than the personal reflection of "this PED protocol would help bring x look to the stage but I should also consider xyz factors". I do also believe when it comes to managing personal health in relation to PED side effects, there is potential for the athlete to listen to biofeedback and adjust accordingly. This won't be 100% effective in avoiding unintended consequences of elite bodybuilding.
I believe many elite level bodybuilders are very in tune with their own body and mind - levels of fatigue, mood, anxiety, muscle recovery, CNS, appetite, feeling flat or full, flu and cold-like symptoms and other aspects such as workout quality (not necessarily in reference to rep/set). These aspects of feedback are inner and whilst coaches will be able to see feedback on a physical level often to great detail and through phone and text consultation. The athlete/bodybuilder may put inner negative feedback aside in favour of achieving their goals and satisfying the guidelines prescribed by the coach. The end result could be ignoring and pushing aside warning signs that could have helped save his or her own life.
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I don’t hear about NFL, NBA, MLB, players dying at the rate of bbers do
People will justify and make excuses for anything so they can sleep better at night with “well, you can die doing this or that, or taking this and that” ::) ::)
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A couple teenagers die playing high school sports every year we don't know what caused his death and attributing it to bodybuilding or drugs is mere speculation
You’re not very smart, but then again, don’t expect much
How many kids playing sports by population? Stats and numbers compared to bbers at the pro and amateur level
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Everyone dies there is no known way not to Die from Life yet
Haha, me funny, me edgelord, me so smart.
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You’re not very smart, but then again, don’t expect much
How many kids playing sports by population? Stats and numbers compared to bbers at the pro and amateur level
Stop you couldn't pass a statistics exam if your life depended on it. One in 5 heart attacks is under 40 years old this guy having a heart attack and dying at 37 is not some kind of statistical anomaly and may have nothing to do with bodybuilding
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Hello to your Mr. Olympia 2022 contestants -
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Janoy had good legs, when you crop off the upper body he looks great.
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Janoy had good legs, when you crop off the upper body he looks great.
Agreed. Great potential in the leg department!
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Using bodybuilding drugs are a risk to health. Due to the illegal nature of drug use we don't have statistical analysis that is comprehensive. Bodybuilding drugs increase the risk of heart attack, stroke, liver disease, prostate health and kidneys. Some speculate tren damages lungs. Most users want to rationalize the health risk away with illogical spin. They sound like smokers that point out they know a 80 something person that smoked their whole life. Will smoking lead to heart attack, cancer and lung disorders for all? No, but it increases the risk dramatically.
Same rationalization that some fat people say they won't run because they heard of a runner having a heart attack. Being in good cardio shape has prevented more heart attacks than it has caused. First thing after clearance from a cardiologist after a heart attack is rehab doing cardio exercise.
Bodybuilding could be the show case for health but drugs has wrecked it. Also tired of guys that want credit for their drug physique. I wish one would say completely off drugs I look like crap so it's not my gym knowledge or work ethic that's responsible. It's all drugs.
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Using bodybuilding drugs are a risk to health. Due to the illegal nature of drug use we don't have statistical analysis that is comprehensive. Bodybuilding drugs increase the risk of heart attack, stroke, liver disease, prostate health and kidneys. Some speculate tren damages lungs. Most users want to rationalize the health risk away with illogical spin. They sound like smokers that point out they know a 80 something person that smoked their whole life. Will smoking lead to heart attack, cancer and lung disorders for all? No, but it increases the risk dramatically.
Same rationalization that some fat people say they won't run because they heard of a runner having a heart attack. Being in good cardio shape has prevented more heart attacks than it has caused. First thing after clearance from a cardiologist after a heart attack is rehab doing cardio exercise.
Bodybuilding could be the show case for health but drugs has wrecked it. Also tired of guys that want credit for their drug physique. I wish one would say completely off drugs I look like crap so it's not my gym knowledge or work ethic that's responsible. It's all drugs.
But that is nonsense if you put rocket fuel in a Pinto it still isn't going anywhere fast. You can't just take a slob sitting on the couch give them supplements and expect them to turn into an athlete it doesn't work that way.
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But that is nonsense if you put rocket fuel in a Pinto it still isn't going anywhere fast. You can't just take a slob sitting on the couch give them supplements and expect them to turn into an athlete it doesn't work that way.
Bodybuilders are athletes?
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God, I can't stand even looking at Jason Blowhole. How anyone thinks that guy is an expert on anything is beyond me.
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God, I can't stand even looking at Jason Blowhole. How anyone thinks that guy is an expert on anything is beyond me.
I don’t think he’s an expert but he does know quite a bit and I don’t think he’s unintelligent. He has an odd-looking physique (and an odd personality) but that’s another story.
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I don’t think he’s an expert but he does know quite a bit and I don’t think he’s unintelligent. He has an odd-looking physique (and an odd personality) but that’s another story.
He is very unintelligent. Go back and watch some of his old videos from years ago if he hasn't taken them down. He also has terrible genetics and now just uses lots of gear to look a little bit better. He tries to sound smart by just repeating conjugate training advice he read from Louie Simmons' books.
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He is very unintelligent. Go back and watch some of his old videos from years ago if he hasn't taken them down. He also has terrible genetics and now just uses lots of gear to look a little bit better. He tries to sound smart by just repeating conjugate training advice he read from Louie Simmons' books.
He was a total loon in his old videos and I remember all the mercenary, military, and gun talk, which brought on loads of response and satire videos.
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He was a total loon in his old videos and I remember all the mercenary, military, and gun talk, which brought on loads of response and satire videos.
Natural Hypertrophy (Youtube) posts videos about Blaha every month on his channel. He has revealed some very embarrassing stuff.
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Is anyone aware of a class-action lawsuit due to bodybuilding related deaths?
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Is anyone aware of a class-action lawsuit due to bodybuilding related deaths?
How could they sue? They chose to do it.
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https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/question-of-strength-54/
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Stop you couldn't pass a statistics exam if your life depended on it. One in 5 heart attacks is under 40 years old this guy having a heart attack and dying at 37 is not some kind of statistical anomaly and may have nothing to do with bodybuilding
Look at you, for being so smart, you are unemployed, felon, and your response to gear is hysterical. Not to mention all the health problems you have with a bleeding asshole
Mark my words, when you die on here, I’ll be the first to laugh my ass off
Good riddance
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But that is nonsense if you put rocket fuel in a Pinto it still isn't going anywhere fast. You can't just take a slob sitting on the couch give them supplements and expect them to turn into an athlete it doesn't work that way.
You just summed up your gear usage to your inferior genetic response there
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Natural Hypertrophy (Youtube) posts videos about Blaha every month on his channel. He has revealed some very embarrassing stuff.
I am going check the channel out, although I consider those obsessed with Blaha to be as strange as he is.
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Look at you, for being so smart, you are unemployed, felon, and your response to gear is hysterical. Not to mention all the health problems you have with a bleeding asshole
Mark my words, when you die on here, I’ll be the first to laugh my ass off
Good riddance
I retired early travelled the world and worked for myself for a decade not exactly the same thing as being unemployed and I am absolutely not a felon. If my physique is so bad let's see yours exactly
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Hard Rock'n Rollers die @ 27 !.
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Here it is: don’t do drugs.
Often after bodybuilding deaths we hear, “Things need to change.” Well, like, uh, bodybuilders don’t want to change and they love having roided-up bodies. How’s that supposed to work?
Some bodybuilders believe they are invincible. Later they find out that they aren't....often when it is too late.
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Bodybuilders on drugs look great on the outside so it's hard for the brain to understand the sickness inside.
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Bodybuilders are athletes?
Absolutely
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Absolutely
No, they are not.
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No, they are not.
Yo couldn't make a more ignorant statement same kind of discrimination that makes no sense the people who train the most year round for decades and have the most to show for it are somehow judged to not be real athletes by part time game players. It's nonsense by all means tell me about your functional core strength and safety fat fucking ignorance
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not sure, but isn't another huge "issue" is the rec drugs, smoking, and booze these pros take as well, along with the actual bb drugs?...
has there been any pros or top amateurs who dropped dead that were truly clean besides the roids (and only roids) they took?
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Between WHO, CDC and several other scientific data sources, that record death by age do so in deaths per 1000 people in each age group. If you take the 35-65 age group as a whole, the years most "shocking" bodybuilding deaths occur, and average out the amount of people in this age range in the general population that die it's about 5-6 people per thousand that die every year. I would say there are at least 1000 bodybuilders around the world who do heavy gear in this age range, so 5 or 6 deaths per year is really not more than the general population.
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Is anyone aware of a class-action lawsuit due to bodybuilding related deaths?
To be honest, today's bodybuilders have no class.
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Yo couldn't make a more ignorant statement same kind of discrimination that makes no sense the people who train the most year round for decades and have the most to show for it are somehow judged to not be real athletes by part time game players. It's nonsense by all means tell me about your functional core strength and safety fat fucking ignorance
Easy there, Pollyanna. As usual you are incorrect. Athlete? No. Assleach? Yes.
Doubtless you are incapable of an intelligent response so perhaps we've misjudged you and you truly are a bodybuilder of today. FTN.
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Easy there, Pollyanna. As usual you are incorrect. Athlete? No. Assleach? Yes.
Doubtless you are incapable of an intelligent response so perhaps we've misjudged you and you truly are a bodybuilder of today. FTN.
You are just another cripple old hater slob who hates on bodybuilders why are people like you even on Getbig?
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You are just another cripple old hater slob who hates on bodybuilders why are people like you even on Getbig?
Well, to be honest I never thought my Getbig raison d'etre would be to taunt someone more ignorant than myself but given your presence here perhaps that is a sign from above that I am not as dumb as one can get.
Pollyanna.
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Yo couldn't make a more ignorant statement same kind of discrimination that makes no sense the people who train the most year round for decades and have the most to show for it are somehow judged to not be real athletes by part time game players. It's nonsense by all means tell me about your functional core strength and safety fat fucking ignorance
Says the man who can't properly use punctuation in his sentences, uses drugs for his muscles, and shits blood, etc.
Like you are a bodybuilder. That's a laugh.
You are a wannabe, bro.
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You are just another cripple old hater slob who hates on bodybuilders why are people like you even on Getbig?
The question is why are you on Getbig? We run this place you fucking newb
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The question is why are you on Getbig? We run this place you fucking newb
. You couldn't run a Mcdonalds
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Says the man who can't properly use punctuation in his sentences, uses drugs for his muscles, and shits blood, etc.
Like you are a bodybuilder. That's a laugh.
You are a wannabe, bro.
Spoken like the truly ignorant drugs do not make muscles again you are another one who doesn't get it. I don't pass blood all the time I occasionally get ulcers so what I am still in better shape than you. But no I don't know anything because you think I am using some magic pill. If I am a wannabe wtf are you a godamn schmoe?? Just another idiot who thinks they know how shit works if it was so easy to just take a magic pill everyone would look like a damn pro.
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Absolutely
You are correct. By definition bodybuilders are athletes....what many of them lack is athleticism.
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You are correct. By definition bodybuilders are athletes....what many of them lack is athleticism.
You are no different, by definition you are a man but you lack manliness
Are you still chasing hobos in public restrooms?
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You are no different, by definition you are a man but you lack manliness
Are you still chasing hobos in public restrooms?
Another homophobe...how original. ::)
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You are correct. By definition bodybuilders are athletes....what many of them lack is athleticism.
Exactly, bodybuilders are athletes however may not display aptitude in some athletic measures, not unlike any other athlete the bodybuilder has specificity.
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I don't pass blood all the time
I occasionally get ulcers
I am still in better shape than you
I don't know anything
I am using some magic pill
I am a wannabe
Ha! Triggered you, bro.
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What do bodybuilders do that is athletic? Lift weights? Pose on stage? Eat 8 meals a day? Inject drugs?
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But that is nonsense if you put rocket fuel in a Pinto it still isn't going anywhere fast. You can't just take a slob sitting on the couch give them supplements and expect them to turn into an athlete it doesn't work that way.
I have seen enough zero's in the gym turn into hero's in short order using drugs. Yes drugs don't work if you are lazy and don't train hard. Drugs let people train hard from making them more aggressive and seeing instant feed back in weeks from training. Yes, those with the best genetics and the best work ethic will gain the most from drugs. Just wonder where that genetics and work ethic goes when they stop drugs completely turning into slobs.
Here's a Pinto on HGH, anabolic steroids, testosterone, anti estrogens, luteinizing hormones, insulin, comid, speed, EPO, amphetamines and site oil injections,
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What do bodybuilders do that is athletic? Lift weights? Pose on stage? Eat 8 meals a day? Inject drugs?
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I can't speak for everyone but personally I have a ton of athletic interest and play all kinds of sports but you claim I don't qualify as a bodybuilder lol. Most guys wind up in the gym rehabbing some kind of sport injury and everyone has different athletic backgrounds and interest. You are one of the people who thinks weight lifters can't do anything else which is fucking nonsense. Being strong helps you play sports training makes you more athletic as you age. I can make a godamn list of athletic activities I participate in but then would be called a liar and a braggart but yeah I snowboard, kitesurf, mountain bike, free dive, surf, swim, climb etc etc etc training has absolutely extended my ability to participate in these activities as I age
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When I was young I've seen other young guys pursue the syringe life style completely neglecting pursuing a career. When they finally realized they were broke without a home or a family of their own it must have hit hard. For every Jay Cutler that lives in a fantastic house with luxury cars there are so many more guys that are completely broke trying to be a champ. Some of them luck out marrying a women with money to support them. Not trying to lump everyone together but stating how many I've seen that have thrown away any chance of succeeding in life.
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What do bodybuilders do that is athletic? Lift weights? Pose on stage? Eat 8 meals a day? Inject drugs?
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When I was young I've seen other young guys pursue the syringe life style completely neglecting pursuing a career. When they finally realized they were broke without a home or a family of their own it must have hit hard. For every Jay Cutler that lives in a fantastic house with luxury cars there are so many more guys that are completely broke trying to be a champ. Some of them luck out marrying a women with money to support them. Not trying to lump everyone together but stating how many I've seen that have thrown away any chance of succeeding in life.
Well said, gentlemen. 8) You both speak the absolute truth.
And funk? The title of that video is perfect as most of them won't be around into their 30s as they will either die or have to drop out of the "lifestyle" when their kidneys drop out of their ass.
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I can't speak for everyone but personally I have a ton of athletic interest and play all kinds of sports but you claim I don't qualify as a bodybuilder lol. Most guys wind up in the gym rehabbing some kind of sport injury and everyone has different athletic backgrounds and interest. You are one of the people who thinks weight lifters can't do anything else which is fucking nonsense. Being strong helps you play sports training makes you more athletic as you age. I can make a godamn list of athletic activities I participate in but then would be called a liar and a braggart but yeah I snowboard, kitesurf, mountain bike, free dive, surf, swim, climb etc etc etc training has absolutely extended my ability to participate in these activities as I age
I was pulling your chain about being a bodybuilder, however, your bodybuilding hobby has nothing to do with your athletic experiences. Your bodybuilding training is very limited.
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I was pulling your chain about being a bodybuilder, however, your bodybuilding hobby has nothing to do with your athletic experiences. Your bodybuilding training is very limited.
I got my first weight set when I was about 8 years old been lifting my entire life have maintained my current form for 20 plus years now
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Some of them luck out marrying a women finding a schmoe with money to support them.
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I got my first weight set when I was about 8 years old been lifting my entire life have maintained my current form for 20 plus years now
Good for you.
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I got my first weight set when I was about 8 years old been lifting my entire life have maintained my current form for 20 plus years now
Finally... an admission to himself he hasnt changed for 20 years, hes been telling everyone on here hes imroving all the time
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Finally... an admission to himself he hasnt changed for 20 years, hes been telling everyone on here hes imroving all the time
All in his mind.
It's nice the mental institution allows him internet priviledges.