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I hope >:(
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They should release the whole email chain so we can determine what he meant. Lips as big as a brand of tires is a weird comment.
If someone took a quote from here about Phil heaths nose width that could be viewed as racist (and given this site it probably was).
I’m not defending what he said but I am curious as to what he meant in context of the conversation, because we could talk about Heaths nose width and have it be focused on his GH use, where as the tire lips COULD be about something else not race related.
Or Smith may just have large lips. Nothing to do with race. Just like Gruden has a Campbell’s soup bowl haircut.
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Or Smith may just have large lips. Nothing to do with race. Just like Gruden has a Campbell’s soup bowl haircut.
Don't compare large lips to a funny haircut
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Who the fuck is Gruden?
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Don't compare large lips to a funny haircut
Why? People inject their lips to make them larger.
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People have called Gruden "Chucky" for years and he never complained.
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They should release the whole email chain so we can determine what he meant. Lips as big as a brand of tires is a weird comment.
If someone took a quote from here about Phil heaths nose width that could be viewed as racist (and given this site it probably was).
I’m not defending what he said but I am curious as to what he meant in context of the conversation, because we could talk about Heaths nose width and have it be focused on his GH use, where as the tire lips COULD be about something else not race related.
There's no comparison here
When commenting on any body part of any pro bbuilder of course it could almost always be gear related. If what Gruden said was about the lips of an NFL executive was not race related especially knowing Grudens personality then please call me an idiot
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I googled what this was about. Even if something like this had a racial element why is it SUCH a huge deal? Something said in anger 10 years ago is enough to kill a career? It's too much.
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People have called Gruden "Chucky" for years and he never complained.
That's because he IS Chucky
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I googled what this was about. Even if something like this had a racial element why is it SUCH a huge deal? Something said in anger 10 years ago is enough to kill a career? It's too much.
I never liked him as a coach He's an idiot with a $100million contract He was given a solid team on it's way back to it's legendary status and destroyed it by trading away 2 top players in the league so the owner could pay him instead He is an Ahole that the officials can't stand and I don't blame them and now I learn that he is a racist too which isn't surprising
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That's because he IS Chucky
That's raciss!!!
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I never liked him as a coach He's an idiot with a $100million contract He was given a solid team on it's way back to it's legendary status and destroyed it by trading away 2 top players in the league so the owner could pay him instead He is an Ahole that the officials can't stand and I don't blame them and now I learn that he is a racist too which isn't surprising
I don't anything about him or about football, at all.
But if we are honest, most people have "racist" notions that come out every now and then. Does not matter how antiracist someone is, how many minority friends he has, how much he has done for blacks or whoever. Everyone has something against some group or a manifestation of characteristics ("there are blacks and then there are nigs"). This sensitivity to whites saying something even remotely racist is ridiculous. And we know it only goes one way. Today being white is racist in itself, born white = racist no matter what.
Trump was a racist and anti-Semite despite having a Jew as top advisor and a daughter who converted. Can't win.
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There's no comparison here
When commenting on any body part of any pro bbuilder of course it could almost always be gear related. If what Gruden said was about the lips of an NFL executive was not race related especially knowing Grudens personality then please call me an idiot
He already explained what it meant and it wasn’t racist. This was released by Demaurice Smith’s camp to help him keep his job that was voted on yesterday.
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He already explained what it meant and it wasn’t racist. This was released by Demaurice Smith’s camp to help him keep his job that was voted on yesterday.
He didn't say rubber lips he said that they were "the size of Michelin tires" He tried to escape by saying he meant to say rubber lips I say BS and so does the league...
The NFL called Gruden’s email “appalling, abhorrent, and wholly contrary to the NFL’s values.” The Raiders have not yet commented on the matter.
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Trump was a racist and anti-Semite
Where is your proof?
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He didn't say rubber lips he said that they were "the size of Michelin tires" He tried to escape by saying he meant to say rubber lips I say BS and so does the league...
The NFL called Gruden’s email “appalling, abhorrent, and wholly contrary to the NFL’s values.” The Raiders have not yet commented on the matter.
He also criticized Goodell in the emails, so I’m sure they aren’t too happy. If you think the league is impartial in this, you must be blind.
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He didn't say rubber lips he said that they were "the size of Michelin tires" He tried to escape by saying he meant to say rubber lips I say BS and so does the league...
The NFL called Gruden’s email “appalling, abhorrent, and wholly contrary to the NFL’s values.” The Raiders have not yet commented on the matter.
Mark Davis did comment on the matter. He is the owner of the Raiders, so “they” made a statement.
The NFL is a self serving institution commenting against this is what they’re supposed to do.
The email investigation was supposed to be about researching their old team doctor. Instead the Gruden comments are released, just in time for D Smith to be re elected as the President of the NFLPA.
Was any information released about Dan Synder (or other Washington leadership) and their sexual misconduct towards cheerleaders? No. Why? We know inappropriate actions took place, sexual things were also said…..
Gruden sucks. But this stupid comment doesn’t make him a racist.
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“The NFL’s values…”
It is a league of corrupt owners, felons, anti-American assholes, drug addicts, murderers, and wifebeaters.
The NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB can all FOAD.
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Where is your proof?
I'm not saying he was or wasn't. It's what he was accused of constantly. Like everyone, he had his predjudices and stereotypes about different groups I'm certain. What I'm saying is that, no matter what, as a white you can be branded racist at anytime and in fact are a racist just due to the fact you were born.
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Who cares?
It's all bullsh*t.
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Mark Davis did comment on the matter. He is the owner of the Raiders, so “they” made a statement.
I haven't heard anything yet from the team or Davis Post something if you have it
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I haven't heard anything yet from the team or Davis Post something if you have it
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/08/mark-davis-jon-gruden-email-is-disturbing/
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Mark Davis did comment on the matter. He is the owner of the Raiders, so “they” made a statement.
“The content of an email regarding DeMaurice Smith from Jon Gruden when he worked for ESPN 10 years ago is disturbing and not what the Raiders stand for,” Raiders owner Mark Davis said in a statement issued Friday evening. “We were first made aware of the email late yesterday by a reporter and are reviewing it along with other materials provided to us today by the NFL. We are addressing the matter with Coach Gruden and will have no further comment at this time.”
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“The NFL’s values…”
It is a league of corrupt owners, felons, anti-American assholes, drug addicts, murderers, and wifebeaters.
The NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB can all FOAD.
this x 100000000
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“The content of an email regarding DeMaurice Smith from Jon Gruden when he worked for ESPN 10 years ago is disturbing and not what the Raiders stand for,” Raiders owner Mark Davis said in a statement issued Friday evening. “We were first made aware of the email late yesterday by a reporter and are reviewing it along with other materials provided to us today by the NFL. We are addressing the matter with Coach Gruden and will have no further comment at this time.”
So he literally commented here: The content of an email regarding DeMaurice Smith from Jon Gruden when he worked for ESPN 10 years ago is disturbing and not what the Raiders stand for,” Raiders owner Mark Davis said in a statement issued Friday evening. “
And then said they will have no further comments.
I dont know what you're reading.
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His comment basically said that he's pissed off and he's waiting for more details So what is your point?
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His comment basically said that he's pissed off and he's waiting for more details So what is your point?
You said this.
I haven't heard anything yet from the team or Davis Post something if you have it
I posted the link and you posted the article that highlighted what he said, I know what he said as I posted the link.
What’s strange is you said you hadn’t heard anything being said regarding this when a simple google search has several links to Davis’s comment.
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john gruden?
cancel culture trying to come for him?
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I hope >:(
You're black?
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I never liked him as a coach He's an idiot with a $100million contract He was given a solid team on it's way back to it's legendary status and destroyed it by trading away 2 top players in the league so the owner could pay him instead He is an Ahole that the officials can't stand and I don't blame them and now I learn that he is a racist too which isn't surprising
Yes so racist that tony dungy defended Gruden on live tv before Sunday night football
I’m sure Dungy would know gruden at a personal level than you and others speculating he’s racist
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Is there more to this e-mail other than Gruden making fun of this guy’s big lips? If not, the media sensationalizing this non-story looks worse than Gruden himself by insinuating that all blacks have huge lips. That’s racist compared to what Gruden said in the e-mail. I’d like to note that I dislike Gruden and am not a fan.
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Does the guy have big lips?
Case closed.
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Yes so racist that tony dungy defended Gruden on live tv before Sunday night football
Dungy likes his cushy job on TV and wants to keep it. Do you really think that Dungy and many others will call out Gruden as a racist on national TV? I'm just curious how the black players on the Raiders truly feel and how they perform for this asshole for the remainder of the season. If yesterday was any indication the Raiders season could be destined for another losing season as usual under this horrible obnoxious "coach"
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You're black?
I'm a Raider fan
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I hope >:(
Did he hurt your feelings?
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They should release the whole email chain so we can determine what he meant. Lips as big as a brand of tires is a weird comment.
Way too damaging to be released and to the 2nd comment Ya think
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Did he hurt your feelings?
I don't like the guy and never did. He took a potential SuperBowl contender and gave it away
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Dungy likes his cushy job on TV and wants to keep it. Do you really think that Dungy and many others will call out Gruden as a racist on national TV? I'm just curious how the black players on the Raiders truly feel and how they perform for this asshole for the remainder of the season. If yesterday was any indication the Raiders season could be destined for another losing season as usual under this horrible obnoxious "coach"
Huh? Dungy would probably get a promotion if he called out Gruden. He’s an NBC employee and they’re the ones reporting and making a big deal out of this. How would protecting Gruden help Dungy? It was his honest opinion.
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I don't like the guy and never did. He took a potential SuperBowl contender and gave it away
So you are just virtue signaling about an email because in your mind, if the guy is fired the Raiders will magically start winning 🙄
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Dungy likes his cushy job on TV and wants to keep it. Do you really think that Dungy and many others will call out Gruden as a racist on national TV? I'm just curious how the black players on the Raiders truly feel and how they perform for this asshole for the remainder of the season. If yesterday was any indication the Raiders season could be destined for another losing season as usual under this horrible obnoxious "coach"
Lol so Gruden is a racist but Tony Dungy, a man who's reputation is built on character, morality and righteousness, is willing to sell himself out for his TV gig?
You think the NFL publically admonished one of its 32 coaches for these remarks but the tv shows that broadcast the game are telling analysts, in this case a man who is African American, that calling Gruden a racist is bad for business?
Maybe the problem is Tony Dungy is an adult and hes not rushing to an outlandish opinion until he has more information.
Elite level trolling.
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Huh? Dungy would probably get a promotion if he called out Gruden. He’s an NBC employee and they’re the ones reporting and making a big deal out of this. How would protecting Gruden help Dungy? It was his honest opinion.
Dungy calling out Gruden is the same as him taking a knee for the anthem
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So you are just virtue signaling about an email because in your mind, if the guy is fired the Raiders will magically start winning 🙄
Like I said I don't like the guy and I think the team and organiztion would do much better without him I don't know how much of his ridiculou pay package $100million is guaranteed He has about 6 years to go but they should never have brought him out of retirement Nobody else wanted him and now the world knows what kind of guy he is. If you defend him then you are probably just like him
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Like I said I don't like the guy and I think the team and organiztion would do much better without him I don't know how much of his ridiculou pay package $100million is guaranteed He has about 6 years to go but they should never have brought him out of retirement Nobody else wanted him and now the world knows what kind of guy he is. If you defend him then you are probably just like him
I don't care what he said or wrote. The NFL and it's fans are beneath me. I only stated the truth that you are virtue signaling over this matter because you don't like the coach's performance.
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I don't care what he said or wrote. The NFL and it's fans are beneath me. I only stated the truth that you are virtue signaling over this matter because you don't like the coach's performance.
You know very little about me or my character
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Dungy calling out Gruden is the same as him taking a knee for the anthem
That’s a weird analogy. Taking the knee during anthem has had zero repercussions for the kneelers themselves. Have you paid attention to the NFL and all of their racist virtue signaling? You have no idea what you’re even talking about. Your arguments make zero sense. We get it. You hate Gruden because he’s annoying and has a stupid haircut. That’s all you have to say.
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The NFL and it's fans are beneath me.
By saying that you are exposing a lot of your character btw
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You know very little about me or my character
Your posts expose more than you realize. Virtue signaling sports fanatic.
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That’s a weird analogy. Taking the knee during anthem has had zero repercussions for the kneelers themselves.
Some players were maybe still are I don't know But not the guys working in the booth for the TV stations lol
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Like I said I don't like the guy and I think the team and organiztion would do much better without him I don't know how much of his ridiculou pay package $100million is guaranteed He has about 6 years to go but they should never have brought him out of retirement Nobody else wanted him and now the world knows what kind of guy he is. If you defend him then you are probably just like him
You know very little about me or my character
Weird that you can make accurate judgements about others based on one take but no one can do the same with you....
I like this gimmick. He is working.
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Weird that you can make accurate judgements about others based on one take but no one can do the same with you....
I like this gimmick. He is working.
I would judge a persons character "based on one take" only if they did something horrific like the Boston Bomber or Derek Chauvin for example Yet that's exactly what you are doing to me now
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I would judge a persons character "based on one take" only if they did something horrific like the Boston Bomber for example Yet that's exactly what you are doing to me now
I'm just reposting what you've said.
Just like Gruden's emails.
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I'm just reposting what you've said.
Just like Gruden's emails.
I don't know or care what you're talking about
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The NFL is interested in punitive punishment to Gruden for one email they don’t like?
Didn’t Josh Gordon play yesterday after receiving 6-7 lifetime suspensions for drug use?
NFL values…
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I don't know or care what you're talking about
I can tell.
You judge Gruden a racist by one email, which is fine.
But when a member judges you based on your 89 posts here you say they know little about you or your character.
Lol
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I can tell.
You judge Gruden a racist by one email, which is fine.
But when a member judges you based on your 89 posts here you say they know little abou you or your character.
Lol
(https://c.tenor.com/DjFSNIqa5e0AAAAC/touche-dodgeball.gif)
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I can tell.
You judge Gruden a racist by one email, which is fine.
Lol
I am judging Gruden on his performance as a head coach. The fact that he may or may not be a racist as his email may suggest simply adds to my reason for wanting to see him removed for the betterment of the team
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I am judging Gruden on his performance as a head coach. The fact that he may or may not be a racist as his email may suggest simply adds to my reason for wanting to see him removed for the betterment of the team
He sucks as a head coach, but your team has bigger issues with the ownership. Mark willingly gave Gruden that contract.
Imagine who he brings in to replace John, it wont be better.
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These days being a racist is worse than a rapist or murderer
Even those guys get second chances, but if you make a remark about a Hebrew your whole career and life is ruined, Lynch mob after you, no second chances……
Unless the person that made is a Democrat and maybe they will get pass
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What it all boils down to is this. The board is titled gossip and opinions. I gave my personal opinion of this guy. I don't begrudge anyone of their opinion in fact I welcome it but if someone doesn't like to read what I say they have the option not to read it.
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I'm a Raider fan
So the answer is yes. ;D
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So the answer is yes. ;D
The color of my skin is irrelevant but if you really want to know the answer is no
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More emails to come BABY
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I haven't heard anyone say Michellan makes small tires and I know for a fact that they do.
Why does everyone assume it meant his lips are large? Gruden may have meant his lips are the size of Michelan (spare) tires. Implying that the (small) lips look odd on his face.
Is that still racist?
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I haven't heard anyone say Michellan makes small tires and I know for a fact that they do.
Why does everyone assume it meant his lips are large? Gruden may have meant his lips are the size of Michelan (spare) tires. Implying that the (small) lips look odd on his face.
Is that still racist?
Are you John Gruden incognito?
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Are you John Gruden incognito?
Are you Al Sharpton incognito?
Ghey ass gimmick.
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If Davis does the right thing Gruden is finished as the Raider coach
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If Davis does the right thing Gruden is finished as the Raider coach
The whole team was finished before gruden
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The whole team was finished before gruden
The team was finished after Gruden was hired and convinced Davis not to resign Khalil Mack and trade Amari Cooper
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The team was finished after Gruden was hired and convinced Davis not to resign Khalil Mack and trade Amari Cooper
They aren’t going anywhere with or without him
With Mahomes and Herbert in the division raiders were and always trash
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They aren’t going anywhere with or without him
With Mahomes and Herbert in the division raiders were and always trash
KC has their own problems on the field but that's for arr different thread Having said that I would trade Gruden and Carr for Reid and Mahomes in a heartbeat
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He’s gone..breaking news on Monday Night Football. Don Rickles would have been canceled
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Yahoo SportsYahoo Sports
Jon Gruden reportedly tells staff he plans to resign as Raiders coach after more emails surface
How about that!!!!
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He’s gone..breaking news on Monday Night Football. Don Rickles would have been canceled
Pathetic
If it was a black coach or black person saying it, nothing would have been done
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Gruden is taking a job as Color Analyst for NBC.
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Gruden is taking a job as Color Analyst for NBC.
Grudens association with anything related to NFL or television is over forever hahaha
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Yahoo SportsYahoo Sports
Jon Gruden reportedly tells staff he plans to resign as Raiders coach after more emails surface
How about that!!!!
We’re all very happy for you
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Grudens association with anything related to NFL or television is over forever hahaha
Still has millions on top of millions of dollars, he’ll be ok
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Pathetic
If it was a black coach or black person saying it, nothing would have been done
Yep
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randy moss was literally crying over his comment, how can anybody take blacks seriously when they are so sensitive?
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Pathetic
If it was a black coach or black person saying it, nothing would have been done
What a stupid thing to say
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randy moss was literally crying over his comment, how can anybody take blacks seriously when they are so sensitive?
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Randy Moss once hit a traffic officer with a car.
The officer was a woman. I’m not sure of her race but I’ll assume she was white.
His response to how he would pay the $10k fine, “Straight cash homie.”
Was he acting lovingly?
I wonder what type of tires were on his car.
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Gruden said nothing wrong in his emails.
He is less than a man for apologizing, and even less than that for resigning.
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Randy Moss once hit a traffic officer with a car.
The officer was a woman. I’m not sure of her race but I’ll assume she was white.
His response to how he would pay the $10k fine, “Straight cash homie.”
Was he acting lovingly?
I wonder what type of tires were on his car.
and when a female reporter questioned him about it, he addressed her as "woman"
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What a stupid thing to say
Because it is true you scumbag
They would sweep it under the rug and say “that was a long time ago” “he’s changed” “his apology was sincere” “blah blah blah”
But since the parson is white the lynch mob is after him
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randy moss was literally crying over his comment, how can anybody take blacks seriously when they are so sensitive?
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What a fucking pussy he is, that POS was a disgrace, any raiders fans should never take anything that quitter says or does seriously
If it wasn’t for football and all the chances he was given and privileges he would be either be dead, locked up or selling drugs
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randy moss was literally crying over his comment, how can anybody take blacks seriously when they are so sensitive?
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They want equality except when they don't.
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This just kills me. White men have been racist for 400 yrs in the Americas, LOL but they are supposed to change because some feelings were hurt, LOL. He could keep his job. Black men should be worried about owning 50% of those teams while making up over 80% or so of the talent. FOH with racist. White men will literally wipe each other in World Wars. JG is nothing more than a bone for the fools. Obviously, he pissed off one of the owners behind closed doors.
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Lips in question...
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"The remaining balance of Gruden's deal will be voided as a result of his resignation"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jon-gruden-contract-what-raiders-coach-s-resignation-means-for-future-salary-guarantees/ar-AAPoubB
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"The remaining balance of Gruden's deal will be voided as a result of his resignation"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jon-gruden-contract-what-raiders-coach-s-resignation-means-for-future-salary-guarantees/ar-AAPoubB
He should have stayed until he was fired.
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League likely would have kept leaking emails, until Jon Gruden was out
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/11/league-likely-would-have-kept-leaking-emails-until-jon-gruden-was-out/
"The obvious takeaway from Monday’s stunning leak of homophobic/transphobic/sexists emails following Friday’s stunning leak of one single racist email is that the NFL wanted Gruden out, and that the leaks were going to continue until he resigned or was fired."
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He should have stayed until he was fired.
Absolutely. Maybe the owner made a deal with him on the side.
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Absolutely. Maybe the owner made a deal with him on the side.
Probably did.
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This cancel culture bullshit looks like it's here to stay. It's going to be part of our society's downfall.
The sad thing, is all of the hypocritical fucks out there, who lead the charge in these types of things.
Every single one of us, have said shit in the past that would get us in hot water in today's climate.
The mistake Gruden made, and what most people make, is leaving a paper trail with emails and social media posts.
Have you guys seen Dave Chappelle's new special? Now the LGBTQ are trying to cancel his ass over some jokes!
Pathetic, weak, culture we have become.
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This cancel culture bullshit looks like it's here to stay. It's going to be part of our society's downfall.
The sad thing, is all of the hypocritical fucks out there, who lead the charge in these types of things.
Every single one of us, have said shit in the past that would get us in hot water in today's climate.
The mistake Gruden made, and what most people make, is leaving a paper trail with emails and social media posts.
Have you guys seen Dave Chappelle's new special? Now the LGBTQ are trying to cancel his ass over some jokes!
Pathetic, weak, culture we have become.
Everyone on Getbig would have been cancelled a long time ago. :D
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Good riddance.
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"The remaining balance of Gruden's deal will be voided as a result of his resignation"
Great news
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Because it is true you scumbag
They would sweep it under the rug and say “that was a long time ago” “he’s changed” “his apology was sincere” “blah blah blah”
But since the parson is white the lynch mob is after him
If one black man made a joke about the size of another black mans lips?
You are a fucking moron hahaha
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Good riddance.
He was stupid to leave a paper trail. However, I'm willing to bet that you have said some things in your life, that today's cancel culture would be up in arms over. Don't be a hypocrite.
These people are way too sensitive, and the powers that be, are using it to their advantage.
It's getting to the point where they can remove anyone they want.
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He was stupid to leave a paper trail. However, I'm willing to bet that you have said some things in your life, that today's cancel culture would be up in arms over. Don't be a hypocrite.
These people are way too sensitive, and the powers that be, are using it to their advantage.
It's getting to the point where they can remove anyone they want.
That is your comeback? You would make a lousy defense attorney. ::)
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That is your comeback? You would make a lousy defense attorney. ::)
I wasn't defending Gruden. He is a moron.
I'm just saying that every single one of us is guilty of saying things in our life, that these softies would cry over. My point is: don't be a hypocrite.
Maybe someday someone will be saying "good riddance" about you. You aren't better than anyone else.
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He was stupid to leave a paper trail. However, I'm willing to bet that you have said some things in your life, that today's cancel culture would be up in arms over. Don't be a hypocrite.
These people are way too sensitive, and the powers that be, are using it to their advantage.
It's getting to the point where they can remove anyone they want.
Everyone has said something once in their lives to offend someone. the best story is this woman who was going to the be youngest editor of Vogue magazine. Some jealous bitch dug up old tweets where she said shit about asians so they didn't give this person the job but then the same person that brought this shit up had tweets where she said kneegar so they fired her. haha. People are just kunts today.
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He was stupid to leave a paper trail. However, I'm willing to bet that you have said some things in your life, that today's cancel culture would be up in arms over. Don't be a hypocrite.
These people are way too sensitive, and the powers that be, are using it to their advantage.
It's getting to the point where they can remove anyone they want.
Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?
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Everyone has said something once in their lives to offend someone. the best story is this woman who was going to the be youngest editor of Vogue magazine. Some jealous bitch dug up old tweets where she said shit about asians so they didn't give this person the job but then the same person that brought this shit up had tweets where she said kneegar so they fired her. haha. People are just kunts today.
Exactly my point. This age old saying applies here: Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.
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Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?
Im saying that EVERYONE has said something that would potentially offend others.
Does that mean everyone should be fired or shamed into resigning? The fact is, if Gruden never wrote those emails, and instead spoke the same things in person, he still would have his job.
He sealed his fate when he talked shit about the head of the players union, Roger Goodell, and NFL owners. Way too many powerful people wanted him gone.
If you have ever made a race joke, you are now a racist.
If you have ever referred to a woman as a slut, then you are a mysoginist.
If you have ever made a gay joke or said someone is a fag, you are homophobic.
See how ridiculous this is all becoming?
By today's cancel culture standards, we are all of the above and more.
Which is why I say don't be a hypocrite.
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Im saying that EVERYONE has said something that would potentially offend others.
He offended everyone of color everyone who is gay and he probably offended all women
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Does that mean everyone should be fired or shamed into resigning? The fact is, if Gruden never wrote those emails, and instead spoke the same things in person, he still would have his job.
People who are in the public eye especially in sports where many children look up to and admire them do need to show respect for others and yes had he just said those nasty comments without the evidence he would still have his job just like Derek Chauvin would still be a police officer had there been no video of his murder of George Floyd
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context and nuance matters....
gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......
like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...
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He called Biden a “Clueless nervous pussy”
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Why is someone digging up 10 year old emails anyways? How did the NYT get access to them?
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He called Biden a “Clueless nervous pussy”
I went from hating Gruden to loving him based on that quote alone. That and the Roger Goodell ripfest.
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Why is someone digging up 10 year old emails anyways? How did the NYT get access to them?
See my above post and that’s part of the reason
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context and nuance matters....
gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......
like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...
Gruden should have identified as a gay African American transgender woman imprisoned in a white mans body.
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This cancel culture bullshit looks like it's here to stay. It's going to be part of our society's downfall.
The sad thing, is all of the hypocritical fucks out there, who lead the charge in these types of things.
Every single one of us, have said shit in the past that would get us in hot water in today's climate.
The mistake Gruden made, and what most people make, is leaving a paper trail with emails and social media posts.
Have you guys seen Dave Chappelle's new special? Now the LGBTQ are trying to cancel his ass over some jokes!
Pathetic, weak, culture we have become.
You must be off the soy bro, I didn’t even realize this was you posting.
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Good riddance.
That will look good on your tombstone when you inevitably take your own life, rump ranger.
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Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?
Are you a Strawman gimmick? You can't really be this weak minded.
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That will look good on your tombstone when you inevitably take your own life, rump ranger.
Are you in junior high school? If you want to insult me you will have to try harder. ::)
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Are you in junior high school? If you want to insult me you will have to try harder. ::)
No one is trying to insult you, flip boy. Just stating facts.
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context and nuance matters....
gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......
like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...
Liars are pathetic
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Al Davis would have given him a raise
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Im saying that EVERYONE has said something that would potentially offend others.
Does that mean everyone should be fired or shamed into resigning? The fact is, if Gruden never wrote those emails, and instead spoke the same things in person, he still would have his job.
He sealed his fate when he talked shit about the head of the players union, Roger Goodell, and NFL owners. Way too many powerful people wanted him gone.
If you have ever made a race joke, you are now a racist.
If you have ever referred to a woman as a slut, then you are a mysoginist.
If you have ever made a gay joke or said someone is a fag, you are homophobic.
See how ridiculous this is all becoming?
By today's cancel culture standards, we are all of the above and more.
Which is why I say don't be a hypocrite.
Go suck a cock, you guy loving, obese, impotent, alcoholic phaggot.
Cancel this suckboi! 😁
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Gruden will get another job.
He only said bad stuff. Guys like Antonio Brown, Richard Sherman, Frank Clark, Aldon Smith, etc….
actually committed crimes against people and they are still employed.
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context and nuance matters....
gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......
like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...
Are you in grade school referring to homo as the ‘F’ word? Lol. Fuck is the F word. Let me tell you. When you see the N word. Don’t you actually think the full word in your head? Think about it.
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Im saying that EVERYONE has said something that would potentially offend others.
Does that mean everyone should be fired or shamed into resigning? The fact is, if Gruden never wrote those emails, and instead spoke the same things in person, he still would have his job.
He sealed his fate when he talked shit about the head of the players union, Roger Goodell, and NFL owners. Way too many powerful people wanted him gone.
If you have ever made a race joke, you are now a racist.
If you have ever referred to a woman as a slut, then you are a mysoginist.
If you have ever made a gay joke or said someone is a fag, you are homophobic.
See how ridiculous this is all becoming?
By today's cancel culture standards, we are all of the above and more.
Which is why I say don't be a hypocrite.
make your jokes, whatever don't leave a digital trail. If i started suddenly making racist jokes on linkedin.. i should prob get fired,
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context and nuance matters....
gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......
like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...
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Why is someone digging up 10 year old emails anyways? How did the NYT get access to them?
The NFL is releasing these Gruden emails. Nice.
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context and nuance matters....
gruden using the "F" word about others, racist and misogyny terms and so on and on a REGULAR basis is quite different from any of us once in awhile or a long time ago telling a bad joke... Personally? i've never used the "F" word or the "N" word in anyway......
like i said context and nuance matters!.. if someone shoot you and another person slaps your hand they are NOT the same thing and should be judged accordingly!...
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If one black man made a joke about the size of another black mans lips?
You are a fucking moron hahaha
The moron is you when you look at yourself in the mirror everyday
You being a raiders fan speaks volumes of self ownage
No need for me to go on any further
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Gruden will get another job.
He only said bad stuff. Guys like Antonio Brown, Richard Sherman, Frank Clark, Aldon Smith, etc….
actually committed crimes against people and they are still employed.
You forgot one difference…..
I don’t see him ever coaching in the NFL again. If it was the 90’s, he’d be back but not nowadays. His best bet is it take to social media for football commentary and film breakdowns unless they also ban him.
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Gruden was "cancelled" simple as that. It started with an Investigation into Dan Snyder and looking into his private emails..over 650,000 of them. They happened to see Grudens name within some of those emails WHEN HE WASN'T EVEN IN THE LEAGUE during that time. Did what he say some things that were offensive? yes, but in this day and age everything is offensive. These were private emails. Ever been on the sidelines, locker room or practice? Gruden was a byproduct of that investigation that he wasn't even apart of
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“The NFL’s values…”
It is a league of corrupt owners, felons, anti-American assholes, drug addicts, murderers, and wifebeaters.
The NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB can all FOAD.
Disco. It's all lip service and meaningless shit.
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You forgot one difference…..
I don’t see him ever coaching in the NFL again. If it was the 90’s, he’d be back but not nowadays. His best bet is it take to social media for football commentary and film breakdowns unless they also ban him.
No I agree he won’t be coaching again.
I was just pointing out how dumb it is that words mean more than actions in out society.
But we saw it with the last Presidental election, Trumps offensive words were worse than his “good” actions. Meanwhile we elected a guy who voted as much “racist” legislation as anyone, who is as equally self serving btw, but said what people wanted to hear.
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Gruden will be hired by Barstool Sports within one month. They are huge. Very deep pockets. And the the CEO hates NFL commissioner Roger Godell.
Barstool Sports and Gruden are a perfect fit.
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No I agree he won’t be coaching again.
I was just pointing out how dumb it is that words mean more than actions in out society.
But we saw it with the last Presidental election, Trumps offensive words were worse than his “good” actions. Meanwhile we elected a guy who voted as much “racist” legislation as anyone, who is as equally self serving btw, but said what people wanted to hear.
I doubt he'll being doing anything related to the NFL again. Too bad, he was a good coach
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Gruden will be hired by Barstool Sports within one month. They are huge. Very deep pockets. And the the CEO hates NFL commissioner Roger Godell.
Barstool Sports and Gruden are a perfect fit.
Goodell is such leftist piece of shit that he's fucked over the NFL and the fans over big time with this "social justice" bullshit that no one wants to watch...at least the pre-game crap and the changing of the rules makes it almost like fucking flag football
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Goodell is such leftist piece of shit that he's fucked over the NFL and the fans over big time with this "social justice" bullshit that no one wants to watch...at least the pre-game crap and the changing of the rules makes it almost like fucking flag football
It will be interesting to see how the NFL tries to spin this whole event. If they were "releasing" emails until Gruden was pressured to quit or be fired that could be viewed as blackmail/strong arming, which would be illegal.
They almost have to release all the emails at this point.
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It will be interesting to see how the NFL tries to spin this whole event. If they were "releasing" emails until Gruden was pressured to quit or be fired that could be viewed as blackmail/strong arming, which would be illegal.
They almost have to release all the emails at this point.
I just heard from an attorney on Newsmax that the releasing of those emails was illegal possibly due to a privacy act since Gruden wasn't apart of the NFL when those emails were exchanged.
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I just heard from an attorney on Newsmax that the releasing of those emails was illegal possibly due to a privacy act since Gruden wasn't apart of the NFL when those emails were exchanged.
Yeah, his career is ruined but I hope the NFL is held responsible for leaking these when they refused to release any information regarding the sexual misconduct with WFT's owner and leadership.
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Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?
did you know all that before the tv told you so
fucking goof
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Gruden was 4th highest paid NFL head coach at $10 mil a year.
Chump change for a Getbigger.
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gruden get his full salary still?
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gruden get his full salary still?
Nope. He resigned and forfeits all future salary including unpaid for the current season.
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Nope. He resigned and forfeits all future salary including unpaid for the current season.
I'm sure part of his resignation agreement was a nice bonus to walk away quietly so the team can move on.
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Nope. He resigned and forfeits all future salary including unpaid for the current season.
He fucked up. He should have forced them to fire him and he would have had a lawsuit especially because the emails were from before he was back in the league. NEVER RESIGN!
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Gruden did not look healthy lately.
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Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?
HAHAHA!
A small children being told what to think and then repeating what he was told.
Another coward.
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Gruden is a racist misogynist homophobic narcissistic ASSHOLE and your only criticism of him is that he was stupid to leave a paper trail?
If your father had stuck around to raise you, he would have been disappointed to see what a beta cuck phaggot you turned out to be.
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ESPN seems overly concerned about the people who worked with Gruden over the years, and ESPN wants more people to lose their jobs.