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Title: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 18, 2022, 04:06:03 PM
It seems that they decided to take Heath Ledger's Joker and turn it up a notch.  Darker, even more disfigured, even more cryptic, even more philosophical.  Really?  This is what you came up with?

In my opinion the manlet actor they chose is wrong, but it's more than that.  It looks like some fucked over try-hard shit out of a bad fan film.  Total dog crap.  I fucking hate it.

However......it appears that I am in the minority on this one.  The comments that I've seen are overwhelmingly positive.  People seem to really like it and that is what's shocking to me.  The Fuck?

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Post by: Dave D on April 18, 2022, 06:04:19 PM
The Heath Ledger Joker was an iconic portrayal.

But it was also 14 years ago, this series is for a new generation.
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Post by: Marty Champions on April 18, 2022, 06:05:20 PM
Movies have sucked for 20 years on
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Post by: Rusty Trombone on April 18, 2022, 06:37:21 PM
Movies have sucked for 20 years on

Exactly, movies post year 2000 suck and I don't watch them.
Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 18, 2022, 07:56:44 PM
The Heath Ledger Joker was an iconic portrayal.

But it was also 14 years ago, this series is for a new generation.

The new generation is fucked.  Mentally unhinged and more like the Joker than they are decent human beings.

I liked what Heath did but even his portrayal was highly stylized and not particularly accurate to the character as he had been written up to that point.  Jack Nicholson was great but Jack pretty much always plays a version of Jack.  I'm hoping to get back to the actual character of the Joker but that ship has probably sailed.  I'd love to see a Joker that is somewhere in between.......

(https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/theapparty/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2014/11/joker_BTAS.jpg)

and.....

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Post by: Dave D on April 18, 2022, 08:24:25 PM
The new generation is fucked.  Mentally unhinged and more like the Joker than they are decent human beings.

I liked what Heath did but even his portrayal was highly stylized and not particularly accurate to the character as he had been written up to that point.  Jack Nicholson was great but Jack pretty much always plays a version of Jack.  I'm hoping to get back to the actual character of the Joker but that ship has probably sailed.  I'd love to see a Joker that is somewhere in between.......

(https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/theapparty/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2014/11/joker_BTAS.jpg)

and.....

(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/f1bb1b75c3a53a1b5042e37bdf7a9312-1200-80.jpg)

Well said.

I was going to reference Nicholson’s Joker being completely different than Ledgers, and to your point Jack was playing Jack.

The hard part for these comic movies is staying true to the character and nature of the comic. I enjoyed this Batman for what it was. I think the Dark Knight series would be impossible to beat BUT this version  wasn’t a complete let down. It stole some elements from Batman Begins and tried to create its own version of Batman. It was not as bad as  I thought it would be.
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on April 19, 2022, 12:48:49 AM
So you think it's watchable? My girlfriend is trying to get me to watch it with her but it looked like a pile of shit from the clips I saw. I suspect I'll find that Pattinson guy and his 'emo' demeanor quite annoying. I also hated Heath Ledger's Joker and feel like he got an Oscar for dying as opposed to acting.
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Post by: Gym-Rat on April 19, 2022, 01:16:44 AM
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Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: joswift on April 19, 2022, 01:18:08 AM
At 57 I could fuck up the current Batman
Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: BlackMetallic on April 19, 2022, 02:12:04 AM
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Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 19, 2022, 05:21:53 AM
You don’t understand the timeline here. Batman is in year 2 of his crime fighting days. Still raw and still figuring shit out. Rudimentary costume and gadgets.  The car was spot on. The best version of the bat mobile.  It wasn’t built from the ground up but was an old muscle car supped up which makes more sense. This version of batman goes to the more darker side detective style of Batman.  Not as over the top cartoony shit.  The riddler wasn’t some flamboyant fag with a question mark jacket but some mentally deranged man.  They tried to make this more real and raw. 
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Post by: pamith on April 19, 2022, 07:32:20 AM
Brutal if true
Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 19, 2022, 07:37:42 AM
Liked the visuals of the movie, soundtrack, dark theme and more violent nature to batman.

I liked Pattison as Batman when he was in disguise. Out of the suit, I hated his look and overall physical attributes. I also didn't like his voice.

Crazy as it sounds, a more rugged actor, like a Josh Brolin would be my pick.

"1"
Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: joswift on April 19, 2022, 07:39:02 AM
Liked the visuals of the movie, soundtrack, dark theme and more violent nature to batman.

I liked Pattison as Batman when he was in disguise. Out of the suit, I hated his look and overall physical attributes. I also didn't like his voice.

Crazy as it sounds, a more rugged actor, like a Josh Brolin would be my pick.

"1"
He would be perfect
Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 19, 2022, 12:46:52 PM
Josh Brolin would have been perfect for the later Batman years over aflleck for sure.  As a young Batman he’s too old. 
Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: Dave D on April 19, 2022, 01:44:25 PM
Josh Brolin would have been perfect for the later Batman years over aflleck for sure.  As a young Batman he’s too old.

This. I thought I would hate Afflack as Batman. Turns out I just disliked him.
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Post by: Pray_4_War on April 19, 2022, 06:17:52 PM
This new one looks kinda cool but the last several versions of the Batman cowl/mask have looked pretty queer.  More like dog masks than bat masks.

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Post by: Pray_4_War on April 19, 2022, 09:45:51 PM
I just saw this interview with Director Matt Reeves.  They are trying to make the Joker cerebral like Hannibal Lecter.  Unfortunately, the actor they chose looks like he should be auditioning for an "I am Sam" prequel. 

#derp #failarmy #tryhard



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Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: galain on April 19, 2022, 10:57:48 PM
I'm a little over Batman and superhero movies in general although I loved them for a long time. Haven't seen anything of the new film except what's on Youtube. This Joker clip is probably the thing that has interested me the most.

I'm not sure how they'd pull it off though. If he's supposed to be insane (and a genius?) then I think this short clip does a great job catching that.

But I can't see how you'd sustain a characterisation like this over the course of a whole film. It'd just be some dude laughing like a retard for 2 hours, which wouldn't work. Make him cerebral and you might not see how twisted he is.
Title: Re: "The Batman" was a very good movie but I'm perplexed by the new Joker.
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 19, 2022, 11:06:21 PM
Here is an interesting sculpture that is supposed to represent the Joker from the deleted scenes.  I find the look very off-putting but that's just me.

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Post by: Flexacon on April 20, 2022, 07:42:03 AM
Liked the visuals of the movie, soundtrack, dark theme and more violent nature to batman.

I liked Pattison as Batman when he was in disguise. Out of the suit, I hated his look and overall physical attributes. I also didn't like his voice.

Crazy as it sounds, a more rugged actor, like a Josh Brolin would be my pick.

"1"

Brolin is too short, or more accurately his physical proportions are similar to a midgets. Short legs and long torso.

Henry Cavill would have been a great batman, but he's already been superman.
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 20, 2022, 08:20:34 AM
Spoiler for those who haven’t seen it.



How many people do you think died from the flood? It looked vicious.  Possibly thousands.   That would make the riddler the deadliest of characters. 

As for the joker being more like Hannibal. I can see he. He is very cerebral but also insane.   He is also physically imposing. He can take hits from Batman and still remain standing.

I didn’t like the woke black mayor who stood her ground and wouldn’t leave.  Total bullshit. Tell any black woman that there is a slight chance their hair could get wet and they’d be gone in an instant.

This is also due to the woke Oscar movement.  They won’t nominate any movie that doesn’t give ample screen time to colored folk.
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Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 21, 2022, 03:14:21 AM
Movies have sucked for 20 years on
It gets worse every year. I try to stay up with the times but these new movies are just awful.
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Post by: falco on April 21, 2022, 05:41:07 AM
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Post by: G_Thang on April 21, 2022, 05:58:27 AM
This is also due to the woke Oscar movement.  They won’t nominate any movie that doesn’t give ample screen time to colored folk.

I would expect nothing less from a Latino who worships the ground a white man pisses on.  :)
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Post by: thebrink on April 21, 2022, 05:52:29 PM
Modern Hollywood 'writers' trying to be philosophical never turns out well lol
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Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 22, 2022, 08:57:21 AM
Modern Hollywood 'writers' trying to be philosophical never turns out well lol
I'm surprised they didn't make Trump the Joker's handler.
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Post by: ChristopherA on April 22, 2022, 09:25:42 AM
The Batman was awesome. Wasn't sure I'd like Pattinson as Batman. I heard hes one and done and not doing anymore Batman movies and I'm bummed to hear that. The car chase scene was so epic
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Post by: joswift on April 22, 2022, 09:32:45 AM
The Batman was awesome. Wasn't sure I'd like Pattinson as Batman. I heard hes one and done and not doing anymore Batman movies and I'm bummed to hear that. The car chase scene was so epic

did you watch it with bhanks?
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Post by: Dave D on April 22, 2022, 11:18:57 AM
The Batman was awesome. Wasn't sure I'd like Pattinson as Batman. I heard hes one and done and not doing anymore Batman movies and I'm bummed to hear that. The car chase scene was so epic

All these guys are one and done; Robert Downey Jr, Christian Bale, Chris Evans, Tobey Macguire…. Until the next check comes. Saying you’re one and done drives up fan demand. This movie was made with multiple sequels in mind. He’s coming back.
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Post by: thebrink on April 23, 2022, 07:31:22 AM
I'm surprised they didn't make Trump the Joker's handler.

You mean like a manager? Loll
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on June 28, 2022, 02:22:37 AM
Tried to watch this last night but I got bored and turned it off. I'll give it another try just because I know Colin Farrell is a great actor and I might enjoy some scenes. Just couldn't get into it, though. Pattinson is a little dork. He looks and acts like he should be cutting his arms in his bedroom and writing 'Kurt was murdered' on the school bus window. Emo twat.

Catwoman is hot but her resting bitch face bugs me, too. Actually, fuck this, I'm not going to bother watching it again.
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Post by: ProudVirgin69 on June 28, 2022, 02:28:36 AM
I'm a little over Batman and superhero movies in general although I loved them for a long time. Haven't seen anything of the new film except what's on Youtube. This Joker clip is probably the thing that has interested me the most.


100%

ANOTHER Batman remake?? Lol Hollywood is so creatively bankrupt it’s not even funny
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Post by: Griffith on June 28, 2022, 07:54:47 AM
The 'Joker' movie was excellent though.
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Post by: Humble Narcissist on June 28, 2022, 08:01:40 AM
100%

ANOTHER Batman remake?? Lol Hollywood is so creatively bankrupt it’s not even funny
They definitely could use an influx of new creative talent. All movies now are too formulaic.
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Post by: G_Thang on June 29, 2022, 09:26:46 PM
Catwoman is hot but her resting bitch face bugs me, too. Actually, fuck this, I'm not going to bother watching it again.

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They were down to 2 and still made the wrong choice. Kravitz is not hot.
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Post by: Beefjake on June 30, 2022, 12:23:31 AM
100%
ANOTHER Batman remake?? Lol Hollywood is so creatively bankrupt it’s not even funny
True: Best films I’ve seen in a while have been sequels or similar.

Blade Runner 2047 was excellent as was Maverick.
Last Rambo not so much but it wasn’t bad.

Star Wars newest three were just old scenes reshooted.

Superhero genre is exhausted. How many origin stories can you do about Batman? Typically I like more about DCs darker style but somehow studios seem to ef ’em up.
With Marvel the Avengers movies stayed fairly entertaining and GoG we’re good entertainment.
Hate Waikikis goofy/funny Thor.

In the comic Jane had the power of Thor for a while but cought cancer from it. Hope it happens is a movie as well. I hate that bony chick.
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Post by: Phantom Spunker on June 30, 2022, 12:31:15 AM
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They were down to 2 and still made the wrong choice. Kravitz is not hot.

True, she looks atrocious there. Hard to find a good photo of her. She's got great bone structure, though.
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Post by: pamith on June 30, 2022, 01:43:05 AM
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Post by: Hulkotron on June 30, 2022, 03:17:57 AM
I liked The Batman.  Pattinson was surprisingly good in the role.

The scene where you see Joker was cut.  I would bet in sequels they recast him.