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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on May 28, 2022, 07:37:48 PM
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Ok Bud, time to get serious if you can. Next to Strawman and Lurker you’re the biggest annoying troll here. Set the troll part aside and let’s have a serious debate about gun and guns.
If you’re willing to have a serious common sense debate, let’s do it here. Like every liberal out there, you shit on the graves of 19 children and 2 teachers. This wont be about what mistakes the cops made, this will be about the policies you support and the guns you’re against
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He can't. I exposed him in the Covid thread. He's just a troll doing troll things.
No substance at all.
When cornered, he deflects or responds with memes.
The ignore feature was built for him.
Put him on ignore - not worth your time.
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He can't. I exposed him in the Covid thread. He's just a troll doing troll things.
No substance at all.
When cornered, he deflects or responds with memes.
The ignore feature was built for him.
Put him on ignore - not worth your time.
This is why I started this thread. To see if he can actually debate his stance
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Ok Bud, time to get serious if you can. Next to Strawman and Lurker you’re the biggest annoying troll here. Set the troll part aside and let’s have a serious debate about gun and guns.
If you’re will to have a serious common sense debate, let’s do it here. Like every liberal out there, you shit on the graves of 19 children and 2 teachers. This wont be about what mistakes the cops made, this will be about the policies you support and the guns you’re against
Ok.
If gun control isn’t the answer what’s your solution to this problem?
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This is why I started this thread. To see if he can actually debate his stance
He can't.
It's been proven multiple times.
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Ok.
If gun control isn’t the answer what’s your solution to this problem?
We have over 20k “gun control” laws on the books. Tell us which one would have stopped anything. I said what should be done all throughout the other thread
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We have over 20k “gun control” laws on the books. Tell us which one would have stopped anything
You didn’t answer my question.
You’re in charge. How do you address the school shooting crisis?
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Ok.
If gun control isn’t the answer what’s your solution to this problem?
I can go see a guy I know and get any gun illegally tonight within the hour. So please explain what gun laws would do in this case? Oh yeah the only thing it would do is stop a normal guy from having a gun for protection but any lunatic can still buy one to kill someone. Gun laws would do nothing except have a criminal get one another way and if they are willing to kill people they will go another way to get it.
I do think that no one under 25 should be allowed to buy an assault rifle though.
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I can go see a guy I know and get any gun illegally tonight within the hour. So please explain what gun laws would do in this case? Oh yeah the only thing it would do is stop a normal guy from having a gun for protection but any lunatic can still buy one to kill someone. Gun laws would do nothing except have a criminal get one another way and if they are willing to kill people they will go another way to get it.
Exactly.
Clowns who think more laws and bans will stop criminals and lunatics from accessing firearms …
Just off-the-charts inability to recognize reality.
I suppose that kinda describes, in a general sense, lefttards/libtards, though.
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You didn’t answer my question.
You’re in charge. How do you address the school shooting crisis?
Let’s start with arming and training teachers, faculty and administration (volunteer basis). A trained RO, active or retired military or LEO on campus depending on the size the of the school, one in place for each quadrant of the school. Example, the HS where I coach has 3200 students. Take the layout of the school divided into 4 and place armed security (along with the volunteer faculty who is willing to be armed and trained. In each quadrant.
Then we can get into the external security
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I can go see a guy I know and get any gun illegally tonight within the hour. So please explain what gun laws would do in this case? Oh yeah the only thing it would do is stop a normal guy from having a gun for protection but any lunatic can still buy one to kill someone. Gun laws would do nothing except have a criminal get one another way and if they are willing to kill people they will go another way to get it.
I do think that no one under 25 should be allowed to buy an assault rifle though.
Yep
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Ok.
If gun control isn’t the answer what’s your solution to this problem?
And thanks to guns, this doesn't happen in the USA, you stupid shit:
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Let’s start with arming and training teachers, faculty and administration (volunteer basis). A trained RO, active or retired military or LEO on campus depending on the size the of the school, one in place for each quadrant of the school. Example, the HS where I coach has 3200 students. Take the layout of the school divided into 4 and place armed security (along with the volunteer faculty who is willing to be armed and trained. In each quadrant.
Then we can get into the external security
There were 19 armed police officers at Uvalde.
I don’t see how lack of guns was the problem here.
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And thanks to guns, this doesn't happen in the USA, you stupid shit:
And that’s exactly why that happened
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Yep
The majority of guns in mass shootings in the US are purchased legally.
Stricter gun control would be helpful here.
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There were 19 armed police officers at Uvalde.
I don’t see how lack of guns was the problem here.
Talking about being proactive, chief
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There were 19 armed police officers at Uvalde.
I don’t see how lack of guns was the problem here.
Hey, dumb shit - I was just locked out of public gyms for six months because of people like you. THAT'S why citizens should have guns.
Because without them, we will be dragged into camps.
And you're concerned about like 2,500 deaths since 2009?
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT 2,500 WHEN 25 MILLION WOULD DIE IF COMMUNISM WAS IMPLEMENTED IN NORTH AMERICA?
THAT'S the point of the second amendment. So dumb assholes like you don't take away my rights over a virus with a 99.9% survival rate.
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The majority of guns in mass shootings in the US are purchased legally.
Stricter gun control would be helpful here.
So?
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The majority of guns in mass shootings in the US are purchased legally.
Stricter gun control would be helpful here.
Which laws would have stopped it? If he didn’t buy it legally he would have got it illegally. Do you actually think if he wasn’t able to purchase it legally he would have just said “fuck it”? Do you think this was spur of the moment or premeditated?
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The majority of guns in mass shootings in the US are purchased legally.
Stricter gun control would be helpful here.
Dumb asshole - THE STATES WITH THE STRICTEST GUN CONTROL HAVE THE HIGHEST VIOLENCE RATES, SO YOU ARE WRONG. The Brady Report Card on gun control shows that!
The USA has more gun violence because 70% of their murders are committed by their Black and Hispanic population.
Take away those murders, and White Americans and White Canadians both have a 2.0 per 100,000 per year murder rate.
Yes, the USA has a mass shooting a month, but that's only like 100 deaths a year.
Who gives a fuck?
I'd rather have the peace of mind knowing my government can't take power.
Also GENIUS OAK:
How do you plan to take away the guns from the Americana who have guns.
How will you do that?
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And thanks to guns, this doesn't happen in the USA, you stupid shit:
LOL
And Matt ruins the thread again.
I should have known GetBig wasn’t capable of serious debate.
Goodnight ladies!
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LOL
And Matt ruins the thread again.
I should have known GetBig wasn’t capable of serious debate.
Goodnight ladies!
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Why are you saying goodnight already? Matt’s on the east coast and engaging, why are you backing down?
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Hey OAK, tell us your thoughts about the NRA
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Why are you saying goodnight already? Matt’s on the east coast and engaging, why are you backing down?
I gave that dumbass plenty of facts to address. He can start by addressing my comment that the PRIMARY difference between Canadian and American murder rates is due to the giant racial disparity.
As for "mass shootings":
- If we are talking about 4+ person shootings, these are largely Black-on-Black drive-by shootings, or crack house raids by other users/dealers.
- If we are talking about 8+ person shootings, that results in, what, 100 extra deaths per year in the USA? 100 deaths? So...the average American has like a 0.004738% greater chance of dying in the USA due to these shootings than the average Canadian? Oooh, I'm getting scared! LOL!
- It's a trade-off: YES, the USA has more mass shootings, and one of the reasons for this, IMO, is easier access to such weapons - BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT. YOU GET AN EXTRA 100 DEATHS A YEAR. THE POINT OF THIS IS TO STOP A PERSON LIKE KLAUS SCHWAB OR STALIN FROM TAKING OVER THE USA.
Again - it's a trade-off.
OAK can FEEL FREE to address any of this, but he won't.
Doesn't matter that I called him a dumb fuck. I did. He can simply ADDRESS ANY OF MY ACTUAL POINTS.
But he won't, because he doesn't care if the government has the power to take control of its citizens, because he thinks it won't happen to him.
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LOL
And Matt ruins the thread again.
I should have known GetBig wasn’t capable of serious debate.
Goodnight ladies!
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Incinerated on the first page. So OAK tucks tail and bails.
Typical braindead Lib living in some make-believe reality.
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In Canada, you get shot for walking down the street with knives, or BB guns:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pellet-gun-man-dead-toronto-schools-lockdowns-1.6467895
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If Canadians - and some Americans apparently - are scared of living in a free society, just WAIT until they live in one where the government has all the power.
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I gave that dumbass plenty of facts to address. He can start by addressing my comment that the PRIMARY difference between Canadian and American murder rates is due to the giant racial disparity.
As for "mass shootings":
- If we are talking about 4+ person shootings, these are largely Black-on-Black drive-by shootings, or crack house raids by other users/dealers.
- If we are talking about 8+ person shootings, that results in, what, 100 extra deaths per year in the USA? 100 deaths? So...the average American has like a 0.004738% greater chance of dying in the USA due to these shootings than the average Canadian? Oooh, I'm getting scared! LOL!
- It's a trade-off: YES, the USA has more mass shootings, and one of the reasons for this, IMO, is easier access to such weapons - BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT. YOU GET AN EXTRA 100 DEATHS A YEAR. THE POINT OF THIS IS TO STOP A PERSON LIKE KLAUS SCHWAB OR STALIN FROM TAKING OVER THE USA.
Again - it's a trade-off.
OAK can FEEL FREE to address any of this, but he won't.
Doesn't matter that I called him a dumb fuck. I did. He can simply ADDRESS ANY OF MY ACTUAL POINTS.
But he won't, because he doesn't care if the government has the power to take control of its citizens, because he thinks it won't happen to him.
You seem really tense Matt. You should take a vacation.
Oh wait….you’re not allowed to travel yet.
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You seem really tense Matt. You should take a vacation.
Oh wait….you’re not allowed to travel yet.
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He brings up great points and stats. Instead of skating, address it
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Let’s start with arming and training teachers, faculty and administration (volunteer basis). A trained RO, active or retired military or LEO on campus depending on the size the of the school, one in place for each quadrant of the school. Example, the HS where I coach has 3200 students. Take the layout of the school divided into 4 and place armed security (along with the volunteer faculty who is willing to be armed and trained. In each quadrant.
Then we can get into the external security
As someone who taught school for a while, I would say that the vast majority of teachers are uncomfortable with the idea of arming and training teachers, not just themselves but other teachers as well. The idea of guns in the classroom just does not make sense to teachers. Things can get very crazy and disorganized in many classrooms despite teachers’ best efforts. This is a high risk proposition. Dedicated resource officers (in the hallways, not in the classroom) are a better solution, but even this can go very wrong if they don’t do the right thing, as recently seen in Texas.
But the idea of the principal walking up and down the halls toting a firearm kind of makes me smile (but I know this is not a laughing matter).
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You seem really tense Matt. You should take a vacation.
Oh wait….you’re not allowed to travel yet.
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Exactly why I'm tense, you stupid fuck! I didn't want to travel, so in practice, not travelling doesn't concern me - but in PRINCIPLE, the fact that control freak assholes like you want to push flu vaccines on people that don't even work is why I'm tense.
Covid deaths have STAYED THE SAME since the vaccine rollout!
Some vaccine, moron!
Canadian Covid deaths so far:
2020: 15,569.
2021: 14,473.
2022: 10,857.
^ With 2022 on track to have the most deaths yet, despite 80% of the at-risk group QUADRUPLE vaccinated! LOL! Some vaccine!
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As someone who taught school for a while, I would say that the vast majority of teachers are uncomfortable with the idea of arming and training teachers, not just themselves but other teachers as well. The idea of guns in the classroom just does not make sense to teachers. Things can get very crazy and disorganized in many classrooms despite teachers’ best efforts. This is a high risk proposition. Dedicated resource officers (in the hallways, not in the classroom) are a better solution, but even this can go very wrong if they don’t do the right thing, as recently seen in Texas.
But the idea of the principal walking up and down the halls toting a firearm kind of makes me smile (but I know this is not a laughing matter).
Brother, I totally get where you’re coming from which why this should be on 100% volunteer basis only. Then a bit of a stipend for training. Now a days there are quite a few tactical training facilities around the country. Once qualified to carry, it should only (teacher, etc) be known to certain members of admin and carry should be concealed.
Schools received over $100bil in Covid relief which hardly any of it was spent. Give most of that money back and use it for security and securing schools around the country. Elementary, middle and High Schools are the softest targets with the most people we have in just about any given town or city. They should be the hardest targets
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ChOak is just going to post troll one liners and the same stupid discredited Leftist poached memes over and over and never engage in any rational debate or discourse. Pure troll.
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Brother, I totally get where you’re coming from which why this should be on 100% volunteer basis only. Then a bit of a stipend for training. Now a days there are quite a few tactical training facilities around the country. Once qualified to carry, it should only (teacher, etc) be known to certain members of admin and carry should be concealed.
Schools received over $100bil in Covid relief which hardly any of it was spent. Give most of that money back and use it for security and securing schools around the country. Elementary, middle and High Schools are the softest targets with the most people we have in just about any given town or city. They should be the hardest targets
There's no solution here. I heard there was a recent mass bow and arrow attack in Scandinavia or something.
All the stuff for safety is just an illusion.
In Canada, we had barely any gun deaths for decades. Successive waves of Canadian governments decided to mass import immigrants from the developing world, and in 2019, Toronto had a higher murder rate than New York City.
Lol.
I guess "common sense gun control" isn't working out so well for Canada.
Look - people are either pro-second amendment and understand it's purpose, or they don't.
I understand it. I accept that we will have 100 or so deaths from 8+ person shootings each year in the USA.
Big deal.
The second amendment is SINGLE-HANDEDLY PREVENTING ANOTHER STALIN.
Do you think Canada would have as much freedom if not for the USA having freedom?
The USA's freedom is part of why the rest of the Western world copies it!
And God, look:
Ok, fine - THE USA HAS MORE MASS SHOOTING DEATHS THAN OTHER COUNTRIES.
Again - do you want a second amendment or not?
Idiots like OAK want to give the government more and more power until HE is taken into a camp!
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OAK has to spend eight hours a day wearing a mask at his work - HAHAHAHA, what a dumb shit.
He doesn't understand this:
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Again - OAK is too dumb to get this:
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Again - OAK is too dumb to get this:
Hey Matt.
You’ve been posting about me for over 2 hours now. You’re clearly obsessed with me.
It’s Saturday night. Time to get a life buddy!
Hope this helps.
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Hey Matt.
You’ve been posting about me for over 2 hours now. You’re clearly obsessed with me.
It’s Saturday night. Time to get a life buddy!
Hope this helps.
🙂
Remember how you believed in the plandemic joke for the past two years, when only 5% of the stated deaths were directly from the virus alone?
So only 1 in 1,000 people in Manitoba died from the virus [20 in 20,000], but 19 of 20 had cancer or other diseases, so only 1 in 20,000 people actually died, and the average age of a dearh is 80.
But you bought into the scam, hook, line, and sinker - and you wore a mask this whole two years. 😂
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Do a live debate between the two of you on YouTube for us, so Vince can do a video (of a video)
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Coach is a glutton for punishment maybe.
A conversation w/ Oak is like one with any other woketard.
Like talking to a corrupt, pant-shitting ccp puppet traitor commie.
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Incinerated on the first page. So OAK tucks tail and bails.
Typical braindead Lib living in some make-believe reality.
Brain dead liberals or die hard Second Amendment conservatives aside, people in the middle on this issue (most Americans) are scratching their heads and trying to figure out what best to do. Here are some broader statistics:
45,222 gun related deaths in US in 2021
54% of those suicides
43% of those homicides
Less than 1 percent mass shootings
Mass shootings, of course, are the saddest ones of all and point to something really being “f…..d up here, but they are not the main problem statistically.
Law enforcement can make a difference with regard to the homicides, and it is true that bad people will still find ways to procure guns, regardless of the laws on the books.
But what about the sad suicide statistic? One aspect of that statistic is probably that we simply have too many guns laying around inside our homes. We need to look in the mirror and think about that. Not sure what legislative solutions would help, but also not sure that we should simply dismiss any and all legislative solutions. Even some NRA members are scratching their heads.
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Brain dead liberals or die hard Second Amendment conservatives aside, people in the middle on this issue (most Americans) are scratching their heads and trying to figure out what best to do. Here are some broader statistics:
45,222 gun related deaths in US in 2021
54% of those suicides
43% of those homicides
Less than 1 percent mass shootings
Mass shootings, of course, are the saddest ones of all and point to something really being “f…..d up here, but they are not the main problem statistically.
Law enforcement can make a difference with regard to the homicides, and it is true that bad people will still find ways to procure guns, regardless of the laws on the books.
But what about the sad suicide statistic? One aspect of that statistic is probably that we simply have too many guns laying around inside our homes. We need to look in the mirror and think about that. Not sure what legislative solutions would help, but also not sure that we should simply dismiss any and all legislative solutions. Even some NRA members are scratching their heads.
If someone wants to kill themselves then let them. It’s their choice so I wouldn’t count suicide deaths in gun deaths. They to would just find another way to kill themselves.
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Coach is a glutton for punishment maybe.
A conversation w/ Oak is like one with any other woketard.
Like talking to a corrupt, pant-shitting ccp puppet traitor commie.
This is why I started this thread to see if he can actually carry on a discussion without trolling if he truly feels the way he does. If I would have kept on in the other thread he would have just kept trolling
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If someone wants to kill themselves then let them. It’s their choice so I wouldn’t count suicide deaths in gun deaths. They to would just find another way to kill themselves.
I bet you are wrong about that. I read a few years back that police officers and dentists represented the highest statistic professions for suicide. One reason given as a possibility was ease of access: firearms (police officers) and narcotics (dentists).
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If someone wants to kill themselves then let them. It’s their choice so I wouldn’t count suicide deaths in gun deaths. They to would just find another way to kill themselves.
I swear our brains were manufactured at the same store. Haha
Someone who genuinely wants to end it is gonna find a way to end it.
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Brain dead liberals or die hard Second Amendment conservatives aside, people in the middle on this issue (most Americans) are scratching their heads and trying to figure out what best to do. Here are some broader statistics:
45,222 gun related deaths in US in 2021
54% of those suicides
43% of those homicides
Less than 1 percent mass shootings
Mass shootings, of course, are the saddest ones of all and point to something really being “f…..d up here, but they are not the main problem statistically.
Law enforcement can make a difference with regard to the homicides, and it is true that bad people will still find ways to procure guns, regardless of the laws on the books.
But what about the sad suicide statistic? One aspect of that statistic is probably that we simply have too many guns laying around inside our homes. We need to look in the mirror and think about that. Not sure what legislative solutions would help, but also not sure that we should simply dismiss any and all legislative solutions. Even some NRA members are scratching their heads.
That point is huge!
Politicians who include the suicide statistics are disingenuous c unts.
I'm just glad the second amendment is self-reinforcing!
As for the murder statistic, 70% are Black and Hispanic murders.
Take THAT out of the picture, and NOW compare the USA and Canada figures - they are almost exactly the same!!
Take my city - Thunder Bay, the murder capital of Canada. YES - because of Indigenous murders, and Black-on-Black drug/gang killings!
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This is why I started this thread to see if he can actually carry on a discussion without trolling if he truly feels the way he does. If I would have kept on in the other thread he would have just kept trolling
LOL
Don’t flatter yourself Coach.
I chose to stop engaging in your thread because I didn’t want to spend my entire Saturday night arguing with losers (you know who you are).
I do have a life outside of this forum.
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Spot on!
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Canadian Covid deaths so far:
2020: 15,569.
2021: 14,473.
2022: 10,857.
That’s horrible!
So much for the vaccine mandates “not working”.
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Spot on!
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Ummmm…….yes.
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I swear our brains were manufactured at the same store. Haha
Someone who genuinely wants to end it is gonna find a way to end it.
Yea I agree.
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Spot on!
Want to debate with memes or open discussion. You got your ass handed to you. Let me ask you. Are open to complete confiscation? How about the NRA?
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Want to debate with memes or open discussion. You got your ass handed to you. Let me ask you. Are open to complete confiscation? How about the NRA?
LOL
I got my ass handed to me……maybe in your dreams. 😆
You can’t have a proper debate on GetBig. You are capable (maybe) but most posters aren’t.
There’s not much for me to debate with you anyways.
You want more guns and I want less.
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LOL
I got my ass handed to me……maybe in your dreams. 😆
You can’t have a proper debate on GetBig. You are capable (maybe) but most posters aren’t.
There’s not much for me to debate with you anyways.
You want more guns and I want less.
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Pandora's box is already open. 400M guns in circulation, to late for that. Considering the number of privately owned firearms these events are exceedingly rare.
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Ban bows
5 people were killed and 2 wounded in a bow and arrow attack in Norway
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/13/1045739010/several-people-were-killed-or-injured-in-a-bow-and-arrow-attack-in-norway
less guns means more humane killings by edged weapons and incendiaries or trucks. Congrats , but at lease they weren't shot ::)
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LOL
I got my ass handed to me……maybe in your dreams. 😆
You can’t have a proper debate on GetBig. You are capable (maybe) but most posters aren’t.
There’s not much for me to debate with you anyways.
You want more guns and I want less.
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Exactly. Much more. So the government control freaks don't get the idea that they can lock us down for flus ever again.
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Pandora's box is already open. 400M guns in circulation, to late for that. Considering the number of privately owned firearms these events are exceedingly rare.
The US should at least TRY and prevent these events from happening even if they are relatively rare.
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Ban bows
5 people were killed and 2 wounded in a bow and arrow attack in Norway
https://www.npr.org/2021/10/13/1045739010/several-people-were-killed-or-injured-in-a-bow-and-arrow-attack-in-norway
less guns means more humane killings by edged weapons and incendiaries or trucks. Congrats , but at lease they weren't shot ::)
That's the one my friend told me about!
Yep - ban everything. 😂 OAK's dream world. 🙂
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What the media doesnt tell the anti-gun tardz is how many violent crimes are stopped each year by home owners protecting themselves.
Without them, especially in crime-filled libturdia we now live in, we'd all be sitting ducks...
https://fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show/
Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year, or 6,849 every day. Most often, the gun is never fired, and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.
Every year, 400,000 life-threatening violent crimes are prevented using firearms.
60 percent of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed. Forty percent of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed.
Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home because they fear being shot.
Fewer than 1 percent of firearms are used in the commission of a crime.
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The US should at least TRY and prevent these events from happening even if they are relatively rare.
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How? Great line in the movie Munich " Evil falls suddenly , who can say when it falls? " They're not relatively rare, they're exceedingly rare. More people will die by hands and feet than to be shot in a Mass shooting. They just arrested someone out here for making Facebook posts about shooting a school , they didn't find any guns so maybe just another attention seeking millennial trying to be provocative but what more can you do?
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How? Great line in the movie Munich " Evil falls suddenly , who can say when it falls? " They're not relatively rare, they're exceedingly rare. More people will die by hands and feet than to be shot in a Mass shooting. They just arrested someone out here for making Facebook posts about shooting a school , they didn't find any guns so maybe just another attention seeking millennial trying to be provocative but what more can you do?
How??
Stricter gun control.
90% of mass shootings are done with guns that are purchased LEGALLY.
That’s insane!
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How??
Stricter gun control.
90% of mass shootings are done with guns that are purchased LEGALLY.
That’s insane!
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What do you mean stricter? and again you're punishing people who have done nothing. And that figure seems suspect and a lot of them didn't have police records to begin with so how do weed out the lunatics while not infringing on people's rights?
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The US should at least TRY and prevent these events from happening even if they are relatively rare.
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Because the left doesn’t want them to stop. They love shootings, especially school shootings. If they stopped it would kill their anti-2A narrative
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What do you mean stricter? and again you're punishing people who have done nothing. And that figure seems suspect and a lot of them didn't have police records to begin with so how do weed out the lunatics while not infringing on people's rights?
I think its a stretch to say people are getting punished just because they can’t own an assault weapon. Why does an average person need one?
What about the rights of the students and parents?
As Jordan Peterson claims. We need to stop focusing on our “rights” and start focusing on our responsibilities.
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Because the left doesn’t want them to stop. They love shootings, especially school shootings. If they stopped it would kill their anti-2A narrative
That’s not true.
Also, remember, I’m not left wing. I’m right wing.
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I think its a stretch to say people are getting punished just because they can’t own an assault weapon. Why does an average person need one?
What about the rights of the students and parents?
As Jordan Peterson claims. We need to stop focusing on our “rights” and start focusing on our responsibilities.
I'll agree to disagree. And need has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Second Amendment. I can think of plenty of reasons why people would need one, self protection , hunting . target practice . collecting , etc amd just because some lunatic misuses one doesn't mean I should be punished for it.
The lunatic violated the rights of the students and parents , he could've just as easily ran them all over with a truck as they were in a crosswalk , again , you " ban " AR15s you don't prevent people from wreaking havoc you just change the means. You cannot prevent people from murder. 2 pistols could've created just as many casualties.
Jordan Peterson is a Canadian first of all , his opinion on my rights doesn't bother me and I ( like millions of other people ) are responsible with my firearms. There are 10 million other AR15s not use to kill anyone else on that day. If you think the solution if to punish other people for someone else' crime then you're not thinking logically. And do you know that there was a " ban " already and it did nothing? Why create a new one? that's not very common sense.
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That’s not true.
Also, remember, I’m not left wing. I’m right wing.
Really? Here, I’ll prove it. Do you think the kids of our high level politicians, sports figures, celebrities, dignitaries, Presidents, etc that are in school or went to didn’t have armed protection while at school?
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Do a live debate between the two of you on YouTube for us, so Vince can do a video (of a video)
In the age of Zoom, etc. there really should be a GetBig livestream Zoom call nightly. One bit of lemonade that can come from the lemons of the Covid scam.
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OAK,
How do you plan to confiscate the 400M guns from the 80M legal gun owners in the USA?
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How??
Stricter gun control.
90% of mass shootings are done with guns that are purchased LEGALLY.
That’s insane!
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As I’ve said, there are over 20k gun control laws on the books, which one would have stopped this? You skated this when I asked the first time
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Leave it to Wikipedia to include suicides in this figure, and then ignore the racial disparities which produce 70% of all American gun deaths. ::)
If you take the White murder rate in Canada, and compare it to the White murder rate in the USA, the numbers are identical.
The USA just has more diversity - and that's supposed to be a good thing, isn't it? ::)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_ownership
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OAK,
How do you plan to confiscate the 400M guns from the 80M legal gun owners in the USA?
Jackbooted thugs going door to door, no warrants, all resistance imprisoned with their assets confiscated and children taken away. Just like with Covid.
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Spot on!
im all for taking guns away fro 4 year olds. no stick no gun. lol
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I'll agree to disagree. And need has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Second Amendment. I can think of plenty of reasons why people would need one, self protection , hunting . target practice . collecting , etc amd just because some lunatic misuses one doesn't mean I should be punished for it.
The lunatic violated the rights of the students and parents , he could've just as easily ran them all over with a truck as they were in a crosswalk , again , you " ban " AR15s you don't prevent people from wreaking havoc you just change the means. You cannot prevent people from murder. 2 pistols could've created just as many casualties.
Jordan Peterson is a Canadian first of all , his opinion on my rights doesn't bother me and I ( like millions of other people ) are responsible with my firearms. There are 10 million other AR15s not use to kill anyone else on that day. If you think the solution if to punish other people for someone else' crime then you're not thinking logically. And do you know that there was a " ban " already and it did nothing? Why create a new one? that's not very common sense.
Yes we'll agree to disagree about the "right" to own an assault weapon.
Here' my question for you.
So far this year there's been over 200 mass shootings in the US. If stricter gun control isn't the solution, what is?
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As I’ve said, there are over 20k gun control laws on the books, which one would have stopped this? You skated this when I asked the first time
First of all I'm Canadian so I'm not an expert on US gun control laws, so there is no point in us debating specific gun laws.
However, I do know that most guns that are used in mass shootings are purchased LEGALLY. That needs to change.
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Yes we'll agree to disagree about the "right" to own an assault weapon.
Here' my question for you.
So far this year there's been over 200 mass shootings in the US. If stricter gun control isn't the solution, what is?
What’s an “assault weapon” besides a made up term by the left to use as scare tactics? Define “assault weapon”
The other day in my town there was a smash and grab. The weapon used was a hammer. That’s an “assault weapon”
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First of all I'm Canadian so I'm not an expert on US gun control laws, so there is no point in us debating specific gun laws.
However, I do know that most guns that are used in mass shootings are purchased LEGALLY. That needs to change.
Here’s a little fact for ya. In all instances of school shootings the shooters were under 21 with mental health problems and the authorities knew about it. I will, in those instances place blame on the authorities for not placing those shooters on a no sell list…BUT, what with that being said, in all instances the shootings were premeditated and again, that being said, there would have been NOTHING to stop any of these shooters from carrying out the planned shootings. Chicago has the strictest “gun control” policies in the country yet there are literally MASS shootings committed with ILLEGAL firearms there every week. Same thing with every major Dem ran city in this country
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Here’s a little fact for ya. In all instances of school shootings the shooters were under 21 with mental health problems and the authorities knew about it. I will, in those instances place blame on the authorities for not placing those shooters on a no sell list…BUT, what with that being said, in all instances the shootings were premeditated and again, that being said, there would have been NOTHING to stop any of these shooters from carrying out the planned shootings. Chicago has the strictest “gun control” policies in the country yet there are literally MASS shootings committed with ILLEGAL firearms there every week. Same thing with every major Dem ran city in this country
Here is a summary of Canada’s gun laws. How do yours compare?
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Here is a summary of Canada’s gun laws. How do yours compare?
We have a second amendment and Bill of Rights. The reason why what happened in Canada and Australia and other totalitarian and communist countries doesn’t happen here is because of our second amendment
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Here is a summary of Canada’s gun laws. How do yours compare?
We have that here (mostly) and once again, your entire country has a population of 38 million while we have 330 million
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We have that here (mostly) and once again, your entire country has a population of 38 million while we have 330 million
It takes about 6 months to buy a handgun in Canada and you can’t buy an “assault weapon”.
You have to register a shotgun and rifle. (Federal offense not to).
Is it the same in the US? I find that hard to believe.
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It takes about 6 months to buy a handgun in Canada and you can’t buy an “assault weapon”.
You have to register a shotgun and rifle. (Federal offense not to).
Is it the same in the US? I find that hard to believe.
1. Let’s get one thing clear. There is no such thing as an “assault weapon” as I’ve stated before in the smash and grab analogy. If I protect myself with a fucking frying pan, that could technically be called an “assault weapon”.
2. It takes 6 months because they know reasonable people won’t wait that long because it’s a fucking stupid law. Ours is state by state. In California the wait time is ten days. I all states there are local and federal background checks that use fingerprints. California it’s a “live scan”
3. In California, there is a mandatory 8hr in person course for those wanting to conceal carry. California has no reciprocity, meaning those people in other states that are legal to carry, can’t in California. It’s another leftist fucked up law
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1. Let’s get one thing clear. There is no such thing as an “assault weapon” as I’ve stated before in the smash and grab analogy. If I protect myself with a fucking frying pan, that could technically be called an “assault weapon”.
2. It takes 6 months because they know reasonable people won’t wait that long because it’s a fucking stupid law. Ours is state by state. In California the wait time is ten days. I all states there are local and federal background checks that use fingerprints. California it’s a “live scan”
3. In California, there is a mandatory 8hr in person course for those wanting to conceal carry. California has no reciprocity, meaning those people in other states that are legal to carry, can’t in California. It’s another leftist fucked up law
If “assault weapon” isn’t a thing what’s the correct term?
These weapons are not permitted in Canada but they are in the US.
What are the rules in Texas?
Our laws are definitely stricter than yours.
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If “assault weapon” isn’t a thing what’s the correct term?
These weapons are not permitted in Canada but they are in the US.
What are the rules in Texas?
Our laws are definitely stricter than yours.
1. Firearm
2. That’s a Canada problem. If you’re referring to the AR 15, it’s not only the most popular firearm in the US but also the #1 home defense weapon
3. Which is why your government did what it did during fake lockdowns and which it will never happen here. We have a constitution and a bill of rights. Your government is taking away your RIGHTS to defend you and your family even in your own home
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1. Firearm
2. That’s a Canada problem. If you’re referring to the AR 15, it’s not only the most popular firearm in the US but also the #1 home defense weapon
3. Which is why your government did what it did during fake lockdowns and which it will never happen here. We have a constitution and a bill of rights. Your government is taking away your RIGHTS to defend you and your family even in your own home
You guys need “home defense weapons” because AR 15s are legal.
Classic vicious cycle.
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You guys need “home defense weapons” because AR 15s are legal.
Classic vicious cycle.
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You don't seem to understand the point of the second amendment.
Guns are a check on the totalitarian power of the state. Guns protect against an intrusive GOVERNMENT. Not so much "intruders" of the B&E variety.
Although they help with both - but the reason why the it's the SECOND amendment, and not the 17th, is because of the importance of having a government BY the people, FOR the people. It's to prevent government overreach.
Politicians may not respond to public opinion surveys if they disagree with them, but they sure as hell will respond to psychos I bell towers.
Why don't you understand the second amendment, OAK?
Do you want us all to be locked up in camps over Covid, like what happened in Australia?
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You guys need “home defense weapons” because AR 15s are legal.
Classic vicious cycle.
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My personal home protection isn’t an AR but for many it is. You only know about AR 15’s is through the MSM. Shotguns are next as far as home protection and far more devastating in an home invasion situation…..but they won’t tell you that
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My personal home protection isn’t an AR but for many it is. You only know about AR 15’s is through the MSM. Shotguns are next as far as home protection and far more devastating in an home invasion situation…..but they won’t tell you that
In Canada, the Liberal government is grabbing yet more guns this year, while simultaneously importing more people from the developing world, and watching Canada's gun crime skyrocket.
It has nothing to do with "commonsense gun laws" - once they grab one series of guns, they will just push to grab more and more.
Gun grabbing never ends with libs, and it has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with trying to get to the point where only the government have guns.
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If “assault weapon” isn’t a thing what’s the correct term?
These weapons are not permitted in Canada but they are in the US.
What are the rules in Texas?
Our laws are definitely stricter than yours.
Friend, the term “assault weapon” has been in use for over 30 years. It describes a semi-automatic rifle that looks cool to some, scary to others.
The term “assault rifle” describes the weapons of war that our military uses, like the M-16 and M-4.
This Ruger Mini 14 functions identically to the AR15 - same ammunition, same magazines, and can be altered/modified as an AR15 can. But it's not classified as an "assault weapon. It's not scary-looking.
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may as well be defenseless in life, say the braindead libturdz...
They love their violent criminals.
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Yes we'll agree to disagree about the "right" to own an assault weapon.
Here' my question for you.
So far this year there's been over 200 mass shootings in the US. If stricter gun control isn't the solution, what is?
I don't believe that stat first of all and second of all there is NO ' solution ' unless you know a way of preventing lunatics in advance? I know the solution isn't to blame and punish people who had absolutely nothing to do with any misuse of their firearms.
And this is why we can't have a reasonable discussion on the subject because you're ignorant on the subject you're trying to talk about. You CANNOT have an opinion on a subject you're clueless on. One of these rifles is legally an " Assault weapon " and the other is legally NOT can you tell the difference? One of these rifles is in a " ban-compliant " configuration and technically NOT an " Assault weapon " this is what the genius politicians decided to " ban " in 1994. Calls for another nation-wide ban will get you this. A nation-wide ban wouldn't effect me in the least because the state I live in still has one. A little clue for you......These were NEVER banned just features of these. Both have the same rate of fire and can be just as deadly in the wrong hands.
People who are calling for a " ban " have NO fucking clue on what their asking for.
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Oak logic
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I don't believe that stat first of all and second of all there is NO ' solution ' unless you know a way of preventing lunatics in advance? I know the solution isn't to blame and punish people who had absolutely nothing to do with any misuse of their firearms.
And this is why we can't have a reasonable discussion on the subject because you're ignorant on the subject you're trying to talk about. You CANNOT have an opinion on a subject you're clueless on. One of these rifles is legally an " Assault weapon " and the other is legally NOT can you tell the difference? One of these rifles is in a " ban-compliant " configuration and technically NOT an " Assault weapon " this is what the genius politicians decided to " ban " in 1994. Calls for another nation-wide ban will get you this. A nation-wide ban wouldn't effect me in the least because the state I live in still has one. A little clue for you......These were NEVER banned just features of these. Both have the same rate of fire and can be just as deadly in the wrong hands.
People who are calling for a " ban " have NO fucking clue on what their asking for.
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Mass shootings happen every weekend in Chicago , where is the national outrage? and Which one if these is a " Assault weapon " and which is not ?
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Mass shootings happen every weekend in Chicago , where is the national outrage? and Which one if these is a " Assault weapon " and which is not ?
I have NO idea. I'm not an expert on guns.
Question: Chicago is the same size as Toronto yet it has 10 times more murders. Why is this?
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a mass shooting is 5 people including the shooter
You are aware most of them are gang related
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They're conflating gangs in Chicago killing each other with school shootings which perpetuates the myth that this is an everyday occurrence which it's not. Mass shootings are exceedingly rare , regardless of what the Mass Media tells you. The VAST majority of gun deaths are suicides ( 2/3rds ) and are used with handguns. According to the FBI more people will die by hands & feet than ALL rifles combined and the AR15 is a subset of rifles. And there was a " ban " on " Assault weapons in the United States from 1994-2004 and when all was said and done it had zero impact on gun deaths because they're rarely used anyway. They know what the problem is , it's handguns , but ban the rifles and when the data shows nothing changed then we move on to handguns , it's by design. And here's the fucking kicker , they NEVER banned AR15s a group of ignorant , moronic , asshole politicians all got together and decided this is what constitutes an " assault weapon " they couldn't have a bayonet lug to mount a bayonet I shit you not , because there has been a rash of people impaling people with bayonets , the rile couldn't have a flash hider , it had to have a muzzle brake instead , so you can see the flash from a barrel ::) and it couldn't have a retractable stock so you can conceal a 30" rife ::) Manufactures made the necessary changes continued to pump out rifles. EXACT same round EXACT same rate of fire. Oh and you couldn't have any more 30 round magazines Oh wait yes you could as long as they were made before Sept 1994 and there are 10s of millions of these in circulation and you could still legally buy an AR15 during the ban as long as it was made before Sept 1994. It was all a fucking scam
I have NO idea. I'm not an expert on guns.
Question: Chicago is the same size as Toronto yet it has 10 times more murders. Why is this?
I know you have no idea , that was a rhetorical question. I'm no expert either however on the subject I'm knowledgeable & informed. If you're going to have an opinion on the subject at least know what you're talking about. And it's gangs in Chicago's North side raising hell.
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They're conflating gangs in Chicago killing each other with school shootings which perpetuates the myth that this is an everyday occurrence which it's not. Mass shootings are exceedingly rare , regardless of what the Mass Media tells you. The VAST majority of gun deaths are suicides ( 2/3rds ) and are used with handguns. According to the FBI more people will die by hands & feet than ALL rifles combined and the AR15 is a subset of rifles. And there was a " ban " on " Assault weapons in the United States from 1994-2004 and when all was said and done it had zero impact on gun deaths because they're rarely used anyway. They know what the problem is , it's handguns , but ban the rifles and when the data shows nothing changed then we move on to handguns , it's by design. And here's the fucking kicker , they NEVER banned AR15s a group of ignorant , moronic , asshole politicians all got together and decided this is what constitutes an " assault weapon " they couldn't have a bayonet lug to mount a bayonet I shit you not , because there has been a rash of people impaling people with bayonets , the rile couldn't have a flash hider , it had to have a muzzle brake instead , so you can see the flash from a barrel ::) and it couldn't have a retractable stock so you can conceal a 30" rife ::) Manufactures made the necessary changes continued to pump out rifles. EXACT same round EXACT same rate of fire. Oh and you couldn't have any more 30 round magazines Oh wait yes you could as long as they were made before Sept 1994 and there are 10s of millions of these in circulation and you could still legally buy an AR15 during the ban as long as it was made before Sept 1994. It was all a fucking scam
I know you have no idea , that was a rhetorical question. I'm no expert either however on the subject I'm knowledgeable & informed. If you're going to have an opinion on the subject at least know what you're talking about. And it's gangs in Chicago's North side raising hell.
There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).
While multiple factors are at play this does provide EVIDENCE for stricter gun control.
Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.
I’ve debated dozens of forum members about COVID and the COVID vaccine who have ZERO post secondary medical training. Are they AUTOMATICALLY wrong?
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There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).
While multiple factors are at play this does provide EVIDENCE for stricter gun control.
Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.
I’ve debated dozens of forum members about COVID and the COVID vaccine who have ZERO post secondary medical training. Are they AUTOMATICALLY wrong?
No, but your only argument has been exactly that from day one.
Why else would you pretend to be a medic?
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There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).
While multiple factors are at play this does provide EVIDENCE for stricter gun control.
Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.
I’ve debated dozens of forum members about COVID and the COVID vaccine who have ZERO post secondary medical training. Are they AUTOMATICALLY wrong?
There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).
OK Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws as well. So much for stricter gun laws.
Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.
Actually its NOT which is exactly why I prefaced as I'm not a expert either. i.e. NOT an authority but I'm knowledgeable on the subject , you can have an opinion on the subject all you'd like but when you spout it off you run the risk of looking foolish , which you don't seem to mind.
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OK Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws as well. So much for stricter gun laws.
Actually its NOT which is exactly why I prefaced as I'm not a expert either. i.e. NOT an authority but I'm knowledgeable on the subject , you can have an opinion on the subject all you'd like but when you spout it off you run the risk of looking foolish , which you don't seem to mind.
Are you suggesting Chicago’s gun laws are just as strict as Toronto’s?
It takes about 6 months to legally obtain a handgun in Toronto. How long does it take in Chicago?
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Are you suggesting Chicago’s gun laws are just as strict as Toronto’s?
It takes about 6 months to legally obtain a handgun in Toronto. How long does it take in Chicago?
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No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates
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No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates
Right.
Vermont is an open carry state. They average a whopping 10 homicides per year, most by firearms.
Last year there were about 1,000 firearm homicides in Chicago, which has about three times the population of VT. Chicago has strict gun laws but not much to show for it in terms of reducing gun violence.
You can’t stop the determined and deranged – too many examples of unhinged jackballs doing whatever, breaking many laws, so they can to produce carnage.
There was an armed safety officer who exchanged fire with one of the Columbine shooters, saving who knows how many lives. Schools should welcome armed safety officers; schools that don’t will remain soft targets.
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No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates
Thank you for conceding that.
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Who knew? The Lying Mass Media running cover for the gun grabbers ::)
There Have Been 13 Mass School Shootings Since 1966, Not 27 This Year
https://reason.com/2022/05/26/uvalde-texas-mass-shooting-statistics-gun-crimes-misleading/
146 people killed in 66 years OMG ban everything now ::)
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Thank you for conceding that.
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It wouldn't matter if they had Canada's strict gun laws that's the entire point , which you missed.
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There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).
While multiple factors are at play this does provide EVIDENCE for stricter gun control.
Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.
I’ve debated dozens of forum members about COVID and the COVID vaccine who have ZERO post secondary medical training. Are they AUTOMATICALLY wrong?
When you adjust Canadian and American statistics for race, no such disparities exist.
Are you saying you have a problem with violence in the Black community, OAK? In the USA, 51% of murders and 56% if all gun violence is within the Black community.
Ditto for Toronto.
Do you have a problem with racial diversity, OAK?
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No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates
Once again, proving my point that all of this is predictable based on racial demographics.
That's no disrespect to the Black community at all - but it astounds me that Canadians can talk about violent "Americans" than when I point to the above fact, they refuse to acknowledge it. The very same people who think it's ok to judge based on group membership.
Also, I suspect they know I'm right, but they refuse to admit it.
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OAK… is a communist
https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/canada-moves-to-ban-sale-of-handguns-in-sweeping-bill/
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“Gun control doesn’t work.”
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Oak, are you a communist? Simple yes or no
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Oak, are you a communist? Simple yes or no
I’m right wing actually.
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I’m right wing actually.
Not by any stretch of the imagination. I’ll ask again, an honest answer from you would be refreshing.
Are you a communist? Trudeau is and you support him. So, are you?
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Not by any stretch of the imagination. I’ll ask again, an honest answer from you would be refreshing.
Are you a communist? Trudeau is and you support him. So, are you?
LOL
Trudeau is right center.
You clearly don’t follow Canadian politics (other than MSM).
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“Guns stop mass shootings”.
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Trudeau is right center.
You clearly don’t follow Canadian politics (other than MSM).
Answer my question. You know my stance on Communism.
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Answer my question. You know my stance on Communism.
No I’m not communist.
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No I’m not communist.
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Yet you're for gun confiscation and peoples rights to protect themselves and their families, you’re also for mandatory fake vaccinations and masks. What am I missing here? Are you a socialist?
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“Gun control doesn’t work.”
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/
Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.
More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.
The original Assault Weapons Ban didn't work because it's rare people use rifles.
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Yet you're for gun confiscation and peoples rights to protect themselves and their families, you’re also for mandatory fake vaccinations and masks. What am I missing here? Are you a socialist?
No I'm right wing.
I've owned my own business for nearly 20 years. Most business owners are not left wing.
I believe in lower taxes, reduced government spending and reduced government.
I believe in gun control (most people outside of the US do).
I'm pro vaccine because I've seen the effects of COVID first hand.
Donald Trump is pro vaccine too. Does this make Trump a socialist?
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Those aren't even gun statistics.
I can post useless stats too.
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No I'm right wing.
I've owned my own business for nearly 20 years. Most business owners are not left wing.
I believe in lower taxes, reduced government spending and reduced government.
I believe in gun control (most people outside of the US do).
I'm pro vaccine because I've seen the effects of COVID first hand.
Donald Trump is pro vaccine too. Does this make Trump a socialist?
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No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates
The 2022 population of Vermont is slightly over 601 thousand. Burlington is the largest city in Vermont with a population of 43 thousand. There is almost no one to shoot.
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Let’s start with arming and training teachers, faculty and administration (volunteer basis). A trained RO, active or retired military or LEO on campus depending on the size the of the school, one in place for each quadrant of the school. Example, the HS where I coach has 3200 students. Take the layout of the school divided into 4 and place armed security (along with the volunteer faculty who is willing to be armed and trained. In each quadrant.
Then we can get into the external security
Coach you make to much sense. To logical
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The 2022 population of Vermont is slightly over 601 thousand. Burlington is the largest city in Vermont with a population of 43 thousand. There is almost no one to shoot.
Dumb statement again by the resident caulk-guzzling retard.
If Chicago has 4 x the population of a non-violent state (VT), they should only have 4 x the murders?
Vermont - 2021 - 9 homicides.
So Chicago should only have 36 homicides in a year and not 500+??
They have 36 every fucking weekend. Go back into hiding and swallowing ball-butter...
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Dumb statement again by the resident caulk-guzzling retard.
If Chicago has 4 x the population of a non-violent state (VT), they should only have 4 x the murders?
Vermont - 2021 - 9 homicides.
So Chicago should only have 36 homicides in a year and not 500+??
They have 36 every fucking weekend. Go back into hiding and swallowing ball-butter...
In Chicago all the gun control laws have accomplished is to make law abiding citizens easier targets for the criminals.
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