OAK

[joswift]

There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).

While multiple factors are at play this does provide EVIDENCE for stricter gun control.

Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.

I’ve debated dozens of forum members about COVID and the COVID vaccine who have ZERO post secondary medical training. Are they AUTOMATICALLY wrong?

No, but your only argument has been exactly that from day one.
Why else would you pretend to be a medic?

[NarcissisticDeity]

There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).

While multiple factors are at play this does provide EVIDENCE for stricter gun control.

Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.

I’ve debated dozens of forum members about COVID and the COVID vaccine who have ZERO post secondary medical training. Are they AUTOMATICALLY wrong?

There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).

OK Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws as well. So much for stricter gun laws.

Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.

Actually its NOT which is exactly why I prefaced as I'm not a expert either. i.e. NOT an authority but I'm knowledgeable on the subject , you can have an opinion on the subject all you'd like but when you spout it off you run the risk of looking foolish , which you don't seem to mind. 

[OAK]

OK Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws as well. So much for stricter gun laws.



Actually its NOT which is exactly why I prefaced as I'm not a expert either. i.e. NOT an authority but I'm knowledgeable on the subject , you can have an opinion on the subject all you'd like but when you spout it off you run the risk of looking foolish , which you don't seem to mind.

Are you suggesting Chicago’s gun laws are just as strict as Toronto’s?

It takes about 6 months to legally obtain a handgun in Toronto. How long does it take in Chicago?


 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Are you suggesting Chicago’s gun laws are just as strict as Toronto’s?

It takes about 6 months to legally obtain a handgun in Toronto. How long does it take in Chicago?


 

No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates

[Moontrane]

No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates

Right.

Vermont is an open carry state.  They average a whopping 10 homicides per year, most by firearms.

Last year there were about 1,000 firearm homicides in Chicago, which has about three times the population of VT.  Chicago has strict gun laws but not much to show for it in terms of reducing gun violence.

You can’t stop the determined and deranged – too many examples of unhinged jackballs doing whatever, breaking many laws, so they can to produce carnage.

There was an armed safety officer who exchanged fire with one of the Columbine shooters, saving who knows how many lives.  Schools should welcome armed safety officers; schools that don’t will remain soft targets.

[OAK]

No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates

Thank you for conceding that.

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Who knew? The Lying Mass Media running cover for the gun grabbers 



There Have Been 13 Mass School Shootings Since 1966, Not 27 This Year


https://reason.com/2022/05/26/uvalde-texas-mass-shooting-statistics-gun-crimes-misleading/


146 people killed in 66 years OMG ban everything now 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Thank you for conceding that.

 

It wouldn't matter if they had Canada's strict gun laws that's the entire point , which you missed.

[Matt]

There are gangs in Toronto too. Yet there is a marked difference in homicides between these two cities.(over 1000%).

While multiple factors are at play this does provide EVIDENCE for stricter gun control.

Your second point is an “argument of authority”. It’s a fallacy.

I’ve debated dozens of forum members about COVID and the COVID vaccine who have ZERO post secondary medical training. Are they AUTOMATICALLY wrong?

When you adjust Canadian and American statistics for race, no such disparities exist.

Are you saying you have a problem with violence in the Black community, OAK? In the USA, 51% of murders and 56% if all gun violence is within the Black community.

Ditto for Toronto.

Do you have a problem with racial diversity, OAK?

[Matt]

No , I'm saying they have some of the strictest guns laws and among the highest murder rates in the country. So , strict gun laws don't infer less gun violence. Vermont has some of the most lax gun laws and among the lowest gun violence rates

Once again, proving my point that all of this is predictable based on racial demographics.

That's no disrespect to the Black community at all - but it astounds me that Canadians can talk about violent "Americans" than when I point to the above fact, they refuse to acknowledge it. The very same people who think it's ok to judge based on group membership.

Also, I suspect they know I'm right, but they refuse to admit it.

[Coach is Back!]

OAK… is a communist


https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/canada-moves-to-ban-sale-of-handguns-in-sweeping-bill/

[OAK]

“Gun control doesn’t work.”

🙄

[OAK]

🙄

[Coach is Back!]

🙄

Oak, are you a communist? Simple yes or no

[OAK]

Oak, are you a communist? Simple yes or no

I’m right wing actually.

[Coach is Back!]

I’m right wing actually.

Not by any stretch of the imagination. I’ll ask again, an honest answer from you would be refreshing.

Are you a communist? Trudeau is and you support him. So, are you?

[OAK]

Not by any stretch of the imagination. I’ll ask again, an honest answer from you would be refreshing.

Are you a communist? Trudeau is and you support him. So, are you?

LOL

Trudeau is right center.

You clearly don’t follow Canadian politics (other than MSM).

[OAK]

“Guns stop mass shootings”.

🙄

[Coach is Back!]

LOL

Trudeau is right center.

You clearly don’t follow Canadian politics (other than MSM).

Answer my question. You know my stance on Communism.

[OAK]

Answer my question. You know my stance on Communism.

No I’m not communist.

🙄

[Coach is Back!]

No I’m not communist.

🙄

Yet you're for gun confiscation and peoples rights to protect themselves and their families, you’re also for mandatory fake vaccinations and masks. What am I missing here? Are you a socialist?

[NarcissisticDeity]

“Gun control doesn’t work.”

🙄

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/


Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.

More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.


The original Assault Weapons Ban didn't work because it's rare people use rifles.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[OAK]

Yet you're for gun confiscation and peoples rights to protect themselves and their families, you’re also for mandatory fake vaccinations and masks. What am I missing here? Are you a socialist?

No I'm right wing.

I've owned my own business for nearly 20 years. Most business owners are not left wing.

I believe in lower taxes, reduced government spending and reduced government.

I believe in gun control (most people outside of the US do).

I'm pro vaccine because I've seen the effects of COVID first hand.

Donald Trump is pro vaccine too. Does this make Trump a socialist?

[OAK]

LOL 

Those aren't even gun statistics.

I can post useless stats too.