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Title: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 18, 2022, 04:34:01 PM
Ken is strongly against Canadians being FORCED to get the COVID vaccination.

Ken is totally fine with Canadians being FORCED to pay his $3,000,000 medical bill.


Antivaxxers....."Because everybody needs to feel important".

 :(



Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: That_Dude on August 18, 2022, 04:41:14 PM
3mil isn't even a rounding error when compared to the money flushed down the toilet with all of the surplus vaccines the Canadian government purchased then tossed......
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: SF1900 on August 18, 2022, 04:48:19 PM
3 million for one year in the hospital is cheap by American standards.

1 year in an American hospital, and it will cost you 3 billion. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 18, 2022, 04:49:50 PM
3 million for one year in the hospital is cheap by American standards.

1 year in an American hospital, and it will cost you 3 billion. :D :D :D

No doubt.

$8,600 per day in Saskatchewan.

🙁
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: robcguns on August 18, 2022, 05:03:59 PM
3 million for one year in the hospital is cheap by American standards.

1 year in an American hospital, and it will cost you 3 billion. :D :D :D

Hahahah unfortunately that’s true.

Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 05:12:15 PM
Ken is strongly against Canadians being FORCED to get the COVID vaccination.

Ken is totally fine with Canadians being FORCED to pay his $3,000,000 medical bill.


Antivaxxers....."Because everybody needs to feel important".

 :(

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Has he considered losing mass?

That's exactly my point - only fat fucks and those with multiple diseases and drug addicts end up burdening the system like this.

If you go check in on chose suffering from Covid in this fashion, likely 1-10% are normal weight people who have no health conditions.

That's why I'm not getting the vaccine - it's very unlikely I end up burdening the system like this. Furthermore, I've been to the hospital FIVE TIMES IN MY LIFE. Twice for stitches.

If everyone had spent as little time in the hospital as me, we just about wouldn't even need a healthcare system.

That's why I have no guilt about this at all.

If Canadians had a private healthcare option, this wouldn't even be an issue. I could just buy private healthcare, and my use would be paid for privately, and none of your damn business.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Lustral on August 18, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
Why is covid the one illness where perceived recklessness of patient is widely derided? Do you go around laughing at paraplegics in rehab hospitals after car crashes or bed ridden patients who overate, over drank and under exercised?

The logical follow on from Oak's reasoning is if bed burdening, ie availing of health care where it might (only might) have been avoidable is seen as a massive waste of money this merits removing the right to take risks or make less than ideal lifestlyle choices. No drugs, no poor diet, mandated exercise, no unsafe activities...
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: TheGrinch on August 18, 2022, 05:26:07 PM
no matter what happened..... isn't it and shouldn't it be HIS choice?
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 18, 2022, 05:28:54 PM
Scam winding down:



Amazon Is Ending COVID-Specific Leave and Contract Tracing

https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-ending-covid-specific-leave-contract-tracing-2022-8
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2022, 05:43:11 PM
Ken is strongly against Canadians being FORCED to get the COVID vaccination.

Ken is totally fine with Canadians being FORCED to pay his $3,000,000 medical bill.


Antivaxxers....."Because everybody needs to feel important".

 :(

Liar.  You are a filthy liar and when death by Covid or your cronies comes for you there will be no coming back asshole.

LIAR.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 05:48:08 PM
Why is covid the one illness where perceived recklessness of patient is widely derided? Do you go around laughing at paraplegics in rehab hospitals after car crashes or bed ridden patients who overate, over drank and under exercised?

The logical follow on from Oak's reasoning is if bed burdening, ie availing of health care where it might (only might) have been avoidable is seen as a massive waste of money this merits removing the right to take risks or make less than ideal lifestlyle choices. No drugs, no poor diet, mandated exercise, no unsafe activities...

Exactly!!! This 100%.

I'm being told by a bunch of overweight and obese opioid-addicted alcoholics not to burden the healthcare system over a potential virus.  ::)
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2022, 05:49:31 PM
No doubt.

$8,600 per day in Saskatchewan.

🙁

Liar.  Deadpool 2022/23.  FOAD liar.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 05:49:46 PM
Liar.  You are a filthy liar and when death by Covid or your cronies comes for you there will be no coming back asshole.

LIAR.

I blame OAK for your vaccine-induced heart attack.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2022, 05:51:02 PM
I blame OAK for your vaccine-induced heart attack.

I blame all of them.  Liars deserving of death by clotting or worse.  And even in death they have no honor.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2022, 05:52:12 PM
Ken is strongly against Canadians being FORCED to get the COVID vaccination.

Ken is totally fine with Canadians being FORCED to pay his $3,000,000 medical bill.


Antivaxxers....."Because everybody needs to feel important".

 :(

Liar.  Milquetoast liar. 
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Lustral on August 18, 2022, 05:54:35 PM
Exactly!!! This 100%.

I'm being told by a bunch of overweight and obese opioid-addicted alcoholics not to burden the healthcare system over a potential virus.  ::)

I can't judge, I spent a night withdrawing from alcohol on librium and felt like such scum - was not allowed to discharge. Sobered up over 2 years now and sorted myself out but I always see it as a massive drain all the hypochondriacs who clog hospitals with phantom ailments. Healthcare exists (I am insured) because we all do retarded things and we all get shit luck at some stage.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2022, 06:07:22 PM
I can't judge, I spent a night withdrawing from alcohol on librium and felt like such scum - was not allowed to discharge. Sobered up over 2 years now and sorted myself out but I always see it as a massive drain all the hypochondriacs who clog hospitals with phantom ailments. Healthcare exists (I am insured) because we all do retarded things and we all get shit luck at some stage.

Some people make their own shit luck.  And then roll in it.  You are not one of those people or so your words make me think. You can judge but judgment is based on right and wrong, not feeeeeeeeeeelings.  Never be afraid to judge that which is wrong is wrong and that which is right is right.

A red light means stop.  A green light, go.  It isn't difficult but the same cretins that claim there are hundreds of genders would have you feeeeeeeeeeel otherwise.

Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 18, 2022, 06:22:14 PM
Has he considered losing mass?

That's exactly my point - only fat fucks and those with multiple diseases and drug addicts end up burdening the system like this.

If you go check in on chose suffering from Covid in this fashion, likely 1-10% are normal weight people who have no health conditions.

That's why I'm not getting the vaccine - it's very unlikely I end up burdening the system like this. Furthermore, I've been to the hospital FIVE TIMES IN MY LIFE. Twice for stitches.

If everyone had spent as little time in the hospital as me, we just about wouldn't even need a healthcare system.

That's why I have no guilt about this at all.

If Canadians had a private healthcare option, this wouldn't even be an issue. I could just buy private healthcare, and my use would be paid for privately, and none of your damn business.

Antivaxxers have made a clear CHOICE not to get vaccinated.

Nobody CHOOSES to be an addict.

HUGE difference.


Also addicts have consequences. Criminal charges, fines, increased insurance premiums....

Antivaxxers have NO consequences.

 :(





Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: chaos on August 18, 2022, 06:33:23 PM
Ken is strongly against Canadians being FORCED to get the COVID vaccination.

Ken is totally fine with Canadians being FORCED to pay his $3,000,000 medical bill.


Antivaxxers....."Because everybody needs to feel important".

 :(
If he looks like that after a year of eating hospital food, how fat was he when he went in ???
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: The Scott on August 18, 2022, 06:38:46 PM
Antivaxxers have made a clear CHOICE not to get vaccinated.

Nobody CHOOSES to be an addict.

HUGE difference.


Also addicts have consequences. Criminal charges, fines, increased insurance premiums....

Antivaxxers have NO consequences.

 :(

Liar.  FOADYWPOS
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Tapeworm on August 18, 2022, 06:40:47 PM
Oak now arguing against socialized medicine?! We are through the looking glass, here!
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Lartinos on August 18, 2022, 07:58:57 PM
The Oak alter still pushing the same stories they started with to get people to take the poison shot.

There are definitely people who fell for these contrived and dishonest stories.

They became scared and took the shot and probably realize the facade they fell for.

Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 09:22:13 PM
Antivaxxers have made a clear CHOICE not to get vaccinated.

Nobody CHOOSES to be an addict.

HUGE difference.


Also addicts have consequences. Criminal charges, fines, increased insurance premiums....

Antivaxxers have NO consequences.

 :(

Most drug addicts I've made are making the choice not to get better. They simply don't give a fuck and want to get high.

But regardless, that's just one example.

If you want to change the system so that we all get healthcare based on our personal choices, I am FINE with that.

Then I'd literally pay nothing for healthcare I never use.

So if you want us to go down that road, OAK - I'm perfectly fine with that.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 09:22:54 PM
Oak now arguing against socialized medicine?! We are through the looking glass, here!

I hope so!
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 18, 2022, 09:30:11 PM
Most drug addicts I've made are making the choice not to get better. They simply don't give a fuck and want to get high.

But regardless, that's just one example.

If you want to change the system so that we all get healthcare based on our personal choices, I am FINE with that.

Then I'd literally pay nothing for healthcare I never use.

So if you want us to go down that road, OAK - I'm perfectly fine with that.

Yes.

I’m all for private healthcare.

Of course, your premiums would be through the roof because you’re not vaccinated.

🙂
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 09:37:29 PM
Yes.

I’m all for private healthcare.

Of course, your premiums would be through the roof because you’re not vaccinated.

🙂

Why would they be through the roof for unvaccinated people?

Zero healthy people under age 60 in my city have died of Covid.

Zero is a pretty small number, and represents a pretty low risk.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 18, 2022, 09:42:46 PM
Why would they be through the roof for unvaccinated people?

Zero healthy people under age 60 in my city have died of Covid.

Zero is a pretty small number, and represents a pretty low risk.

You’ll be grouped with losers like this guy.

That’s how premiums are calculated.

😆

Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 18, 2022, 09:46:54 PM
Why would they be through the roof for unvaccinated people?

Zero healthy people under age 60 in my city have died of Covid.

Zero is a pretty small number, and represents a pretty low risk.

I can’t believe you didn’t realize this.

😆
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: BlackMetallic on August 18, 2022, 09:48:46 PM
Yes.

I’m all for private healthcare.

Of course, your premiums would be through the roof because you’re not vaccinated.

🙂

Your worship of the vaccine is literally cult like
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 10:01:25 PM
You’ll be grouped with losers like this guy.

That’s how premiums are calculated.

😆

So I'll be grouped in with 11 people per 108,000 population in my city under the age of 60 who died, all of whom had underlying disease?

Why would an almost nonexistent risk like that increase premiums?
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Tapeworm on August 18, 2022, 10:02:43 PM
Yes.

I’m all for private healthcare.

Of course, your premiums would be through the roof because you’re not vaccinated.

🙂

 ??? But doesn't the government know what's best? Isn't removing the profit motive what makes socialized medicine equitable?

I didn't agree with your assessments but I at least respected you for the depth of your beliefs. Now you just throw all that out the window? Who are you, man?
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 18, 2022, 10:05:34 PM
??? But doesn't the government know what's best? Isn't removing the profit motive what makes socialized medicine equitable?

I didn't agree with your assessments but I at least respected you for the depth of your beliefs. Now you just throw all that out the window? Who are you, man?

 ;)
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2022, 10:07:57 PM
;)

Do you think anyone who takes risks should pay for their healthcare then?

I like this idea a lot.

So when will we be getting a private healthcare option in Canada so I can opt out of the inferior free Canadian healthcare system which is currently collapsing?
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 18, 2022, 11:55:31 PM
Appears to be the picture of health  ::)

He might be dead if he took the clot-shot.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: joswift on August 19, 2022, 01:27:54 AM
Do you think anyone who takes risks should pay for their healthcare then?

I like this idea a lot.

So when will we be getting a private healthcare option in Canada so I can opt out of the inferior free Canadian healthcare system which is currently collapsing?
you eat less than 2000 cals a day which is the guidelines for optimum heath for a man your size.

should you pay more for health care?
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 19, 2022, 11:56:30 AM
you eat less than 2000 cals a day which is the guidelines for optimum heath for a man your size.

should you pay more for health care?

Exactly, and - as far as I'm aware, no.

I've gone to the hospital five times in my life. Twice for stitches, and three times for antibiotics. One was a bout of pneumonia, and one was a cat scratch which became infected.

How am I at risk of burdening the system?
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: joswift on August 19, 2022, 12:00:48 PM
Exactly, and - as far as I'm aware, no.

I've gone to the hospital five times in my life. Twice for stitches, and three times for antibiotics. One was a bout of pneumonia, and one was a cat scratch which became infected.

How am I at risk of burdening the system?

I didnt say you were, its you that wanted to make rules on who should be treated in hospital depending on their lifestyle choices.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 19, 2022, 01:05:08 PM
I didnt say you were, its you that wanted to make rules on who should be treated in hospital depending on their lifestyle choices.

I'm just saying to OAK - he's trying to threaten me as an unvaccinated person, that I will pay more for healthcare.

But I wouldn't. In my health status, I'd get private insurance easily.

So if Canada is REALLY going down that road - fine. I can accept that.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2022, 01:51:09 PM
3 million for one year in the hospital is cheap by American standards.

1 year in an American hospital, and it will cost you 3 billion. :D :D :D

So true.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2022, 01:57:29 PM
Has he considered losing mass?

That's exactly my point - only fat fucks and those with multiple diseases and drug addicts end up burdening the system like this.

If you go check in on chose suffering from Covid in this fashion, likely 1-10% are normal weight people who have no health conditions.

That's why I'm not getting the vaccine - it's very unlikely I end up burdening the system like this. Furthermore, I've been to the hospital FIVE TIMES IN MY LIFE. Twice for stitches.

If everyone had spent as little time in the hospital as me, we just about wouldn't even need a healthcare system.

That's why I have no guilt about this at all.

If Canadians had a private healthcare option, this wouldn't even be an issue. I could just buy private healthcare, and my use would be paid for privately, and none of your damn business.

Actually five times is a lot for someone your age.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 19, 2022, 02:00:43 PM
Actually five times is a lot for someone your age.

Yes.

Definitely higher than average.

🙁
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2022, 02:01:56 PM
Antivaxxers have made a clear CHOICE not to get vaccinated.

Nobody CHOOSES to be an addict.

HUGE difference.


Also addicts have consequences. Criminal charges, fines, increased insurance premiums....

Antivaxxers have NO consequences.

 :(

An increased chance of getting very sick from COVID is their consequence.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 19, 2022, 02:03:08 PM
I'm just saying to OAK - he's trying to threaten me as an unvaccinated person, that I will pay more for healthcare.

But I wouldn't. In my health status, I'd get private insurance easily.

So if Canada is REALLY going down that road - fine. I can accept that.

You won’t qualify for life insurance either.

I hope you have alternate plans in place so your family is taken care of.

🙂
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2022, 02:07:48 PM
Most drug addicts I've made are making the choice not to get better. They simply don't give a fuck and want to get high.

But regardless, that's just one example.

If you want to change the system so that we all get healthcare based on our personal choices, I am FINE with that.

Then I'd literally pay nothing for healthcare I never use.

So if you want us to go down that road, OAK - I'm perfectly fine with that.


You have to used the healthcare system. You've gone to the hospital 5 times. Did you forget you posted that?

Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 19, 2022, 02:09:44 PM
Exactly, and - as far as I'm aware, no.

I've gone to the hospital five times in my life. Twice for stitches, and three times for antibiotics. One was a bout of pneumonia, and one was a cat scratch which became infected.

How am I at risk of burdening the system?

You have a prior history of pneumonia?

I didn’t know that!

That’s means you’re HIGH RISK for COVID death.

All those stats you posted about HEALTHY people dying of COVID don’t apply to you.

WOW…..you’re even more STUPID than I thought!

😮
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Gym-Rat on August 19, 2022, 02:11:08 PM
I got the dreaded Rona and was sick for 1.5 days.
My cousin (age 52) took the Vax (he wasnt sick ever) and died from it. (Clots/heart-attack).

I's say "Non-Vax" > "Vax-Tards".

LOL, VaxTardz  ::) ::)


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Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2022, 02:17:04 PM
You’ll be grouped with losers like this guy.

That’s how premiums are calculated.

😆

If your healthcare insurance was a group plan and the fellow who spent over a year in the hospital with COVID was on the same plan as you, everyone on the plan would pay higher premiums. At least that is how it works here in the U.S.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 19, 2022, 02:20:54 PM
Actually five times is a lot for someone your age.

The fuck are you talking about? I've been to the hospital twice for stitches, once for pneumonia, and two other times for antibiotics.

You realize in Canada, half the population doesn't have a family doctor, so you need to go to the ER when you get sick.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: illuminati on August 19, 2022, 02:57:05 PM
I got the dreaded Rona and was sick for 1.5 days.
My cousin (age 52) took the Vax (he wasnt sick ever) and died from it. (Clots/heart-attack).

I's say "Non-Vax" > "Vax-Tards".

LOL, VaxTardz  ::) ::)


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The Brain Deaden Mass Psychosis suffering T.E.Vaccinated Lot on here
Won't believe you Ever.

Any News / Reports / Studies / Medical people saying anything remotely
Negative about their T.E.Vaccines They Just Cannot handle or Admit
there are & have been Countless serious adverse reactions & deaths from it.

What the Fuck does that say about their state of Mind ??
Other than to abuse & poke fun at them there really is very little point
Trying to have any kind of Conversation with them about These T.E.Vaccines,
Their hardly Logical & Rational thinking are They !!

Let's see if Any of Them have the balls to Admit There are & have been Major issues with these MRNA T.E.Vaccines

Were Waiting................. .
J.oak ? Prime ? StupidTheKhunt? Frenchie ? TimupTheArseFogerty ? Lurkio ?
StrawKhunt ? And any others I've missed / forgotten.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2022, 03:05:01 PM
The fuck are you talking about? I've been to the hospital twice for stitches, once for pneumonia, and two other times for antibiotics.

You realize in Canada, half the population doesn't have a family doctor, so you need to go to the ER when you get sick.

That is stupid. So I guess this means you are one of those multitudes of people without a primary care physician?

I've been on a Medicare Advantage plan for about 12 years. If I go to the ER I pay a $90. copay which is waived if I am admitted to the hospital. Here in the U.S. there is urgent care which one uses if they have a non-emergency and can't get in soon enough to see their regular doctor. My copay for that service is $40.

In the U.S. If someone goes to emergency and the hospital determines it is not an emergency, they don't legally have to treat you. If you don't have a doctor and you need a prescription for antibiotics, you should go to urgent care.

People with no healthcare insurance pay between $100 and $200 for an urgent care visit. The average cost of an emergency room visit for folks without healthcare insurance is $2,200. It can run a lot more if extensive treatment is needed.   
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Freemason on August 19, 2022, 03:41:15 PM
Here in the USA group insurance plans can NOT charge more for anyone regardless of vax status or any other factors. Everyone pays the same by law. A few “woke” companies attempted to charge a separate fee early on (perhaps Delta was one?) but those were quickly challenged and shut down.

In fact most group plans charge you the same rate for family coverage with one kid or ten kids. I pay about $500 a month for top tier PPO coverage for the whole family.

Canadians are fucked. But I guess that goes along with not being able to own property up there either. Bunch of frigid slaves to the queen in the great white north.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: joswift on August 19, 2022, 04:32:56 PM
🙂

you do know that news headline validates exactly what he wrote dont you?
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 19, 2022, 04:35:46 PM
🙂
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 19, 2022, 04:38:28 PM
😆
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: The Scott on August 19, 2022, 04:43:21 PM
😆

Liar.

There will be no coming back from where you are going.   

FOADAFDG

Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 19, 2022, 04:50:49 PM
Here in the USA group insurance plans can NOT charge more for anyone regardless of vax status or any other factors. Everyone pays the same by law. A few “woke” companies attempted to charge a separate fee early on (perhaps Delta was one?) but those were quickly challenged and shut down.

In fact most group plans charge you the same rate for family coverage with one kid or ten kids. I pay about $500 a month for top tier PPO coverage for the whole family.

Canadians are fucked. But I guess that goes along with not being able to own property up there either. Bunch of frigid slaves to the queen in the great white north.

$500 a month for full family coverage is amazing. Is this insurance through your employer? Before I retired, I had 2 party PPO health insurance through my employer. Most of the $1,200 monthly premium cost was paid by my employer, I think I paid less than $100 a month. Like yours, it was top tier coverage.

Since retiring, I am on Regence MedAdvantage Classic, also a PPO. The monthly Medicare part B premium is $170, and the Regence MedAdvantage adds another $47 to that which includes Part D. and provides slightly better coverage than basic Medicare does. Some people think Medicare is free. This is not true. 
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 20, 2022, 09:59:16 AM
I'm just saying to OAK - he's trying to threaten me as an unvaccinated person, that I will pay more for healthcare.

But I wouldn't. In my health status, I'd get private insurance easily.

So if Canada is REALLY going down that road - fine. I can accept that.

So much for the unvaccinated not costing our healthcare system more.

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Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Matt on August 20, 2022, 10:29:36 AM
So much for the unvaccinated not costing our healthcare system more.

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To die of Covid, you first need to be at risk for dying of Covid:

- Over the age of 65-70.
- Multiple underlying diseases.

Among people at my age and in my health status, the odds of dying of Covid are lower than 1 in 300,000.

So this doesn't apply to me.

You should go tell all your obese friends to get boosters.

Even then, I am not convinced that it would be good for them. I am waiting on more studies.
Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: OAK on August 20, 2022, 10:41:49 AM
To die of Covid, you first need to be at risk for dying of Covid:

- Over the age of 65-70.
- Multiple underlying diseases.

Among people at my age and in my health status, the odds of dying of Covid are lower than 1 in 300,000.

So this doesn't apply to me.

You should go tell all your obese friends to get boosters.

Even then, I am not convinced that it would be good for them. I am waiting on more studies.

Don’t forget.

Because you previously had pneumonia (rare for someone so young) you’re in the second highest risk group for COVID.

When it comes to COVID you’re less healthy than the obese.

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Title: Re: Antivaxxer Freedom! 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: Primemuscle on August 20, 2022, 02:12:51 PM
Don’t forget.

Because you previously had pneumonia (rare for someone so young) you’re in the second highest risk group for COVID.

When it comes to COVID you’re less healthy than the obese.

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I am chided by some Getbiggers because I took/take reasonable precautions to avoid getting or having serious symptoms from COVID. The first time I had pneumonia was as a newborn. As a kid and an adult when I caught the common cold it would progress to bronchial or pneumococcal pneumonia. In addition to this, I have allergies which likely triggered several asthma attacks during my lifetime. At least one of which landed me in the ER.

Another common factor with risk of severe COVID symptoms is old age. I am literally a week off from being 78 years old. At least I am not also obese, or it would be 3 strikes and you are out, audios amigos!

Weighing the above against the possible negative side effects from COVID vaccines. Getting vaccinated was a no-brainer. Any rational thinking person would do the same.

When I had COVID last February, I was lucky in that I had none of the immediate common symptoms such as a headache, nausea, and fever. Not surprisingly, I did get pneumonia which my doctor treated with antibiotics. It took two prescriptions back-to-back to finally knock out the pneumonia. It is possible that COVID caused me some inner ear problems which have gradually improved. I could not get an appointment with an ENT doctor until September. It seems possible they are overwhelmed with ‘long COVID’ patients. .