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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Al Doggity on December 18, 2022, 04:54:13 PM
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Title is (partly) an exaggeration, but Twitter has been a categorical mess for the last few days.
Musk is trying to raise more investor funding at the inflated price he paid for the company. Revenue and ad serve pages have plummeted, not only faster than anyone predicted, but at a pace that did not even seem possible a few months ago.
Until recently, I was 40/60 on whether he could shock everyone and turn it around, but I read that he's banning links to other social media sites. I'm sure this will be reversed soon, after it drives twitter a little bit further into the ground, but to me, this was the clearest sign that he just doesn't understand social media enough to actually make it profitable. Being able to promote accounts on other platforms is a basic, vital feature .
We can throw the idea that he's sly like a fox out the window. He's cashed in $40bn in Tesla stock as the stock plummets and major investors call for him to step down as ceo.
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Not my kind of chart. Still at about a 45 PE coming into an economic slowdown. Not a good environment for an extravagant discretionary product like a Tesla.
Don’t know why he had such a hard on for Twitter. It was always shit.
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Title is (partly) an exaggeration, but Twitter has been a categorical mess for the last few days.
Musk is trying to raise more investor funding at the inflated price he paid for the company. Revenue and ad serve pages have plummeted, not only faster than anyone predicted, but at a pace that did not even seem possible a few months ago.
Until recently, I was 40/60 on whether he could shock everyone and turn it around, but I read that he's banning links to other social media sites. I'm sure this will be reversed soon, after it drives twitter a little bit further into the ground, but to me, this was the clearest sign that he just doesn't understand social media enough to actually make it profitable. Being able to promote accounts on other platforms is a basic, vital feature .
We can throw the idea that he's sly like a fox out the window. He's cashed in $40bn in Tesla stock as the stock plummets and major investors call for him to step down as ceo.
You also previously said Canadian hospitals, and hospitals in general, were "overwhelmed", and you were completely wrong.
Let's do the math, AL Doggity:
Thus far, in the 1,059 days since Canada's first Covid case on 2020-01-25, Canada has had:
193,683 hospitalizations for Covid.
29,844 ICU admissions for Covid.
^ Spread over 1,300 hospitals.
Now for those of you who understand long division:
That's 149 hospitalizations and 23 ICU admissions.
...over 1,059 days. Per hospital.
That works out to ONE additional hospitalization every SEVEN DAYS, and one additional ICU patient every 46 DAYS - PER HOSPITAL.
Hospitals were NEVER overwhelmed. Ever. Absolute lie.
So why should I trust you now, AL Doggity? 🐶
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Twitter is a corporation I assume so if it goes bottoms up it really doesn't affect Musk beyond what he's invested, which is considerably less than what is claimed.
Tesla was always way overpriced so it is now becoming more fairly valued.
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You also previously said Canadian hospitals, and hospitals in general, were "overwhelmed", and you were completely wrong.
Let's do the math, AL Doggity:
Thus far, in the 1,059 days since Canada's first Covid case on 2020-01-25, Canada has had:
193,683 hospitalizations for Covid.
29,844 ICU admissions for Covid.
^ Spread over 1,300 hospitals.
Now for those of you who understand long division:
That's 149 hospitalizations and 23 ICU admissions.
...over 1,059 days. Per hospital.
That works out to ONE additional hospitalization every SEVEN DAYS, and one additional ICU patient every 46 DAYS - PER HOSPITAL.
Hospitals were NEVER overwhelmed. Ever. Absolute lie.
So why should I trust you now, AL Doggity? 🐶
What I said was that staffing shortages were one of the major driving factor in hospitals being overwhelmed, and why dividing number of total hospital beds by total number of patients was a stupid way to figure out capacity, because A)patient intake surges and ebbs B)nurses can only care for so many beds effectively C) Covid patients were never the only patients in hospitals, much less ICUs D) all hospitals attempt to operate significantly under capacity among multiple other points.
I wouldn't expect you to "trust" me , because with the reasoning you've shown in previous threads, I'm sure you've deduced that since Musk paid $40bln for twitter, then twitter is worth $40billion and should the company run into financial problems he can just sell his $40bln asset to fix them. ::)
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Twitter is a corporation I assume so if it goes bottoms up it really doesn't affect Musk beyond what he's invested, which is considerably less than what is claimed.
Tesla was always way overpriced so it is now becoming more fairly valued.
Musk's net worth is based primarily on Tesla stock and tesla stock is largely based the Myth of Musk (as you somewhat obliquely acknowledged.) The twitter problem for Elon is that the more he fucks up twitter, the more the curtain is pulled back on how much his other businesses are smoke and mirrors. That's where his image and net worth will really take a hit.
Not my kind of chart. Still at about a 45 PE coming into an economic slowdown. Not a good environment for an extravagant discretionary product like a Tesla.
Don’t know why he had such a hard on for Twitter. It was always shit.
I don't think he realized just how limited Twitter was. He tweeted something about twitter having the highest clickthrough rate. He though he was getting a company that was comparable in influence to facebook, but the business model does not lend itself to monetizing easily. On top of that, he clearly does not understand that one of the hardest things about international media brands is adhering to local laws in the markets they operate in.
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It’s bad for him. He’ll still be rich but he’s going to take a beating. He looks like he bought Twitter to be able to rant and troll people.
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Yeah fuck Musk.
Guy's interested in free speech. 1st amendment. Must be some kind of a fucking asshole. Can you believe he wanted to expose the link between the government and social media? Not to mention expose the propaganda and censorship. Only a real asshole would want to do something like that.
I want to be misled by big tech and deprived of basic freedoms by the government god dammit. I demand it! And im not gonna let some guy like musk try to stop it.
Im with you Al!
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Probaly a great investment at 150
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What I said was that staffing shortages were one of the major driving factor in hospitals being overwhelmed, and why dividing number of total hospital beds by total number of patients was a stupid way to figure out capacity, because A)patient intake surges and ebbs B)nurses can only care for so many beds effectively C) Covid patients were never the only patients in hospitals, much less ICUs D) all hospitals attempt to operate significantly under capacity among multiple other points.
I wouldn't expect you to "trust" me , because with the reasoning you've shown in previous threads, I'm sure you've deduced that since Musk paid $40bln for twitter, then twitter is worth $40billion and should the company run into financial problems he can just sell his $40bln asset to fix them. ::)
Even if you multiplied the number of patients by 10, the hospitals would never have been overwhelmed. It was all bullshit. One new patient a week isn't "overwhelmed", nor would 10 new patients each week be.
Hospitals were in fact empty.
How come you no longer wear a mask, AL Doggity?
Because you realized your own position was wrong.
So why should I trust you now?
You lied to me.
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Musk is probably controlled opp...never made a profit on any company after Paypal and every company is cozy with fedgov.
Sometimes when you hear things you want to hear at these levels it may be to keep others from speaking up en masse.
In any case the formula appears the same as any other person in the "big club" as Carlin put it.
Unless you think they just let a private guy take over for NASA, LOL.
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Maybe Elon was willing to pay to learn and expose the truth about the FBI and Twitter censorship and once he’s released all of the info, he’ll be satisfied and will sell the company back to the libtards.
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Maybe Elon was willing to pay to learn and expose the truth about the FBI and Twitter censorship and once he’s released all of the info, he’ll be satisfied and will sell the company back to the libtards.
Oddly... exposing it probably really won't make a difference. Those people smsrt enough to think for themselves already knew about the censorship. It was obvious. Liberal ideology is like a cult now. Even after the truth is known they'll still continue to support it.
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I'm glad. I don't like and trust this fella. I wish him nothing but the worst.
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It’s bad for him. He’ll still be rich but he’s going to take a beating. He looks like he bought Twitter to be able to rant and troll people.
Musk is cut from a different cloth, but what he says, I tend to believe. For example, he believes we should have as many kids as possible to prevent depopulation, and he's doing just that.
So when he says what Twitter was doing was a threat to democracy and needs to be exposed, I believe that too.
Have you been reading the email releases through Weiss and Taibbi? He is showing that leadership at Twitter was doing exactly what was thought - manipulating content under the guise of an independent algorithm. Likely for political purposes.
Also exposes hypocrisy - grown ass adults losing their shit over a few suspensions, who were all silent when the Post was being suppressed.
Does he have some Trump like pettiness? Seems like it, and I'd like him to stop, but I honestly think he believes he is doing the right thing.
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His dad is cut from a different cloth as well:
Errol Musk (born 1946) is a South African electromechanical engineer, pilot, sailor, consultant, and property developer who was once a co-owner of a Zambian emerald mine near Lake Tanganyika.
He is the father of business magnate and billionaire Elon Musk, restaurateur Kimbal Musk, and filmmaker Tosca Musk. He was married to Maye Musk and also to Heide Bezuidenhout, and has two children with Bezuidenhout's daughter Jana Bezuidenhout.
Errol Musk was married to Heide Bezuidenhout for eighteen years and helped her raise her young daughter Jana Bezuidenhout, a child from a previous relationship. At the time of their marriage, Jana Bezuidenhout was only four years old and lived together with them. Later in life, after splitting from Heide Bezuidenhout, he fathered two children with her daughter (his former step-daughter) Jana Bezuidenhout; a son born in 2017 and a daughter born in 2019. Musk described the first child as unplanned. At the time of their daughter's birth, according to The Times, Musk was 72 and Jana Bezuidenhout was 30 years old. As of 2022, Musk and Jana Bezuidenhout were no longer living together...
Again, this is "Big Club" stuff...
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Again, this is "Big Club" stuff...
Is Woody Allen the president of this club?
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Is Woody Allen the president of this club?
Did you say President?
"The diary’s most newsworthy moments are suggestive but stop short of making any concrete allegations against Ashley Biden’s father. In the most-often quoted passage, she writes, “Hyper-sexualized @ a young age. What is this due to? Was I molested. I think so – I can’t remember specifics but I do remember trauma – I remember not liking the woolzacks house; I remember somewhat being sexualized with [a cousin]; I remember having sex with Friends @ a young age; showers w/my dad (probably not appropriate). Being turned on when I wasn’t supposed to be.”
https://theintercept.com/2022/09/07/project-veritas-ashley-biden-diary-leak/
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Yeah he thought twitter was hot shit because him and some of his rich buddies used it. Kind of confirmation bias going on.. He lives in his own bubble alot. Every day normal people do not use twitter, its not for the common man like Facebook(was). Thats why the business is not worth as much as he thinks. Bots where probably a big part of that platform, so partly he also got conned into thinking it was bigger than it is. But mostly like I said confirmation bias going on. He's trying some desperate measures to recover the losses. Because it wasn't all his money, alot of his billionaire buddies helped paying the 42 billion for it because he's like the king-pimp of billionaires and they will do what he says.
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musk is dark.. there is a sinister aura about him that emanates blackness.
he reminds me very much of jarred cushner - they r the same inside.
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Yeah fuck Musk.
Guy's interested in free speech. 1st amendment. Must be some kind of a fucking asshole. Can you believe he wanted to expose the link between the government and social media? Not to mention expose the propaganda and censorship. Only a real asshole would want to do something like that.
I want to be misled by big tech and deprived of basic freedoms by the government god dammit. I demand it! And im not gonna let some guy like musk try to stop it.
Im with you Al!
Did you hear what else Elon got up to over the weekend? I'll try to keep these cliffs short, cuz it's a free speech doozie!
-There was an account called @elonjet that posted PUBLICLY AVAILABLE flight records of Musk's jet. Elon was aware of this account and offered the guy who ran it 5k to shut it down. The guy declined and asked for more money. When Elon bought twitter, he said he was such a free speech absolutist, that even though he didn't agree with the account, he supported it existing.
-A few days ago, Elon claimed he was being stalked and harassed by someone as a result elonjets "doxxing" him. Elonjets hadn't posted his flight records to his location. Musk posted video of the alleged stalker and internet users geotracked the photo, which was nowhere near an airport. Police released a statement saying that no one had contacted them in regards to the alleged stalker.
-Musk shut down the Elonjets account and threatened the guy who ran it with legal action for posting "assassination coordinates" ;D ... even though the account hadn't posted his location.
-Musk then banned any reporter who covered the story- claiming they had also doxxed him- even though they did not print his address, real time location and Musk had previously said that having accounts like elonjet on twitter was important for free speech.
THAT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING
-Some of the banned reporters joined a twitter spaces event to discuss the bannings. Elon joined the twitter space. When it was pointed out that he was doing exactly what he accused old twitter of doing, he said he didn't care.
-He then left the twitter chat THEN SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE TWITTER SPACES SERVICE!
-He had been using Bari Weiss to dripfeed conservatives The Twitter Files over the last week or so. His diligent sock-puppet released a statement saying she didn't agree with ruling twitter by whims whether it was the old regime or new. He called her a virtue-signaling suck up.
-He launched a poll asking if the journalists should be unbanned. The results came back with unban immediately. So he threw that poll out and set up a new poll that he thought was worded more favorable towards a longer suspension. The results came back with "unban immediately" winning by an even bigger margin.
But this is your free speech absolutist savior though, right? ::)
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Did you hear what else Elon got up to over the weekend? I'll try to keep these cliffs short, cuz it's a free speech doozie!
-There was an account called @elonjet that posted PUBLICLY AVAILABLE flight records of Musk's jet. Elon was aware of this account and offered the guy who ran it 5k to shut it down. The guy declined and asked for more money. When Elon bought twitter, he said he was such a free speech absolutist, that even though he didn't agree with the account, he supported it existing.
-A few days ago, Elon claimed he was being stalked and harassed by someone as a result elonjets "doxxing" him. Elonjets hadn't posted his flight records to his location. Musk posted video of the alleged stalker and internet users geotracked the photo, which was nowhere near an airport. Police released a statement saying that no one had contacted them in regards to the alleged stalker.
-Musk shut down the Elonjets account and threatened the guy who ran it with legal action for posting "assassination coordinates" ;D ... even though the account hadn't posted his location.
-Musk then banned any reporter who covered the story- claiming they had also doxxed him- even though they did not print his address, real time location and Musk had previously said that having accounts like elonjet on twitter was important for free speech.
THAT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING
-Some of the banned reporters joined a twitter spaces event to discuss the bannings. Elon joined the twitter space. When it was pointed out that he was doing exactly what he accused old twitter of doing, he said he didn't care.
-He then left the twitter chat THEN SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE TWITTER SPACES SERVICE!
-He had been using Bari Weiss to dripfeed conservatives The Twitter Files over the last week or so. His diligent sock-puppet released a statement saying she didn't agree with ruling twitter by whims whether it was the old regime or new. He called her a virtue-signaling suck up.
-He launched a poll asking if the journalists should be unbanned. The results came back with unban immediately. So he threw that poll out and set up a new poll that he thought was worded more favorable towards a longer suspension. The results came back with "unban immediately" winning by an even bigger margin.
But this is your free speech absolutist savior though, right? ::)
You're afraid of a 99.97% survivable virus. Why would Getbiggers take stock investment advice from you?
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You're afraid of a 99.97% survivable virus. Why would Getbiggers take stock investment advice from you?
Twitter is a private company, Matt. Stock is not available for purchase. ::)
Where did I give stock advice? Why would being afraid of a 99% survivable virus affect someone's ability to recommend stocks?
Also, where did I say I was "afraid" of a survivable virus? In that thread, the point I made over and over again was that someone surviving an affliction does not mean they did not have an impact on the healthcare system.
Thanks for more rock-solid logic, Matt. ;)
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Twitter is a private company, Matt. Stock is not available for purchase. ::)
Where did I give stock advice? Why would being afraid of a 99% survivable virus affect someone's ability to recommend stocks?
Also, where did I say I was "afraid" of a survivable virus? In that thread, the point I made over and over again was that someone surviving an affliction does not mean they did not have an impact on the healthcare system.
Thanks for more rock-solid logic, Matt. ;)
unlike your anus,which is publicly traded....
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Did you hear what else Elon got up to over the weekend? I'll try to keep these cliffs short, cuz it's a free speech doozie!
-There was an account called @elonjet that posted PUBLICLY AVAILABLE flight records of Musk's jet. Elon was aware of this account and offered the guy who ran it 5k to shut it down. The guy declined and asked for more money. When Elon bought twitter, he said he was such a free speech absolutist, that even though he didn't agree with the account, he supported it existing.
-A few days ago, Elon claimed he was being stalked and harassed by someone as a result elonjets "doxxing" him. Elonjets hadn't posted his flight records to his location. Musk posted video of the alleged stalker and internet users geotracked the photo, which was nowhere near an airport. Police released a statement saying that no one had contacted them in regards to the alleged stalker.
-Musk shut down the Elonjets account and threatened the guy who ran it with legal action for posting "assassination coordinates" ;D ... even though the account hadn't posted his location.
-Musk then banned any reporter who covered the story- claiming they had also doxxed him- even though they did not print his address, real time location and Musk had previously said that having accounts like elonjet on twitter was important for free speech.
THAT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING
-Some of the banned reporters joined a twitter spaces event to discuss the bannings. Elon joined the twitter space. When it was pointed out that he was doing exactly what he accused old twitter of doing, he said he didn't care.
-He then left the twitter chat THEN SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE TWITTER SPACES SERVICE!
-He had been using Bari Weiss to dripfeed conservatives The Twitter Files over the last week or so. His diligent sock-puppet released a statement saying she didn't agree with ruling twitter by whims whether it was the old regime or new. He called her a virtue-signaling suck up.
-He launched a poll asking if the journalists should be unbanned. The results came back with unban immediately. So he threw that poll out and set up a new poll that he thought was worded more favorable towards a longer suspension. The results came back with "unban immediately" winning by an even bigger margin.
But this is your free speech absolutist savior though, right? ::)
There are way too many liberties taken with what you wrote and im not going to spend the next week of my life going round and round with you.
He's fucking with people who are personally fucking with him. So what.
The old regime was censoring information that impacted the ENTIRE nation.
Ill simply point out:
So it's only wrong when he's doing it. Its a major fucking problem now that he's doing it you don't like it? But when the other side was being censored you were fine with it?
Debating with you is pointless. You only hear what you want to hear and only recognize stats/stories that support your point of view.
He's proven his point. He's exposing the truth. And now everyone is showing how PATHETICALLY SUBJECTIVE nd BIASED they are by throwing a hissy fit about it now that they don't like whats coming out.
But when twitter censored legitimate stories about COVID
Or the Biden laptop it was fine.
I dont care what else he does, he's exposing a lot of dirty secrets. I suppose you support the FBI controlling information and social engineering?
Congratulations, you're the first person I'm ignoring.
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unlike your anus,which is publicly traded....
This is how you choose to simp for a guy who sends jack off vids to gay men, unsolicited? Seek help.
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There are way too many liberties taken with what you wrote and im not going to spend the next week of my life going round and round with you.
He's fucking with people who are personally fucking with him. So what.
He's proven his point. He's exposing the truth. And now everyone is showing how PATHETICALLY SUBJECTIVE nd BIASED they are by throwing a hissy fit about it now that they don't like whats coming out.
Not at all. Even his allies called him out. He got so much backlash that he backtracked and apologized and claimed all future decisions would be up to a community vote. He is currently running a poll asking if he should step down.
Multiple times he has basically said that he would run twitter very closely to how it was being run before he bought it, and he has shown that he actually runs it much worse. I guess I'm just wasting my breath though... as I'm on the ignore list. ::)
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There are way too many liberties taken with what you wrote and im not going to spend the next week of my life going round and round with you.
He's fucking with people who are personally fucking with him. So what.
The old regime was censoring information that impacted the ENTIRE nation.
Ill simply point out:
So it's only wrong when he's doing it. Its a major fucking problem now that he's doing it you don't like it? But when the other side was being censored you were fine with it?
Debating with you is pointless. You only hear what you want to hear and only recognize stats/stories that support your point of view.
He's proven his point. He's exposing the truth. And now everyone is showing how PATHETICALLY SUBJECTIVE nd BIASED they are by throwing a hissy fit about it now that they don't like whats coming out.
But when twitter censored legitimate stories about COVID
Or the Biden laptop it was fine.
I dont care what else he does, he's exposing a lot of dirty secrets. I suppose you support the FBI controlling information and social engineering?
Congratulations, you're the first person I'm ignoring.
Great post. Glad you said it. It's frustrating talking to a moron who thinks a 99.97% survivable virus that literally not one Getbigger knows anyone who died of, is some lethal threat [exceptions for 2-3 walking corpses who would have died anyway].
Al Doggity also thought hospitals were "overwhelmed" when they were literally empty. This idiot could have just gone to a hospital emergence room parking lot and literally GLANCED in, seeing it was completely empty.
But no.
Now that the global population has gone up from 7.7 billion at the pandemic start, to 8 billion today, does this idiot Al Doggity spend ONE SECOND to ask himself "Gee, could it be there was no lethal pandemic?"
Absolutely not.
He was shown data showing hospitals were empty. Literally not even one additional ICU patient entering monthly - and most of those people were elderly diseased people who would have been hospitalized with or without Covid.
Al Doggity bought into all of that. There is no talking sense to this idiot. He'll believe what he wants until the evidence goes overwhelmingly against him - then he'll still won't admit to being wrong. Not even to himself.
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LOL buying twitter for 44 billion is like relaunching myspace for 1 billion. FOH, i have like 6 dummy twitter accounts.
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But this is your free speech absolutist savior though, right? ::)
You're a free speech despising leftist. Who the fuck are you to talk about free speech?
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Great post. Glad you said it. It's frustrating talking to a moron who thinks a 99.97% survivable virus that literally not one Getbigger knows anyone who died of, is some lethal threat [exceptions for 2-3 walking corpses who would have died anyway].
Al Doggity also thought hospitals were "overwhelmed" when they were literally empty. This idiot could have just gone to a hospital emergence room parking lot and literally GLANCED in, seeing it was completely empty.
But no.
Now that the global population has gone up from 7.7 billion at the pandemic start, to 8 billion today, does this idiot Al Doggity spend ONE SECOND to ask himself "Gee, could it be there was no lethal pandemic?"
Absolutely not.
He was shown data showing hospitals were empty. Literally not even one additional ICU patient entering monthly - and most of those people were elderly diseased people who would have been hospitalized with or without Covid.
Al Doggity bought into all of that. There is no talking sense to this idiot. He'll believe what he wants until the evidence goes overwhelmingly against him - then he'll still won't admit to being wrong. Not even to himself.
Matt, you have a poor understanding of logic, reasoning and numbers. Your argument in that thread was piss poor and its only gotten worse. You showed no data that hospitals were empty. As a matter of fact, at one point you were advocating doubling all nurse and doctor salaries. Just as you think beakdoctor's lame post was great because it took a weak shot at me, you think you can create non-existent points of argument in your head and then declare yourself a debate victor. I didn't say any of what you claim I said and you barely said any of what you claim you said.
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You're a free speech despising leftist. Who the fuck are you to talk about free speech?
See? Once again, you don't feel you have to have any sort of rationality or logic when it comes to debate. You are creating your own arguments out of thin air.
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Matt, you have a poor understanding of logic, reasoning and numbers. Your argument in that thread was piss poor and its only gotten worse. You showed no data that hospitals were empty. As a matter of fact, at one point you were advocating doubling all nurse and doctor salaries. Just as you think beakdoctor's lame post was great because it took a weak shot at me, you think you can create non-existent points of argument in your head and then declare yourself a debate victor. I didn't say any of what you claim I said and you barely said any of what you claim you said.
The data is below, you absolute phaggot:
Re: The "hospitals were overwhelmed" lie.
Let's do the math:
Thus far, in the 1,059 days since Canada's first Covid case on 2020-01-25, Canada has had:
193,683 hospitalizations for Covid.
29,844 ICU admissions for Covid.
^ Spread over 1,300 hospitals.
That's 149 hospitalizations and 23 ICU admissions.
...over 1,059 days. Per hospital.
That works out to ONE additional hospitalization every SEVEN DAYS, and one additional ICU patient every 46 DAYS - PER HOSPITAL.
Hospitals were NEVER overwhelmed. Ever. Absolute lie.
REFERENCES:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html#figure6-header
https://www.statista.com/statistics/440923/total-number-of-hospital-establishments-in-canada-by-province/
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The data is below, you absolute phaggot:
Re: The "hospitals were overwhelmed" lie.
If there's one thing you can count on, it's Matt posting unreliable data then interpreting it incorrectly. Went back to the original thread where you posted this and here was my response:
In the screencap you posted, I saw that it said "hospital establishments". I looked into it a little further, and as I suspected, that number includes a lot of facilities that aren't equipped to handle acute care.According to the statista infographic, there are 371 "hospital establishments" in ontario, but OHA says that only about 1/5th of those are eligible to perform the type of critical care Covid ICU patients would need. On top of that, Canadian hospitals were already experiencing a massive, extremely well-publicized bed crunch prior to the pandemic. In that OHA response, they address the exact number of available beds and the exact number of patients from covid at that time (which was 23% of all available beds. ) So, even assuming your other numbers are accurate (which I haven't bothered checking) , excluding 80% of "hospital establishments" makes a big change, especially when you keep in mind that treating covid is very resource intensive. Covid patients have longer than average stays and most medical facilities are still practicing some form of distancing/isolation while treating patients.
https://www.oha.com/Bulletins/OHA%20Fact%20Sheet%20on%20Hospital%20Capacity%20and%20Projections%20Jan%2015%202021.pdf
Here's part of your response:
I was wondering about that, but my data analysis is only as good as my data/sources.
Al Doggity - those are good points you brought up...
Hopefully later today, I can attempt to correct the error in my analysis that you brought up.
;)
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If there's one thing you can count on, it's Matt posting unreliable data then interpreting it incorrectly. Went back to the original thread where you posted this and here was my response:
Here's part of your response:
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Unreliable data? It's the government fucking data, dipshit.
As for defining what a "hospital" is, do you get that even if 10 TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE were hospitalized for Covid, they still would not have been "overwhelmed".
Furthermore, hospitals didn't do ANYTHING here for people with Covid - they would check in, and be immediately sent back home to push vaccine sales! Fucking idiot.
The only reliable data we have - maybe - would be ICU capacity. And the average Canadaan ICU had EIGHT additional patients per year.
In my city, we have 22 ICU beds. Do you know how many were filled during the pandemic peak?
27.
In 2013, my hospital needed more than 22 ICU beds [gridlock] on 320 of 365 days of the year.
The need for 27 total beds when only 22 are available here is VERY normal. And that was the maximum they hit during the so-called "lethal pandemic" peak.
Is that your definition of a crisis, AL Doggity? That's AVERAGE.
On top of that ICU capacity was reduced in 6 of 10 provinces!
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LOL buying twitter for 44 billion is like relaunching myspace for 1 billion. FOH, i have like 6 dummy twitter accounts.
I have dummy accounts as well. Most of the accounts are dummy accounts. A person is crazy to put their real thoughts out there under their real name.
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Al - look:
Your point on getting the most refined data as to what hospitals offer certain levels of care for respiratory pathogens [Covid] is a fair point.
But do you get that with even 10x as many patients on average, this wouldn't have been overwhelmed?
How do you define "overwhelmed", AL Doggity? One extra patient?
Al Doggity. 🐶
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LOL buying twitter for 44 billion is like relaunching myspace for 1 billion. FOH, i have like 6 dummy twitter accounts.
Compared to how many handles you have on here?
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Not my kind of chart. Still at about a 45 PE coming into an economic slowdown. Not a good environment for an extravagant discretionary product like a Tesla.
Don’t know why he had such a hard on for Twitter. It was always shit.
He had a hard-on for Twitter to try and save Western Civilization from destruction. The regressive left is going to completely destroy it. Look at what's happened to California, Philadelphia, etc. Western Civilization was built by Caucasians and the regressive left is anti-Caucasian. Well if they are in charge that means Caucasians lose. And so does the West.
Twitter actively interfered in the 2020 election in collusion with the FBI. An actual criminal offense. Musk has a lot of children and aspirations to go to Mars. That won't happen if the regressive left is in charge.
I am frustrated that he appears too emotional with how he is handling Twitter. He should have unbanned Alex Jones and made Kathy Griffith's ban permanent. You can't be soft with the left. You need to be brutal and treat them like you do the Mafia. Which is what they are. The time to be nice is over.
Musk overpaid for Twitter. His initial offer should have been less. But if it was they would not have had a reason to sell. I wonder if he could have just bought shares to acquire them. Or are there rules in place to prevent a takeover like that?
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He had a hard-on for Twitter to try and save Western Civilization from destruction. The regressive left is going to completely destroy it. Look at what's happened to California, Philadelphia, etc. Western Civilization was built by Caucasians and the regressive left is anti-Caucasian. Well if they are in charge that means Caucasians lose. And so does the West.
Twitter actively interfered in the 2020 election in collusion with the FBI. An actual criminal offense. Musk has a lot of children and aspirations to go to Mars. That won't happen if the regressive left is in charge.
I am frustrated that he appears too emotional with how he is handling Twitter. He should have unbanned Alex Jones and made Kathy Griffith's ban permanent. You can't be soft with the left. You need to be brutal and treat them like you do the Mafia. Which is what they are. The time to be nice is over.
Musk overpaid for Twitter. His initial offer should have been less. But if it was they would not have had a reason to sell. I wonder if he could have just bought shares to acquire them. Or are there rules in place to prevent a takeover like that?
C’mon it’s just a Leftist circle jerk that didn’t make money. The MySpace comparison is pretty solid.
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The poll has closed. 57% say he should step down and he said he would abide by the results. I wonder if he will still be able to air the dirty laundry of Twitter or will the new boss say “no”?
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You also previously said Canadian hospitals, and hospitals in general, were "overwhelmed", and you were completely wrong.
Let's do the math, AL Doggity:
Thus far, in the 1,059 days since Canada's first Covid case on 2020-01-25, Canada has had:
193,683 hospitalizations for Covid.
29,844 ICU admissions for Covid.
^ Spread over 1,300 hospitals.
Now for those of you who understand long division:
That's 149 hospitalizations and 23 ICU admissions.
...over 1,059 days. Per hospital.
That works out to ONE additional hospitalization every SEVEN DAYS, and one additional ICU patient every 46 DAYS - PER HOSPITAL.
Hospitals were NEVER overwhelmed. Ever. Absolute lie.
So why should I trust you now, AL Doggity? 🐶
Stop hurting the vulnerable with your math skills.
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The poll has closed. 57% say he should step down and he said he would abide by the results. I wonder if he will still be able to air the dirty laundry of Twitter or will the new boss say “no”?
Why would he take that poll when he knows Twitter is mostly liberal? It would be like Trump taking a poll in a liberal city on whether he should run in 2024. Sounds like Musk is looking for an out.
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Does anyone believe this guy works 100 hours per week as he says?
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Twitter is a private company, Matt. Stock is not available for purchase. ::)
Where did I give stock advice? Why would being afraid of a 99% survivable virus affect someone's ability to recommend stocks?
Also, where did I say I was "afraid" of a survivable virus? In that thread, the point I made over and over again was that someone surviving an affliction does not mean they did not have an impact on the healthcare system.
Thanks for more rock-solid logic, Matt. ;)
So, then why are the Journalists who got banned and the liberal media bitching about Free speech? I heard Musk say it was because they were giving out his location.
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Ever since I heard this guy talk I knew he was a bullshit artist.
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Stop hurting the vulnerable with your math skills.
Lol. ;D Thanks, Bruce.
The thing about the data that I posted is that even if hospitals were 3-10x as busy as that official data shows...it would still be nothing.
I mean, one additional hospitalization per WEEK?
Hospitals can't handle on extra patient a week? Lol.
Even 10x as "overwhelmed" as that OFFICIAL government data shows...
...would not be "overwhelmed".
Hospitals here were completely empty. Anyone with eyes and a rain who drove by could have seen that any time they wanted. A video from someone who went to film a hospital in Ottawa showed it was a complete ghost town.
Al Doggity probably believed there were mass Graves in New York too. Meanwhile, like seven bodies of homeless people were buried in Hart Island.
It was all a complete lie.
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Lol. ;D Thanks, Bruce.
The thing about the data that I posted is that even if hospitals were 3-10x as busy as that official data shows...it would still be nothing.
I mean, one additional hospitalization per WEEK?
Hospitals can't handle on extra patient a week? Lol.
Even 10x as "overwhelmed" as that OFFICIAL government data shows...
...would not be "overwhelmed".
Hospitals here were completely empty. Anyone with eyes and a rain who drove by could have seen that any time they wanted. A video from someone who went to film a hospital in Ottawa showed it was a complete ghost town.
Al Doggity probably believed there were mass Graves in New York too. Meanwhile, like seven bodies of homeless people were buried in Hart Island.
It was all a complete lie.
Never did the media question whether the China lockdowns were about more than Covid. The CCP’s party line was taken at face value. But, now that China is opening up and the gloom and doom forecasts are showing to be bullshit, AGAIN, the CCP’s numbers are questioned.
China reports first COVID deaths in weeks as official count questioned | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-officially-reports-first-covid-deaths-weeks-virus-wave-swells-2022-12-19/
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Stop hurting the vulnerable with your math skills.
Al Doggity - those are good points you brought up,
Hopefully later today, I can attempt to correct the error in my analysis that you brought up.
Wish we all had math skills this solid. ;)
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So, then why are the Journalists who got banned and the liberal media bitching about Free speech? I heard Musk say it was because they were giving out his location.
Why are you claiming it's only the journalists? Check out his reddit, even his cult thinks he went too far. No matter how much you want to convince yourself that the old twitter regime did nothing but bully conservatives, Musk's cherry-picked data proves that there was a lot of thought and discussion that went into maintaining the standards of the site. He randomly comes up with rules on a whim, based on how he's feeling and whether or not his feelings got hurt. He's one of the richest people in the world, he's the sole owner of a large social media network and he claimed that he's a free speech absolutist who purchased the site to foster free speech. C'mon? Are you really trying to tow the party line and claim you don't see a difference here>
And, no, they didn't reveal his location. The account in question posted publicly available information about his jet. Not only was he nowhere near an airport, the account hadn't even posted his most recent trips.
The poll has closed. 57% say he should step down and he said he would abide by the results. I wonder if he will still be able to air the dirty laundry of Twitter or will the new boss say “no”?
It's a private company, so him stepping down would not prevent him from making all major decisions, but I think he realizes the optics are very rough right now and probably wants to step back anyway.
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Does anyone believe this guy works 100 hours per week as he says?
Depends on the definition of “work”. Does he spend that much time in his office? Doubtful. But, I bet his phone is always on and he is in work mode close to every waking hour. He’s definitely a machine.
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Depends on the definition of “work”. Does he spend that much time in his office? Doubtful. But, I bet his phone is always on and he is in work mode close to every waking hour. He’s definitely a machine.
Let me ask you a few questions:
1)Do you think Musk being a founder a Tesla means he's smarter than the average person?
2) Do you think Tesla will have self-driving cars within the next few years?
3)How close do you think spaceX is to a manned flight to mars?
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Never did the media question whether the China lockdowns were about more than Covid. The CCP’s party line was taken at face value. But, now that China is opening up and the gloom and doom forecasts are showing to be bullshit, AGAIN, the CCP’s numbers are questioned.
China reports first COVID deaths in weeks as official count questioned | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-officially-reports-first-covid-deaths-weeks-virus-wave-swells-2022-12-19/
The official counts for cases and deaths are bullshit for these reasons:
[1] The test to determine positivity for Covid is the PCR test, which is not a diagnostic test - it is a chemical amplification test, used to amplify samples of genetic material or other material. The PCR test has something called a "cycle threshold", and the higher it is ramped up, the more likely it is to virtually test anything positive. Cycle thresholds of 34 or higher are completely useless - you can virtually have one molecule of Covid in your body, and test "positive".
The PCR test was purposely used with the cycle threshold ramped up, to churn out false positives, to make the pandemic look worse than it was. And Al Doggity 🐶 fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
[2] Deaths are primarily just elderly people with cancer, or other people with underlying disease, who died WITH Covid...not directly from Covid. For example, 748,000 of the 1,100,000 supposed "American Covid deaths" are people who have an average age of 84, with six or more underlying physical diseases.
That's fraud, straight up. Of course Al Doggity 🐶 bought every word said by the purveyors of the official narrative.
But how long would an 84-year-old with six diseases really live? So can you REALLY say they died of Covid - and these people close to death already account for 68% of ALL American Covid deaths!
That's 748,000 of the 1,100,000 American deaths! Literally extremely elderly with already dying of other diseases.
Again, that's just fraud.
Think about it this way:
How come the world population went from 7.7 billion at the start of the pandemic, to 8 billion today? ::)
The Spanish Flu infected something like 33% of the world's people, and killed 5% of the entire world's population.
Yet our population rose at record breaking levels during this pandemic. ::)
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Why are you claiming it's only the journalists? Check out his reddit, even his cult thinks he went too far. No matter how much you want to convince yourself that the old twitter regime did nothing but bully conservatives, Musk's cherry-picked data proves that there was a lot of thought and discussion that went into maintaining the standards of the site. He randomly comes up with rules on a whim, based on how he's feeling and whether or not his feelings got hurt. He's one of the richest people in the world, he's the sole owner of a large social media network and he claimed that he's a free speech absolutist who purchased the site to foster free speech. C'mon? Are you really trying to tow the party line and claim you don't see a difference here>
And, no, they didn't reveal his location. The account in question posted publicly available information about his jet. Not only was he nowhere near an airport, the account hadn't even posted his most recent trips.
It's a private company, so him stepping down would not prevent him from making all major decisions, but I think he realizes the optics are very rough right now and probably wants to step back anyway.
This is some of the most twisted gaslighting you’re going to find on the internet.
It’s like Keith Olberman has his own Getbig account.
On the other hand it is comical to watch liberals try to run from the election tampering and FTX money laundering scandals.
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This is some of the most twisted gaslighting you’re going to find on the internet.
It’s like Keith Olberman has his own Getbig account.
On the other hand it is comical to watch liberals try to run from the election tampering and FTX money laundering scandals.
They can dish it out but can’t take it. These same people were cheering when Trump got banned and the Hunter Biden story got censored.
I see Twitter the way I see Getbig. It’s Ron’s board. If he wants to ban me or anybody else it’s his call.
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Let me ask you a few questions:
1)Do you think Musk being a founder a Tesla means he's smarter than the average person?
2) Do you think Tesla will have self-driving cars within the next few years?
3)How close do you think spaceX is to a manned flight to mars?
Yes
Yes
No clue as I haven’t even looked into it. Only thing I know about space x is that they launch satellites into space. Not even sure if they have manned craft yet, but their rockets returning to the landing pad is pretty bad ass to watch.
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I’m trying to understand what’s going on in this thread.
Has Musk ruined the Twitter experience for people?
Is he using it the same way it was used before?
Is there still censoring?
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Al Doggity is one of the biggest dipshits on this board.
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This is some of the most twisted gaslighting you’re going to find on the internet.
It’s like Keith Olberman has his own Getbig account.
On the other hand it is comical to watch liberals try to run from the election tampering and FTX money laundering scandals.
You're the second person to say I'm gaslighting in this thread, but neither of you will elaborate. The other one claimed that my description of Musk's activities was so egregious that I'm the first person they've blocked! Please don't block me. Just elaborate on what points you think are gaslighting. Because I just posted abbreviated versions, most of them are even more damning in detail, so I'm curious as to what points you think need to be corrected.
(Btw, Bankman Fried says he donated almost as much to Republicans through dark money donations and his arrest filing confirmed it.)
They can dish it out but can’t take it. These same people were cheering when Trump got banned and the Hunter Biden story got censored.
I see Twitter the way I see Getbig. It’s Ron’s board. If he wants to ban me or anybody else it’s his call.
Yuu're being intellectually dishonest here. Musk doesn't even see twitter that way. He claimed he was purchasing twitter to save "free speech/ democracy". So, by his own standards, what he did was an enormous deal. It's not even comaparable to the events you're trying to compare it to.
Al Doggity is one of the biggest dipshits on this board.
Must be another member of my Still Butthurt Over Getting Owned Fan Club.
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Yes
Ok, so you answered "yes" to him being smarter than average because he founded Tesla. Would it surprise you to learn that he didn't found Tesla. He bought into it early on and then had the founders kicked out of the company and re-wrote the company history. He
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Al Doggity is one of the biggest dipshits on this board.
see the pattern here ?
Al Doggity: gay black man
vince goodrum: gay black man
Lurkernomore: gay black man
Strawman: gay black man
residue: gay black man
AbrahamG: gay black man
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see the pattern here ?
Al Doggity: gay black man
vince goodrum: gay black man
Lurkernomore: gay black man
Strawman: gay black man
residue: gay black man
AbrahamG: gay black man
The pattern is that anyone whose posts you don't agree with you call a gay black man?
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The pattern is that anyone whose posts you don't agree with you call a gay black man?
just the kind of response i would expect from a sassy, gay, black man that grew up with out a father....
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I’m trying to understand what’s going on in this thread.
Has Musk ruined the Twitter experience for people?
Is he using it the same way it was used before?
Is there still censoring?
Same difference as before Musk took over. It could disappear tomorrow and zero fucks would be given.
Of course, if Getbig disappeared, I’d be a broken man.😞
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Al Doggity is one of the biggest dipshits on this board.
While I don't agree with him on a ton of stuff, Al Doggity is a very good debater, does his homework, and backs up his shit.
He doesn't random link shit without reading, he knows his position and his argument.
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just the kind of response i would expect from a sassy, gay, black man that grew up with out a father....
The magic of that line is you could've used it for anything I posted. Or anything anyone posted. ::)
Is sending jack-off videos to gay men without them asking for it straight behavior in your opinion?
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The magic of that line is you could've used it for anything I posted. Or anything anyone posted. ::)
Is sending jack-off videos to gay men without them asking for it straight behavior in your opinion?
fuck matt, hes as gay as you are....
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fuck matt, hes as gay as you are....
it's like it's a pattern ???
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it's like it's a pattern ???
not really , the "Thunder Bay Deepthroater" has his own unique autist posting style as apposed to the same cookie cutter raging,gay,black, gibbon posting style you and your ilk poses
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not really , the "Thunder Bay Deepthroater" has his own unique autist posting style as apposed to the same cookie cutter raging,gay,black, gibbon posting style you and your ilk poses
Sarcasm, dummy.
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(Btw, Bankman Fried says he donated almost as much to Republicans through dark money donations and his arrest filing confirmed it.)
You have a link to this?
If it's true, it explain why he was arrested the day before he was supposed to testify.
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You're the second person to say I'm gaslighting in this thread, but neither of you will elaborate. The other one claimed that my description of Musk's activities was so egregious that I'm the first person they've blocked! Please don't block me. Just elaborate on what points you think are gaslighting. Because I just posted abbreviated versions, most of them are even more damning in detail, so I'm curious as to what points you think need to be corrected.
(Btw, Bankman Fried says he donated almost as much to Republicans through dark money donations and his arrest filing confirmed it.)
Yuu're being intellectually dishonest here. Musk doesn't even see twitter that way. He claimed he was purchasing twitter to save "free speech/ democracy". So, by his own standards, what he did was an enormous deal. It's not even comaparable to the events you're trying to compare it to.
Must be another member of my Still Butthurt Over Getting Owned Fan Club.
Bankman-Fried gave over $40,000,000 (of other people’s money) to Democrats for the midterms and about $250,000 to Republican candidates that Democrats supported to make easier races.
You know that, it has been reported repeatedly, there are no millions of dollars of dark money republican donations as you imply (actually are purposely lying about). Your post is absolutely full of false information and not by accident.
Liberals have an all out attack going against Elon Musk right now because he has exposed their lies and hypocrisy. Just read Huffington Post or Yahoo Finance. It is a liberal orgasm over the decline in Tesla stock prices. When in reality it is the failed liberal policies of the Biden administration driving the entire economy down that has way more to do with declining stock prices than the actions of Elon Musk as Twitter CEO.
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They can dish it out but can’t take it. These same people were cheering when Trump got banned and the Hunter Biden story got censored.
I see Twitter the way I see Getbig. It’s Ron’s board. If he wants to ban me or anybody else it’s his call.
People said they would leave the US if Trump won the election. They didn't.
Same thing happened Musk and twitter. Bunch of people said they'd leave but haven't.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2349641-most-people-who-threatened-to-quit-twitter-for-mastodon-havent-left/
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You have a link to this?
If it's true, it explain why he was arrested the day before he was supposed to testify.
He said it post FTX collapse.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/30/ftx-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-dark-money-republicans
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He said it post FTX collapse.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/30/ftx-billionaire-sam-bankman-fried-dark-money-republicans
Well then that confirms the timing of the arrest.
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Yuu're being intellectually dishonest here. Musk doesn't even see twitter that way. He claimed he was purchasing twitter to save "free speech/ democracy". So, by his own standards, what he did was an enormous deal. It's not even comaparable to the events you're trying to compare it to.
You're approaching Elon wrong. He is a grade A asshole and you should never trust anything he says.
But he is a disrupter to the status quo and we need more of that.
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Bankman-Fried gave over $40,000,000 (of other people’s money) to Democrats for the midterms and about $250,000 to Republican candidates that Democrats supported to make easier races.
You know that, it has been reported repeatedly, there are no millions of dollars of dark money republican donations as you imply (actually are purposely lying about). Your post is absolutely full of false information and not by accident.
WARNING: LAMESTREAM MEDIA LINK!!!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/samuel-bankman-fried-accused-making-illegal-campaign-contributions-rcna61520
FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried was charged Tuesday in connection with what prosecutors said was a scheme to illegally funnel millions of dollars into politics ahead of the 2022 midterm elections, misappropriating customer funds in the process.
Bankman-Fried and unnamed co-conspirators made "tens of millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions" to both Democratic and Republican candidates and campaign committees, Damian Williams, the U.S. attorney for Southern New York, said at a news conference unveiling the eight-count criminal indictment, which included a campaign finance violation charge.
The donations, Williams said, were "disguised" to look as though they were coming from wealthy donors when, in fact, the contributions were funded by Bankman-Fried's privately held crypto hedge fund, Alameda Research, using stolen customer money.
"And all of this dirty money," Williams said, was used to "buy bipartisan influence and impact the direction of public policy in Washington."
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Sarcasm, dummy.
you implying i was defending matt, when i wasnt , was not sarcasm , dummy...
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you implying i was defending matt, when i wasnt , was not sarcasm , dummy...
That's not the post or reason for that reply. Try to keep up, cabbagebrains.
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That's not the post or reason for that reply. Try to keep up, cabbagebrains.
lying jigaboo, just like goodrum...
you(the gay black retard) :"Is sending jack-off videos to gay men without them asking for it straight behavior in your opinion?"
me:"fuck matt, hes as gay as you are...."
you (gbr):it's like it's a pattern
me: not really , the "Thunder Bay Deepthroater" has his own unique autist posting style as apposed to the same cookie cutter raging,gay,black, gibbon posting style you and your ilk poses
that was the post you dumb lying orangutan
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lying jigaboo, just like goodrum...
you(the gay black retard) :"Is sending jack-off videos to gay men without them asking for it straight behavior in your opinion?"
me:"fuck matt, hes as gay as you are...."
you (gbr):it's like it's a pattern
me: not really , the "Thunder Bay Deepthroater" has his own unique autist posting style as apposed to the same cookie cutter raging,gay,black, gibbon posting style you and your ilk poses
that was the post you dumb lying orangutan
You posted the shit right there, dum-dum. It's not even in an order where what you said would make sense. The sarcasm is in reference to you just throwing out gay whenever you want to insult somebody. What do you think "it's like a pattern" was reference to, corky? The non-pattern you posted earlier. Does it have to be spelled out for you even more slowly?
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You posted the shit right there, dum-dum. It's not even in an order where what you said would make sense. The sarcasm is in reference to you just throwing out gay whenever you want to insult somebody. What do you think "it's like a pattern" was reference to, corky? The non-pattern you posted earlier. Does it have to be spelled out for you even more slowly?
you're like the gay,black,liberal, fruit cake version of "the coach" i believe "Twister" was the correct phrase....
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The magic of that line is you could've used it for anything I posted. Or anything anyone posted. ::)
Is sending jack-off videos to gay men without them asking for it straight behavior in your opinion?
HAHAHAHAHA
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see the pattern here ?
Al Doggity: gay black man
vince goodrum: gay black man
Lurkernomore: gay black man
Strawman: gay black man
residue: gay black man
AbrahamG: gay black man
Ha Ha Ha - Hmmmm Explains a Lot
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Ok, so you answered "yes" to him being smarter than average because he founded Tesla. Would it surprise you to learn that he didn't found Tesla. He bought into it early on and then had the founders kicked out of the company and re-wrote the company history. He
Did you forget to finish?
Even if he didn’t found Tesla, he’s certainly smarter than the average person. You’re a reasonably intelligent person. Do you think he’s average intelligence?
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Musk appears to be following the business model of Troth Senchal
Specifically not paying vendors, posting a bunch of nonsense conspiracy theories and claiming to be all for free speech and then banning people whenever they say or do something that he doesn't like.
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Musk appears to be following the business model of Troth Senchal
Specifically not paying vendors, posting a bunch of nonsense conspiracy theories and claiming to be all for free speech and then banning people whenever they say or do something that he doesn't like.
Damn Maybe after all He is A Liberal Leftist Then !! :o
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Damn Maybe after all He is A Liberal Leftist Then !! :o
Not likely, He loves Putin and was recently spotted at the World Cup with Jared Kushner
I wonder how soon before Musk will be issuing his NFT with his head photoshopped onto photos he took off the internet
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The pattern is that anyone whose posts you don't agree with you call a gay black man?
Obviously he has a submissive fantasy about gay black men.
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I like Elon. Politics aside, there are many things he says and viewpoints that I agree on with him. I enjoy his interviews. He is very smart and can articulate his stances, views and ideas very well.
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Yes, I sent a dick picture to Primemucle. He claims to have not seen it. This was a while ago now.
Al Doggity 🐶 is afraid of a 99.97% survivable virus. ;D
No, hospitals were never overwhelmed anywhere.
Some hospitals got three additional patients per week, as opposed to one. Or none.
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Yes, I sent a dick picture to Primemucle. He claims to have not seen it. This was a while ago now.
Al Doggity 🐶 is afraid of a 99.97% survivable virus. ;D
No, hospitals were never overwhelmed anywhere.
Some hospitals got three additional patients per week, as opposed to one. Or none.
Matt what do you think is worse, sending a geriatric an unsolicited (this is assuming he has never asked for one in the past) video of yourself furiously masturbating or buying into the nonstop media onslaught of a pandemic that shut down the worlds economy?
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Matt what do you think is worse, sending a geriatric gay male an unsolicited (this is assuming he has never asked for one in the past) video of yourself furiously masturbating or buying into the nonstop media onslaught of a pandemic that shut down the worlds economy?
Fixed, lol.
That little detail matters.
Primemuscle has previously said that I'm too young for him, but I think he's just saying that to not be associated with the social stigma of such an age gap.
Prime didn't care about me sending him some shots of my cock, and a JO video.
Al Doggity 🐶, to the contrary, supported an agenda that destroyed the global economy.
I'd say that is SLIGHTLY worse.
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Fixed, lol.
That little detail matters.
Primemuscle has previously said that I'm too young for him, but I think he's just saying that to not be associated with the social stigma of such an age gap.
Prime didn't care about me sending him some shots of my cock, and a JO video.
Al Doggity 🐶, to the contrary, supported an agenda that destroyed the global economy.
I'd say that is SLIGHTLY worse.
My point is what if Al got sucked into the propaganda? Alot of people did, that dosen't make them bad. They were doing what they were lead to believe was the right action for society.
How long should we hold this against people?
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My point is what if Al got sucked into the propaganda? Alot of people did, that dosen't make them bad. They were doing what they were lead to believe was the right action for society.
How long should we hold this against people?
I'd be fine letting go as long as Al Doggity 🐶 doesn't support another freedom-destroying hyped crisis.
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If Al Dog is gay and black, I guess that explains a lot...
Not many red-blooded "men" support libtardism, govt control and lockdowns, you know "submissive cuck" behavior...
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If Al Dog is gay and black, I guess that explains a lot...
Not many red-blooded "men" support libtardism, govt control and lockdowns, you know "submissive cuck" behavior...
He definitely is
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You're approaching Elon wrong. He is a grade A asshole and you should never trust anything he says.
But he is a disrupter to the status quo and we need more of that.
X2. I recall some leaked messages/info of exchanges between him and some other billionaire friends in his age rage that he's regularly in touch with regarding various business ideas. The way they do decision making is like a bunch of teenagers. I can't hate on the guy much, as he's achieved so much in terms of success but just looking at those leaks, I couldn't believe the guy and his buddies operate that way. Big difference to what I expected them to conduct themselves like since they're geeks that got rich. I thought I'd be reading bullshit nerd breakdowns about numbers/tech type shit like I used to see on IRC Chat Networks and coding channels as it was all geek type users. Instead it's basically not much different to the shitposting on forums we all experience.
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X2. I recall some leaked messages/info of exchanges between him and some other billionaire friends in his age rage that he's regularly in touch with regarding various business ideas. The way they do decision making is like a bunch of teenagers. I can't hate on the guy much, as he's achieved so much in terms of success but just looking at those leaks, I couldn't believe the guy and his buddies operate that way. Big difference to what I expected them to conduct themselves like since they're geeks that got rich. I thought I'd be reading bullshit nerd breakdowns about numbers/tech type shit like I used to see on IRC Chat Networks and coding channels as it was all geek type users. Instead it's basically not much different to the shitposting on forums we all experience.
he is great at capitalizing on ideas. Driven and stubborn in driving them through. Other than that he's just your autistic nerd, but the higher end IQ one.
I found it funny he asked his billionaire friends for a couple of billions like it was a couple of bux and it was the same for them. His pitch was really short and they seem to trust him just from his status and name. Maybe not so much from now on if twitter fails which it seems likely, but who knows maybe he was on to someething...
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Fixed, lol.
That little detail matters.
Primemuscle has previously said that I'm too young for him, but I think he's just saying that to not be associated with the social stigma of such an age gap.
Prime didn't care about me sending him some shots of my cock, and a JO video.
Al Doggity 🐶, to the contrary, supported an agenda that destroyed the global economy.
I'd say that is SLIGHTLY worse.
I thought he was offended by the video and would not confirm the 6.45 inches?
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Wow a decent thread for talking about the current events involving Musk and matt has to queer it up by arguing over covid for the umpteenth time. Who gives a shit at this point, everyone has their mind made up and nobody is gonna have their opinion changed
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MUSK AND MATT
MATTS MUSK
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Wow a decent thread for talking about the current events involving Musk and matt has to queer it up by arguing over covid for the umpteenth time. Who gives a shit at this point, everyone has their mind made up and nobody is gonna have their opinion changed
Hmmmm I might if I see / hear / read enough Facts & Truth
Likely others will also.
After the horrendous happenings over that time period & possible Crimes against Humanity
I'd say we all should Give a Shit about it.
As it may well happen again .
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Wow a decent thread for talking about the current events involving Musk and matt has to queer it up by arguing over covid for the umpteenth time. Who gives a shit at this point, everyone has their mind made up and nobody is gonna have their opinion changed
The only time I ever encounter people still talking about covid is on getbig , its kind of surreal, like its 2020
There's plenty else to worry about now, covid is kinda boring at this point truth be told
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The only time I ever encounter people still talking about covid is on getbig , its kind of surreal, like its 2020
There's plenty else to worry about now, covid is kinda boring at this point truth be told
Really - I take it you don't get out of your mums basement very often.
🤣👍🏻
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My point is what if Al got sucked into the propaganda? Alot of people did, that dosen't make them bad. They were doing what they were lead to believe was the right action for society.
How long should we hold this against people?
Until they admit they got worked and apologize to those of us who were right all along.
As I’ve said, the scam is in the testing. People with compromised immune systems are more likely to come up positive. After that, regardless of how they die it’s labeled as Corona..
It was the exact same thing with aids back in the 80s. We were also told that it was going to explode into the general population. Meanwhile, 35 years later Ron Jeremy is still alive.
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Musk clearly has a superior intellect, likely at least high 130s+ as he bypasses the smart-but-conventional thinking of 120s types.
But he is scattered and unfocused and has built up some hefty hubris: he simply thought it would be cool to buy his favourite plaything and show everyone his genius again as he truly believes it himself, and yeah some legitimate gripes about freedom of speech for sure,worthy intentions on that front no doubt
So he plays with the idea, and all his lackeys egg him on him saying you're the best Elon (as per the txts) and now he is stuck with it at a huge premium and debt galore
If he can extricate himself out of this mess without too much more damage to his fortune and reputation it may well be his own personal dunkirk
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You can have high IQ but still have some personality flaws which can ruin things in life, like being overconfident, not seeing the big picture, the longer road/always striving for the quickest path no matter what, having no patience, short temper etc etc
Those with AD/HD can have great energy and work great on short term projects, but on longer projects they just lose their concentration, just can't make it.
Not sure what kind of autism Elon has.
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Musk clearly has a superior intellect, likely at least high 130s+ as he bypasses the smart-but-conventional thinking of 120s types.
But he is scattered and unfocused and has built up some hefty hubris: he simply thought it would be cool to buy his favourite plaything and show everyone his genius again as he truly believes it himself, and yeah some legitimate gripes about freedom of speech for sure,worthy intentions on that front no doubt
So he plays with the idea, and all his lackeys egg him on him saying you're the best Elon (as per the txts) and now he is stuck with it at a huge premium and debt galore
If he can extricate himself out of this mess without too much more damage to his fortune and reputation it may well be his own personal dunkirk
Solid analysis.
In hindsight, he would’ve been better off, starting his own social media site rather than try to convert one that was hopelessly infected by leftism.
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Solid analysis.
In hindsight, he would’ve been better off, starting his own social media site rather than try to convert one that was hopelessly infected by leftism.
Ask yourself, has he ever taken over a company and turned it around? No.
So you could deduct that this is a salvage operation funded by the same place that funds his other businesses that don't operate in the black?
Who benefits most from blurring what was going on before midterms....or I guess everyone thinks the timing is coincidental and that somebody is actually going to get in trouble?
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The government will pay billions of dollars a year for the private personal information Twitter collects on its users.
Why do you think Twitter had umpteen thousand employees in the first place? Certainly not for programming a social media site.
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Yes, I sent a dick picture to Primemucle. He claims to have not seen it. This was a while ago now.
Matt, much like me pointing out how bad your reasoning was in that previous thread makes you not want to "trust my stockpicks" ( ???), your sending out gay jack off videos makes me not want to revisit an argument you already conclusively lost.
If Al Dog is gay and black, I guess that explains a lot...
Not many red-blooded "men" support libtardism, govt control and lockdowns, you know "submissive cuck" behavior...
I'm not gay, but an anonymous poster with no reliable evidence or info is right in line with the rickety sources you use to support all of your other posts, so I guess it's no surprise that you'd find it convincing.
And, of course, the majority of us liberal men are straight. As another poster pointed out, seems like most of the repugs in this thread have an unhealthy obsession with black cock.
He definitely is
Ha ha the president of my butthurt fanclub finally made an appearance. This must be wishful thinking, considering how many getbiggers you regularly try to suck off.
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Matt did you enjoy making the vid for uncle prime muscle another poster said you appeared to be really enjoying yourself in the vid
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Many on the left have just traded their TDS for EDS.
They just need to hate focus on someone.
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Did you forget to finish?
Even if he didn’t found Tesla, he’s certainly smarter than the average person. You’re a reasonably intelligent person. Do you think he’s average intelligence?
Yeah, I was going to write more, but decided to cut it short.
Basically, I did buy into the Elon as Super- Genius narrative for a while, as there didn't seem to be any reason not to. I've actually started a couple threads on Tesla and Elon on here over the years and they were positive. He seemed to be a serial entrepreneur who was behind world changing companies and I didn't really question that. I knew that Tesla was always missing major deadlines, but i thought that was just par for the course for ambitious technologies.
When he was forced to buy Twitter, that kind of changed my perspective on him. The timeline of what led up to it was monumentally stupid and I was just confused about how someone who is touted as a genius could have made some of the basic mistakes he did. (I can go into what I think those mistakes were if you'd like, but I'm trying to keep this brief)
For the first time, I started looking into his background past his PR bio. The genius arc has been re-written pretty thoroughly over the years. Where at one point, it looked to me that he just hopped from successful company to successful company, the more I looked into his history, it seems that he was just lucky enough to be in a money generating industry at the right time and managed to be successful almost in spite of himself. Elon's first company took off because one of his dad's friends helped him out. He's often referred to as part of the Paypal mafia, but his failing startup was acquired by the company that became papypal. While he was there, he caused more harm than good and was only able to cash out so much because he was essentially thrown out of the company before they went public and he retained his merger shares. Tesla was founded by two other guys, he invested in the company with his paypal money,pushed the two guys out and had the official history of the company re-written. Which might seem par for the course, but it was a tactic he had already used at paypal- as part of his termination agreement there, Paypal the corporation was not allowed to officially list who founded the company so that he was able to use his association with the company to promote himself as a successful serial founder.
Tesla has this insane valuation, but it reached profitability primarily through selling regulatory credits. Which I don't have a problem with, but it does temper the idea that Tesla is this brilliantly run company. Tesla is constanly missing scheduled targets. Neuralink apprears to be a mess.
He has made a shit ton of money and even just getting one company to a high-level of success is an impressive achievement, but it's just become pretty clear to me how fabricated and intentional the Tony Stark comparisons are. He's not an accomplished engineer and probably doesn't contribute too much to the technical side of any of his companies and, honestly, maybe doesn't even understand a lot of the technicalities very well.
eta So with that said, I can't really reflexively give him the benefit of the doubt that something that seems poorly thought out is probably some galaxy-brained 4d chess move. At one point I was fully convinced he was a level of genius that is probably hard to completely grasp in day-to-day conversation. I no longer believe that.
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Here’s the bigger question, is Musk a failure if Twitter doesn’t become exponentially more valuable than when he bought it?
We can debate his leadership, genius, business acumen, etc…. If Twitter fails it doesn’t erase what he’s accomplished or what he will accomplish.
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If Al Dog is gay and black, I guess that explains a lot...
Not many red-blooded "men" support libtardism, govt control and lockdowns, you know "submissive cuck" behavior...
Oh Jeez Black & Leftist Liberal ..................
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If Twitter fails it doesn’t erase what he’s accomplished or what he will accomplish.
It actually can. Whatever happens to twitter can have a huge impact on his other companies, their stockprice and public perception.
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Oh Jeez Black & Leftist Liberal ..................
Looks like another repug obsessed with black cock. You probably post about trannies a lot, too, right?
Because you're against them?
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Looks like another repug obsessed with black cock. You probably post about trannies a lot, too, right?
Because you're against them?
Ahh Hit A Nerve Did I
Find one Post of Mine where I talk about Black dick or Trannies
Try again, your just not to bright are You.
Still That's to be expected Black & Leftist Liberal
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It actually can. Whatever happens to twitter can have a huge impact on his other companies, their stockprice and public perception.
Of course it can and will. As you said people may see through the smoke and mirrors; or they could react like they do to everything else and ignore it.
Musk was willing to risk that he could do something that would further cement his legacy. My point is he has done more than most, “failure” won’t change that. If anything it will probably propel him further and inspire him to accomplish more. And if Twitter becoming a colossal flop is a part of his obituary big deal, at least he tried to make a difference (whether people agreed with it or not).
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Ahh Hit A Nerve Did I
Find one Post of Mine where I talk about Black dick or Trannies
Try again, your just not to bright are You.
Still That's to be expected Black & Leftist Liberal
You're one of the most pathetic posters here. You don't have the brains or ability to hit any nerves.
I just checked and you were recently posting about Britney Griner being an evil tranny... probably rubbing one out as you typed.
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Of course it can and will. As you said people may see through the smoke and mirrors; or they could react like they do to everything else and ignore it.
Musk was willing to risk that he could do something that would further cement his legacy. My point is he has done more than most, “failure” won’t change that. If anything it will probably propel him further and inspire him to accomplish more. And if Twitter becoming a colossal flop is a part of his obituary big deal, at least he tried to make a difference (whether people agreed with it or not).
It's the details where we disagree. Your perspective is that Musk might fail trying to make a difference. I see someone whose unparalleled hubris forced him to take on an unnecessary debt. He didn't choose to buy twitter, he was legally forced to buy twitter after trying to back out.
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The only time I ever encounter people still talking about covid is on getbig , its kind of surreal, like its 2020
There's plenty else to worry about now, covid is kinda boring at this point truth be told
Sounds like they’re still talking about it to me:
China Covid News Live: China Covid Outbreak News Live: US concerned over new mutation - The Economic Times
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/newsblogs/daily-news-and-latest-updates-live-20-december-2022/liveblog/96356488.cms
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Ask yourself, has he ever taken over a company and turned it around? No.
So you could deduct that this is a salvage operation funded by the same place that funds his other businesses that don't operate in the black?
Who benefits most from blurring what was going on before midterms....or I guess everyone thinks the timing is coincidental and that somebody is actually going to get in trouble?
The company was priced for huge profitability going forward. They had a good year in 2021, but will this continue given the current economic climate? The recent price action of the stock says “no.”
My take is that the overwhelming majority of people don’t really give a shit whether there’s a battery or an internal combustion engine getting their car from point A to B. It’s essentially a transportation appliance. And even if electric cars do become more prevalent in the future can’t Toyota, GM etc. transfer over? I don’t see why Tesla should dominate the way Apple dominates iPhones.
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It's the details where we disagree. Your perspective is that Musk might fail trying to make a difference. I see someone whose unparalleled hubris forced him to take on an unnecessary debt. He didn't choose to buy twitter, he was legally forced to buy twitter after trying to back out.
You’re 100% correct. I know he didn’t want to buy Twitter but was forced to honor his contract. His ego definitely got the best of him. Every decision he’s made since has been odd, even more so as he’s under public scrutiny BUT as every issue has become a political issue I think most people can’t look at his actions objectively. The right is seeing Musk as a hero, the left is seeing him as a tyrant. Undoubtedly he’s somewhere in between.
Everyone should be appalled that there was government interference with releasing information that would influence election results, but somehow that’s being glossed over because Musk is restricting free speech or allowing racist hate speech…..
His decision to sell off items from the office is odd, even for him. Undoubtedly it’s a publicity stunt but some see it as a liquidation move. Charging $9 a month for verification and just jumping into the change with zero transition was also a strange move. But it depends on how you interpret the decision; was it a rush decision with no thought behind it or was it a power play to let people know he’s in charge and this system is going to follow his rules; or was it combination of both of these?
My point is this is all viewed from whatever prism you “see” it from.
Musk was “forced” to buy this company and now he’s trying to act like what he’s doing was the plan all along. Just like stepping down as CEO, now he has an out if this venture fails because he can say he didn’t have enough time in charge to correct what was wrong.
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Tesla Electric Car Competitors including the Tesla of China (NIO). It’s clearly a failing industry being propped up by special interests:
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I remember when that idiot coach joe Marino was claiming musk was paying for Twitter in cash he also claimed in another thread musk is worth 400 billion dollars
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Tesla Electric Car Competitors including the Tesla of China (NIO). It’s clearly a failing industry being propped up by special interests:
isn't pretty much all industries going to shit now with raised interest on loans?
guess car industry is extra sensitive to interest changes due to being high priced and for most people non-essential. So the first thing people cut back on in a hard recession.
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isn't pretty much all industries going to shit now with raised interest on loans?
guess car industry is extra sensitive to interest changes due to being high priced and for most people non-essential. So the first thing people cut back on in a hard recession.
Primarily the ones that are hopelessly unprofitable and were depending on cheap funding to keep them afloat.
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The company was priced for huge profitability going forward. They had a good year in 2021, but will this continue given the current economic climate? The recent price action of the stock says “no.”
My take is that the overwhelming majority of people don’t really give a shit whether there’s a battery or an internal combustion engine getting their car from point A to B. It’s essentially a transportation appliance. And even if electric cars do become more prevalent in the future can’t Toyota, GM etc. transfer over? I don’t see why Tesla should dominate the way Apple dominates iPhones.
Apple had first mover advantage and early on they made a superior product. Now that computing power and storage are even their business plan to sell more phones is slowing them down with "updates" to force buying a new phone. It's not a good model.
Tesla did the heavy lifting in R&D while the legacy auto companies sat back and took notes. Musk knew TSLA had a shelf life. Turns out it is very profitable to sell people's info to corps and govs so that is where he is headed for now. The only dem dumb and rich enough to buy it from him is Bloomberg.
In sending 6 people to space, boring tunnels, making electric cars, satellite internet etc have one thing in common - all the $$$ for the founder is upfront in the development and buzz not the end business model.
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You're one of the most pathetic posters here. You don't have the brains or ability to hit any nerves.
I just checked and you were recently posting about Britney Griner being an evil tranny... probably rubbing one out as you typed.
Not nearly as pathetic & useless as you 😊
For a Black Leftist Liberal you have a active imagination-
That thing Griner should've been left to rot in a Russian cell with the American national anthem playing continuously
Could've guess you'd be along to White Knight for it.
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Hmmmm I might if I see / hear / read enough Facts & Truth
Likely others will also.
After the horrendous happenings over that time period & possible Crimes against Humanity
I'd say we all should Give a Shit about it.
As it may well happen again .
the only possible "crime against humanity" is your posting. Keep the thread on topic please
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Tesla did the heavy lifting in R&D while the legacy auto companies sat back and took notes. Musk knew TSLA had a shelf life. Turns out it is very profitable to sell people's info to corps and govs so that is where he is headed for now. The only dem dumb and rich enough to buy it from him is Bloomberg.
'selling people's info to corps' is just targeted advertising, nothing unique about twitter in that regard. Selling people's info to governments is more interesting - do you have a source on this?
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'selling people's info to corps' is just targeted advertising, nothing unique about twitter in that regard. Selling people's info to governments is more interesting - do you have a source on this?
It’s a part of the Twitter files, the 8 release. Idk that the were selling information with FBI as opposed to sharing it.
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what if Al got sucked into the propaganda? Alot of people did, that dosen't make them bad. They were doing what they were lead to believe was the right action for society.
Al is a reprobate.
matt has to queer it up by arguing over covid for the umpteenth time. Who gives a shit at this point
The only time I ever encounter people still talking about covid is on getbig , its kind of surreal, like its 2020
There's plenty else to worry about now, covid is kinda boring at this point truth be told
^ this is why a genocide can b carried out in broad daylight while any notion of such a thing falls by the wayside
notice that the reprobate mind is blind and will work directly against its own interests with the sincere belief that doing so is correct.
a reprobate mind has no concept of the truth, nor can it.. for it has been seared, cauterized by the Creator.
when a human being becomes reprobate.. when that line in the sand is crossed - their soul is given over... thrust forward into sin (the desired state of man) and locked into damnation for eternity.
every man will have to choose between this world and God
if u r still capable of logic, can detect a genuine conscience within your consciousness and understand that there will b nothing of value inside of the technological hellscape coming to fruition before your eyes... u may not yet b reprobate:
satan and his clown world want every human being marred, dead and damned to hell before they can accept Christ and attain salvation - mans only hope.
humanity is fast approaching (if not past) the point of no return.. and time is growing ever faster.
non reprobates might wanna get with the program asap.
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Zillotch = best poster on getbig
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'selling people's info to corps' is just targeted advertising, nothing unique about twitter in that regard. Selling people's info to governments is more interesting - do you have a source on this?
I don't think you grasp the depth of all this.
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Elon will never be broke.
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Doubtful Elon will go broke. His fu money has fu money
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Elons interest is generating interest
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Title is (partly) an exaggeration, but Twitter has been a categorical mess for the last few days.
Musk is trying to raise more investor funding at the inflated price he paid for the company. Revenue and ad serve pages have plummeted, not only faster than anyone predicted, but at a pace that did not even seem possible a few months ago.
Until recently, I was 40/60 on whether he could shock everyone and turn it around, but I read that he's banning links to other social media sites. I'm sure this will be reversed soon, after it drives twitter a little bit further into the ground, but to me, this was the clearest sign that he just doesn't understand social media enough to actually make it profitable. Being able to promote accounts on other platforms is a basic, vital feature .
We can throw the idea that he's sly like a fox out the window. He's cashed in $40bn in Tesla stock as the stock plummets and major investors call for him to step down as ceo.
Not really no.
Without the "hate speech" police, Twitter is going to grow.
85% of world population are religious, hence have conservative values. No woke shit, no libertarian lifestyles, and aware how socialist politicies ruin life standarts.
Twitter is going to GROW.
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Not really no.
Without the "hate speech" police, Twitter is going to grow.
85% of world population are religious, hence have conservative values. No woke shit, no libertarian lifestyles, and aware how socialist politicies ruin life standarts.
Twitter is going to GROW.
Twitter has always been a money pit. Perhaps it turns around under Musk but I doubt it. It’s basically a shit product.
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Not really no.
Without the "hate speech" police, Twitter is going to grow.
85% of world population are religious, hence have conservative values. No woke shit, no libertarian lifestyles, and aware how socialist politicies ruin life standarts.
Twitter is going to GROW.
If that's the case, why havent any of the other "conservative" twitter clones been a success? Parler, Gab, Truth Social - none have a fraction of the users Twitter had before musk
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Twitter has always been a money pit. Perhaps it turns around under Musk but I doubt it. It’s basically a shit product.
Exactly. Musk paid $44,000,000,000 to be the main character on the Internet. Alas a fool and his money are soon parted
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Elon will never be broke.
This.
I'm sure he's got billions stashed in a Cayman Islands bank.
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Exactly. Musk paid $44,000,000,000 to be the main character on the Internet. Alas a fool and his money are soon parted
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/explained-how-elon-musk-got-44-billion-to-buy-twitter-11525831.html
In the end, the South African-born billionaire will personally cough up a little more than $27 billion in cash in the transaction.
The total sum of the deal also includes $5.2 billion from investment groups and other large funds, including from Larry Ellison, the co-founder of software company Oracle, who wrote a $1 billion check as part of the arrangement.
Qatar Holding, which is controlled by Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund, the Qatar Investment Authority, has also tossed capital into the pot.
And Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia transferred to Musk the nearly 35 million shares he already owned.
In exchange for their investments, the contributors will become Twitter shareholders.
The rest of the money — about $13 billion worth — is backed by bank loans, including from Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, Japanese banks Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group and Mizuho, Barclays and the French banks Societe Generale and BNP Paribas.
According to documents filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission, Morgan Stanley’s contribution alone is about $3.5 billion.
These loans are guaranteed by Twitter, and it is the company, not Musk himself, which will assume the financial responsibility to pay them back.
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It's the details where we disagree. Your perspective is that Musk might fail trying to make a difference. I see someone whose unparalleled hubris forced him to take on an unnecessary debt. He didn't choose to buy twitter, he was legally forced to buy twitter after trying to back out.
I didn’t think he was legally forced, but was going to have to pay a billion dollar break up fee. I’m not positive of that, and the fact he did end up buying somewhat proves he was forced, I’m just not sure why he’d put himself in that position. What was the contingencies of the break up fee?
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Elon will never go broke
His money will always generate more money
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Twitter, and by extension, Musk himself may be OK.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/plane-engines-fire-how-musk-averted-3-billion-twitter-crash
Apparently Twitter was hemorrhaging money before Musk bought it. It is now profitable.
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Exactly. Musk paid $44,000,000,000 to be the main character on the Internet. Alas a fool and his money are soon parted
Twitter originally allowed posts of I believe 150 characters or less. So, users were continually in a position of having to edit down without losing the meaning of the post or having to string together multiple posts. Apologists said it made posters more concise but Twitter ended up increasing the number allowed so that was bullshit.
They also didn’t allow editing after you post. I haven’t been on it for awhile so this might have changed.
I remember Dorsey telling users they would get an editing function if they did something. I forgot what.
Fuck you, Jack. I’m the customer. I just won’t use your shitty product.
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Twitter originally allowed posts of I believe 150 characters or less. So, users were continually in a position of having to edit down without losing the meaning of the post or having to string together multiple posts. Apologists said it made posters more concise but Twitter ended up increasing the number allowed so that was bullshit.
They also didn’t allow editing after you post. I haven’t been on it for awhile so this might have changed.
I remember Dorsey telling users they would get an editing function if they did something. I forgot what.
Fuck you, Jack. I’m the customer. I just won’t use your shitty product.
On social media, the user is the product they just don't know it.
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Twitter, and by extension, Musk himself may be OK.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/plane-engines-fire-how-musk-averted-3-billion-twitter-crash
Apparently Twitter was hemorrhaging money before Musk bought it. It is now profitable.
What has made it profitable ?
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What has made it profitable ?
Reducing expenses, i.e. payroll deadweight.
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twitter was never meant to be profitable, its just a control tool for government...
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It’s bad for him. He’ll still be rich but he’s going to take a beating. He looks like he bought Twitter to be able to rant and troll people.
He was already doing this before he took over the Twitter reins.
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https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/explained-how-elon-musk-got-44-billion-to-buy-twitter-11525831.html
In the end, the South African-born billionaire will personally cough up a little more than $27 billion in cash in the transaction.
The total sum of the deal also includes $5.2 billion from investment groups and other large funds, including from Larry Ellison, the co-founder of software company Oracle, who wrote a $1 billion check as part of the arrangement.
Qatar Holding, which is controlled by Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund, the Qatar Investment Authority, has also tossed capital into the pot.
And Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia transferred to Musk the nearly 35 million shares he already owned.
In exchange for their investments, the contributors will become Twitter shareholders.
The rest of the money — about $13 billion worth — is backed by bank loans, including from Morgan Stanley, Bank of America, Japanese banks Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group and Mizuho, Barclays and the French banks Societe Generale and BNP Paribas.
According to documents filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission, Morgan Stanley’s contribution alone is about $3.5 billion.
These loans are guaranteed by Twitter, and it is the company, not Musk himself, which will assume the financial responsibility to pay them back.
Yes, thank you for the corroborating article 8)
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What's clear from the Twitter files is that the company existed solely for as an instrument for the intelligence communities to obfuscate facts, manufacture a narrative and consent in the populace and to identify dissidents. That many spooks on the board of directors and in high ranking positions was deliberate. There's no way twitter was able to sustain itself losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year without being subsidized by the IC's black budget.
Smart people already knew this but if it helps wake up the normies and increase critical mass then that's a good thing.
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What's clear from the Twitter files is that the company existed solely for as an instrument for the intelligence communities to obfuscate facts, manufacture a narrative and consent in the populace and to identify dissidents. That many spooks on the board of directors and in high ranking positions was deliberate. There's no way twitter was able to sustain itself losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year without being subsidized by the IC's black budget.
Smart people already knew this but if it helps wake up the normies and increase critical mass then that's a good thing.
The trouble is, is batch of emails released should be the headline for every news outlet.
Only seeing it on conservative sites, or substack.
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The trouble is, is batch of emails released should be the headline for every news outlet.
Only seeing it on conservative sites, or substack.
MSM is Totally Controlled- Fuck wasting time with that Propaganda Crap.
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I didn’t think he was legally forced, but was going to have to pay a billion dollar break up fee. I’m not positive of that, and the fact he did end up buying somewhat proves he was forced, I’m just not sure why he’d put himself in that position. What was the contingencies of the break up fee?
They were never made fully public, but most of the time a breakup fee is the result of regulatory hurdles, inability to secure financing or fraud on one party's part. Musk seemed to be trying to float the idea of fraud with the whole "bots" narrative, but as the chancery court date got closer, more leaks started coming out and it was revealed that Musk had multiple opportunities to look into all of his objections and had declined them all. Because discussions were so far along, there was such a long paper trail and Musk's actions likely had an impact on twitter's stock price , people were speculating that he would not only lose but be on the hook for a few billion in damages. (I actually think he might have been buying time, expecting a few years long trial, waiting for tesla stock to recover and it not be such a big hit to his personal wealth, but the trial was going to this business court in delaware where even complex cases are usually wrapped up in a week.)
What has made it profitable ?
That article doesn't actually say twitter is now profitable, just that it's debt obligations have changed.
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Social Media lol what a bunch of fools who engage in this stupidity.
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Social Media lol what a bunch of fools who engage in this stupidity.
You have 8000+ posts here.....
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You have 8000+ posts here.....
This place is considered social media ???
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TSLA stock down 27% MOM...it won't recover... momentum.
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This place is considered social media ???
This place is considered antisocial media ;D
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This place is considered antisocial media ;D
That's the truth. It's a very refreshing place to be.
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What's clear from the Twitter files is that the company existed solely for as an instrument for the intelligence communities to obfuscate facts, manufacture a narrative and consent in the populace and to identify dissidents. That many spooks on the board of directors and in high ranking positions was deliberate. There's no way twitter was able to sustain itself losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year without being subsidized by the IC's black budget.
Smart people already knew this but if it helps wake up the normies and increase critical mass then that's a good thing.
The Leviathan lost an appendage. Govt/State power working with private industry to enforce policy is.....Facism/Corporatism.
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Getbigs biggest asshole and low iq moron coach joe Marino claimed just a few weeks ago musk was worth 400 billion
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Tesla getting crushed first trading day of 2023:
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This place is considered social media ???
It’s a type of social media.
You have an account; that is user name and password protected, can post pictures, videos and updates…. Etc.
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This place is considered antisocial media ;D
Lmao. Yeah that’s pretty accurate. Lots of social degenerates interested in the sport of rubbing baby oil all over their body and posing in front of large crowd of men.
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What's clear from the Twitter files is that the company existed solely for as an instrument for the intelligence communities to obfuscate facts, manufacture a narrative and consent in the populace and to identify dissidents. That many spooks on the board of directors and in high ranking positions was deliberate. There's no way twitter was able to sustain itself losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year without being subsidized by the IC's black budget.
Smart people already knew this but if it helps wake up the normies and increase critical mass then that's a good thing.
twitter was never meant to be profitable, its just a control tool for government...
Pretty much what just posted, but that's okay, I will let you be my sidekick....
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Twitter will be fine and eventually very profitable. It will eventually become the "everything" app. It will take time. Elon will still be very wealthy.
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Twitter will be fine and eventually very profitable. It will eventually become the "everything" app. It will take time. Elon will still be very wealthy.
where do you see the revenue coming from? Advertisers are pulling back bigly and the $8/monthly subscription isn't gonna generate much
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where do you see the revenue coming from? Advertisers are pulling back bigly and the $8/monthly subscription isn't gonna generate much
Today they’re pulling back. They will come back around unless a new platform is invented.
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Autistic people like Musk are problem solvers. In social media and MSM it's alot of politics, social games etc. not something abstract to be solved. It's a bad idea to get involved in this crap. Should stick with the hard sciences. I think he learned a hard lesson.
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Today they’re pulling back. They will come back around unless a new platform is invented.
Maybe. Even still, with all that advertising money of years past they still struggled to become profitable. From the WSJ:
It hasn’t booked an annual profit since 2019, and posted a loss in eight years of the past decade. The company’s net loss narrowed in 2021, to $221.4 million from $1.14 billion the previous year.
Twitter has struggled to attract new users and increase revenue, which came in at about $5.1 billion last year. In its last quarterly filing as a public company, for the period ended June 30, revenue was $1.18 billion, down slightly year-over-year.
Nearly 90% of its revenue last year came from advertising, and it traditionally has been the company’s main source of revenue. In 2021, Twitter took in $4.51 billion from advertisers, and $572 million from licensing data and other services
Sure, you can say that Musk is slashing operating expenses vis a vis the massive layoffs but he faces a steep challenge. Frankly, I think this will prove to be his undoing.
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Maybe. Even still, with all that advertising money of years past they still struggled to become profitable. From the WSJ:
Sure, you can say that Musk is slashing operating expenses vis a vis the massive layoffs but he faces a steep challenge. Frankly, I think this will prove to be his undoing.
1. Advertisers are fickle, they are going to spend the money somewhere, because they have to keep their budgets. If Twitter isn’t going to generate revenue for them then they won’t spend money on the platform. But every company has a “social media team” that handles their Twitter and Meta platforms.
2. This could be Musks undoing, it also may not be. I listened to people here say what a bad investment Tesla was 5 years ago and that was going to be his undoing…. it was not. We are all merely speculating and if we really knew anything we’d be Like Gib making money off bitcoin.
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1. Advertisers are fickle, they are going to spend the money somewhere, because they have to keep their budgets. If Twitter isn’t going to generate revenue for them then they won’t spend money on the platform. But every company has a “social media team” that handles their Twitter and Meta platforms.
2. This could be Musks undoing, it also may not be. I listened to people here say what a bad investment Tesla was 5 years ago and that was going to be his undoing…. it was not. We are all merely speculating and if we really knew anything we’d be Like Gib making money off bitcoin.
I think this may be the most appropriate approach with Musk: he is so mercurial and brilliant and full of sh** all at the same time that to definitively state one way or the other on his downfall or otherwise is a tricky proposition
Best to just watch it all unfold with a 'never a dull moment' mindset (assuming you arent leveraged up in one of his companies of course, which makes the ride a more perilous journey)
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Twitter will be fine and eventually very profitable. It will eventually become the "everything" app. It will take time. Elon will still be very wealthy.
There is a reason that the only examples Musk uses of superapps only operate in China, despite the success Tik Tok/Douyin has seen adapting to other parts of the world. Isn't it interesting that Dorsey never significantly integrated CashApp into twitter, despite founding both and being the CEO of both at the same time during some points? With the way Musk's other companies are run and the missteps he's made with the twitter takeover, there is a 0% chance of him maneuvering the regulatory hurdles to create a superapp comparable to wechat.
It's also a private company with billions of dollars of yearly debt. Time is not a luxury that Elon has when it comes to rebuilding twitter.
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Payment apps haven’t exactly been killing either lately:
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Title is (partly) an exaggeration, but Twitter has been a categorical mess for the last few days.
Musk is trying to raise more investor funding at the inflated price he paid for the company. Revenue and ad serve pages have plummeted, not only faster than anyone predicted, but at a pace that did not even seem possible a few months ago.
Until recently, I was 40/60 on whether he could shock everyone and turn it around, but I read that he's banning links to other social media sites. I'm sure this will be reversed soon, after it drives twitter a little bit further into the ground, but to me, this was the clearest sign that he just doesn't understand social media enough to actually make it profitable. Being able to promote accounts on other platforms is a basic, vital feature .
We can throw the idea that he's sly like a fox out the window. He's cashed in $40bn in Tesla stock as the stock plummets and major investors call for him to step down as ceo.
You also said hospitals were "overwhelmed" during the pandemic, and that never happened anywhere. Hospitals were empty across North America. In fact, 16,000 people in Canada died from having cancer screenings and other appointments cancelled in order to make room for a flood of Covid patients, when it never happened.
So why would we take you seriously now, Al Doggity? 🐶
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You also said hospitals were "overwhelmed" during the pandemic, and that never happened anywhere. Hospitals were empty across North America. In fact, 16,000 people in Canada died from having cancer screenings and other appointments cancelled in order to make room for a flood of Covid patients, when it never happened.
So why would we take you seriously now, Al Doggity? 🐶
Funny you say that.....I just got out of the hospital for having a blood clot in my right lung. Doctor said I was lucky to come in when I did, because I'd probably would have died in a day or two.
Anyways, I was talking to one of the young nurses taking care of me, and she said she started as a nurse when the pandemic started.
She said she had a whole wing of people from 80 to 40, die within a few days.
Seeing as my grandmother and father both died of Covid, I'm sorry that I don't see how some people scoff at this.
Hit me personally. Nurse said like 18 people in her care died within a few days....All ages.live in a dream land all you want, but the U.S. might actually got hit lightly.
I believe the piles of bodies in Wuhan China and the surrounding areas. I've had it at least twice myself. Fact is, you don't want it. All the right factors could come into place to punch your ticket.
Keep it up with your egos, boys.....
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Funny you say that.....I just got out of the hospital for having a blood clot in my right lung. Doctor said I was lucky to come in when I did, because I'd probably would have died in a day or two.
Anyways, I was talking to one of the young nurses taking care of me, and she said she started as a nurse when the pandemic started.
She said she had a whole wing of people from 80 to 40, die within a few days.
Seeing as my grandmother and father both died of Covid, I'm sorry that I don't see how some people scoff at this.
Hit me personally. Nurse said like 18 people in her care died within a few days....All ages.live in a dream land all you want, but the U.S. might actually got hit lightly.
I believe the piles of bodies in Wuhan China and the surrounding areas. I've had it at least twice myself. Fact is, you don't want it. All the right factors could come into place to punch your ticket.
Keep it up with your egos, boys.....
do you know anyone under 70 who died of covid?
Apart from elderly people dying it didnt really effect anyone.
Did you actually witness a pandemic yourself?
Did you see people dropping in the streets, ambulances flying around ferrying people to hospital.
During lockdowns it would have been obvious if there had been a pandemic, there would have only been abmulances on the road.
I didnt see any more than normal, I didnt see any funerals more than normal
I arranged a funeral for an 88 year old neighbour (not covid) and the undertakers said they werent busy at all,m I saw her at the end of the pandemic after lockdowns finished and they had only had 3 covid death funerals.
Believe your eyes not what the TV set told you.
I personally saw an empty hospital every day for six weeks during the height of the "second wave"
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Title is (partly) an exaggeration, but Twitter has been a categorical mess for the last few days.
Musk is trying to raise more investor funding at the inflated price he paid for the company. Revenue and ad serve pages have plummeted, not only faster than anyone predicted, but at a pace that did not even seem possible a few months ago.
Until recently, I was 40/60 on whether he could shock everyone and turn it around, but I read that he's banning links to other social media sites. I'm sure this will be reversed soon, after it drives twitter a little bit further into the ground, but to me, this was the clearest sign that he just doesn't understand social media enough to actually make it profitable. Being able to promote accounts on other platforms is a basic, vital feature .
We can throw the idea that he's sly like a fox out the window. He's cashed in $40bn in Tesla stock as the stock plummets and major investors call for him to step down as ceo.
Elon broke yet?
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You also said hospitals were "overwhelmed" during the pandemic, and that never happened anywhere. Hospitals were empty across North America. In fact, 16,000 people in Canada died from having cancer screenings and other appointments cancelled in order to make room for a flood of Covid patients, when it never happened.
So why would we take you seriously now, Al Doggity? 🐶
Let’s not forget this guy...
ItalianLifter claimed that coronavirus nailed his town hard, bodies were being stacked in piles at the local church.
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do you know anyone under 70 who died of covid?
Apart from elderly people dying it didnt really effect anyone.
Did you actually witness a pandemic yourself?
Did you see people dropping in the streets, ambulances flying around ferrying people to hospital.
During lockdowns it would have been obvious if there had been a pandemic, there would have only been abmulances on the road.
I didnt see any more than normal, I didnt see any funerals more than normal
I arranged a funeral for an 88 year old neighbour (not covid) and the undertakers said they werent busy at all,m I saw her at the end of the pandemic after lockdowns finished and they had only had 3 covid death funerals.
Believe your eyes not what the TV set told you.
I personally saw an empty hospital every day for six weeks during the height of the "second wave"
Pick two of your family members to die right now. Not cousins or other distant relatives. I'm talking the ones that count the most.
Pick two of them to die right now. I didn't get that choice. And yes I know of people who have died of Covid under 70.
I spoke to a nurse, she has no reason to lie. Bodies were stacked, in my region of Florida.
Maybe in bumb fuck Canada, it wasn't an issue, or maybe you didn't have any family members die from it. But I lived in the trenches.
One day your good. A few days later, you are dead.
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Funny you say that.....I just got out of the hospital for having a blood clot in my right lung. Doctor said I was lucky to come in when I did, because I'd probably would have died in a day or two.
I had no idea that happened. I'm glad you got in quickly, King. Yes, blood clots can absolutely kill a person within two days.
Out of curiosity, can you tell me a little more about that?
Specifically, what were the symptoms?
Anyways, I was talking to one of the young nurses taking care of me, and she said she started as a nurse when the pandemic started.
She said she had a whole wing of people from 80 to 40, die within a few days.
Oh really? That's weird, given that 99.9% of North Americans aged 40-49 survived this pandemic so far.
Look at the Candian stats [reference below]:
So far, 1,237 Canadians under age 40 died of it, out of 18,532,779 in that age range.
So 18,531,542 of 18,532,779 Canadians under age 40 have survived so far, after over three years of this.
That means the other 9.993% that age survived.
So no, King - there was nowhere in North America where young people died.
Where was this that supposedly young people died, King?
What hospital was this? Can you verify this nurse's claim by posting the obituaries?
Of course you can't, because it never happened.
Seeing as my grandmother and father both died of Covid, I'm sorry that I don't see how some people scoff at this.
In Canada, we spent a TRILLION dollars fighting Covid, King.
All for a virus which we had absolutely no power to do ANYTHING about, and something that any virology expert should have known there was nothing we could do about.
A TRILLION dollars. Let's pretend we saved 10,000 lives - that means we spent $100 MILLION per life that we saved.
I'm sure the USA spent roughly the same, on a per-capita basis.
Let's pretend we even saved 100,000 people. That would still be $10 million per life saved.
Do you think that's no big deal? Do you think going into more debt than in the entire history of Canada for the previous 153 years of this country was a rational expenditure to you?
Even if we saved a MILLION people, that would still be a million dollars per life we saved.
We never spend a MILLION dollars to save random people - let alone 80-year-olds, for crying out loud.
So we just spent $100 million so an 80-year-old can live to 83?
Is that rational to you?
Hey, let's just BANKRUPT North America to save a few octogenarians.
No. We don't do that. If we did, there are tens of thousands of people in North America who need organ transplants. Why not save them? Why is Covid different?
Furthermore, lockdowns saved basically nobody - and produced record breaking opioid overdoses and alcohol related emergency visits.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/johns-hopkins-university-study-covid-19-lockdowns
Hit me personally. Nurse said like 18 people in her care died within a few days....All ages.live in a dream land all you want, but the U.S. might actually got hit lightly.
I believe the piles of bodies in Wuhan China and the surrounding areas. I've had it at least twice myself. Fact is, you don't want it. All the right factors could come into place to punch your ticket.
Keep it up with your egos, boys.....
You also said you wore a mask "to help other people".
Meanwhile, your dad and grandmother still died [RIP]. Which is exactly why forcing mandates on people and violating people's freedoms was grossly unacceptable.
There is NOTHING anyone can do to stop this virus except to give extra protection to the elderly and the vulnerable. The ONLY 100% effective measure is self-isolation. Anything else is a half measure.
Covid is a flu for healthy people, let alone people non-elderly people.
I had it when it was it's strongest in the First Wave. I was sick [bedridden] for six days. I had three days of pre-symptoms, and another 11 days of sniffles.
So no, Covid is a not an issue for people who don't have severe underlying illness. Anything else is just cherry-picking. 🍒
Now I have robust natural immunity.
No, I'm not worried about Covid, and I expose myself to my friends with Covid every chance I get.
It's unfortunate your grandmother and father died of Covid, but we don't spent trillions of dollars and shut down the global economy and violate people's rights just because someone has a relative who dies.
Do you understand that feeling sorry that you had relatives who died, and accepting the massive economic destruction that pandemic measured caused are two different issues?
It's sad that you lost loved ones, but the government overreach was COMPLETELY unacceptable - and for that matter, completely illegal.
These are not the same issues.
REFERENCE [Figure 4]:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html#figure6-header
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Pick two of your family members to die right now. Not cousins or other distant relatives. I'm talking the ones that count the most.
Pick two of them to die right now. I didn't get that choice. And yes I know of people who have died of Covid under 70.
I spoke to a nurse, she has no reason to lie. Bodies were stacked, in my region of Florida.
Maybe in bumb fuck Canada, it wasn't an issue, or maybe you didn't have any family members die from it. But I lived in the trenches.
One day your good. A few days later, you are dead.
Correct, but neither does anyone else when people die
My dad died after surgery for a brain tumour, I had no choice in the matter same as you.
As for the nurse, you only have her word for it.
Again , believe your own eyes, if you hadnt been told threre was apandemic and no one was wearing masks would you have even noticed?
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I had no idea that happened. I'm glad you got in quickly, King. Yes, blood clots can absolutely kill a person within two days.
Out of curiosity, can you tell me a little more about that?
Specifically, what were the symptoms?
Oh really? That's weird, given that 99.9% of North Americans aged 40-49 survived this pandemic so far.
Look at the Candian stats [reference below]:
So far, 1,237 Canadians under age 40 died of it, out of 18,532,779 in that age range.
So 18,531,542 of 18,532,779 Canadians under age 40 have survived so far, after over three years of this.
That means the other 9.993% that age survived.
So no, King - there was nowhere in North America where young people died.
Where was this that supposedly young people died, King?
What hospital was this? Can you verify this nurse's claim by posting the obituaries?
Of course you can't, because it never happened.
In Canada, we spent a TRILLION dollars fighting Covid, King.
All for a virus which we had absolutely no power to do ANYTHING about, and something that any virology expert should have known there was nothing we could do about.
A TRILLION dollars. Let's pretend we saved 10,000 lives - that means we spent $100 MILLION per life that we saved.
I'm sure the USA spent roughly the same, on a per-capita basis.
Let's pretend we even saved 100,000 people. That would still be $10 million per life saved.
Do you think that's no big deal? Do you think going into more debt than in the entire history of Canada for the previous 153 years of this country was a rational expenditure to you?
Even if we saved a MILLION people, that would still be a million dollars per life we saved.
We never spend a MILLION dollars to save random people - let alone 80-year-olds, for crying out loud.
So we just spent $100 million so an 80-year-old can live to 83?
Is that rational to you?
Hey, let's just BANKRUPT North America to save a few octogenarians.
No. We don't do that. If we did, there are tens of thousands of people in North America who need organ transplants. Why not save them? Why is Covid different?
You also said you wore a mask "to help other people".
Meanwhile, your dad and grandmother still died [RIP]. Which is exactly why forcing mandates on people and violating people's freedoms was grossly unacceptable.
There is NOTHING anyone can do to stop this virus except to give extra protection to the elderly and the vulnerable. The ONLY 100% effective measure is self-isolation. Anything else is a half measure.
Covid is a flu for healthy people, let alone people non-elderly people.
I had it when it was it's strongest in the First Wave. I was sick [bedridden] for six days. I had three days of pre-symptoms, and another 11 days of sniffles.
So no, Covid is a not an issue for people who don't have severe underlying illness. Anything else is just cherry-picking. 🍒
Now I have robust natural immunity.
No, I'm not worried about Covid, and I expose myself to my friends with Covid every chance I get.
It's unfortunate your grandmother and father died of Covid, but we don't spent trillions of dollars and shut down the global economy and violate people's rights just because someone has a relative who dies.
Do you understand that feeling sorry that you had relatives who died, and accepting the massive economic destruction that pandemic measured caused are two different issues?
It's sad that you lost loved ones, but the government overreach was COMPLETELY unacceptable - and for that matter, completely illegal.
These are not the same issues.
REFERENCE [Figure 4]:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/current-situation.html#figure6-header
Same thing, dude. When I had it I had bodyaches all over, and all I wanted to do was sleep for two days straight.
But... .if you are 23, and have asthma, do you deserve to die from Covid? Supposedly, overweight, diabetes, old age, and any other ailments, right?
It also has to do with proper oxygen content. My father was nearly ever sick, nor went to the doctor. My whole family: sister, me, my grandmother, and my father, all caught it at the same time. It was a baby shower.
We all felt like shit a couple of days later, then we heard that my grandmother was in the hospital. She was in her mid 80's so I will give that. As for the rest of us, we suffered for the next few days.
I remember taking my temperature, and it was at 103. My father said: " let's go to the hospital together". Me, being an asshole, basically told him to man up. Well... a day or two later, I hear a yell from his bedroom. "Shaun!". I open the door and he says, call an ambulance. I immediately sprang into action, because that ain't my dad.
A week later he was dead. A part of me died too.
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Pick two of your family members to die right now. Not cousins or other distant relatives. I'm talking the ones that count the most.
Your emotional arguments don't change the fact that we spent a TRILLION dollars in Canada - and probably 10 trillion in the USA on this.
Do not think that money could have saved lives elsewhere, King? Every single person in North America in need of an organ transplant could have had one with that money.
Pick two of them to die right now. I didn't get that choice. And yes I know of people who have died of Covid under 70.
I was lucky, in that I haven't lost anyone to Covid or lockdowns or the vaccine yet. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, and it's sad you lost loved ones.
My friend's brother died of a Fentanal overdose, which he only started using again because lockdowns impacted his life situation.
Another friend lost two friends to suicide due to their businesses being closed during the pandemic. She also got vaccinated due to work and peer pressure, and lost her baby at six days old because of it.
I can take your emotional arguments and raise you just as many emotional arguments on the flip side.
That's why nobody is supporting mandates anymore - because most people know more people impacted or even killed by mandates than by the virus itself.
Only 25% of Canadians are boosted. Covid is still with us. Hospitalization numbers and deaths from Covid were higher in 2022 than during either 2020 or 2021.
Yet nobody cares anymore, because people now understand that these measures were causing more harm than good.
I spoke to a nurse, she has no reason to lie. Bodies were stacked, in my region of Florida.
That never happened.
Ask her for names. Ask her for obituaries. Ask her for proof.
Maybe you should consider verifying claims when you hear them.
Maybe in bumb fuck Canada, it wasn't an issue, or maybe you didn't have any family members die from it. But I lived in the trenches.
One day your good. A few days later, you are dead.
There were no "trenches". How old was your grandmother?
87?
You understand that people die, right King?
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a whole wing of people from 80 to 40, die within a few days.
anyone admitted to a hospital for 'covid' has a death wish
tards will tard
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anyone admitted to a hospital for 'covid' has a death wish
tards will tard
He literally wasn't getting enough oxygen for every breath he took. He probably would have died 5 days earlier, if he wouldn't have gone to the hospital.
Some of you guys really are that stupid. This wasn't the flu.
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Same thing, dude. When I had it I had bodyaches all over, and all I wanted to do was sleep for two days straight.
But... .if you are 23, and have asthma, do you deserve to die from Covid? Supposedly, overweight, diabetes, old age, and any other ailments, right?
It also has to do with proper oxygen content. My father was nearly ever sick, nor went to the doctor. My whole family: sister, me, my grandmother, and my father, all caught it at the same time. It was a baby shower.
We all felt like shit a couple of days later, then we heard that my grandmother was in the hospital. She was in her mid 80's so I will give that. As for the rest of us, we suffered for the next few days.
I remember taking my temperature, and it was at 103. My father said: " let's go to the hospital together". Me, being an asshole, basically told him to man up. Well... a day or two later, I hear a yell from his bedroom. "Shaun!". I open the door and he says, call an ambulance. I immediately sprang into action, because that ain't my dad.
A week later he was dead. A part of me died too.
Prior to your father's death, and before he got Covid, you specifically said you were being mindful of things like masking, and taking precautions.
What changed here, King?
Incidentally, your father's death was pretty rare. If he was under 70, I would be shocked.
Especially if he was under 70 without health conditions.
But it's not like those of us who opposed government overreach don't care that he died - it's that we know government overreach wasn't the answer, and caused more harm than good.
You seem to think because we are against mandates are vaccine coercion, that we don't care that your dad died.
I can speak for myself when I say that is not the case.
I suspect most of us on the anti-mandate side feel the same way.
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He literally wasn't getting enough oxygen for every breath he took. He probably would have died 5 days earlier, if he wouldn't have gone to the hospital.
Some of you guys really are that stupid. This wasn't the flu.
have u taken the shots yet?
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Prior to your father's death, and before he got Covid, you specifically said you were being mindful of things like masking, and taking precautions.
What changed here, King?
Incidentally, your father's death was pretty rare. If he was under 70, I would be shocked.
Especially if he was under 70 without health conditions.
But it's not like those of us who opposed government overreach don't care that he died - it's that we know government overreach wasn't the answer, and caused more harm than good.
You seem to think because we are against mandates are vaccine coercion, that we don't care that your dad died.
I can speak for myself when I say that is not the case.
I suspect most of us on the anti-mandate side feel the same way.
Didn't wear a mask at all, unless it was required by a certain business. Same for my family. Not counting grandma, I'm sure she wore a mask everywhere. Except when she thought she was safe with family. This was late August/early September of 2021. She may have already had her vaccinations.
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have u taken the shots yet?
No. Neither did he.
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He literally wasn't getting enough oxygen for every breath he took. He probably would have died 5 days earlier, if he wouldn't have gone to the hospital.
Some of you guys really are that stupid. This wasn't the flu.
Get used to more people dying, as I said the UK now has 3000 deaths above the national 5 year average every single week
Im thinking of getting into the funeral business myself
Have you noticed the companies that are now setting up and for 2k you can have your relatives picked up from the morgue and cremated and ashes sent to you without having a funeral.
Guranteed they will be mass ovens and all in together and you will get a bag of dust.
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Get used to more people dying, as I said the UK now has 3000 deaths above the national 5 year average every single week
Im thinking of getting into the funeral business myself
Have you noticed the companies that are now setting up and for 2k you can have your relatives picked up from the morgue and cremated and ashes sent to you without having a funeral.
Guranteed they will be mass ovens and all in together and you will get a bag of dust.
If you do get into the funeral business, contact bhank.
I'm sure his legs and hairline are ready for cremation.
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No.
very good - u r not completely unintelligent.
educate yourself
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1. Advertisers are fickle, they are going to spend the money somewhere, because they have to keep their budgets. If Twitter isn’t going to generate revenue for them then they won’t spend money on the platform. But every company has a “social media team” that handles their Twitter and Meta platforms.
2. This could be Musks undoing, it also may not be. I listened to people here say what a bad investment Tesla was 5 years ago and that was going to be his undoing…. it was not. We are all merely speculating and if we really knew anything we’d be Like Gib making money off bitcoin.
There is a good reason Tesla wasn't Musk's undoing. He has government subsidies to thank for making him one of the wealthiest men on the planet today.
However, over the years, Musk's companies — Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and SolarCity — have received billions of dollars from government loans, contracts, tax credits, and subsidies. According to a Los Angeles Times investigation, Musk's companies had received an estimated $4.9 billion in government support by 2015, and they've gotten more since.
SpaceX lands a $2.89 billion contract with NASA in April 2021
SpaceX signs a $653 million contract with the US Air Force in 2020
Tesla accepts "certain payroll benefits" from the federal government's $600 billion 2020 pandemic stimulus
In 2016, New York state put $750 million towards Musk's planned solar-panel plant in Buffalo. About $350 million of those state funds was allocated for the construction of the facility, and $400 million was given for equipment.
SolarCity receives $497.5 million in grants, in addition to tax credits, by 2015
As of 2015, Tesla had sold $517 million in environmental credits to competitors per a federal mandate. Tax credits for consumers also helped them sell more cars.
Nevada provides $1.3 billion in tax breaks and other incentives for a new Tesla "Gigafactory" in 2014
SpaceX receives $15 million from the state of Texas in 2014
The Energy Department loans Tesla $465 million in 2010
Musk is a master at talking out of both sides of his mouth. Musk has spoken out against government subsidies suggesting they should be cut from any the 2023 budget proposals. Musk said the government should "just delete" all subsidies from the $1 trillion infrastructure bill President Joe Biden recently signed into law. Biden's bill included $7.5 billion for electric vehicle charging infrastructure, which would seem to help one of Musk's companies, Tesla Motors.
* Elon Musk's companies have received billions in government subsidies over the last two decades.
* In 2021, Musk has opposed higher taxes for the rich, and said the government shouldn't control "capital."
* He recently said he opposes government subsidies. One of his companies accepted them as recently as April.
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There is a good reason Tesla wasn't Musk's undoing. He has government subsidies to thank for making him one of the wealthiest men on the planet today.
However, over the years, Musk's companies — Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and SolarCity — have received billions of dollars from government loans, contracts, tax credits, and subsidies. According to a Los Angeles Times investigation, Musk's companies had received an estimated $4.9 billion in government support by 2015, and they've gotten more since.
SpaceX lands a $2.89 billion contract with NASA in April 2021
SpaceX signs a $653 million contract with the US Air Force in 2020
Tesla accepts "certain payroll benefits" from the federal government's $600 billion 2020 pandemic stimulus
In 2016, New York state put $750 million towards Musk's planned solar-panel plant in Buffalo. About $350 million of those state funds was allocated for the construction of the facility, and $400 million was given for equipment.
SolarCity receives $497.5 million in grants, in addition to tax credits, by 2015
As of 2015, Tesla had sold $517 million in environmental credits to competitors per a federal mandate. Tax credits for consumers also helped them sell more cars.
Nevada provides $1.3 billion in tax breaks and other incentives for a new Tesla "Gigafactory" in 2014
SpaceX receives $15 million from the state of Texas in 2014
The Energy Department loans Tesla $465 million in 2010
Musk is a master at talking out of both sides of his mouth. Musk has spoken out against government subsidies suggesting they should be cut from any the 2023 budget proposals. Musk said the government should "just delete" all subsidies from the $1 trillion infrastructure bill President Joe Biden recently signed into law. Biden's bill included $7.5 billion for electric vehicle charging infrastructure, which would seem to help one of Musk's companies, Tesla Motors.
* Elon Musk's companies have received billions in government subsidies over the last two decades.
* In 2021, Musk has opposed higher taxes for the rich, and said the government shouldn't control "capital."
* He recently said he opposes government subsidies. One of his companies accepted them as recently as April.
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Musk made electric cars mainstream and then wasn’t invited to the federal governments electric car forum.
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There is a good reason Tesla wasn't Musk's undoing. He has government subsidies to thank for making him one of the wealthiest men on the planet today.
However, over the years, Musk's companies — Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and SolarCity — have received billions of dollars from government loans, contracts, tax credits, and subsidies. According to a Los Angeles Times investigation, Musk's companies had received an estimated $4.9 billion in government support by 2015, and they've gotten more since.
SpaceX lands a $2.89 billion contract with NASA in April 2021
SpaceX signs a $653 million contract with the US Air Force in 2020
Tesla accepts "certain payroll benefits" from the federal government's $600 billion 2020 pandemic stimulus
In 2016, New York state put $750 million towards Musk's planned solar-panel plant in Buffalo. About $350 million of those state funds was allocated for the construction of the facility, and $400 million was given for equipment.
SolarCity receives $497.5 million in grants, in addition to tax credits, by 2015
As of 2015, Tesla had sold $517 million in environmental credits to competitors per a federal mandate. Tax credits for consumers also helped them sell more cars.
Nevada provides $1.3 billion in tax breaks and other incentives for a new Tesla "Gigafactory" in 2014
SpaceX receives $15 million from the state of Texas in 2014
The Energy Department loans Tesla $465 million in 2010
Musk is a master at talking out of both sides of his mouth. Musk has spoken out against government subsidies suggesting they should be cut from any the 2023 budget proposals. Musk said the government should "just delete" all subsidies from the $1 trillion infrastructure bill President Joe Biden recently signed into law. Biden's bill included $7.5 billion for electric vehicle charging infrastructure, which would seem to help one of Musk's companies, Tesla Motors.
* Elon Musk's companies have received billions in government subsidies over the last two decades.
* In 2021, Musk has opposed higher taxes for the rich, and said the government shouldn't control "capital."
* He recently said he opposes government subsidies. One of his companies accepted them as recently as April.
Liberals want big government.
Why are you bitching about it?
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Liberals want big government.
Why are you bitching about it?
They never complained until he went against them. Same with Trump.
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They never complained until he went against them. Same with Trump.
They prop up big governments, not grasping the danger that such an apparatus can have if it turns against them.
But as long as Big Government shares their ideology, they are fine with it.
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They prop up big governments, not grasping the danger that such an apparatus can have if it turns against them.
But as long as Big Government shares their ideology, they are fine with it.
Yep.
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Yep.
I found this funny:
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article122706959.html
Hypocrites.
Also, this is so important - and I wish everyone understood it:
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Ghey Barry gets his caulk-cavity jammed full of Peens on the daily...
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Liberals want big government.
Why are you bitching about it?
Subsidizing losses and privatizing profits is bad business, no matter where you are on the political spectrum. Subsidizing Tesla in return for equity shares would have been fine, but handing some guy billions with no strings attached is the worst option to take.