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Title: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 16, 2023, 04:19:49 AM
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The life expectancy of men in the U.S. is nearly six years shorter than that of women, according to new research published on Monday in JAMA Internal Medicine.

At least partially as a consequence of over 1 million Covid-19 deaths, life expectancy in the U.S. has declined significantly over the past few years, falling from 78.8 years in 2019 to 77 in 2020 and 76.1 in 2022 — undoing over two decades of progress. This puts the country far behind its wealthy peers: Countries such as Japan, Korea, Portugal, the U.K., and Italy all enjoy a life expectancy of 80 years or more. Countries such as Turkey (78.6) and China (78.2) also fare better. This falloff has become a key issue for the Food and Drug Administration.

https://www.statnews.com/2023/11/13/life-expectancy-men-women/

Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 16, 2023, 04:20:41 AM
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Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 16, 2023, 04:26:23 AM
Wealthiest country in all of human history and we can’t even care for our own citizens.  The issue will not improve, either, as healthcare costs continue to soar and material conditions continue to worsen.  Disgraceful, if you ask me.

Clearly, the USA has peaked a long time ago, and now we are living in the long, slow decline before the inevitable collapse.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Spike on November 16, 2023, 04:53:05 AM
In 2021, the suicide rates were higher among adults ages 25 to 34 years (19.48 per 100,000) and 75 to 84 years (19.56 per 100,000), with the rate highest among adults ages 85 years or older (22.39 per 100,000). Younger groups have had consistently lower suicide rates than middle-aged and older adults.

https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20suicide%20rates,middle%2Daged%20and%20older%20adults.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Gym Rat on November 16, 2023, 05:05:17 AM


Jab...  /thread
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Rambone on November 16, 2023, 05:18:30 AM
The sun’s still shinin’. It ain’t ova
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 16, 2023, 05:18:56 AM
Are we assuming the gender of these death-experienced persons?  ;D
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Tapeworm on November 16, 2023, 05:22:38 AM
Just like drug abuse, morbid obesity, as a financial drain and a statistical lead weight, is a problem that solves itself.

We are not all in this together.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Gym Rat on November 16, 2023, 05:26:00 AM
Just like when lots of babies were dying "suddenly & unexpectedly after the Tetanus vax hoax.

Only the CDC says there is no connection... Can we have Oak upload a meme of baby dressed like Elvis, only 'Dead Elvis'??
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 05:30:18 AM
It’s not a lack of care that causes obesity, but a lack of discipline. From my understanding, losing weight, when you’re obese causes all health markers to improve.



https://nypost.com/2023/09/22/obesity-is-on-the-rise-in-most-states-new-cdc-data/

The information shows that in 22 states in 2022 at least 35% of adults were obese — an increase from 19 states in 2021.

The CDC noted that 10 years ago, there were no states that had an adult obesity prevalence at or above 35%.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 05:40:28 AM
OP obviously thinks the Government should more but in reality it should do less. Why is it that health care costs are so high yet every ghetto rat has devices that weren’t available even to elites a short while ago?

Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Tapeworm on November 16, 2023, 05:41:07 AM
Because the Dept. of Central Planning is omniscient, eternally benevolent, and flawlessly capable. Otherwise they wouldn't be the Department of Central Planning.

It’s not a lack of care that causes obesity, but a lack of discipline. From my understanding, losing weight, when you’re obese causes all health markers to improve.



https://nypost.com/2023/09/22/obesity-is-on-the-rise-in-most-states-new-cdc-data/

The information shows that in 22 states in 2022 at least 35% of adults were obese — an increase from 19 states in 2021.

The CDC noted that 10 years ago, there were no states that had an adult obesity prevalence at or above 35%.

Fuckin A. Looks like we're back in agreement.

Except that I'm very nice person who says they're free to lie in any bed they want to make for themselves, and I suspect you would hunt them for sport. Possibly profit due to the excellent marbling.

But basically we agree on their fate.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: pamith on November 16, 2023, 06:50:34 AM
Because of the jab, no?
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 07:02:50 AM
Because of the jab, no?

I don’t believe so. Baby boomers who grew up in the 60s, abused themselves with eating,  drinking and drugs are coming to the end of the line. I suspect this trend will reverse somewhat when those of who grew up when gyms were opening up around the country reach that age.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Rambone on November 16, 2023, 07:26:15 AM
I don’t believe so. Baby boomers who grew up in the 60s, abused themselves with eating,  drinking and drugs are coming to the end of the line. I suspect this trend will reverse somewhat when those of who grew up when gyms were opening up around the country reach that age.

That actually makes a lot of sense
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Grape Ape on November 16, 2023, 07:29:27 AM
Possibly profit due to the excellent marbling.


 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: loco on November 16, 2023, 07:42:06 AM
Wealthiest country in all of human history and we can’t even care for our own citizens.

"People in affluent societies have ready access to food all year round. The diet is typically energy-dense, high in fat and often also in sugar. There are multiple sources of nutritional advice, not all based on sound science. Obesity is the most obvious and important nutritional disease in affluent societies, with comorbidities including type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, hypertension, some cancers, gallstones, osteoarthritis, and obstructive sleep apnoea."

https://academic.oup.com/book/41095/chapter-abstract/351082720
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: joswift on November 16, 2023, 07:48:22 AM
Wealthiest country in all of human history and we can’t even care for our own citizens.  The issue will not improve, either, as healthcare costs continue to soar and material conditions continue to worsen.  Disgraceful, if you ask me.

Clearly, the USA has peaked a long time ago, and now we are living in the long, slow decline before the inevitable collapse.

wealth brings sloth and greed, that equals a fat and lazy society
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: pamith on November 16, 2023, 07:50:10 AM
I don’t believe so. Baby boomers who grew up in the 60s, abused themselves with eating,  drinking and drugs are coming to the end of the line. I suspect this trend will reverse somewhat when those of who grew up when gyms were opening up around the country reach that age.
Tbh, deep inside, every human being just wants to die, it makes sense that little by little life expectancy will drop to 65
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 07:51:30 AM
"People in affluent societies have ready access to food all year round. The diet is typically energy-dense, high in fat and often also in sugar. There are multiple sources of nutritional advice, not all based on sound science. Obesity is the most obvious and important nutritional disease in affluent societies, with comorbidities including type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, hypertension, some cancers, gallstones, osteoarthritis, and obstructive sleep apnoea."

https://academic.oup.com/book/41095/chapter-abstract/351082720

Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: G_Thang on November 16, 2023, 07:53:52 AM
artery clogging preservatives + clot-causing shots.

Notice the drop coincides with mass inoculations of the fucboi compounds. 
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 07:56:04 AM
wealth brings sloth and greed, that equals a fat and lazy society

The Libtard Reuters frames it in a way to make the fat fvxks look like victims of their own behavior:


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-obesity-poor-idUSTRE6214L820100302

Obesity hits New York's poor neighborhoods hardest

In more affluent areas like the Upper East Side, Chelsea and the West Village, obesity rates hovered around 8 percent across the study period.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: beakdoctor on November 16, 2023, 08:02:26 AM
https://www.statnews.com/2023/11/13/life-expectancy-men-women/

"This falloff has been a key focus of the food and drug administration"

No doubt it has. They're doing everything in their power to ensure a steeper falloff.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 16, 2023, 08:15:23 AM
People are just fat and lazy here.  Obese people are everywhere. People that can use to lose 20lbs are viewed as normal weight. Go to Italy or Spain. It's hard to find a fat person except for American tourists. Even Manhattan where it's a non driving culture have lean people all over the place because they walk.  Most Manhattan people are thin compared to elsewhere. 

I agree with others that it's not lacking healthcare. It's not keeping in shape.  Doctor Cooper is a pioneer of pointing out that staying in shape prevents so many medical issues.  Just look at what staying in shape can do. It can keep blood sugar under control.  Most adult diabetics get rid of the disease just by getting lean. Exercise increases HDL ratios of blood lipids which is is healthy.  Exercise lowers blood fats as in triglycerides. Lowers your blood pressure. Makes your bones stronger. Increases the strength of your heart muscle as shown in a lower resting heart rate showing it's stronger. Lowering body fat especially visceral fat can lower metabolic diseases.  Much has been written how exercise has been beneficial to brain health and mood.

No one can prevent all health issues but you have to put the odds in your favor by staying in shape.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Kwon on November 16, 2023, 10:16:11 AM
"Covid Vaccine"

/thread

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Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on November 16, 2023, 10:56:26 AM
Not surprised. Mommy syndrome, feminism, gynocentrism, family court/divorce industry and a female dictatorship will do that.

And simps signed up for all of it, ruining things for normal men. Thanks! 👍
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: GymnJuice on November 16, 2023, 12:35:45 PM
Just like drug abuse, morbid obesity, as a financial drain and a statistical lead weight, is a problem that solves itself.

We are not all in this together.

Brutal, true, righteous, and funny.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Moontrane on November 16, 2023, 02:19:16 PM
People are just fat and lazy here.  Obese people are everywhere. People that can use to lose 20lbs are viewed as normal weight. Go to Italy or Spain. It's hard to find a fat person except for American tourists. Even Manhattan where it's a non driving culture have lean people all over the place because they walk.  Most Manhattan people are thin compared to elsewhere. 

I agree with others that it's not lacking healthcare. It's not keeping in shape.  Doctor Cooper is a pioneer of pointing out that staying in shape prevents so many medical issues.  Just look at what staying in shape can do. It can keep blood sugar under control.  Most adult diabetics get rid of the disease just by getting lean. Exercise increases HDL ratios of blood lipids which is is healthy.  Exercise lowers blood fats as in triglycerides. Lowers your blood pressure. Makes your bones stronger. Increases the strength of your heart muscle as shown in a lower resting heart rate showing it's stronger. Lowering body fat especially visceral fat can lower metabolic diseases.  Much has been written how exercise has been beneficial to brain health and mood.

No one can prevent all health issues but you have to put the odds in your favor by staying in shape.

This.

Just 40% of us were overweight from 1960 to 2010.  The chubby have been with us since WWII (I'm leaving out the obesity rate).

2010 to 2020 it nearly doubled to 73%.  Throw in a novel corona virus and we see how vulnerable we've become.

I expect life expectancy to continue to drop, unless there's some kind of awakening to the harms of our sedentary lifestyles.

Lack Lalane, where are you?
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: joswift on November 16, 2023, 02:32:46 PM
This.

Just 40% of us were overweight from 1960 to 2010.  The chubby have been with us since WWII (I'm leaving out the obesity rate).

2010 to 2020 it nearly doubled to 73%.  Throw in a novel corona virus and we see how vulnerable we've become.

I expect life expectancy to continue to drop, unless there's some kind of awakening to the harms of our sedentary lifestyles.

Lack Lalane, where are you?

Third world countries are going to have a higher life expectancy in the next 20 years
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 16, 2023, 02:37:23 PM

Jab...  /thread

Why dont other countries with similar or higher vaccination rates exhibit such a trend?
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Mayday on November 16, 2023, 02:37:33 PM
I don’t believe so. Baby boomers who grew up in the 60s, abused themselves with eating,  drinking and drugs are coming to the end of the line. I suspect this trend will reverse somewhat when those of who grew up when gyms were opening up around the country reach that age.

This.

The Gen before the Boomers set the prior mortality rate and they’ve mostly moved on from the dataset.

Now we have Boomers entering the death zone 💀 where we see what trend they set for their lifestyle.

Important to note the age comes down despite a much higher quality level of care and lifestyle which means the obesity, alcohol and poor food choices overrides our medical technology.

It’ll probably end up being if you are fat, you die early and nothing can save you.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 16, 2023, 02:41:57 PM
Just like drug abuse, morbid obesity, as a financial drain and a statistical lead weight, is a problem that solves itself.

We are not all in this together.

Morbid obesity has been on the rise globally for decades with no end in sight.  How and when does it solve itself?
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: loco on November 16, 2023, 02:44:38 PM
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Yup, within developed affluent countries, the majority of the poorest and least educated will make the worst decisions regarding exercise and access to all that readily available food all year round.  They die from diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, cancer, etc., but they don't die from starvation.

The majority of the more affluent and educated individuals will make an effort to exercise and make better food choices than hamburgers and fries, pizza, fried chicken, and sugary drinks and snacks.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the norm:

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Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: BigRo on November 16, 2023, 02:46:29 PM

Jab...  /thread

My dad got three, now he is dying of cancer.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 16, 2023, 02:46:59 PM
It’s not a lack of care that causes obesity, but a lack of discipline. From my understanding, losing weight, when you’re obese causes all health markers to improve.



https://nypost.com/2023/09/22/obesity-is-on-the-rise-in-most-states-new-cdc-data/

The information shows that in 22 states in 2022 at least 35% of adults were obese — an increase from 19 states in 2021.

The CDC noted that 10 years ago, there were no states that had an adult obesity prevalence at or above 35%.

Ah yes, the global population has collectively been losing self discipline over the last 30 years.  That’s why obesity is on the rise, because billions of people just became less disciplined in a few decades, no other factors at play  :D

Do you even read the nonsense you type before clicking post?
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 16, 2023, 02:48:09 PM


American Hispanics have a longer life expectancy than American whites, despite having higher obesity rates.  How do you account for that?
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 16, 2023, 02:53:52 PM
This.

Just 40% of us were overweight from 1960 to 2010.  The chubby have been with us since WWII (I'm leaving out the obesity rate).

2010 to 2020 it nearly doubled to 73%.  Throw in a novel corona virus and we see how vulnerable we've become.

I expect life expectancy to continue to drop, unless there's some kind of awakening to the harms of our sedentary lifestyles.

Lack Lalane, where are you?

I left out the health benefits get cancelled out with the use of drugs like steroids, anti estrogens, HCG, speed, diuretics and growth hormone. I know the fans of bodybuilding drugs will disagree saying it's healthy to live the drug bodybuilding lifestyle.  Exercise isn't that complicated as most will have us think. Do cardio, lift, body weight, power, balance and skill. A typical bodybuilder can incorporate it all by just doing walking, lifting and something like a fast lift like a power clean.  Watch you total calorie count and you will put the odds in your favor regarding health. 
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: loco on November 16, 2023, 03:00:02 PM
Morbid obesity has been on the rise globally for decades with no end in sight.  How and when does it solve itself?

It's a combination of many factors:  Access to cheap ultra-processed foods, the consumption of seed oils, the adoption of the American food pyramid by many countries, advancements in technology that make it much easier to live a sedentary lifestyle, increase in tech jobs in developing countries such as China and India, etc.

The more technologically advanced we become, the more obesity and disease will increase.

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Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: joswift on November 16, 2023, 03:04:04 PM
It's a combination of many factors:  Access to cheap ultra-processed foods, the consumption of seed oils, the adoption of the American food pyramid by many countries, advancements in technology that make it much easier to live a centenary lifestyle, increase in tech jobs in developing countries such as China and India, etc.
Sedentary

look into it
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: loco on November 16, 2023, 03:05:55 PM
Sedentary

look into it

Thank you very much, joswift!  I've corrected my post.   :D
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Moontrane on November 16, 2023, 03:27:56 PM
American Hispanics have a longer life expectancy than American whites, despite having higher obesity rates.  How do you account for that?

Larger families and intergenerational family ties.  I try to emulate that, because if you interreact with the kids and grandkids, it gives one hope for the future.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Tapeworm on November 16, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
Morbid obesity has been on the rise globally for decades with no end in sight.  How and when does it solve itself?

When we stop with the socialism. I would guess that more money gets spent in the US on obesity related illnesses than any other cause of death. If some dumbass eats his way up to 300+ pounds he ought to pay his own medical bills, not expect others to subsidize his self inflicted problems under some collectivist scheme.

To your previous point, deaths over the historical baseline in different countries are strongly correlated with vaccine uptake in those countries. Higher the % who got vaccinated, the higher the excess death in that country. It doesn't mean everyone is doomed but imo the cure is more deadly than the disease.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: loco on November 16, 2023, 03:45:15 PM
Larger families and intergenerational family ties.  I try to emulate that, because if you interreact with the kids and grandkids, it gives one hope for the future.

Yup, strong relationships have long been associated with longevity.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 03:52:33 PM
American Hispanics have a longer life expectancy than American whites, despite having higher obesity rates.  How do you account for that?

TBT, I had to think about this one.

Two reasons:

1. Smoking

2. Size. Small people tend to live longer and most Mexicans are midgets.

The tight family structure mentioned before sounds right too.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 03:56:17 PM
Ah yes, the global population has collectively been losing self discipline over the last 30 years.  That’s why obesity is on the rise, because billions of people just became less disciplined in a few decades, no other factors at play  :D

Do you even read the nonsense you type before clicking post?

What are you talking about? The article doesn’t even mention the rest of the world, just the U.S.
Food availability has increased dramatically in the last 30 years. In the 1970s Walmart was a regional general store. Now it’s a Juggernaut. Do you not think you need more discipline now to stay slim than in the past?

But yeah let’s pretend it’s lack of care.😂
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Lartinos on November 16, 2023, 04:00:32 PM
Wealthiest country in all of human history and we can’t even care for our own citizens.  The issue will not improve, either, as healthcare costs continue to soar and material conditions continue to worsen.  Disgraceful, if you ask me.

Clearly, the USA has peaked a long time ago, and now we are living in the long, slow decline before the inevitable collapse.

If you’re troll account I will admit you one of the best on this website.

Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: mphgrove on November 16, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
American Hispanics have a longer life expectancy than American whites, despite having higher obesity rates.  How do you account for that?

Possibly some dietary factors, home cooking, lots of fiber. Not sure though. I agree that family structures (with less loneliness?) can play a role. Maybe less sedentary jobs and more walking, moving. Live in cities more so than in suburban areas where no one walks anywhere? Less alcohol and drugs? More religion?
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 16, 2023, 04:32:11 PM
If you’re troll account I will admit you one of the best on this website.

I’d bet he really believes it. That Socialist mentality is everywhere on the net. The worst are teachers. Apparently, it’s the most common profession among Antifa (the few who actually have jobs).
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Tapeworm on November 16, 2023, 05:14:39 PM
Just ask them if they really want to pay for heart transplants for every fat ass Red Hat good 'ol boy in Mississippi.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: GymnJuice on November 17, 2023, 04:31:33 AM
Morbid obesity has been on the rise globally for decades with no end in sight.  How and when does it solve itself?

Culture change, education, better lifestyle choices. Additional medical care will not solve this problem - no amount of pills or bariatric surgeries will fix it. Every pill and surgery has side effects. The best way to fix obesity is to fix the lifestyle that led to the obesity. 99% of the time it is from eating too much or too poorly.
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: The Scott on November 17, 2023, 07:14:17 AM
According to this study I am running out of life.  Hmmm...
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Tapeworm on November 17, 2023, 07:29:37 AM
According to this study I am running out of life.  Hmmm...

According to what I've read Heaven doesn't want you (yet) and Hell is afraid you'll take over.

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Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: The Scott on November 17, 2023, 07:02:43 PM
According to what I've read Heaven doesn't want you (yet) and Hell is afraid you'll take over.

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Well, thank you brother!   ;D
Title: Re: US Male Life Expectancy Drops To 73.1
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 18, 2023, 12:31:03 AM
Because of the jab, no?
Not yet but just wait till those stats get factored in. Now it is because there are so many fat fuckers.