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Title: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 11, 2024, 03:46:05 PM
I have tried so many things, better mattress, trying to learn how to sleep on my back, fancy chairs, mobility work and strengthening the muscles, ergonomic computer equipment, foam rolling, all without results. Then I fasted for 72 hours and boom the pain was gone for the first time in years. After I ate it came back immediately, so it's not really a solution. I am really fed up with this nagging burning sensation :-\
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 11, 2024, 03:50:32 PM
Also I noticed when I am stressed the pain immediately intensifies
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: robcguns on April 11, 2024, 03:52:31 PM
Is it gastric related and not muscle/spinal you think?
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: bhank on April 11, 2024, 03:53:45 PM
Its because you are holding fluid in your lower back and the fast dries it out leaner lighter you holding less water equals less back pain I have noticed I have more lower back pain when heavier as well
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: MAXX on April 11, 2024, 03:54:22 PM
probably want to take a MRI to know what disc is compressed and consult with a doctor what do do about it

costly yeah but if your issue is affecting you that bad then you need it
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 11, 2024, 03:56:19 PM
Its because you are holding fluid in your lower back and the fast dries it out leaner lighter you holding less water equals less back pain I have noticed I have more lower back pain when heavier as well
Its more of an upper back issue. I never had lower back pain in my life
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 11, 2024, 03:57:10 PM
Is it gastric related and not muscle/spinal you think?
some gym bro said that the fast reduced inflamation so thats why the pain was gone
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Goliathon on April 11, 2024, 03:57:37 PM
Its because you are holding fluid in your lower back and the fast dries it out leaner lighter you holding less water equals less back pain I have noticed I have more lower back pain when heavier as well

"dries it out"

ok

but yes,

make sure you're not constipated, that automatically will cause people back pain

lose some fat or muscle.

Decrease your salt intake so you're retaining less water in your body.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Goliathon on April 11, 2024, 03:59:03 PM
Its more of an upper back issue. I never had lower back pain in my life

It's probably an alignment issue. Might be something about how you're sleeping, try eating only in the mornings.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 11, 2024, 04:00:21 PM
Since it is so reactive to stress I sometimes wonder if this is a mental problem.but when i fasted 3 days i felt zero pain for the frst time in over a decade
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 11, 2024, 04:07:37 PM
It's probably an alignment issue. Might be something about how you're sleeping, try eating only in the mornings.
I find it very very difficult to fall asleep on my back, which would be best for spinal alignment. I even invedted in a huge top of the line ergonomically wise bed and matress. But when I do succeed in falling asleep on my back I get very troubling sleep paralysis which feels like demonic activity honestly. A few times I fled to the living room convinced there was demonic activity. Really not joking I think there are things. I googled this trying to.find a rational explanation and I found that back sleeping can cause breathing issues which can cause nightmares. But I am very small and useless so not a huge 200lbs+ sleep apnea suspect. In fact I wonder if sleep paralysis can actually be a real spiritual problem unlike what google says.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: IroNat on April 11, 2024, 04:22:11 PM
What do you normally eat?
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 11, 2024, 04:25:51 PM
What do you normally eat?
mostly rice, spit roasted chicken, eggs, steak, pasta
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Marty Champions on April 11, 2024, 04:31:05 PM
I never understood upperback pain even shrugging 500kg
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Rambone on April 11, 2024, 04:49:05 PM
“I broke my back. Spinal.” - Iron Mike Tyson
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: chaos on April 11, 2024, 05:41:34 PM
I have tried so many things, better mattress, trying to learn how to sleep on my back, fancy chairs, mobility work and strengthening the muscles, ergonomic computer equipment, foam rolling, all without results. Then I fasted for 72 hours and boom the pain was gone for the first time in years. After I ate it came back immediately, so it's not really a solution. I am really fed up with this nagging burning sensation :-\
Have you tried deadlifting?
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: tatoo on April 11, 2024, 05:58:31 PM
“I broke my back. Spinal.” - Iron Mike Tyson

classic lol
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Lartinos on April 11, 2024, 06:18:25 PM
It’s probably your posture getting worse when stressed. Try a posture brace to see if it helps.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: joswift on April 12, 2024, 01:43:16 AM
Its because you are holding fluid in your lower back and the fast dries it out leaner lighter you holding less water equals less back pain I have noticed I have more lower back pain when heavier as well
never fasted in your life, well, Brian hasnt anyway
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on April 12, 2024, 04:52:08 AM
Stop with this fasting end all be all nonsense. Stop. No it did not cure your back pain or whatever ailment you were going on about. There is no real fasting going on with you people that should be regarded as actual fasting. Real fasting are the people who live out in caves and deserts and badlands of Africa and they spend weeks on end fasting. Or monks and holy men who go into the mountains and temples to mediate in a state of semi  awake. All you people who intermittent fast are just waiting to eat and end up eating less because it’s later in the day and it’s hard to stuff your gullet in a short time frame. If it works for you, then great. But you’re not cracking any biological code, your not bio hacking or whatever, you’re not undergoing authpology or cell regenerate or whatever that crap claims to do, you’re just eating later in the day. Good god. I guess teenagers who sleep in till 2 pm and then eat food must be intermittent fasting too!!! I guess when you eat dinner at 6pm and then eat a late brunch at 10 am must be the reason you’re shredding fat effortlessly!!!!    I guess hospital patients who don’t eat until 9 am and had dinner the previous night at 5 pm must be fasting too!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the stupid magic claims of fasting. No stupid Thomas Delauer is not a fasting guru. Stop with the crap of waiting to drink coffee in the morning until whatever worthless cortisol is gone. Stop with the greens powder. Stop with the element crap electrolytes that do jack nothing. If all this nonsense mambo jumbo stuff worked as well as you folks claim then the world would all be healthy and all people would be walking around ripped and healthy. Good lord.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: joswift on April 12, 2024, 05:45:31 AM
Stop with this fasting end all be all nonsense. Stop. No it did not cure your back pain or whatever ailment you were going on about. There is no real fasting going on with you people that should be regarded as actual fasting. Real fasting are the people who live out in caves and deserts and badlands of Africa and they spend weeks on end fasting. Or monks and holy men who go into the mountains and temples to mediate in a state of semi  awake. All you people who intermittent fast are just waiting to eat and end up eating less because it’s later in the day and it’s hard to stuff your gullet in a short time frame. If it works for you, then great. But you’re not cracking any biological code, your not bio hacking or whatever, you’re not undergoing authpology or cell regenerate or whatever that crap claims to do, you’re just eating later in the day. Good god. I guess teenagers who sleep in till 2 pm and then eat food must be intermittent fasting too!!! I guess when you eat dinner at 6pm and then eat a late brunch at 10 am must be the reason you’re shredding fat effortlessly!!!!    I guess hospital patients who don’t eat until 9 am and had dinner the previous night at 5 pm must be fasting too!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the stupid magic claims of fasting. No stupid Thomas Delauer is not a fasting guru. Stop with the crap of waiting to drink coffee in the morning until whatever worthless cortisol is gone. Stop with the greens powder. Stop with the element crap electrolytes that do jack nothing. If all this nonsense mambo jumbo stuff worked as well as you folks claim then the world would all be healthy and all people would be walking around ripped and healthy. Good lord.
a third of the world doesnt eat breakfast

Thats intermittent fasting to some people.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: illuminati on April 12, 2024, 06:48:19 AM
Since it is so reactive to stress I sometimes wonder if this is a mental problem.but when i fasted 3 days i felt zero pain for the frst time in over a decade

There - you've got your answer & cure

STOP EATING.


HTH
 ;D
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Eric2 on April 12, 2024, 06:54:58 AM
I have tried so many things, better mattress, trying to learn how to sleep on my back, fancy chairs, mobility work and strengthening the muscles, ergonomic computer equipment, foam rolling, all without results. Then I fasted for 72 hours and boom the pain was gone for the first time in years. After I ate it came back immediately, so it's not really a solution. I am really fed up with this nagging burning sensation :-\

Some things to consider. Make sure your not consuming foods that cause inflammation.  Such as surgar of any kind. As we age especially this becomes more of an issue. It may take a day or two to flare up or in cases where early arthritis exists the inflammation can occur the following day consuming  surgar. I am in my mid 59s and experience the low back pain as well, due to arthritis.  Many years of heavy lifting and whatnot, general wear and tear.
I too find that the lighter I am the less dull and stiffness of pain present in the low back. It's definitely a killer on every day activities if left untreated. It's something I deal with every day. Lack of solid core strength weakening of the abdominal muscles over time is a culprit to this condition as well
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Rambone on April 12, 2024, 07:05:30 AM
Stop with this fasting end all be all nonsense. Stop. No it did not cure your back pain or whatever ailment you were going on about. There is no real fasting going on with you people that should be regarded as actual fasting. Real fasting are the people who live out in caves and deserts and badlands of Africa and they spend weeks on end fasting. Or monks and holy men who go into the mountains and temples to mediate in a state of semi  awake. All you people who intermittent fast are just waiting to eat and end up eating less because it’s later in the day and it’s hard to stuff your gullet in a short time frame. If it works for you, then great. But you’re not cracking any biological code, your not bio hacking or whatever, you’re not undergoing authpology or cell regenerate or whatever that crap claims to do, you’re just eating later in the day. Good god. I guess teenagers who sleep in till 2 pm and then eat food must be intermittent fasting too!!! I guess when you eat dinner at 6pm and then eat a late brunch at 10 am must be the reason you’re shredding fat effortlessly!!!!    I guess hospital patients who don’t eat until 9 am and had dinner the previous night at 5 pm must be fasting too!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the stupid magic claims of fasting. No stupid Thomas Delauer is not a fasting guru. Stop with the crap of waiting to drink coffee in the morning until whatever worthless cortisol is gone. Stop with the greens powder. Stop with the element crap electrolytes that do jack nothing. If all this nonsense mambo jumbo stuff worked as well as you folks claim then the world would all be healthy and all people would be walking around ripped and healthy. Good lord.

Well said, Gene. These online gurus change their minds every month and will blame it on the evolving science. First they said you can fast and not lose any muscle, and now they’re against fasting and say you’re better off eating protein first thing in the morning to preserve your muscle mass because that’s more important. They’re all over the place and will make money off their click bait video titles either way.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: bhank on April 12, 2024, 07:47:06 AM
never fasted in your life, well, Brian hasnt anyway

I used to starve myself for years wrestling. I showed up for nationals training camp a week before nationals at 145lbs. I made 121lbs 7 days later(I was 15 years old). That is a 16% bodyweight loss in 7 days. I have no desire to do that shit at 46 years old no thanks.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 12, 2024, 08:30:40 AM
Some things to consider. Make sure your not consuming foods that cause inflammation.  Such as surgar of any kind. As we age especially this becomes more of an issue. It may take a day or two to flare up or in cases where early arthritis exists the inflammation can occur the following day consuming  surgar. I am in my mid 59s and experience the low back pain as well, due to arthritis.  Many years of heavy lifting and whatnot, general wear and tear.
I too find that the lighter I am the less dull and stiffness of pain present in the low back. It's definitely a killer on every day activities if left untreated. It's something I deal with every day. Lack of solid core strength weakening of the abdominal muscles over time is a culprit to this condition as well

This

I’ve had sinus issues over the years. When I  avoid dairy and sugar there’s immediate improvement. I love ice cream but it’s just not worth it anymore.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: _bruce_ on April 12, 2024, 08:51:43 AM


Food builds up but also detoxifies.
It seems like your liver has problems which can result in back issues.
You could try drinking raw milk with unheated honey mixed into.
Also try taking hot baths.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: GymnJuice on April 12, 2024, 10:48:24 AM
Stop with this fasting end all be all nonsense. Stop. No it did not cure your back pain or whatever ailment you were going on about. There is no real fasting going on with you people that should be regarded as actual fasting. Real fasting are the people who live out in caves and deserts and badlands of Africa and they spend weeks on end fasting. Or monks and holy men who go into the mountains and temples to mediate in a state of semi  awake. All you people who intermittent fast are just waiting to eat and end up eating less because it’s later in the day and it’s hard to stuff your gullet in a short time frame. If it works for you, then great. But you’re not cracking any biological code, your not bio hacking or whatever, you’re not undergoing authpology or cell regenerate or whatever that crap claims to do, you’re just eating later in the day. Good god. I guess teenagers who sleep in till 2 pm and then eat food must be intermittent fasting too!!! I guess when you eat dinner at 6pm and then eat a late brunch at 10 am must be the reason you’re shredding fat effortlessly!!!!    I guess hospital patients who don’t eat until 9 am and had dinner the previous night at 5 pm must be fasting too!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the stupid magic claims of fasting. No stupid Thomas Delauer is not a fasting guru. Stop with the crap of waiting to drink coffee in the morning until whatever worthless cortisol is gone. Stop with the greens powder. Stop with the element crap electrolytes that do jack nothing. If all this nonsense mambo jumbo stuff worked as well as you folks claim then the world would all be healthy and all people would be walking around ripped and healthy. Good lord.

I think this would be a great rant/take for the Josh and Rob show.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 12, 2024, 12:41:33 PM

Food builds up but also detoxifies.
It seems like your liver has problems which can result in back issues.
You could try drinking raw milk with unheated honey mixed into.
Also try taking hot baths.
Really?
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: _bruce_ on April 12, 2024, 01:07:05 PM
Really?

These are options - try them.
Nothing to lose, something to gain.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Rambone on April 12, 2024, 02:17:16 PM
Take a warm bath and wrap a hot towel around your head. Maybe have some soup and get some rest. And if you need anything, call me, pal.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 12, 2024, 02:40:05 PM
not sure if someone have asked yet... but how do  you manage to keep the fasting for going so long ? do you avoid burning calories , take days off from work?


WooSShhhhhhhh
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: GymnJuice on April 12, 2024, 02:44:25 PM
Take a warm bath and wrap a hot towel around your head. Maybe have some soup and get some rest. And if you need anything, call me, pal.

He's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the Armenian pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Rambone on April 12, 2024, 02:45:08 PM
He's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the Armenian pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
:D :D :D

Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: a_pupil on April 12, 2024, 03:11:19 PM
Try losing a fair amount of weight. The fast might work for you because you drop some water weight.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: MAXX on April 12, 2024, 03:16:26 PM
It's probably an alignment issue. Might be something about how you're sleeping, try eating only in the mornings.
"alignment"

lol

pseudo bullshit
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: chaos on April 12, 2024, 05:41:21 PM
Stop with this fasting end all be all nonsense. Stop. No it did not cure your back pain or whatever ailment you were going on about. There is no real fasting going on with you people that should be regarded as actual fasting. Real fasting are the people who live out in caves and deserts and badlands of Africa and they spend weeks on end fasting. Or monks and holy men who go into the mountains and temples to mediate in a state of semi  awake. All you people who intermittent fast are just waiting to eat and end up eating less because it’s later in the day and it’s hard to stuff your gullet in a short time frame. If it works for you, then great. But you’re not cracking any biological code, your not bio hacking or whatever, you’re not undergoing authpology or cell regenerate or whatever that crap claims to do, you’re just eating later in the day. Good god. I guess teenagers who sleep in till 2 pm and then eat food must be intermittent fasting too!!! I guess when you eat dinner at 6pm and then eat a late brunch at 10 am must be the reason you’re shredding fat effortlessly!!!!    I guess hospital patients who don’t eat until 9 am and had dinner the previous night at 5 pm must be fasting too!!!!!!!!!! Stop with the stupid magic claims of fasting. No stupid Thomas Delauer is not a fasting guru. Stop with the crap of waiting to drink coffee in the morning until whatever worthless cortisol is gone. Stop with the greens powder. Stop with the element crap electrolytes that do jack nothing. If all this nonsense mambo jumbo stuff worked as well as you folks claim then the world would all be healthy and all people would be walking around ripped and healthy. Good lord.
Hey Gene!! How's the family?
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Tapeworm on April 12, 2024, 07:07:45 PM
I find it very very difficult to fall asleep on my back, which would be best for spinal alignment. I even invedted in a huge top of the line ergonomically wise bed and matress. But when I do succeed in falling asleep on my back I get very troubling sleep paralysis which feels like demonic activity honestly. A few times I fled to the living room convinced there was demonic activity. Really not joking I think there are things. I googled this trying to.find a rational explanation and I found that back sleeping can cause breathing issues which can cause nightmares. But I am very small and useless so not a huge 200lbs+ sleep apnea suspect. In fact I wonder if sleep paralysis can actually be a real spiritual problem unlike what google says.

This is a common problem. They sold you a haunted mattress. A friend of mine got one that made green mist. He had a hell of a time returning it. Mattress shops are always on the lookout for a sucker they can offload thejr haunted stock to. Tell 'em you know what they're trying to do and you're not going to stand for it.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: mphgrove on April 12, 2024, 10:13:59 PM
This one is simple stupid and you probably do it already. Do you put your two calves and feet up on an armchair and just lay flat on your back for 20 to 30 minutes. No pillow so you also de-compress the back of your neck. This works for me to de-compress my upper back when it is tight or strained. It also is spiritual and stress relaxing and I also think it might get your upper torso more “trained” to sleep on back at night. Blood flows backward toward back and head.

Also, a vacation back to Armenia to re-connect with relatives might help.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Royalty on April 12, 2024, 10:21:04 PM
This one is simple stupid and you probably do it already. Do you put your two calves and feet up on an armchair and just lay flat on your back for 20 to 30 minutes. No pillow so you also de-compress the back of your neck. This works for me to de-compress my upper back when it is tight or strained. It also is spiritual and stress relaxing and I also think it might get your upper torso more “trained” to sleep on back at night. Blood flows backward toward back and head.

Also, a vacation back to Armenia to re-connect with relatives might help.

Or you could write everything down in a Diary
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Rambone on April 13, 2024, 04:18:38 AM


^Gaylord
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: a_pupil on April 13, 2024, 09:33:56 AM


^Gaylord

I feel sorry for the sheep who follow this autist.

He seems to change his opinion every few months based on "new research". You're not supposed to be overthinking food to that level if you're trying to be a productive human.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Rambone on April 13, 2024, 09:36:03 AM
I feel sorry for the sheep who follow this autist.

He seems to change his opinion every few months based on "new research". You're not supposed to be overthinking food to that level if you're trying to be a productive human.

Exactly. These channels pretty much turn into MSM in terms of doing what it takes to capture eyeballs. Facebook (outed) has turned into even more shit as well. Just ads and promoted pages ran by AI that just makes up literal fake news or reports shit from 5 years ago as if it just happened.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 13, 2024, 11:27:58 AM
not sure if someone have asked yet... but how do  you manage to keep the fasting for going so long ? do you avoid burning calories , take days off from work?


WooSShhhhhhhh

will power
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Pet shop boys on April 15, 2024, 05:06:06 AM
will power

Obviously ...

But that's not the point, assuming will power is there (to reach 72 hours fasted) ... The reality is you no longer have food as energy source ... So my question remains; Do you still workout? cardio, daily chores etc ? ...



Thanks


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHh  Be YE Ke
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Krankenstein on April 15, 2024, 05:26:25 AM
probably want to take a MRI to know what disc is compressed and consult with a doctor what do do about it

costly yeah but if your issue is affecting you that bad then you need it

Structurally speaking, there's more to back pain than a disc.  You have facet arthrosis, ligamentum flavum thickening, anter/retrolisthesis, spina bifida occulta, enthesiopathies....just to name a few.  In addition, research just found that supine MRI sometimes does not reveal the issues...not even with contrast.  Prone MRI's showed things supine ones did not.

It’s probably your posture getting worse when stressed. Try a posture brace to see if it helps.

great solution to making a problem worse.  Should he also get a push-up bra?  LSO and TSO braces actually are being shown to have less affect on peoples pain.  People start wearing them like the idiots in the gym who wear a weight belt for 'arm day'.

Well said, Gene. These online gurus change their minds every month and will blame it on the evolving science. First they said you can fast and not lose any muscle, and now they’re against fasting and say you’re better off eating protein first thing in the morning to preserve your muscle mass because that’s more important. They’re all over the place and will make money off their click bait video titles either way.

I wouldn't lump Rhonda in with those other fuckwits.  She really has some very good information that isn't "flavor of the day".
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 15, 2024, 08:46:36 AM
Obviously ...

But that's not the point, assuming will power is there (to reach 72 hours fasted) ... The reality is you no longer have food as energy source ... So my question remains; Do you still workout? cardio, daily chores etc ? ...



Thanks


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHh  Be YE Ke
I don't work out, but it didn't affect my work.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: longtimereader on April 15, 2024, 02:12:01 PM
I've done countless fasts, starting with 24 hours and working my way up to 120hrs.

There are definitely benefits, amazing things happed after day 3 or 4. I've noticed pains/injuries getting much better, could be something to do with stem cell generation once you get a couple of days into a fast.

Easy to fast if your mind is set on it. Saves a ton of time not wasting time on food, I like to fast when very busy at work. Easily gain 2-3 hours in a day by not eating/meal prepping and sitting on the toilet
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on April 15, 2024, 02:31:40 PM
Hey Gene!! How's the family?
doing ok and hope the same for you
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on April 15, 2024, 02:43:04 PM
I've done countless fasts, starting with 24 hours and working my way up to 120hrs.

There are definitely benefits, amazing things happed after day 3 or 4. I've noticed pains/injuries getting much better, could be something to do with stem cell generation once you get a couple of days into a fast.

Easy to fast if your mind is set on it. Saves a ton of time not wasting time on food, I like to fast when very busy at work. Easily gain 2-3 hours in a day by not eating/meal prepping and sitting on the toilet
there are no benefits that are so incredible that you should consider fasting as a miracle. If your body felt good fasting, then great. Try it again and keep doing it until its stops working. It’s the equivalent to you always losing your keys and wallet and then you decide to leave your keys and wallet in the same place by the back door. Now you never lose them again. There is no miracle. And you need to figure your affairs out and get with the program if you honestly think you’re spending that much time on the toilet and cooking rice and ground beef. You honestly expect us to believe you sit on the toilet for an hour and spend 2 hours cooking food to put in a Tupperware? So you want us to believe you are sitting on the toilet and as you sit on the toilet the sun rises, or darkness begins to take over outside your bathroom window as you still remain on the toilet. And all the stores shut down for the night and you are still sitting on the toilet? But thanks to fasting you can now enjoy parts of your life and new activities you never had the opportunity to try in the past because you were too busy boiling potatoes and steaming broccoli and packing Tupperware?
Stop the fasting worship. All you are doing is just eating later in the day. It’s the same thing if you got stuck in traffic each morning and you didn’t get to eat your breakfast sandwich until much later when you arrived at the office. And then to try and say that is the reason you had the time to poop more and write your novel. Because you finally had the time! You must be like the guy in the twilight zone episode where it was the nuclear disaster and he was the only man left alive and he could finally read his books without being disturbed.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Rambone on April 15, 2024, 03:31:07 PM
It’s a great way to burn hard-earned muscle that only gets harder to gain as you age. Sounds like a wonderful anti-aging technique. I feel like only obese people should incorporate this until they get into reasonable bodyweight.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Tapeworm on April 15, 2024, 03:50:21 PM
there are no benefits that are so incredible that you should consider fasting as a miracle. If your body felt good fasting, then great. Try it again and keep doing it until its stops working. It’s the equivalent to you always losing your keys and wallet and then you decide to leave your keys and wallet in the same place by the back door. Now you never lose them again. There is no miracle. And you need to figure your affairs out and get with the program if you honestly think you’re spending that much time on the toilet and cooking rice and ground beef. You honestly expect us to believe you sit on the toilet for an hour and spend 2 hours cooking food to put in a Tupperware? So you want us to believe you are sitting on the toilet and as you sit on the toilet the sun rises, or darkness begins to take over outside your bathroom window as you still remain on the toilet. And all the stores shut down for the night and you are still sitting on the toilet? But thanks to fasting you can now enjoy parts of your life and new activities you never had the opportunity to try in the past because you were too busy boiling potatoes and steaming broccoli and packing Tupperware?
Stop the fasting worship. All you are doing is just eating later in the day. It’s the same thing if you got stuck in traffic each morning and you didn’t get to eat your breakfast sandwich until much later when you arrived at the office. And then to try and say that is the reason you had the time to poop more and write your novel. Because you finally had the time! You must be like the guy in the twilight zone episode where it was the nuclear disaster and he was the only man left alive and he could finally read his books without being disturbed.

I liked the one with Shatner on the airplane.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on April 15, 2024, 03:58:02 PM
I liked the one with Shatner on the airplane.
that was a great one. My other favorites are the hollowing man devil w. the monks, the man and his dog hunting and devil tries to lure him into hell, train next stop to willoughby, and the old man in the cave that turns out to be a computer
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: longtimereader on April 15, 2024, 08:00:26 PM
there are no benefits that are so incredible that you should consider fasting as a miracle. If your body felt good fasting, then great. Try it again and keep doing it until its stops working. It’s the equivalent to you always losing your keys and wallet and then you decide to leave your keys and wallet in the same place by the back door. Now you never lose them again. There is no miracle. And you need to figure your affairs out and get with the program if you honestly think you’re spending that much time on the toilet and cooking rice and ground beef. You honestly expect us to believe you sit on the toilet for an hour and spend 2 hours cooking food to put in a Tupperware? So you want us to believe you are sitting on the toilet and as you sit on the toilet the sun rises, or darkness begins to take over outside your bathroom window as you still remain on the toilet. And all the stores shut down for the night and you are still sitting on the toilet? But thanks to fasting you can now enjoy parts of your life and new activities you never had the opportunity to try in the past because you were too busy boiling potatoes and steaming broccoli and packing Tupperware?
Stop the fasting worship. All you are doing is just eating later in the day. It’s the same thing if you got stuck in traffic each morning and you didn’t get to eat your breakfast sandwich until much later when you arrived at the office. And then to try and say that is the reason you had the time to poop more and write your novel. Because you finally had the time! You must be like the guy in the twilight zone episode where it was the nuclear disaster and he was the only man left alive and he could finally read his books without being disturbed.


On my last fast which was about 3 months ago I lost all interest in sweets/carbs. Have been on protein fat only since then and feel great. Something happened on day 5 of that fast and I have 0 interest in carbs since then.

wasn't planning on not eating carbs , no idea what happened. not sure if I'll ever eat carbs again

I would eat a tub of Haggen Daz twice per week before and daily sugar intake was definitely too high.


Since eating only protein/fat "healthy keto" I haven't felt like I need a fast yet.

Intermittent fasting I'm not sure about. I really think you have to get in the 5 day fasts to get the "miracles"
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Tapeworm on April 15, 2024, 08:03:13 PM

On my last fast which was about 3 months ago I lost all interest in sweets/carbs. Have been on protein fat only since then and feel great. Something happened on day 5 of that fast and I have 0 interest in carbs since then.

wasn't planning on not eating carbs , no idea what happened. not sure if I'll ever eat carbs again

I would eat a tub of Haggen Daz twice per week before and daily sugar intake was definitely too high.


Since eating only protein/fat "healthy keto" I haven't felt like I need a fast yet.

Intermittent fasting I'm not sure about. I really think you have to get in the 5 day fasts to get the "miracles"

You sound like an Outer Limits fan.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Lartinos on April 15, 2024, 08:14:19 PM
Structurally speaking, there's more to back pain than a disc.  You have facet arthrosis, ligamentum flavum thickening, anter/retrolisthesis, spina bifida occulta, enthesiopathies....just to name a few.  In addition, research just found that supine MRI sometimes does not reveal the issues...not even with contrast.  Prone MRI's showed things supine ones did not.

great solution to making a problem worse.  Should he also get a push-up bra?  LSO and TSO braces actually are being shown to have less affect on peoples pain.  People start wearing them like the idiots in the gym who wear a weight belt for 'arm day'.

I wouldn't lump Rhonda in with those other fuckwits.  She really has some very good information that isn't "flavor of the day".

Not my experience or someone else’s experience that  I know.

I think you’re knowledgeable and a good poster, but that you can come off like a know it all blowhard too.

Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: longtimereader on April 15, 2024, 08:15:07 PM
You sound like an Outer Limits fan.

no such thing as essential carbs/sugar.

Only essential protein (amino acids) and fat

So probably good that I cut the carbs out
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 16, 2024, 01:06:20 AM
that was a great one. My other favorites are the hollowing man devil w. the monks, the man and his dog hunting and devil tries to lure him into hell, train next stop to willoughby, and the old man in the cave that turns out to be a computer
Living Doll (talking Tina) with Telly Savalas was a great one.
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on April 16, 2024, 07:56:54 AM
Living Doll (talking Tina) with Telly Savalas was a great one.
yes it was!
Title: Re: fasting for 72 hours is the only thing that has relieved my chronic back pain
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on April 16, 2024, 07:59:09 AM

On my last fast which was about 3 months ago I lost all interest in sweets/carbs. Have been on protein fat only since then and feel great. Something happened on day 5 of that fast and I have 0 interest in carbs since then.

wasn't planning on not eating carbs , no idea what happened. not sure if I'll ever eat carbs again

I would eat a tub of Haggen Daz twice per week before and daily sugar intake was definitely too high.


Since eating only protein/fat "healthy keto" I haven't felt like I need a fast yet.

Intermittent fasting I'm not sure about. I really think you have to get in the 5 day fasts to get the "miracles"
we’ll at least you don’t seem like a born again intermittent fasting  gotta get my steps in looney tunes. The sweets and ice cream are definitely a slippery slope. Once you stop eating candy and sugar then I feel you stop craving it