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Title: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: affeman on July 22, 2024, 09:17:23 AM
Seems like it; NOT working with Chad Nicholls paid off big time in the long run for him :D

Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Arthur Nus on July 22, 2024, 09:35:00 AM

absolutely

using your mother as a runner is the sign of a genius
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on July 22, 2024, 09:35:58 AM
Shawn retired at 35 while he was still on top, knew that he could never win the O, he still had his health intact.

Meanwhile , how many are dead or have health issues? Even Levrone at 60 can’t put it down, Ronnie in a wheel chair, and flex most likely will expire soon
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 22, 2024, 10:13:24 AM
Seems like Shawn and Dorian are the
 

Most sane and least amount of health problems from that era Arron baker looks healthy as well
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Dalnet on July 22, 2024, 10:15:32 AM
Lee Labrada, Lee Haney, Jay Cutler would probably be my picks above Shawn. I respect his work and physique in his day, but as far as smartest... plenty got out, did well and seem OK, these days. Even Dorian, with all his injuries, manages to live a life of sorts with his drug experiments and yoga, I suppose
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: G_Thang on July 22, 2024, 10:54:25 AM
absolutely

using your mother as a runner is the sign of a genius

That's definitely a black eye on a pretty good career. Personally, I'd never let my mother do time for me.   i'd just have to use a lock and sock on bitches like Chaos on the cell block.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: a_pupil on July 22, 2024, 11:14:13 AM
Shawn's one of the only pros to successfully quit roids (guys who quit due to health issues don't count).

He shouldn't have gotten that fat though.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: 1Patrick on July 22, 2024, 11:29:16 AM
I would say it’s  a flip coin between Shawn and Ronny Rockel
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on July 22, 2024, 12:22:49 PM
Smartest top level pro ever is Arnold. Then, at a huge distance, all the others.

(But Sean did well. He's articulate, and seems healthy and well off).
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: wes on July 22, 2024, 12:24:24 PM
One of the very best bodybuilders that ever lived IMO....and smart enough to get out early enough to retain his health.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Dalnet on July 22, 2024, 12:25:32 PM
Smartest top level pro ever is Arnold. Then, at a huge distance, all the others.

(But Sean did well. He's articulate, and seems healthy and well off).

Valid point. Arnold is numero uno. Shawn may be more articulate in conveying his thoughts. But it is what it is
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Dokey111 on July 22, 2024, 12:49:35 PM
Just ask him
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: falco on July 22, 2024, 12:52:17 PM
Smart how? Because he isn't crippled?
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 22, 2024, 01:08:56 PM
if shawn where in his prime now he would win the 212 many years in a row then go to classic and show that canadian cuck bumsted what a  real body builder is supposed to look like.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Dokey111 on July 22, 2024, 01:12:55 PM
if shawn where in his prime now he would win the 212 many years in a row then go to classic and show that canadian cuck bumsted what a  real body builder is supposed to look like.

hi shawn
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: BB on July 22, 2024, 01:29:11 PM
I suppose the 3 criteria for this question are -

1) How far did he place in actual bodybuilding?

2) How far did he get outside of bodybuilding?

3) If you sat him down, how smart does he actually seem?

I think he be A-, B+ range. I saw Labrada mentioned, he'd be in the A range for me. Really solid bodybuilding record without serious problems later on in life. Very solid business acumen, etc.....

Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on July 22, 2024, 01:59:54 PM
I suppose the 3 criteria for this question are -

1) How far did he place in actual bodybuilding?

2) How far did he get outside of bodybuilding?

3) If you sat him down, how smart does he actually seem?

I think he be A-, B+ range. I saw Labrada mentioned, he'd be in the A range for me. Really solid bodybuilding record without serious problems later on in life. Very solid business acumen, etc.....

Labrada can’t be that smart, look at his son hunter, following his footsteps but looks 10x worse and all drugs. Health issues on the way if not already hit him

John brown, his mentor is another smart one, all three of his kids are successful and not one in bbing

Amon St Brown, his son is one of the best receivers in the NFL, and one of the highest paid, playing a real sport
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 22, 2024, 02:25:01 PM
Labrada can’t be that smart, look at his son hunter, following his footsteps but looks 10x worse and all drugs. Health issues on the way if not already hit him


Lee should have convinced him to do something else, he knew what risks you take with your health being a pro and you should want better for your kids.

Looking at Hunters face he looks like a stage 4 cancer patient bloated with chemo..
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 22, 2024, 02:27:37 PM
Labrada can’t be that smart, look at his son hunter, following his footsteps but looks 10x worse and all drugs. Health issues on the way if not already hit him

John brown, his mentor is another smart one, all three of his kids are successful and not one in bbing

Amon St Brown, his son is one of the best receivers in the NFL, and one of the highest paid, playing a real sport

great points hunter is a  moron and looks like shit , in fact alot of the you tube channels try to hype him up so they can get a labrada nutrition sponsorship nicks strength and power is a prime example of this, when labrada was a paid sponsor on his channel nick "the closet schmo" would go on and on about how geat hunter is.  this kid has never had a job in his life his whole life since he was a teenager has been sticking needels in his ass  and having his daddy foot his bills.

i alaways liked shawn for telling it how it is.  wheter if you you agree with everything he says or not. he always spoke his mind i  could be wrong but i think he got his pro card when he was 20 one of the youngest ever to get one.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 22, 2024, 02:28:16 PM
Lee should have convinced him to do something else, he knew what risks you take with your health being a pro and you should want better for your kids.

Looking at Hunters face he looks like a stage 4 cancer patient bloated with chemo..

what else could hunter do . all he does is play video games and do drugs and his daddy pays his bills.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 22, 2024, 02:33:33 PM
I would say it’s  a flip coin between Shawn and Ronny Rockel

Rockell really? I had some vague understanding that he was seen as someone particularly reckless? I mean he did become diabetic and there was the understanding it was bc of the drugs. Do you know him?
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: GymnJuice on July 22, 2024, 02:37:43 PM
Depends on what is meant by smartest. Zane has a master's degree and has made it to 82.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 22, 2024, 02:38:43 PM
Do you think the smart bodybuilders steer their kids towards other things not just due to health issues but because it's so sleazy. Maybe even more so.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: 1Patrick on July 22, 2024, 02:40:40 PM
Rockell really? I had some vague understanding that he was seen as someone particularly reckless? I mean he did become diabetic and there was the understanding it was bc of the drugs. Do you know him?
Affeman started earlier topic about Ronny so I was just try to poke him .But in all seriousness when it comes to health I would say Mike  Ashley .
He looks very  healthy and no one ever caught him lying about AS.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 22, 2024, 02:53:06 PM
Affeman started earlier topic about Ronny so I was just try to poke him .But in all seriousness when it comes to health I would say Mike  Ashley .
He looks very  healthy and no one ever caught him lying about AS.

have you seen aaron baker he  looks pretty healthy to these days well spoken guy as well i as to my knowledge he has no health issues as well
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 22, 2024, 02:56:51 PM
Shawn was one of the best and a seriously hard trainer. 
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: 1Patrick on July 22, 2024, 03:15:02 PM
have you seen aaron baker he  looks pretty healthy to these days well spoken guy as well i as to my knowledge he has no health issues as well
I have not seen current pics ,but I do agree he is well spoken fella.
IMO most underrated BB.
Aaron officially coming out as gay  and  brief  stint with WBF  hurt him really  bad in IFBB placings.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 22, 2024, 04:54:36 PM
I have not seen current pics ,but I do agree he is well spoken fella.
IMO most underrated BB.
Aaron officially coming out as gay  and  brief  stint with WBF  hurt him really  bad in IFBB placings.

There are some podcast interviews he has done on YouTube he looks good for his age and I believe quit mega dosing many years ago
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 22, 2024, 04:55:51 PM
Shawn was one of the best and a seriously hard trainer.

You got that right pretty strong in his prime for his weight trained hard right up there with Yates Coleman levrone and that retard Coleman
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 23, 2024, 12:31:41 AM
Seems like Shawn and Dorian are the
 

Most sane and least amount of health problems from that era Arron baker looks healthy as well
Dorian was injured many times but Shawn never was.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 23, 2024, 12:43:09 AM
Vince Taylor still looks great , never a heavy lifter, trained smart
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 23, 2024, 12:45:35 AM
Vince Taylor still looks great , never a heavy lifter, trained smart
Looks almost identical to 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 23, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
if shawn where in his prime now he would win the 212 many years in a row then go to classic and show that canadian cuck bumsted what a  real body builder is supposed to look like.

This

Shawn 96' Uncrowned Mr.O


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2024, 06:35:31 AM
This

Shawn 96' Uncrowned Mr.O


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

LOL
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2024, 06:39:13 AM
Vince Taylor still looks great , never a heavy lifter, trained smart
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: a_pupil on July 23, 2024, 08:17:25 AM


Bloody hell  :o

Volume training is king

Anyone got his training philosophy/split/diet advices? He must have the recipe. He's pushing 60 now.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 23, 2024, 08:59:53 AM
Bloody hell  :o

Volume training is king

Anyone got his training philosophy/split/diet advices? He must have the recipe. He's pushing 60 now.


Fuck, hes 68
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: hench on July 23, 2024, 09:27:58 AM
58  8)

Fuck, hes 68
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 23, 2024, 09:30:22 AM
58  8)
Im 59 and hes a lot older than me


says he was born 1956
In the 90s he was always one of the older guys
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2024, 09:31:24 AM
67  8)



Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Donny on July 23, 2024, 09:33:11 AM
Vince Taylor still looks great , never a heavy lifter, trained smart
Smart with the juice too..I bet
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Schnauzer on July 23, 2024, 12:44:40 PM
Why is Shawn always wearing those racquetball glasses?
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 23, 2024, 12:47:34 PM
Why is Shawn always wearing those racquetball glasses?
to get people talking...
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: wes on July 23, 2024, 12:48:46 PM
Met Vince Taylor twice when I lived in Florida....chatted him up..........a genuinely great guy.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 23, 2024, 12:54:20 PM
vince taylor has incredible genetics , i bet he laughs at that retard coleman when he sees him crawling around at coventions yelling yeah buddy
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 23, 2024, 02:31:58 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: The Scott on July 23, 2024, 03:29:16 PM
If Shawn competed to day he would be Mensa level smart compared to the maroons of today's bodybuilding champions. And outside of a stacked with pimple sucking schmoes for judges he would win the O with ease.

Pimple pigs...all of these buttmonkeys of today.  And very stupid to boot.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 23, 2024, 03:35:35 PM
If Shawn competed to day he would be Mensa level smart compared to the maroons of today's bodybuilding champions. And outside of a stacked with pimple sucking schmoes for judges he would win the O with ease.

Pimple pigs...all of these buttmonkeys of today.  And very stupid to boot.
Shawn doesnt have the commitment of todays pros to weigh every single meal to the gram and to do it seperatly every single time with a set of scales.
 ;D

Fucks sake the pros today mixing chicken rice bananas and almond butter putting one ingredient in the bowl, weighing it and then zeroing the scales for the next ingredient

Fucks sake , just use the same size bowl each time, after you have weighed it once you dont have to do it again
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: 1Patrick on July 23, 2024, 03:53:11 PM
Met Vince Taylor twice when I lived in Florida....chatted him up..........a genuinely great guy.
I’ve met tons of pros ,but never got a chance to meet Vince. Heard from others the same he is very nice and friendly.
His Terminator has to be the top 3 posing routine of all times.Never gets old.
i=Wg5mu-v_KUvvJ_yG
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 24, 2024, 12:40:12 AM
LOL
  :D Looks like a troll compared to Yates.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: wes on July 24, 2024, 03:20:30 AM
Shawn doesnt have the commitment of todays pros to weigh every single meal to the gram and to do it seperatly every single time with a set of scales.
 ;D

Fucks sake the pros today mixing chicken rice bananas and almond butter putting one ingredient in the bowl, weighing it and then zeroing the scales for the next ingredient

Fucks sake , just use the same size bowl each time, after you have weighed it once you dont have to do it again
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: The Scott on July 24, 2024, 08:06:16 AM
Shawn doesnt have the commitment of todays pros to weigh every single meal to the gram and to do it seperatly every single time with a set of scales.
 ;D

Fucks sake the pros today mixing chicken rice bananas and almond butter putting one ingredient in the bowl, weighing it and then zeroing the scales for the next ingredient

Fucks sake , just use the same size bowl each time, after you have weighed it once you dont have to do it again

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Royalty on July 24, 2024, 09:07:35 AM
Mentzer was the smartest athlete ever
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 24, 2024, 11:45:00 AM
I’ve met tons of pros ,but never got a chance to meet Vince. Heard from others the same he is very nice and friendly.
His Terminator has to be the top 3 posing routine of all times.Never gets old.
i=Wg5mu-v_KUvvJ_yG

One of the best posing routines ever. He's up there with Ed Corney.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: 1Patrick on July 24, 2024, 01:57:36 PM
One of the best posing routines ever. He's up there with Ed Corney.
Hard to name  the best  posing routine  ,so many to choose  from:

Kai -/Dirty Diana /,Melvin Anthony ,Ed Corney,Lee Labrada,Charles Dareem,Benfatto,Wolf was pretty decent .Even monster like Yates did put effort into the routine.Today’s twats just ear cupping and walking left to right  . Branch competed about 20 years and I’ve never seen him doing different song and routine , always posed on Kid Rock slapping thighs lol.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: IroNat on July 24, 2024, 02:06:57 PM
Hard to name  the best  posing routine  ,so many to choose  from:

Kai -/Dirty Diana /,Melvin Anthony ,Ed Corney,Lee Labrada,Charles Dareem,Benfatto,Wolf was pretty decent .Even monster like Yates did put effort into the routine.Today’s twats just ear cupping and walking left to right  . Branch competed about 20 years and I’ve never seen him doing different song and routine , always posed on Kid Rock slapping thighs lol.

Arnold was a great poser also.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 24, 2024, 02:19:23 PM
Hard to name  the best  posing routine  ,so many to choose  from:

Kai -/Dirty Diana /,Melvin Anthony ,Ed Corney,Lee Labrada,Charles Dareem,Benfatto,Wolf was pretty decent .Even monster like Yates did put effort into the routine.Today’s twats just ear cupping and walking left to right  . Branch competed about 20 years and I’ve never seen him doing different song and routine , always posed on Kid Rock slapping thighs lol.
Labrada 89 Olympia, technically flawless, you can stop the film at any point and he still looks good, even in transition.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 24, 2024, 11:49:45 PM
Arnold was a great poser also.
He sure was.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: wes on July 25, 2024, 01:36:03 AM
Lets not forget Makkawy !!
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: illuminati on July 25, 2024, 11:18:55 AM
Hard to name  the best  posing routine  ,so many to choose  from:

Kai -/Dirty Diana /,Melvin Anthony ,Ed Corney,Lee Labrada,Charles Dareem,Benfatto,Wolf was pretty decent .Even monster like Yates did put effort into the routine.Today’s twats just ear cupping and walking left to right  . Branch competed about 20 years and I’ve never seen him doing different song and routine , always posed on Kid Rock slapping thighs lol.


Phil Hill  Phantom of the opera routine has to be up there
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: 1Patrick on July 25, 2024, 11:25:42 AM
Makkawy and Phil Hill -great calls .
Lamest shit I’ve ever seen was amateurs copying pro’s  routines.
 Matt Porter’s /RIP/ Dirty Diana  and some Russian guy doing terminator .SMH
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 26, 2024, 12:19:36 AM
Lets not forget Makkawy !!
One of the most underrated ever.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Grenache on July 26, 2024, 02:25:27 AM
One of the most underrated ever.
Indeed!
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 26, 2024, 07:28:52 AM
Indeed!


i remember he did like no carbs for his contest diet as well, like super harsh
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 26, 2024, 12:41:51 PM
LOL

 I meant Mr.O 94


That VHS still doesn't prove much though


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 26, 2024, 12:43:32 PM
Here
 ;D


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on July 26, 2024, 12:51:06 PM
Chris Cormier said Dorian has a small cock

Flex wheeler said in muscular development in his exact words “Shawn has a mishap penis”

Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 26, 2024, 01:08:47 PM
I meant Mr.O 94


That VHS still doesn't prove much though


WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHH


94? Shawn was BEHIND Kevin after the prejudging only edged him out in the posing rounds.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: wes on July 26, 2024, 01:44:15 PM
Chris Cormier said Dorian has a small cock

Flex wheeler said in muscular development in his exact words “Shawn has a mishap penis”


Dude,you kill me !   ;D
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 26, 2024, 02:55:24 PM
I actually think Shawn looked his best at the 92 Olympia the magazines said he should have been second
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 26, 2024, 03:33:29 PM
I actually think Shawn looked his best at the 92 Olympia the magazines said he should have been second
No they didnt, they all said he was carrying a film of water, he was..
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 26, 2024, 03:54:25 PM
I have not seen current pics ,but I do agree he is well spoken fella.
IMO most underrated BB.
Aaron officially coming out as gay  and  brief  stint with WBF  hurt him really  bad in IFBB placings.

When did he do that? He's married...to a woman
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 26, 2024, 04:02:24 PM
I’ve met tons of pros ,but never got a chance to meet Vince. Heard from others the same he is very nice and friendly.
His Terminator has to be the top 3 posing routine of all times.Never gets old.
i=Wg5mu-v_KUvvJ_yG

That was awesome.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: ThisisOverload on July 26, 2024, 08:17:16 PM
Very smart to wear eye protection to an interview.

I wear the same glasses when i'm using my weed whacker. ;D
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: mops on July 26, 2024, 10:00:17 PM
Speaking of Vince Taylor, I remember reading this old thread about his drug use 12 years ago. Crazy stuff if true. Good times.

8,4g per week + 18 i.u. of growth ed.

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?PHPSESSID=d13a11c608baa9ac654a965e84001110&topic=421789.0

This guy competed in the 80's and 90's on the national level, never got a pro card. He did the Nationals and USA's a combined 12 times, and was around a lot of the pro's back then. He told me he was friends with Vince in the mid 90's and that the guy relied on his genetics and drugs for everything, basically another Paul Dillet. Always trained consistently, but never pushed himself that hard or followed much of a diet. He said he was around Vince for his prep for one of the Arnolds and that he basically ate 3 times a day. For breakfast he'd have eggs and bacon, then do his morning workout, then eat a burger and drink regular coke, go back and train later, then another meal and at night he'd have scotch or rum if he felt like it. Said Vince trained twice a day and 6 days a week. 12-15 sets per bodypart, moderate reps never going to failure. Then he told me about drugs and said that this was one area vince was completely anal about. Never missed a shot ever and always did it the same time everyday. Loved shooting his arms and calves the most. He said the guy loved parabolan, anadrol, gh...  I don't know what his whole cycle looked like but here's the numbers he was telling me that vince was running a month out

Sustanon 1250mg Per Week
Test Prop 1000mg Per Week
EQ 1800mg Per Week
Parabolan 228mg ED
Masteron 200mg ED
Anadrol 200mg ED
T3/Clen/Ephedrine(didn't mention doses just the use of them)
GH 18iu ED

Said after this point he'd start lowering his test big time and bring his mast and para dosages up. I asked him about synthol because i've heard ppl accuse Vince of it before, but he said no synthol just site injects. Never went crazy with diuretics but always used them.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 27, 2024, 01:04:20 AM
Speaking of Vince Taylor, I remember reading this old thread about his drug use 12 years ago. Crazy stuff if true. Good times.

8,4g per week + 18 i.u. of growth ed.

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?PHPSESSID=d13a11c608baa9ac654a965e84001110&topic=421789.0
if he were doing that back then he wouldnt look as good as he does now

Total bullshit
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 27, 2024, 11:46:30 PM
Chris Cormier said Dorian has a small cock

Flex wheeler said in muscular development in his exact words “Shawn has a mishap penis”
They would know. :-[
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: stavios on July 28, 2024, 06:46:48 PM
Vince Taylor still looks great , never a heavy lifter, trained smart

He said on DJ's podcast that he did train heavy before some injuries and that it's only afterward that he turned to cable training
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: illuminati on July 28, 2024, 06:50:37 PM
He said on DJ's podcast that he did train heavy before some injuries and that it's only afterward that he turned to cable training

I met Vince 30yrs ago in the gym & he told me then he didn't train very heavy.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 29, 2024, 12:27:14 AM
I met Vince 30yrs ago in the gym & he told me then he didn't train very heavy.
He tore a bicep before he became a pro but I think he said it was with a 10lb dumbbell.
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Pet shop boys on July 29, 2024, 05:14:15 AM
94? Shawn was BEHIND Kevin after the prejudging only edged him out in the posing rounds.


Levroneeeeee has a new coach!!!!  a newer comeback is in the horizon baby



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Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: joswift on July 29, 2024, 05:52:24 AM
He tore a bicep before he became a pro but I think he said it was with a 10lb dumbbell.
I think that was warming up backstage at the 87 Nationals
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 29, 2024, 11:46:32 PM
I think that was warming up backstage at the 87 Nationals
Talk about bad luck. Have you ever seen someone hurt themselves backstage before?
Title: Re: Is Shawn RAY the smartest Top Level IFBB Pro of all time ??
Post by: oldschoolfan on July 31, 2024, 11:30:50 AM

Levroneeeeee has a new coach!!!!  a newer comeback is in the horizon baby



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Who is his new coach??

Chad “dr death”Nichols