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Title: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 03, 2024, 09:37:40 AM
I had an accident 3 weeks ago. The doctors said I would be able to train again at the end of December. Unfortunately, I can already see unfavorable changes in my body. My muscle mass has clearly decreased and my fat tissue has increased, even though I weigh less than before the accident. Up until now I have been on 750 mg of testosterone per week, currently during convalescence 125 mg per week. What do you suggest after resuming training? Will recomp be a good idea, or maybe cutting? I really want to get back in shape, so I am determined to add a steroid to testosterone. But which one? In the past, I have only used NPP and EQ with testosterone. I know that many of you have a lot of knowledge on this subject, and maybe someone has even been in a similar situation. I would be grateful for your help.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: joswift on December 03, 2024, 10:15:00 AM
I had an accident 3 weeks ago. The doctors said I would be able to train again at the end of December. Unfortunately, I can already see unfavorable changes in my body. My muscle mass has clearly decreased and my fat tissue has increased, even though I weigh less than before the accident. Up until now I have been on 750 mg of testosterone per week, currently during convalescence 125 mg per week. What do you suggest after resuming training? Will recomp be a good idea, or maybe cutting? I really want to get back in shape, so I am determined to add a steroid to testosterone. But which one? In the past, I have only used NPP and EQ with testosterone. I know that many of you have a lot of knowledge on this subject, and maybe someone has even been in a similar situation. I would be grateful for your help.
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Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 03, 2024, 10:29:27 AM
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I'm sorry about you. Who did this to you?
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: joswift on December 03, 2024, 10:35:31 AM
your body composition will change due to the lack of training and still eating excess

You wont lose any muscle they will just shrink.
Same way you dont gain any muscle when they come back

Muscles expand not grow.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 03, 2024, 10:44:24 AM
your body composition will change due to the lack of training and still eating excess

You wont lose any muscle they will just shrink.
Same way you dont gain any muscle when they come back

Muscles expand not grow.
I know what you wrote. English is not my language so it may have sounded wrong by accident.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: joswift on December 03, 2024, 10:47:44 AM
I know what you wrote. English is not my language so it may have sounded wrong by accident.
Hypertrophy v hyperplasia
Google it
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: falco on December 05, 2024, 01:27:08 AM
It's not like you have been in a coma for 3 years. Just keep doing what you have been doing, adjust carbs for body composition, and consider using less drugs in the long run. Focus on healing, give it time. If you have muscle/joint injuries, some peptides surely will help.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 05, 2024, 01:29:48 AM
Three weeks?  I opened the thread thinking it was a couple years off. This ain’t shit. 
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: BigRo on December 05, 2024, 02:26:22 AM
Give your body the time it needs to recover and stop spazzing out. A bit of long acting nandrolone, not NPP would provide some additional healing benefits to your trt dosage.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Hulkotron on December 05, 2024, 03:17:27 AM
Up the dose
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2024, 05:07:06 AM
Eat whole eggs.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2024, 05:13:03 AM
Eat man come.

 :D  now i know why you´re called Iron"nat"
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2024, 05:16:57 AM
:D  now i know why you´re called Iron"nat"

Now Donny...
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 05, 2024, 06:49:30 AM
Any muscle lost over such a short period comes back in an instant, unless the issue you had won't ever be resolved after your convalescence. Twice I was on a ventilator for 3 weeks and lost 70lbs each time while intitially being so weak I couldn't drink a cup of water without a long straw, nor even stand up 5 seconds with a 200 heart rate ;D Each time I was back in 3 months size-wise although with some lingering issues limiting myself in lifting but the "image was back" within weeks, like blowing air into a balloon.  :D

IMO all the steroids work the same but some are more quick acting. But if I wanted to do an instant-comeback, an Anadrol a day would do it added to the test, 3 weeks and you are back. You want to add Primo/EQ/Deca, that's fine but it's not instant muscle like with some orals. Some want to take their time, some are in more of a hurry .

A quick recomp that scaresly no one will try: eat protein as much as you can only apart from around the workout, then take 15 units of Novorapid or Humalog etc preworkout and follow up with 250 grams of carbs and some aminos the next 2.5 hours. 2-4iu gh a day. Test base, could be just 250mg, and one Anadrol. Clen 60mcg a day. Could look better than before your lay-off with minimal, imo, risk to your health 8) After 3 weeks resume your previous base use of roids or even less.
 :D :D  :D
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: joswift on December 05, 2024, 06:52:54 AM
Any muscle lost over such a short period comes back in an instant, unless the issue you had won't ever be resolved after your convalescence. Twice I was on a ventilator for 3 weeks and lost 70lbs each time while intitially being so weak I couldn't drink a cup of water without a long straw, nor even stand up 5 seconds with a 200 heart rate ;D Each time I was back in 3 months size-wise although with some lingering issues limiting myself in lifting but the "image was back" within weeks, like blowing air into a balloon.  :D

IMO all the steroids work the same but some are more quick acting. But if I wanted to do an instant-comeback, an Anadrol a day would do it added to the test, 3 weeks and you are back. You want to add Primo/EQ/Deca, that's fine but it's not instant muscle like with some orals. Some want to take their time, some are in more of a hurry .

A quick recomp that scaresly no one will try: eat protein as much as you can only apart from around the workout, then take 15 units of Novorapid or Humalog etc preworkout and follow up with 250 grams of carbs and some aminos the next 2.5 hours. 2-4iu gh a day. Test base, could be just 250mg, and one Anadrol. Clen 60mcg a day. Could look better than before your lay-off with minimal, imo, risk to your health 8) After 3 weeks resume your previous base use of roids or even less.
 :D :D  :D

thats because you dont lose it, it just shrinks

Remember Mike Morris story about Milos going from an untrtrained man to a 230lb bodybuilder in a couple of hours backstage by injecting insulin and throwing in simple carbs and water
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 05, 2024, 07:09:15 AM
thats because you dont lose it, it just shrinks

Remember Mike Morris story about Milos going from an untrtrained man to a 230lb bodybuilder in a couple of hours backstage by injecting insulin and throwing in simple carbs and water

Yes exactly, it doesn't truly go away. Morris' story is baloney for the most part, it isn't quite that instantaneous. Probably adding color did most of the transformation.

Most would balk at my Anadrol suggestion, but what's 3-4 weeks? They gave this stuff at 2 tabs to 70 and 80 year old men for 12 wekeks with little sides.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: BigRo on December 05, 2024, 07:17:57 AM
No point in him taking insulin. Did Lee Haney take insulin? What a mind fuck while training.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: 38 returns on December 05, 2024, 07:18:37 AM
I last did anadrol about 15 years back the old anapolan 50's


have to say I loved them on 1 a day.

had a training partner who took 6 a day and was superstring but used to get nosebleeds a fair bit.

in terms of fullness and feel good I loved it. I also enjoyed pronabol 5 D-bols for a feel good factor.

I may give the anadrols a little run new year
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: joswift on December 05, 2024, 08:14:38 AM
Yes exactly, it doesn't truly go away. Morris' story is baloney for the most part, it isn't quite that instantaneous. Probably adding color did most of the transformation.

Most would balk at my Anadrol suggestion, but what's 3-4 weeks? They gave this stuff at 2 tabs to 70 and 80 year old men for 12 wekeks with little sides.

you could say that for every single anecdote and even witness statements

Go in the gym cold then pump up, you can dramatically increase in size just from that alone, thats no food or insulin
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 05, 2024, 09:10:02 AM
Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions. I still have some NPP at home so I thought I would add that to the test so I wouldn't have to order more products.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 05, 2024, 09:14:32 AM
Eat whole eggs.
I eat whole eggs and red meat every day  ;)
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 05, 2024, 09:18:47 AM
Any muscle lost over such a short period comes back in an instant, unless the issue you had won't ever be resolved after your convalescence. Twice I was on a ventilator for 3 weeks and lost 70lbs each time while intitially being so weak I couldn't drink a cup of water without a long straw, nor even stand up 5 seconds with a 200 heart rate ;D Each time I was back in 3 months size-wise although with some lingering issues limiting myself in lifting but the "image was back" within weeks, like blowing air into a balloon.  :D

IMO all the steroids work the same but some are more quick acting. But if I wanted to do an instant-comeback, an Anadrol a day would do it added to the test, 3 weeks and you are back. You want to add Primo/EQ/Deca, that's fine but it's not instant muscle like with some orals. Some want to take their time, some are in more of a hurry .

A quick recomp that scaresly no one will try: eat protein as much as you can only apart from around the workout, then take 15 units of Novorapid or Humalog etc preworkout and follow up with 250 grams of carbs and some aminos the next 2.5 hours. 2-4iu gh a day. Test base, could be just 250mg, and one Anadrol. Clen 60mcg a day. Could look better than before your lay-off with minimal, imo, risk to your health 8) After 3 weeks resume your previous base use of roids or even less.
 :D :D  :D
As for me, fortunately I have no fractures or injuries, only head injuries. Doctors recommended that I refrain from training for 6 weeks, so as not to increase the pressure in my head, which could impede healing.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Griffith on December 05, 2024, 10:08:37 AM
I take a month off training when I go travelling on holiday.

When I get back to training I start a bit lighter and take about 2 weeks to get where I was before in terms of strength.

The muscle 'loss' is negligible.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2024, 11:22:51 AM
I eat whole eggs and red meat every day  ;)

Excellent.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2024, 11:23:48 AM
As for me, fortunately I have no fractures or injuries, only head injuries. Doctors recommended that I refrain from training for 6 weeks, so as not to increase the pressure in my head, which could impede healing.

Is your name Trevor Lawrence?
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 05, 2024, 12:15:37 PM
Is your name Trevor Lawrence?
No, why do you ask?
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Royalty on December 05, 2024, 12:25:56 PM
No, why do you ask?

You sound like an idiot now. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: rick doot on December 05, 2024, 12:42:53 PM
It sounds like you are slightly in nutritional deficit. You should look into making a Nutrient Cocoon. See chapter 4 of: Hankins, B.H. (2014) The Nutrient Cocoon. Salem , North Carolina : Schmoe City Publishers.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 05, 2024, 12:54:10 PM
You sound like an idiot now. Stop embarrassing yourself.
I checked on google who it is. I'm from Poland and American football doesn't interest me at all.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: rick doot on December 05, 2024, 01:10:26 PM
Kurwa
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 05, 2024, 01:36:24 PM
As for me, fortunately I have no fractures or injuries, only head injuries. Doctors recommended that I refrain from training for 6 weeks, so as not to increase the pressure in my head, which could impede healing.

Hard stretching might be useful. Just a hunch for the most part, atlhough we know a stretch is an anabolic stimulus in itself.

you could say that for every single anecdote and even witness statements

Go in the gym cold then pump up, you can dramatically increase in size just from that alone, thats no food or insulin

Yeah I know. Sometimes the gym pump can be imaginary to a degree I suspect, although I know exactly how it feels.

No point in him taking insulin. Did Lee Haney take insulin? What a mind fuck while training.

You dont need anything of course. My experience is that almost no one actually feels insulin much if theres a continuous stream of carbs coming in. I see it as no more advanced a product compared to any other hormone. But as long as someone hasnt tried they are apprehensive. It would volumise you quicker. Guys are paranoid they are small after a short break and then you tell them you can be 100% back in 10 days and they are aghast at the suggestion of some Anadrol or especially insulin  :D
I last did anadrol about 15 years back the old anapolan 50's


have to say I loved them on 1 a day.

had a training partner who took 6 a day and was superstring but used to get nosebleeds a fair bit.

in terms of fullness and feel good I loved it. I also enjoyed pronabol 5 D-bols for a feel good factor.

I may give the anadrols a little run new year

Dianabol is the sunny day steroid for me and many others. Now its though of as a crude, shit steroid. Nothing could be further from the truth lol.

In my experience, I could do a whole bottle of test a week, 2500mg, yet it doesnt feel like 1 Anadrol a day or 350mg a week.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: BigRo on December 05, 2024, 01:43:29 PM
Hard stretching might be useful. Just a hunch for the most part, atlhough we know a stretch is an anabolic stimulus in itself.

Yeah I know. Sometimes the gym pump can be imaginary to a degree I suspect, although I know exactly how it feels.

You dont need anything of course. My experience is that almost no one actually feels insulin much if theres a continuous stream of carbs coming in. I see it as no more advanced a product compared to any other hormone. But as long as someone hasnt tried they are apprehensive. It would volumise you quicker. Guys are paranoid they are small after a short break and then you tell them you can be 100% back in 10 days and they are aghast at the suggestion of some Anadrol or especially insulin  :D
Dianabol is the sunny day steroid for me and many others. Now its though of as a crude, shit steroid. Nothing could be further from the truth lol.

In my experience, I could do a whole bottle of test a week, 2500mg, yet it doesnt feel like 1 Anadrol a day or 350mg a week.

Tried growth hormone once 10 years ago, one kit, I guess it volumized me a bit. Tried insulin at the same time but not for long, I mismeasured it at 70 and that was not at all a pleasant experience, pounded the carbs and said my prayers.

Agree about dianabol, best feelings and major gains and strength. Quite estrogenic though.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Barry Casserole, P.I. on December 05, 2024, 02:21:43 PM
As for me, fortunately I have no fractures or injuries, only head injuries. Doctors recommended that I refrain from training for 6 weeks, so as not to increase the pressure in my head, which could impede healing.

Sounds to me like you need to man up. I fractured multiple bones including my cranium in a freefall parachute accident a while ago. Doctors said the only reason I survived was my excess musculature. Back to the gym after 2 weeks, no problemo.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JK on December 05, 2024, 02:27:23 PM
Sounds to me like you need to man up. I fractured multiple bones including my cranium in a freefall parachute accident a while ago. Doctors said the only reason I survived was my excess musculature. Back to the gym after 2 weeks, no problemo.
I also have a few skull fractures. Maybe I'm too concerned about my current shape. I'll be back training soon and I'll be even stronger than before.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: BigRo on December 05, 2024, 02:29:02 PM
Sounds to me like you need to man up. I fractured multiple bones including my cranium in a freefall parachute accident a while ago. Doctors said the only reason I survived was my excess musculature. Back to the gym after 2 weeks, no problemo.

Do you make a good casserole superman?
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: IroNat on December 05, 2024, 04:07:41 PM
No, why do you ask?

Just kidding you.

Lawrence took a big hit and got a concussion in the game last weekend.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: falco on December 05, 2024, 04:09:01 PM
Sounds to me like you need to man up. I fractured multiple bones including my cranium in a freefall parachute accident a while ago. Doctors said the only reason I survived was my excess musculature. Back to the gym after 2 weeks, no problemo.
I believe i read about that in the newspaper. You left quite a crater in the ground.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 06, 2024, 12:17:45 AM
Sounds to me like you need to man up. I fractured multiple bones including my cranium in a freefall parachute accident a while ago. Doctors said the only reason I survived was my excess musculature. Back to the gym after 2 weeks, no problemo.
Damn, some of you guys live dangerous lives. Are you James Bond?
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: beakdoctor on December 06, 2024, 12:42:10 AM
You sound like an idiot now. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Shut up you old hag. You've been embarrassing yourself for a few years now.

JK, i don't know who you are but don't listen to a thing royaljelly says. That guy looks like a colostomy bag.

He's also a fucking creep. I guarantee he's going to try and trick you into this stupid thing he does where he tries to get a pucture of your hands.

Hes an obsessed fraud who doesn't know a fucking thing about working out.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Barry Casserole, P.I. on December 06, 2024, 01:22:40 AM
Damn, some of you guys live dangerous lives. Are you James Bond?

I will not divulge the nature of my former career with the U.S. government. Hope this helps.

Do you make a good casserole superman?

I am from a long line of fighting men from the Casserole clan. Nothing to do with peasant food so watch your tone, little guy. Please and thanks.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: rick doot on December 06, 2024, 05:00:03 AM
I will not divulge the nature of my former career with the U.S. government. Hope this helps.


Ice machine attendant at the Bellagio?
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: CalvinH on December 06, 2024, 07:48:14 AM
I checked on google who it is. I'm from Poland.

Did you ever meet a butt ugly, flat faced, 155lb skinny dude who was walking around in the middle of winter like he was jacked in a Captain America t-shirt with sleeves cut off ???


....If you are black I'm sure he would have introduced himself to you. He was always looking for ''New friends"
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 06, 2024, 08:09:36 AM
Did you ever meet a butt ugly, flat faced, 155lb skinny dude who was walking around in the middle of winter like he was jacked in a Captain America t-shirt with sleeves cut off ???


....If you are black I'm sure he would have introduced himself to you. He was always looking for ''New friends"
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Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: CalvinH on December 06, 2024, 05:27:35 PM
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The face a mother would send hundreds of dollars a month to so he doesn't have to move back home with her.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: 1Patrick on December 06, 2024, 06:04:59 PM
Is your name Trevor Lawrence?

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Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: AbrahamG on December 06, 2024, 07:53:26 PM
I eat whole eggs and red meat every day  ;)

Try adding wala wala onions.  They help with inflammation of anus.
Title: Re: What would be best for me when I return to training?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 07, 2024, 12:13:59 AM
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:D He'll probably be cancelled now by the NFL for not being inclusive.