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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: loco on April 15, 2026, 04:49:25 PM
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Wasn’t his liver banged up?
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It should be mentioned that...Jim Quinn said that they did a skin fold measurement which showed 0.0% bodyfat on Flex Wheeler at the Gold's in Venice one week before the 93 Mr. Olympia. He also said Flex was the only bodybuilder to ever do that.
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The guys today who die look like shit; at least he got some results.
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Genetic pre-dispositioon to 0% bodyfat.
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In this video I found this statement which I've never heard before. And never heard a bodybuilder experiencing. Is this really the case?
I quote from the video;
artifical testosterone docked on to receptors of the muscles and instructed the production of proteins which thickens the muscle walls((I guess thickening the muscle fascia?), blood vessles got restrained couldn't withstand bloodpressure and ruptured.
is this really a condition? thickning fascia? never heard of it.
Personally I think his kidneys where just failing acutely and that made his blood pressure race super high and in turn caused blood vessles rupture and internal bleeding. I don't think the theory they have of thickening muscle fascia is true. More likely just acute kidney failure due to whatever drugs abused. Maybe mostly because of diuretics but who knows
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In this video I found this statement which I've never heard before. And never heard a bodybuilder experiencing. Is this really the case?
I quote from the video;
is this really a condition? thickning fascia? never heard of it.
Personally I think his kidneys where just failing acutely and that made his blood pressure race super high and in turn caused blood vessles rupture and internal bleeding. I don't think the theory they have of thickening muscle fascia is true. More likely just acute kidney failure due to whatever drugs abused. Maybe mostly because of diuretics but who knows
FYI:
Austrian bodybuilder Andreas Münzer died on March 14, 1996, at age 31, due to dystrophic multiple organ failure following severe stomach bleeding, largely attributed to extreme abuse of diuretics, anabolic steroids, and other stimulants. His autopsy revealed nearly 0% body fat, a failing liver with tumors, and severe cardiac hypertrophy (heart weighing 636g).
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Autopsy Report and Findings
The autopsy, which highlighted the devastating toll of his drug regimen, revealed:
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Liver: Numerous large tumors (some the size of table tennis balls) were present, with half the liver reduced to a crumbly, polystyrene-like mass.
Heart: Cardiac hypertrophy was present, with his heart weighing 636g, significantly higher than the average man's 300–350g.
Other findings: Shriveled testes, severe dehydration, extremely high potassium levels, and acute toxicity, with traces of roughly 20 different drugs.
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Cause of Death
Cause: Dystrophic multiple organ failure.
Contributing Factors: Years of alleged, excessive use of anabolic steroids and potassium-sparing diuretics to maintain near-zero body fat.
Final Days: After months of stomach pain, he was hospitalized on March 12, 1996. Surgery revealed ruptured blood vessels in his stomach; his liver and kidneys failed shortly after.
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Münzer was famous for his incredibly dry, striated physique, but the same methods that brought him success on stage ultimately caused his death, making him a cautionary figure in professional bodybuilding.
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Dude had some awesome legs.
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FYI:
Austrian bodybuilder Andreas Münzer died on March 14, 1996, at age 31, due to dystrophic multiple organ failure following severe stomach bleeding, largely attributed to extreme abuse of diuretics, anabolic steroids, and other stimulants. His autopsy revealed nearly 0% body fat, a failing liver with tumors, and severe cardiac hypertrophy (heart weighing 636g).
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Autopsy Report and Findings
The autopsy, which highlighted the devastating toll of his drug regimen, revealed:
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Liver: Numerous large tumors (some the size of table tennis balls) were present, with half the liver reduced to a crumbly, polystyrene-like mass.
Heart: Cardiac hypertrophy was present, with his heart weighing 636g, significantly higher than the average man's 300–350g.
Other findings: Shriveled testes, severe dehydration, extremely high potassium levels, and acute toxicity, with traces of roughly 20 different drugs.
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Cause of Death
Cause: Dystrophic multiple organ failure.
Contributing Factors: Years of alleged, excessive use of anabolic steroids and potassium-sparing diuretics to maintain near-zero body fat.
Final Days: After months of stomach pain, he was hospitalized on March 12, 1996. Surgery revealed ruptured blood vessels in his stomach; his liver and kidneys failed shortly after.
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Münzer was famous for his incredibly dry, striated physique, but the same methods that brought him success on stage ultimately caused his death, making him a cautionary figure in professional bodybuilding.
Yes, we have all seen this
But the video mentioned something new, which was not in the autopsy report.
this part "artifical testosterone docked on to receptors of the muscles and instructed the production of proteins which thickens the muscle walls"
which I think is balonie/made up
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Who knows if he was drinking heavily while on cycle too. That was never noted, but it seems like it would account for the condition of his liver.
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Who knows if he was drinking heavily while on cycle too. That was never noted, but it seems like it would account for the condition of his liver.
I don't think so. I couldn't imagine him achieving his conditioning (that is among the best ever) drinking alcohol
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I don't think so. I couldn't imagine him achieving his conditioning (that is among the best ever) drinking alcohol
I don't know... Ronnie has said many times that Levrone got him to drinking vodka during prep and a good bit the night before prejudging to get into shape.
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I don't know... Ronnie has said many times that Levrone got him to drinking vodka during prep and a good bit the night before prejudging to get into shape.
few cl of wiskey night before the competition... not the same thing as an alcoholic causing liver failure from drinking every day
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few cl of wiskey night before the competition... not the same thing as an alcoholic causing liver failure from drinking every day
Maybe he was an alcoholic. Who knows? I'm just saying that it is possible that something other than what he was taking contributed to that. Diuretics usually result in kidney issues. Alcohol hits the liver. I'm just posting this as a maybe, not as a fact.
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Maybe he was an alcoholic. Who knows? I'm just saying that it is possible that something other than what he was taking contributed to that. Diuretics usually result in kidney issues. Alcohol hits the liver. I'm just posting this as a maybe, not as a fact.
he was taking 20 halotestin tablets a day year round FFS
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he was taking 20 halotestin tablets a day year round FFS
If it were just roids, then half of the pros today would be dropping dead.
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:D
look at this guy...
almost münzer like conditioning...
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Weird - I very rarely talk about bodybuilding in real life, but literally this morning I was reminiscing with a friend about Munzer.
Although I've read the same things as everyone else about tumours etc. that thing about ignoring stomach pain for months has always made me wonder if he'd gone to the doctor would he have caught all this and been able to row it back? ???
All the recent heart attacks - and what happened to Momo back then - are immediate - slower deaths like this and that Derek fella feel more avoidable
Oh well..
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This case reminds me of Dallas Mccarver a bit.
Whatever reason their deaths were attributed to were just one of the many similar problems they both had.
Seems like the plan for this industry is to allow synthol like oils, other injectables, and prosthetics so they stay alive.