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Some people have questioned why a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate would be giving advice on a weightlifter board. Well I did in fact train weights as a younger man. I lied about my age because I didn't want to seem like an old timer. I'm actually 48 not 38. I'm no spring chicken. I have a very slight beer gut. As I said, I'm 6' 255 pounds. Pretty damn impressive for a 48 year old that never touched steroids in his life. I've always had a good base and never really needed to work out very much.
Weight training translates to martial arts very well because obviously it adds to the power of your strikes. Grab a few light weights after you perform a workout and do punches with your shoulders raised. This is good for your deltoids. You'll notice all boxers have powerful deltoids. It's very important for fighting. This sort of activity is also great cardio. Weightlifters should definately learn martial arts. Just think how much more confident you are as a bodybuilder with large muscles. Add the confidence that martial arts brings and you will feel great. Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience. This confidence permeates every aspect of your life. Not just fighting. It's a whole new attitude and it's a responsibility. I'm in a happy place right now. I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life. Jesus gets me through every day and keeps me from doing the wrong thing.
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my self esteem isn't determined by whether or not i think i can beat up anyone near me. i'm sorry you can only be confident based on your potential for winning a streetfight.
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What type of fighting skill will stop a bullet ???
thought so ...
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What type of fighting skill will stop a bullet ???
thought so ...
ever heard that story about a muay thai champion that got shot and now he's some kind of martyr? he t-boned someone at an intersection and got up and "approached the man like a warrior" or some bullshit like that, which no doubt means he ran at him and went to kick the shit out of him, so he got shot and killed and now there's tributes to him on the internet.
i'm sure he was real confident in himself right up until that bullet tore through him.
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ever heard that story about a muay thai champion that got shot and now he's some kind of martyr? he t-boned someone at an intersection and got up and "approached the man like a warrior" or some bullshit like that, which no doubt means he ran at him and went to kick the shit out of him, so he got shot and killed and now there's tributes to him on the internet.
i'm sure he was real confident in himself right up until that bullet tore through him.
SO thats a no
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Some people have questioned why a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate would be giving advice on a weightlifter board. Well I did in fact train weights as a younger man. I lied about my age because I didn't want to seem like an old timer. I'm actually 48 not 38. I'm no spring chicken. I have a very slight beer gut. As I said, I'm 6' 255 pounds. Pretty damn impressive for a 48 year old that never touched steroids in his life. I've always had a good base and never really needed to work out very much.
Weight training translates to martial arts very well because obviously it adds to the power of your strikes. Grab a few light weights after you perform a workout and do punches with your shoulders raised. This is good for your deltoids. You'll notice all boxers have powerful deltoids. It's very important for fighting. This sort of activity is also great cardio. Weightlifters should definately learn martial arts. Just think how much more confident you are as a bodybuilder with large muscles. Add the confidence that martial arts brings and you will feel great. Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience. This confidence permeates every aspect of your life. Not just fighting. It's a whole new attitude and it's a responsibility. I'm in a happy place right now. I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life. Jesus gets me through every day and keeps me from doing the wrong thing.
your profound knowledge has forced me to accept the beliefs you preach. i am going to run with a light set of dumbbells shadow boxing the whole way to the nearest "dojo" and sign up. i will then begin my hunt for jesus.....any suggestions where i could find him?
you my friend have joined the ranks as one of the biggest morons on the internet today. im sure the pierced nose kid behind you didnt do anything to the fat old guy in the bank line because he thought you were a douche bag that probably wears his karate outfit while running errands for his mother. youre delusional at best, your old, fat, and borderline retarded. you think that you have some type of karate "aura" that permeates through your every action....when in reality you are the smelly guy that lives alone with 12 cats and a pet lizard named bruce lee.
i beg of you to commit suicide immediately......
"imposing size"?....the only thing that fears you is a buffet.....
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I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life.
Then don't preach.
In fact, please refrain from evangelism or proselytizing of any kind. The shit being done in your Sky God's name is making my country an increasingly crappy place to live - so I resent having him brought up uninvited.
If my attitude seems hostile - which it is - you can take comfort in the thought that your merciful Jesus will condemn me to an eternity of torture in Hell. Does that make you feel better?
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Some people have questioned why a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate would be giving advice on a weightlifter board. Well I did in fact train weights as a younger man. I lied about my age because I didn't want to seem like an old timer. I'm actually 48 not 38. I'm no spring chicken. I have a very slight beer gut. As I said, I'm 6' 255 pounds. Pretty damn impressive for a 48 year old that never touched steroids in his life. I've always had a good base and never really needed to work out very much.
Weight training translates to martial arts very well because obviously it adds to the power of your strikes. Grab a few light weights after you perform a workout and do punches with your shoulders raised. This is good for your deltoids. You'll notice all boxers have powerful deltoids. It's very important for fighting. This sort of activity is also great cardio. Weightlifters should definately learn martial arts. Just think how much more confident you are as a bodybuilder with large muscles. Add the confidence that martial arts brings and you will feel great. Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience. This confidence permeates every aspect of your life. Not just fighting. It's a whole new attitude and it's a responsibility. I'm in a happy place right now. I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life. Jesus gets me through every day and keeps me from doing the wrong thing.
realkarateblackbelt you ahould be ashamed. Maybe the guy wouldn't do anything because he was polite. You don't know that and to assume he would fight you, is the WRONG reason to learn Martial Arts. He would have no idea you knew Martial Arts unless you wore a shirt saying "I know Karate for real". ::)
And to preach about Jesus and being a christian after all you said makes you a hypocrite. Reflect on everything you've just said.
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Some people have questioned why a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate would be giving advice on a weightlifter board. Well I did in fact train weights as a younger man. I lied about my age because I didn't want to seem like an old timer. I'm actually 48 not 38. I'm no spring chicken. I have a very slight beer gut. As I said, I'm 6' 255 pounds. Pretty damn impressive for a 48 year old that never touched steroids in his life. I've always had a good base and never really needed to work out very much.
Weight training translates to martial arts very well because obviously it adds to the power of your strikes. Grab a few light weights after you perform a workout and do punches with your shoulders raised. This is good for your deltoids. You'll notice all boxers have powerful deltoids. It's very important for fighting. This sort of activity is also great cardio. Weightlifters should definately learn martial arts. Just think how much more confident you are as a bodybuilder with large muscles. Add the confidence that martial arts brings and you will feel great. Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience. This confidence permeates every aspect of your life. Not just fighting. It's a whole new attitude and it's a responsibility. I'm in a happy place right now. I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life. Jesus gets me through every day and keeps me from doing the wrong thing.
This is one of the funniest posts I've read in a while 8)
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realkarateblackbelt you ahould be ashamed. Maybe the guy wouldn't do anything because he was polite. You don't know that and to assume he would fight you, is the WRONG reason to learn Martial Arts. He would have no idea you knew Martial Arts unless you wore a shirt saying "I know Karate for real". ::)
And to preach about Jesus and being a christian after all you said makes you a hypocrite. Reflect on everything you've just said.
I told the bank teller what I do when I went to the window and made sure I was loud and clear, and I looked at him when I said it. Keep in mind this punk also had his left ear pierced. You know what that means. I don't like that kind of person standing so close to me in line.
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I told the bank teller what I do when I went to the window and made sure I was loud and clear, and I looked at him when I said it. Keep in mind this punk also had his left ear pierced. You know what that means. I don't like that kind of person standing so close to me in line.
In other words, you're 48 and you still generalize people as "punks" simply because you see that they've got a few piercings? Lol, you're either a very entertaining gimmick account, or an old idiot of epic proportions
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I told the bank teller what I do when I went to the window and made sure I was loud and clear, and I looked at him when I said it. Keep in mind this punk also had his left ear pierced. You know what that means. I don't like that kind of person standing so close to me in line.
OYAMA
Kyokushin Nijo Kun
1. The Martial Way begins and ends with courtesy. Therefore, be properly and genuinely courteous at all times.
Yeah your a great role model for your Martial Art. So what if you don't like him? Are you assuming he was gay because of a left ear pierce? Was he bothering anyone? Of course at these point you'll make up some story.
Don't make me research and look up all the "rules" you're suppose to follow under your Martial Art. And as a Christian you make a bad role model, if that's your purpose here.
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We had a third dan black belt karate instructor come to our Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy here in Melbourne.
He tapped out under a minute. He got beaten by a white belt.
He never turned up again.
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We had a third dan black belt karate instructor come to our Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy here in Melbourne.
He tapped out under a minute. He got beaten by a white belt.
He never turned up again.
Obviously a standup fighter is not going to win a jui-jitsu match.
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OYAMA
Kyokushin Nijo Kun
1. The Martial Way begins and ends with courtesy. Therefore, be properly and genuinely courteous at all times.
Yeah your a great role model for your Martial Art. So what if you don't like him? Are you assuming he was gay because of a left ear pierce? Was he bothering anyone? Of course at these point you'll make up some story.
Don't make me research and look up all the "rules" you're suppose to follow under your Martial Art. And as a Christian you make a bad role model, if that's your purpose here.
Keep in mind OSF, I would not have done this if he wasn't one of those queer types. You can't find Jesus if you're cornholing guys. He was standing real close behind me in line and we were the only people waiting. When I was growing up that kind of peircing meant one thing.
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You can't find Jesus if you're cornholing guys.
What do you think the Son of Man was doing with those 12 hunky disciples on those cold desert nights? Brokeback Messiah, baby!
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Keep in mind OSF, I would not have done this if he wasn't one of those queer types. You can't find Jesus if you're cornholing guys. He was standing real close behind me in line and we were the only people waiting. When I was growing up that kind of peircing meant one thing.
Having a pierced left ear doesn't mean you're gay. I have a pierced left ear, I'm married going on 8 years and a 2 year old daughter. Common courtesy would have told you to just ask the guy to back up a little. If you were in Japan, they stand extremely close to each other regardless of space behind them.
And for you to be judgemental toward a person before even knowing who or what they believe in, is just another sign of how insecure you are with your own life. Do you pass this kind of nonsense onto to your students? Or are you just a mouthpiece that says something, but does whatever they believe is right in their own mind?
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If you were in Japan, they stand extremely close to each other regardless of space behind them.
I'm sure your not one of those types of people OSF since you are a bodybuilder. I admit I might be a little out of touch with the style of young people from California. But this guy I think he was looking at my ass. I could kind of see him do it at first with my periferal vision. It wasn't just the peirced left ear alone, it was that combined with his overall impression. Do you know what I mean? I know they do that in Japan and I understand because it's a different culture. But here, it's different. It means you might be cruising or something.
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I admit I might be a little out of touch with the style of young people from California. But this guy I think he was looking at my ass.
Oh, have no doubt, sensei. He wanted to devastate that virgin asshole of yours.
But the thought that secretly torments you is that you were just a little curious, weren't you.
It's OK. Jesus died for your sins too.
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Some people have questioned why a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate would be giving advice on a weightlifter board. Well I did in fact train weights as a younger man. I lied about my age because I didn't want to seem like an old timer. I'm actually 48 not 38. I'm no spring chicken. I have a very slight beer gut. As I said, I'm 6' 255 pounds. Pretty damn impressive for a 48 year old that never touched steroids in his life. I've always had a good base and never really needed to work out very much.
Weight training translates to martial arts very well because obviously it adds to the power of your strikes. Grab a few light weights after you perform a workout and do punches with your shoulders raised. This is good for your deltoids. You'll notice all boxers have powerful deltoids. It's very important for fighting. This sort of activity is also great cardio. Weightlifters should definately learn martial arts. Just think how much more confident you are as a bodybuilder with large muscles. Add the confidence that martial arts brings and you will feel great. Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience. This confidence permeates every aspect of your life. Not just fighting. It's a whole new attitude and it's a responsibility. I'm in a happy place right now. I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life. Jesus gets me through every day and keeps me from doing the wrong thing.
hate to burst your bubble, but Karate sucks in real life situations. It was proven to be useless in the first 10 UFC's, so why waste your time on Karate?
If you want to learn somthing practical, study wrestling BJJ, and muay Thai,
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hate to burst your bubble, but Karate sucks in real life situations. It was proven to be useless in the first 10 UFC's, so why waste your time on Karate?
Karate practicioners competed in the first 10 UFCs?
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I'm sure your not one of those types of people OSF since you are a bodybuilder. I admit I might be a little out of touch with the style of young people from California. But this guy I think he was looking at my ass. I could kind of see him do it at first with my periferal vision. It wasn't just the peirced left ear alone, it was that combined with his overall impression. Do you know what I mean? I know they do that in Japan and I understand because it's a different culture. But here, it's different. It means you might be cruising or something.
hahahaha, "realblackbeltcruiser", i'll bet you're the type of guy who goes to the local gym with a bunch of various colored belts and sets up shop in the middle of the gym and then you approach every musclebear in the place and offer them free lessons complete with lizard draining and then tell yourself things to feel better like, "i'm not really a hopeless polesmoker i'm just trying to drum up an impressive clientele", hahahaha, gayer than broccoli.
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I'm sure your not one of those types of people OSF since you are a bodybuilder. I admit I might be a little out of touch with the style of young people from California. But this guy I think he was looking at my ass. I could kind of see him do it at first with my periferal vision. It wasn't just the peirced left ear alone, it was that combined with his overall impression. Do you know what I mean? I know they do that in Japan and I understand because it's a different culture. But here, it's different. It means you might be cruising or something.
Should have been courteous first. If he gave you sh*t for it then you respond in kind. But you were in the wrong.
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Karate practicioners competed in the first 10 UFCs?
yah there were plenty of multiple degree black belts in useless martial arts like Karate, Kung fu, and Tai kwow do. They all got there asses handed to them and the myth of the black belt was debunked, given how anyone with athletic ability and strength can own most karate Black belts in street fights.
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I find the gay stuff to be really offensive. I'm the last person to be gay. If you guys are going to keep calling me that Im not coming back here anymore. I have alot of knowledge to offer as far as martial arts. I earned a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate and I also have built a fantastic physique without the use of drugs that f*&% up your heart.
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yah there were plenty of multiple degree black belts in useless martial arts like Karate, Kung fu, and Tai kwow do. They all got there asses handed to them and the myth of the black belt was debunked, given how anyone with athletic ability and strength can own most karate Black belts in street fights.
Tell that to Andy Hug or Bas Rutten.
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I find the gay stuff to be really offensive. I'm the last person to be gay. If you guys are going to keep calling me that Im not coming back here anymore. I have alot of knowledge to offer as far as martial arts. I earned a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate and I also have built a fantastic physique without the use of drugs that f*&% up your heart.
please don't go black belt. ::)
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Tell that to Andy Hug or Bas Rutten.
Bas Rutten has most of his wins by submission you tool, if you know anything about his career, he knew the ground game was the essence and worked his ass of to perfect it.
Oh and how many MMA wins does your hero Andy Hug have?
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I find the gay stuff to be really offensive. I'm the last person to be gay. If you guys are going to keep calling me that Im not coming back here anymore. I have alot of knowledge to offer as far as martial arts. I earned a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate and I also have built a fantastic physique without the use of drugs that f*&% up your heart.
You trusting fool. Don't you see it's that fantastic physique of yours that is drawing those man-lovers to scope out those taut glistening buttocks of yours and lick their lips over the fleshy paradise within?
Sure, you could give up your "impressive size" to make yourself (relatively) pervert-safe. But what example would such meekness set for other young Christians.
No!
STRIKE FIRST! STRIKE HARD! NO MERCY SIR!
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Bas Rutten has most of his wins by submission you tool, if you know anything about his career, he knew the ground game was the essence and worked his ass of to perfect it.
Oh and how many MMA wins does your hero Andy Hug have?
He was the K-1 champion. It's standup MMA.
Bas record is
Wins 27
By knockout 11
By submission 13
Losses 4
Draws 1
If by "most" you mean 2 more wins by submission you are correct.
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Bas Rutten martial arts background also centered around kickboxing/muay thai, NOT karate.
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nothing wrong with stand up but if you aint got a grappling backround whether its judo,sambo,wrestling or jiu jitsu your pretty much fucke$ if you get taken down to the pavement,the ufc and pride has proved this many times over as well as real street fights also proved this
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Bas Rutten is a bad ass in knockout and submissions that dude is a fuckin' animal.
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He was the K-1 champion. It's standup MMA.
Bas record is
Wins 27
By knockout 11
By submission 13
Losses 4
Draws 1
K1 is not a street fight, again let me reiterate what GracieBJJ said, if you have no ground game you are fucked, periode. and Muay Thai and boxing are much more efficient in stand up than Karate.
If by "most" you mean 2 more wins by submission you are correct.
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Bas Rutten martial arts background also centered around kickboxing/muay thai, NOT karate.
"Sebastian (Bas) Rutten (February 24, 1965 -) is a retired Dutch mixed martial arts fighter. He was a three time Undefeated Pancrase champion and a former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Heavyweight Champion. He is a Certified MTBN Thai Boxing Instructor and Pancrase Instructor. He is a 3rd Degree Black Belt in Kyokushin and a 2nd Degree Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do. He is the founder of "The Bas Rutten System" and the author of various martial art books and videos.
At the age of 20 he started competing in Thai boxing although he credits kyokushin karate as the base of his striking skills.[" from WIKI
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I find the gay stuff to be really offensive. I'm the last person to be gay. If you guys are going to keep calling me that Im not coming back here anymore. I have alot of knowledge to offer as far as martial arts. I earned a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate and I also have built a fantastic physique without the use of drugs that f*&% up your heart.
So what you find offensive should be taken as law? As far as knowledge who cares? People could care less about "your knowledge" when you have the attitude that you are above other people you don't find fitting into your world. I'm sure I have a better physique than you with no drugs, no Karate, and a great attitude towards everyone.
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Kyokushin Karate has done very well in K-1. I think one time they had a K-1 event of Kyokushin vs Muay Thai and the Karate guys won.
Nothing wrong as a bodybuilder to do some jiu jitsu/ boxing/ wrestling once in a while. Could do that instead of cardio maybe.
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Mussolini(Why would you choose that name I don't know)
Pride and UFC is biased against standup fighters. Most of the standup fighter's weapons are taken away in these competitions. Especially the UFC. They are not allowed to elbow, headbutt, eye gouge, kick on the ground, foot stomp, etc. It's biased.
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Kyokushin Karate has done very well in K-1. I think one time they had a K-1 event of Kyokushin vs Muay Thai and the Karate guys won.
Nothing wrong as a bodybuilder to do some jiu jitsu/ boxing/ wrestling once in a while. Could do that instead of cardio maybe.
I agree Dorian. Some "mall Karate" is stupid because they do endless kata, but Kyokushin is true to the original karate way. They usually train full-contact. They don't do point fighting.
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realkarateblackbelt!!!!!!!!! i challenge you to a game of horseshoes......a game of Horseshoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So what you find offensive should be taken as law? As far as knowledge who cares? People could care less about "your knowledge" when you have the attitude that you are above other people you don't find fitting into your world. I'm sure I have a better physique than you with no drugs, no Karate, and a great attitude towards everyone.
I'm not above anyone unless they are sining against god. Would god want someone to cornhole another guy? Jesus would not approve of it. I used to sin myself, I'm sure we all have, but I've found Jesus Christ in AA and I've turned a new lead in life.
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Mussolini(Why would you choose that name I don't know)
Pride and UFC is biased against standup fighters. Most of the standup fighter's weapons are taken away in these competitions. Especially the UFC. They are not allowed to elbow, headbutt, eye gouge, kick on the ground, foot stomp, etc. It's biased.
Dude with all due respect, the headbutt and elbows effected the ground and pound fighter more than anyone.
Mark Coleman, and Mark Kerr (both amazing wrestlers) were so dominant with elbows and headbutts on the ground the UFC outlawed them,
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Dude with all due respect, the headbutt and elbows effected the ground and pound fighter more than anyone.
Mark Coleman, and Mark Kerr (both amazing wrestlers) were so dominant with elbows and headbutts on the ground the UFC outlawed them,
Ground and pound is a tactic that can be employed by any striker.
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someone dig out that clip where a gracie fights that karate black belt dude and breaks the karate dudes arm in about 1 minute,im not making fun of karate but rather telling the reality of it all.even though i dont practice karate im not going to say its totally useless,im sure there are acouple kicks or so that can be added to an already good mixed martial artist game,thats why we call it mixed martial arts after all,taking alittle of each art and blending it into a effective fighting style
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Dude with all due respect, the headbutt and elbows effected the ground and pound fighter more than anyone.
Mark Coleman, and Mark Kerr (both amazing wrestlers) were so dominant with elbows and headbutts on the ground the UFC outlawed them,
Kerr was a beast, i'd love to see him make a comeback.
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someone dig out that clip where a gracie fights that karate black belt dude and breaks the karate dudes arm in about 1 minute,im not making fun of karate but rather telling the reality of it all.even though i dont practice karate im not going to say its totally useless,im sure there are acouple kicks or so that can be added to an already good mixed martial artist game,thats why we call it mixed martial arts after all,taking alittle of each art and blending it into a effective fighting style
Why do you assume I believe people shouldn't train ground? Although Lidell is handling himself well against all the grapplers.
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Ground and pound is a tactic that can be employed by any striker.
Ok man, anyone who has even minimal knowledge of MMA knows G n P is used and dominated by wrestlers. Save your breath and please dont even try to argue this, Mark COlmean coined the phrase, and like I said, IM not even going to argue this with you as you have 0 mma knowledge to even insinsuate that strikers use GnP.
Bottom line, to be good at MMA you need wrestling/BJJ, boxing Muay Thai
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I'm not above anyone unless they are sining against god. Would god want someone to cornhole another guy? Jesus would not approve of it. I used to sin myself, I'm sure we all have, but I've found Jesus Christ in AA and I've turned a new lead in life.
Well then you would be against most of the world population! I think that just because you went to AA meetings and found "GOD" you are under the impression that you have solved your issues. Sorry bro, but you have attitude issues that you still have to deal with.
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Ok man, anyone who has even minimal knowledge of MMA knows G n P is used and dominated by wrestlers. Do even try to argue this, Mark COlmean coined the phrase, and like I said, IM not even going to argue this with you as you have 0 mma knowledge to even insinsuate that strikers use GnP.
Strikers can't elbow and headbutt people on the ground? I was not aware of this. You sound like you know everything Mussolini.
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Why do you assume I believe people shouldn't train ground? Although Lidell is handling himself well against all the grapplers.
Lidell is also a division one wrestler, so he know that part of the game to.
Sure he beat Randy when Randy was 42, but at the age of 40 Randy still handed him his ass.
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ground and pound is a tactic that can be used by any striker
i disagree,you do understand that it takes alot of technique to mount someone while trying to rain down effective strikes,trust me,if you tried to mount aguy that has some grappling backround you we be swept in a second,whether its side mount or full mount you must have a basic grappling backround to understand position and balance before anything,not counting gnp
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Well then you would be against most of the world population! I think that just because you went to AA meetings and found "GOD" you are under the impression that you have solved your issues. Sorry bro, but you attitude issues that you still have to deal with.
I hear where your coming from bro, but I think as a Christian you would agree if you saw how gay this guy looked. He wad even wearing a chain that hung down to his knees and it was attached to his wallet. I don't think they should let people in the bank with chains. The chinese triads use chains for weapons.
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Bas Rutten is a bad ass in knockout and submissions that dude is a fuckin' animal.
Bas Rutten would make me poopp my pants...bas ass fighter..killer instinct so profound.
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Strikers can't elbow and headbutt people on the ground? I was not aware of this. You sound like you know everything Mussolini.
I am well versed in MMA knowledge as it is my favorite sport.
In Pride, you can kick and knee a downed opponent, but know elbows or headbutts. In UFC, you can elbow a downed opponent, but no kicks or knees.
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Bas Rutten would make me poopp my pants...bas ass fighter..killer instinct so profound.
the dude just looks like a psycho and when you combine that insanity with his skills, watch out.
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ground and pound is a tactic that can be used by any striker
i disagree,you do understand that it takes alot of technique to mount someone while trying to rain down effective strikes,trust me,if you tried to mount aguy that has some grappling backround you we be swept in a second,whether its side mount or full mount you must have a basic grappling backround to understand position and balance before anything,not counting gnp
It doesn't take a wrestling background to punch someone to the ground, jump on them and continue to punch/headbutt/elbow/stomp them untill they are KOd. It does help though. That's why the UFC is biased against strikers. It kind of makes sense because there would be to many serious injuries otherwise. In Pride or Vale Tude with their more liberal rules, strikers like Silva and Cro Crop dominate.
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I hear where your coming from bro, but I think as a Christian you would agree if you saw how gay this guy looked. He wad even wearing a chain that hung down to his knees and it was attached to his wallet. I don't think they should let people in the bank with chains. The chinese triads use chains for weapons.
Bro, from the way you sound right now, I would think you're back on the sauce!
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It doesn't take a wrestling background to punch someone to the ground, jump on them and continue to punch/headbutt/elbow/stomp them untill they are KOd. It does help though. That's why the UFC is biased against strikers. It kind of makes sense because there would be to many serious injuries otherwise. In Pride or Vale Tude with their more liberal rules, strikers like Silva and Cro Crop dominate.
Cro Cop dominates because he has a sprawl that is on par with an olympic wrestlers. Silve has trouble with wrestlers, as seen with Arona, but he does dominate Japanese "cans" whom he outweighs by 30 lbs.
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mussolini your beating me answering all the questions,lol,you must be on the underground alot like me ;)
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mussolini your beating me answering all the questions,lol,you must be on the underground alot like me ;)
Oh yah buddy, I wrestled through highschool and UNi, and have been working on my BJJ for over two years now.
BJJ and wrestler together is the best mix IMO
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Cro Cop dominates because he has a sprawl that is on par with an olympic wrestlers. Silve has trouble with wrestlers, as seen with Arona, but he does dominate Japanese can whom he outweighs by 30 lbs.
He dominates because he knocks people out simple as that.
Alot of Japanese fighters are small, but not all of them. There are some big ones. They are usually quite skilled too. The talent in Pride is better than UFC.
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He dominates because he knocks people out simple as that.
Alot of Japanese fighters are small, but not all of them. There are some big ones. They are usually quite skilled too. The talent in Pride is better than UFC.
I do agree with your post man, Pride owns UFC, but the reason Cro Cop is able to keep his fights standing is because of his wrestling ability, same as Chuck. People forget that Chuck Lidells is a division one wrestlers.
I think it is the man more so than the art though, that is the main factor.
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Bro, from the way you sound right now, I would think you're back on the sauce!
I don't think I'll be coming back. It was fun answering your questions. I was glad to share my knowledge as a black belt in Karate. There's a general lack of respect on this board combined with blatant blasphemy and alot of homosexual talk that makes me sick to my stomach.
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I don't think I'll be coming back. It was fun answering your questions. I was glad to share my knowledge as a black belt in Karate. There's a general lack of respect on this board combined with blatant blasphemy and alot of homosexual talk that makes me sick to my stomach.
Bye! Thanks for the "knowledge".
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I think it is the man more so than the art though, that is the main factor.
I agree completely. Like anything else, if you have no inclination whatsoever you are hopless. Don't run track if you're 500 pounds. I don't have any ground training background but I know it's very important. Just remember though, standup fighters are fighting with a handicap in the UFC and Pride to a lesser extent.
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silva and cro cop spend just as much time on the ground training as they do standing up,its just a fact.ill repeat it again,you cant do well in mma or street fighting if you dont have ground experiance,lets put it this way,id take a division 1 wrestler who cant strike to save his life against a 1000 degree blackbelt in karate who cant fight on the ground to save his life and ill guarantee the wrestler will maul the hell out of the karate dude in the cage or street
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I don't think I'll be coming back. It was fun answering your questions. I was glad to share my knowledge as a black belt in Karate. There's a general lack of respect on this board combined with blatant blasphemy and alot of homosexual talk that makes me sick to my stomach.
Yah. you will be sorrowly missed. Im sorry I had to bring to light the fact that your black belt in Karate is utterly uselss in the real world and in any street fight. but I guess it might be good exercise.
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silva and cro cop spend just as much time on the ground training as they do standing up,its just a fact.ill repeat it again,you cant do well in mma or street fighting if you dont have ground experiance,lets put it this way,id take a division 1 wrestler who cant strike to save his life against a 1000 degree blackbelt in karate who cant fight on the ground to save his life and ill guarantee the wrestler will maul the hell out of the karate dude in the cage or street
Can the Karate fighter gouge the eyes or strike the genitals?
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Yah. you will be sorrowly missed. Im sorry I had to bring to light the fact that your black belt in Karate is utterly uselss in the real world and in any street fight. but I guess it might be good exercise.
I've been in street fights and knocked people out cold. I was minding my own business and someone tried to mug me. Dropped him like a sack of potatoes.
Like I said, tell that to Andy Hug or Bas. Tell them Karate is useless in the real world.
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Can the Karate fighter gouge the eyes or strike the genitals?
They could in the first UFC's and they still got owned. a wrestler would simply take them down and have there way with them
With eye gouging and ball striked the Karate fighters would get killed even worse than they were already
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I've been in street fights and knocked people out cold. I was minding my own business and someone tried to mug me. Dropped him like a sack of potatoes.
Like I said, tell that to Andy Hug or Bas. Tell them Karate is useless in the real world.
will you be my friend?
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They could in the first UFC's and they still got owned. a wrestler would simply take them down and have there way with them
With eye gouging and ball striked the Karate fighters would get killed even worse than they were already
Eye gouging and biting were both illegal in the first UFC.
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I've been in street fights and knocked people out cold. I was minding my own business and someone tried to mug me. Dropped him like a sack of potatoes.
Like I said, tell that to Andy Hug or Bas. Tell them Karate is useless in the real world.
I gladly would and I would fight any karate Black belt at any time and anwhere without even a thought that I had the slightest chance of loosing.
News flash, Bas was taught at golden glory fight club in Holland which is a kickboxing/muat Thai school, he is also well rounded and versed in subs.
Andy Hug would get owned by any BJJ blue belt or wrestler in a street fight.
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I thought he was leaving already?
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will you be my friend?
You haven't called me gay or anything right? If not sure!
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Eye gouging and biting were both illegal in the first UFC.
Actualy, only biting was, eye gouging and ball shots were perfectly legal
Watch Joe Son vs Keith Hackney if you dont believe me
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I gladly would and I would fight any karate Black belt at any time and anwhere without even a thought that I had the slightest chance of loosing.
News flash, Bas was taught at golden glory fight club in Holland which is a kickboxing/muat Thai school, he is also well rounded and versed in subs.
Andy Hug would get owned by any BJJ blue belt or wrestler in a street fight.
Yeah I'm sure you would own Andy Hug.
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Actualy, only biting was, eye gouging and ball shots were perfectly legal
Watch Joe Son vs Keith Hackney if you dont believe me
Eye gouging was not legal in the first ufc. Look it up.
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I would, he's dead.
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Yeah I'm sure you would own Andy Hug.
Im sure I would too, I would take his ass down in the first 5 seconds, like any wrestler would, and he would be a fish out of water, then I would proceed to put my fists and elbows through the back of his head.
It would be the exact same thing that happened to all Karate fighters when they fought a wrestler or BJJ guy,
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Im sure I would too, I would take his ass down in the first 5 seconds, like any wrestler would, and he would be a fish out of water, then I would proceed to put my fists and elbows through the back of his head.
Andy Hug would beat you senseless.
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Andy Hug would beat you senseless.
In a K1 fight, your right, im sure he would.
In a wrestling match or MMA fight, I would win easily.
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Goodbye everyone. I'm leaving.
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Goodbye everyone. I'm leaving.
You will be sorrowly missed ::), thanks for enlightening us with all your karate black belt knowledge.
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Goodbye everyone. I'm leaving.
see ya, polesmoker.
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Is he really leaving? Must be time for an AA meeting.
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That dude is one insecure tool.
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I don't think I'll be coming back.
Quit teasing us and leave, already.
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Bas Rutten is great, but he's no Bob Sapp. Who else joins K-1 and never kicks?
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ok. rearblackbelt karate, you say that you are 48, shouldnt you be doing SOMETHING ELSE other than posting karate stories on a bodybuilding board? like spending time with your kids, wife, or whatever NORMAL 48 yr. olds do?
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Wow!!This guy is the most insecure person of anyone i've ever seen posting on any message board anywhere.If this gentleman (loosely used) is 48 yrs old then i'm still passing through the birth canal!
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realkarateblackbelt still on and just posted this:
I used to live the gay lifestyle until I found Jesus Christ. Now I am a straight man.When you put these pictures up you are actively encouraging homosexuality.
OMG! So he was gay and now he found Jesus Christ and hates gays! This dudes a loon!
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this guy reminds me of the Phil Hendrie show. hahhha
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Some people have questioned why a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate would be giving advice on a weightlifter board. Well I did in fact train weights as a younger man. I lied about my age because I didn't want to seem like an old timer. I'm actually 48 not 38. I'm no spring chicken. I have a very slight beer gut. As I said, I'm 6' 255 pounds. Pretty damn impressive for a 48 year old that never touched steroids in his life. I've always had a good base and never really needed to work out very much.
That's your problem. You think you are impressive, but that happens only in your mind. To anybody else you are just another old fart. I know, I am 47 myself. I don't have any illusion about my look, it doesn't mean anything to me. I am 178cm and weight 117 kilos, my body fat is around 12-15%, so I don't have a beer belly. I have black belt too, one from judo(I dan), one from Koryu Uchinadi-karate (III dan) one from Ki-aikido(Nidan II- dan), that's not a big deal. For this age, you have plenty of time to hang around. Point is this; If we put you in to perspective, you are nothing. Just another old fart with an attitude. Try to live with that.
Weight training translates to martial arts very well because obviously it adds to the power of your strikes. Grab a few light weights after you perform a workout and do punches with your shoulders raised. This is good for your deltoids. You'll notice all boxers have powerful deltoids. It's very important for fighting. This sort of activity is also great cardio. Weightlifters should definately learn martial arts. Just think how much more confident you are as a bodybuilder with large muscles. Add the confidence that martial arts brings and you will feel great.
Only major improvement which I have been able to bring from martial arts to weight lifting is flexibility. On another way around benefits are clear; I have more weight and more power. If I do Kokyu-nage with full power, I can send uke to orbit...but there isn't anything new about that. It is common knowledge, so what is your point? There isn't any.
Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience. This confidence permeates every aspect of your life. Not just fighting. It's a whole new attitude and it's a responsibility. I'm in a happy place right now. I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life. Jesus gets me through every day and keeps me from doing the wrong thing.
What he should be doing while waiting in line in the bank. F*uck you in the ass? Beat the hell out of you, because you are standing in front of him in line? Did you really scare in there? You have train karate because you are afraid that some pierced punk rape you in the bank? You hate people which you don't know, you call them punks, you are afraid of them. You imagine yourself to beat a living shit out from that pierced punk, and you get a "hard-on" from that. You are mentally sick, uncertain homophobic and you are just plain hypocritical when you talk about Jesus. You are just full of shit. ;D ::) ;D
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This real black belt guy... Great gimmick account.
YIP
Zack
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that was a strange thread made by that karate guy
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I told the bank teller what I do when I went to the window and made sure I was loud and clear, and I looked at him when I said it. Keep in mind this punk also had his left ear pierced. You know what that means. I don't like that kind of person standing so close to me in line.
Who cares how many piercings the guy had?
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Keep in mind OSF, I would not have done this if he wasn't one of those queer types. You can't find Jesus if you're cornholing guys. He was standing real close behind me in line and we were the only people waiting. When I was growing up that kind of peircing meant one thing.
Your just digging yourself a deeper hole with your generalizations.
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Karate practicioners competed in the first 10 UFCs?
Yes, lots of tae kwondo guys got the shit beat out of them.
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Tell that to Andy Hug or Bas Rutten.
Big difference, Bas has strong take down skills and is a REAL fighter. Not some guy who just got his black belt by showing up class after class like you.
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I've been in street fights and knocked people out cold. I was minding my own business and someone tried to mug me. Dropped him like a sack of potatoes.
Yeah, sure. ::)
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Actualy, only biting was, eye gouging and ball shots were perfectly legal
Watch Joe Son vs Keith Hackney if you dont believe me
Joe Son took some serious shots to the balls. Remember him carrying the cross?
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Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience.
LMAO
Most ridiculous post in a month. A 48 year old bragging about keeping lil punks in line with his Ka-Ra-Tey-Skillz.
Maybe he was just standing in line, like everybody else, ever considered that?
Guess what, today i went into a supermarket, and i wans'nt attacked at all because everybody saw my fighting skills and my impressive physique!
And no, there is no way all the other people just wanted to shop, like me, they wanted to fight and were just scared off!
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I will share a little story about teh effectiveness of karate...a couple of years ago I got bitten by the martial arts bug so I decided to try a karate class (it was free to try) so I go there and they have us sparring but not hitting...I'm lost obviously being my first time...anyways this guy with a black belt decides to do some spinning kick thing out of nowhere. Luckily I saw it coming and moved in time or he woulda hit me right in the head. So anyways to make a long story short i snapped just lunged at him and basically pancaked blocked him (it was instinct...played guard in football) and once on the ground gave him a few shots and put him in a choke hold until teh instructor broke it up. Now this guy was suppossed to be a black belt and here is me just some guy that lifts weights and I am throwing him around and he is helpless just because I got hold of him? Talk about useless.
And I'm not saying I am a tough guy who scraps alot, just that karate is not effective in teh real world...oh and I was told not to come back ::)
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Some people have questioned why a second degree black belt in Shotokan Karate would be giving advice on a weightlifter board. Well I did in fact train weights as a younger man. I lied about my age because I didn't want to seem like an old timer. I'm actually 48 not 38. I'm no spring chicken. I have a very slight beer gut. As I said, I'm 6' 255 pounds. Pretty damn impressive for a 48 year old that never touched steroids in his life.
No, actually it's pretty typcial for a 6' fat guy who doesn't have the discipline to loose the gut.
I've always had a good base and never really needed to work out very much.
Now you are begining to understand why you're just lazy fat guy, and a dime a dozen.
Weight training translates to martial arts very well because obviously it adds to the power of your strikes. Grab a few light weights after you perform a workout and do punches with your shoulders raised. This is good for your deltoids. You'll notice all boxers have powerful deltoids. It's very important for fighting. This sort of activity is also great cardio. Weightlifters should definately learn martial arts. Just think how much more confident you are as a bodybuilder with large muscles. Add the confidence that martial arts brings and you will feel great. Today I was standing in line at the bank and I waited a long time before moving to the teller because I knew the guy behind me(a young guy with a peirced nose) wouldn't do anything because of my imposing size combined with my karate experience. This confidence permeates every aspect of your life. Not just fighting. It's a whole new attitude and it's a responsibility.
So you basically walk around acting like a cocky prick and calling yourself confident right? (rhetorical question)
I'm in a happy place right now. I don't want to preach, but it helps if you have Jesus in your life. Jesus gets me through every day and keeps me from doing the wrong thing.
Jesus said, hate the sin and love the sinner.
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Joe Son took some serious shots to the balls. Remember him carrying the cross?
i bought joe sons thong on ebay and wear it to the gym on leg days
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