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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bic_staedtler on June 18, 2006, 10:40:47 PM
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Dudes, I was thinkin bout how much I love the friggin arches every now and then...and while I don't buy all the Supersize Me hype, I do wonder how much you'd have to abuse fast food until you developed type 2 diabetes or some other disease....or massive heart attacks! What do you think...I can say that I've abused fast food at key times and have a clean yearly bill of health. Then again, I exercise and weight train, not sedentary. And shit, I can't tell you how many of my weight lifting buddies CHOW DOWN on fast food...it's almost a sport in itself!
Does anybody have any real stories of the perils of fast food, other than the time they ate 6 Big Macs in 20 minutes? I'd like to hear it.
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I have to think that 2 mcgriddles a week can't be as bad on the heart as the 3-5 pounds of ground beef that many guys eat daily.
In Supersize, the guy ate a lot of healthy food before shocking his body with it. And I think he rarely drank soda... tossing in 3 large Cokes a day out of nowhere will mess anyone up.
IMO, moderation is the best way. I eat out junk one a month, and I eat healthy restaurant food (iguana mia fajitas or boston market chicken), usually twice a week.
And, i think studies show that ppl who eat 1000 calories of 'whatever' will outlive those who eat 3000 healthy calories by quite a few years. so everyone is screwed anyway. cheers!
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I'll have fast food MAYBE once every few months and it's usually In-N-Out burger and then I'm good for a while!
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dude eat until your liver hurts then tell us,in all honesty i don't think anyone could give you a completely scientific backed answer on this topic ;)
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A Big Mac with a cup of Big Mac sauce on the side for dipping
those were the days :-\
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I think it's what you get more then how much.
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A Big Mac with a cup of Big Mac sauce on the side for dipping
those were the days :-\
Shit I can't believe people do that ???
I was behind a guy and he wanted "alot" of extra sauce/
It's thousand island, I just cant see people doing that damn ON A EVERYDAY basis
Fast food is processed food, so eat in moderation it taste great no doubt but it makes you feel so bad afterward slows you down and you have a sluggish feel all the grease and chemicals.
If I have to eat it while watching my eating I have grilled chicken sandwiches and a few burgers without the bun and extra lettuce, both with extra mustard also. When I'm eating for a treat I usually just have more ice cream since I know it's just whipping cream and sugar
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but it makes you feel so bad afterward slows you down and you have a sluggish feel all the grease and chemicals.
I never wanna lose this feeling
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What do you mean by “Supersize Me hype”? The guy was monitored by two physicians throughout his experiment and their results were there for all to see.
Most nutritionist (who don’t work for McDonalds or other fast food companies) agree that fast food should be eaten “rarely to never.” :(
I have it less than once a month.
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so what do you eat instead, a green apple
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No food from home, that you cook yourself. Instead of going to get a fast food burger make your own you will slash the cals in half almost. Going out to eat is no better really whenever you say without sauce or plain they seem to think butter is ok then, when you say no butter they put oil on it, can't win the fight against fat I guess. It's pretty sad to see kids today go crazy if they have to eat healthy food, and can't live without Mc.Donalds, hey at least they offer fruit juice instead of soda in the happy meals today.
If your working out hard and not dieting for a show a whopper and a few big macs to get the calories up is fine, just try to stay away from the fried food pile up on the burgers and other treats they have but the fried food will have a negative effect on you, and screws your system up. In the offseason I have a whopper every other day on top of other sweets I stay away from fried food, and try to avoid really bad processed food like the things you put in the microwave
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i eat fast food everyday 1-4 times a day the diffrence between me and the supersize me guy.....i lift and do cardio im still plump/fat but not as fat as i should be ;D
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i eat fast food everyday 1-4 times a day the diffrence between me and the supersize me guy.....i lift and do cardio im still plump/fat but not as fat as i should be ;D
haha why do you eat it everyday? Just try to eat clean for a week then go back to it, yo yo some but not all the gains.
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haha why do you eat it everyday? Just try to eat clean for a week then go back to it, yo yo some but not all the gains.
its so good
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i eat everyday
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I eat McDonalds about 2-3 times per week. Here is my standard order:
1 Filet O Fish
2 Cheeseburgers
1 Chicken Select Strips
1 Large Fries
2 Cokes (Free Refills!)
1 Hot Fudge Sundae
2 Hot Apple Pies
I am in my 30's. I had my cholestorol checked and it was like 140. All of my other levels were excellent save for my testosterone levels which were similar to those of a 94 year old man. I am also known to eat entire gallons of ice cream in single sittings several times a month and entire 16 oz. containers of Oscar Mayer Beef Bologna in one day (each slice has 3g protein and 12g fat).
Anyone looking for a dietary consultation may call me collect.
Special "Grimace" Ed
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sounds good.
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I eat McDonalds about 2-3 times per week. Here is my standard order:
1 Filet O Fish
2 Cheeseburgers
1 Chicken Select Strips
1 Large Fries
2 Cokes (Free Refills!)
1 Hot Fudge Sundae
2 Hot Apple Pies
I am in my 30's. I had my cholestorol checked and it was like 140. All of my other levels were excellent save for my testosterone levels which were similar to those of a 94 year old man. I am also known to eat entire gallons of ice cream in single sittings several times a month and entire 16 oz. containers of Oscar Mayer Beef Bologna in one day (each slice has 3g protein and 12g fat).
Anyone looking for a dietary consultation may call me collect.
Special "Grimace" Ed
Next time I go for my Sat binge Im going to get the apple pies and ice cream thanks for the idea
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i bet lee would put us all to shame even on his worst day of eating fast food ;)
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I think you should only eat it once a year.
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once every two years, and eat a lot of that good ol toxic tuna instead, or salmonella chicken
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3 big macs/day in the offseason vs. 9 cans of tuna/day in the onseason
obesity vs. mercury poisoning
just can't win :-\
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Food at regular restaurants is a lot better tasting than fastfood. I eat both. When I'm gaining weight I'll eat fastfood or eat at a restaurant daily and average once or twice a week when I'm dieting and choose leaner foods like subway or chicken salad.
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I have to think that 2 mcgriddles a week can't be as bad on the heart as the 3-5 pounds of ground beef that many guys eat daily.
In Supersize, the guy ate a lot of healthy food before shocking his body with it. And I think he rarely drank soda... tossing in 3 large Cokes a day out of nowhere will mess anyone up.
IMO, moderation is the best way. I eat out junk one a month, and I eat healthy restaurant food (iguana mia fajitas or boston market chicken), usually twice a week.
And, i think studies show that ppl who eat 1000 calories of 'whatever' will outlive those who eat 3000 healthy calories by quite a few years. so everyone is screwed anyway. cheers!
You're probably right about Morgan eating clean foods. His wife/partner is a vegan chef ( ::)), so he eats whatever the fuck she wants him to, or he doesn't get any pussy from that skinny no color having bitch!
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I just wonder if anybody had any 'side effects' other than weight gain from eating fast food....stuff that's directly related to the fast food side of things, not the caloric increase side that you could get from eating too much of anything. My recent Big Mac record is 6...yikes, I ain't doing that again...unless the STAKES ARE HIGH (again) ;D.....
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And, i think studies show that ppl who eat 1000 calories of 'whatever' will outlive those who eat 3000 healthy calories by quite a few years. so everyone is screwed anyway. cheers!
I worked on the 2000 Census and was the crew leader responsible for the enumeration of Nursing homes in my area.
I'd say the average age of the residents was over 90, and about 95% of those residents were women who barely weighed 100lbs.
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Here's what everyone misses... eating this shit takes decades to fucck you up, it doesn't happen overnight. Most people here are in their 20's and 30's, and say some shit like, "I eat fast food all the time and I'm healthy and feel great!". Super... talk to me when you're 50, assuming you make it that far.
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Here's what everyone misses... eating this shit takes decades to fucck you up, it doesn't happen overnight. Most people here are in their 20's and 30's, and say some shit like, "I eat fast food all the time and I'm healthy and feel great!". Super... talk to me when you're 50, assuming you make it that far.
Have you had early deaths in your family? Why are you so worried about that?
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Have you had early deaths in your family? Why are you so worried about that?
I'm not "worried", I just don't do stupid shit just because 99% of the people around me are doing it.
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Fast food has no nutritional value other than trans fats and sat fats, and carbs from other than grains ources, your lucky to get 1 gram of fiber with any 5 total combined fast food items. They lack vitamins and the way they are processed makes it hard for your bdy to digest, it pretty much is the opposite of real food and makes the body work harder trying to breakdown longer chains offats and other chemicals....
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A good burger and fries before training usually gives me a good pump and some added strength. Honest
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What kills me is the people who will run from a big mac but yet they will load up a dart with some underground lab made fina or some shit that they know nothing about and then stick it in their ass.
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Here's what everyone misses... eating this shit takes decades to fucck you up, it doesn't happen overnight. Most people here are in their 20's and 30's, and say some shit like, "I eat fast food all the time and I'm healthy and feel great!". Super... talk to me when you're 50, assuming you make it that far.
so what is it in a burger that fucks you up, decades later? is it the meat? the bread? the tomato?
let me know thanks so i can avoid these horrible foods.
and those who ate burgers back in the 50's and 60's i bet they all died in the early 80's. ::)
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so what is it in a burger that fucks you up, decades later? is it the meat? the bread? the tomato?
let me know thanks so i can avoid these horrible foods.
and those who ate burgers back in the 50's and 60's i bet they all died in the early 80's. ::)
it is a conspiracy .
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A good burger and fries before training usually gives me a good pump and some added strength. Honest
it makes me want to take a nap.
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It's in McDonald's best interests to keep their customers alive for as long as possible. My grandfather went there everyday until he was 90. He died on nursing home food when he was 96.
Special "RIP Pop-Pop" Ed
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i bet lee would put us all to shame even on his worst day of eating fast food ;)
I would go up against anybody as far as eating in one sitting.
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Fast food has no nutritional value other than trans fats and sat fats, and carbs from other than grains ources, your lucky to get 1 gram of fiber with any 5 total combined fast food items. They lack vitamins and the way they are processed makes it hard for your bdy to digest, it pretty much is the opposite of real food and makes the body work harder trying to breakdown longer chains offats and other chemicals....
Who cares? One big dump and all the problems are gone. Like magic.
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A good burger and fries before training usually gives me a good pump and some added strength. Honest
I agree. Greasy, fatty, calorie laden foods always helped me gain size and power while eating really clean I always got in great shape but lost size and strength. The greasy stuff always makes me feel satisfied after I eat. While eating clean I always feel empty even right after I eat. I always have cravings while I eat clean. I also have food nightmares that I pigged out on greasy stuff.
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I wouldn't eat any fast food more than once a month dude, seriously.
even though it tastes great, the crap that is in it isn't worht messing up your health
trans fats, refined sugars, low quality beef, white breads. I mean if you are into bodybuilding and what a good physique, I would stay awy from the Fast Food burger joints...try places that serve burgers and fries but that are hea;thy...that use ground sirloin in their burgers and that maybe even bake their fries
just a suggestion 8)
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eat 5 big macs and 3 whoppers evryday and you'll be straight... ;D ;D
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I wouldn't eat any fast food more than once a month dude, seriously.
even though it tastes great, the crap that is in it isn't worht messing up your health
trans fats, refined sugars, low quality beef, white breads. I mean if you are into bodybuilding and what a good physique, I would stay awy from the Fast Food burger joints...try places that serve burgers and fries but that are hea;thy...that use ground sirloin in their burgers and that maybe even bake their fries
just a suggestion 8)
Solid advice.
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eat 5 big macs and 3 whoppers evryday and you'll be straight... ;D ;D
you think anyone, besides Kobayashi and the other competetive eaters, can eat that much?
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Fast food has no nutritional value other than trans fats and sat fats, and carbs from other than grains ources, your lucky to get 1 gram of fiber with any 5 total combined fast food items. They lack vitamins and the way they are processed makes it hard for your bdy to digest, it pretty much is the opposite of real food and makes the body work harder trying to breakdown longer chains offats and other chemicals....
....lol, funny thing is that 6 Big Macs have 21 grams of fiber...so on that side it's not bad....OOPS forgot the mountain of saturated and trans fats....my bad!
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I eat fast food a few times a week(a plain spicy chicken sandwich from McD's is the shit), I usually can't eat a whole thing of fries though, just too much food. Anyway, I never gain weight and always look the same(ripped). I think its people who have huge appetites that are prone to get fat from that shit.
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Shouldn't this fucking thread be on the Food&Supplements board ??? What the f**k has this to do with bodybuilding gossip? >: Fast food is great for mass. Palumbo once remarked, that his best gains, were made when he ate cheeseburgers by the pounds, from a local fast-food joint. The problem is that it's hard on the liver and kidneys. The heart can take pretty large amounts of fat, if it is in a low-carb diet - because the fat is burned for fuel and, hence, doesen't accumulate in the arteries. The liver and kidneys, conversely, just can't take all that trash, for that long.
Eating large amounts of saturated fat is like eating large amounts of simple carbs: it leads to insulin resistence. Although this happens for quite different reasons. Saturated fats, it seem, decrease the ability of insulin to bind to receptors in cells. this, in itself, promotes the release of more insulin, to remove the glucose from the bloodstream. Furthermore, saturated fat destroys B vitamins, increases oxidative stress and the by-products of it's metabolisation, such as ketones, are carcinogenic poisons to living organisms.
Simple carbs are different story, and one which is even worse than the latter. Simple sugars, which are the main source of calories on the American diet, are the main culprit in heart disease, insulin-resistent type II diabetes, obesity and artherosclerosis, due to increasing a process called glycation. By eating simple carbs, you flood your bloodstream with glucose. Since this is directly toxic to the brain, the pancreas releases huge amounts of insulin, to remove it. Due to the emergence character of this removal, the pancreas simply does no release he exact amount necessary. The result is that it releases MORE than the body needs - to make sure the glucose is removed! So, you feel hungry due to this sudden drop in glucose level. nd what is the quickest way to raise the level again? You guessed it: to eat simple carbs. Hence, the poor bastard enters into a never ending cycle of eating sugar to off-set hypoglycemia. Since the body can't use all this glucose at once, it just stores it. With time, the receptors become less and less effecive at processing insulin, eventually resulting in diabetes. In conclusion, simple carbs make you fat and diabetic, FAST!!
But the tragedy is not over. Simple carbs also turn he body acid, because all simple carbs are transfored into several acids during metabolistion. This interferes with the epitelial tissue's ability to absorb nutrients and maintain proper Sodium-Potassium balnce. This is also true for the hair and nails. The end result is dry, "dead", brittle skin, hair and nails. Saturated fats also intefere with the ability of cells to produce superoxide-dismutase, the Human organism's most powerful antioxidant. And finally, the metabolisation of saturated fats, as explained before, produce several toxic poisons in the liver and kidneys, which are released into the bloodstream and reach the skin, giving it spots, discolorations and acne. Therefore, a diet composed of simple carbs and saturated fats make you look dry, brittle, discolored and full of spots and in your skin!
The ideal is to eat a "Paleolithic" diet, composed of lean meats - preferably from wild game, or from animals which are allowed to run around and graze -, leaves, root vegetables, berries and nuts. Carbs should be kept to a minimum and only those with the lowest glycemic indexes should be eaten. Lean meats stabilize blood sugars due to their protein and dramatically decrease hunger, due to their high amount of essential fatty acids. Leaves and root vegetables provide fiber, which aids digestion, and also highly bioavailable phytochemicals and polyphenols. Nuts and berries are terrific, providing enormous amounts of vitamins, natural antioxidants ns unsaturaed fats.
Fruits other than berries are a very special case, which I would like to explain. Fruits are NOT natural; they are the result of genetic experiments to make them taste better...just like candy. Natural fruits, the ones from thousands of years ago, contained only small amounts of simple carbs - glucose and fructose -, which came packed together with fiber, vitamins and phytochemicals. The problem is that wild fruits are not as tasty as modern ones. The modern variety has far more fructose and glucose, with a decreased fiber content and less vitamins, minerals and phytochemicals. Only berries still exist in their natural state, so they're the only ones that should be eaten. Except commercial blueberries, which were genetically enhanced to have tons of simple carbs. Go for wild blueberries, raspberries and strawberries: the closest things there are to 'perfect foods". Hope it helped. :)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I just can't make myself read that whole post suckmymuscle...I am too lazy tonight.....but judging from some of your past posts,I am sure it was a pretty good one. :)
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I didn't know there was a supp and food board, my bad. I slapped it here cause I was looking for good stories about fast food maladies, not to ask how to eat....interesting article, by the way. Although I always find it humourous when people talk about excessive gluscose and carbs being stored as fat (which they do) yet also eat up to 250 grams of protein a day where the majority of it is pissed away (which it is)....while I agree the paleolithic diet makes a lot of sense in many ways, facts are that our modern society has developed far more efficient strategies for feeding us as long as we stick to the good stuff, not the "food science" as I like to call it (fast food, processed food). If paleolithic man could have developed easier access carbs he would have...in fact, that's why our ancestors created that thing called FARMING, where they grew the important carbs they needed to survive. I'm not talking sugar and such, I'm talking corn, rice, and other staple in many civilizations ancient diets.
Anyway, I'm getting off the point...it's interesting to think that Supersize Me, while using McDonalds as it's subject matter, really just points out that if you eat too much you have problems. I don't think it matters WHERE those extra calories come from as much as it is simply the fact that you EAT too much, don't excerise and you're gonna get fat and sick. Plain sense to me!
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my friend said he can eat 3 tripple whoppers. He is kind of a fatass, but that seems impossible. He said he would bet me(how much I don't know). You guys think it can be done?
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Sure it can. I've mowed down 2 doubles and a single with a POUTINE and pop. If you're hungry and focussed (and a bit of an idiot, I admit) it can be done. Those greasy bastards go down pretty quick, especially after training back!
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I forgot to say it had to be done in an hour. I think thats like 3000 calories. It would make most people sick.
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I say take the risk! You only live once! :)
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I say take the risk! You only live once! :)
risk what? 3 tripple whoppers? can't be done.
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I prefer a 1/2 lb thickburger, large fries and chocolate malt with whipped cream. A good 2,400 calories. ;)
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I prefer a 1/2 lb thickburger, large fries and chocolate malt with whipped cream. A good 2,400 calories. ;)
I couldn't eat that much, but I would like to give it a try after a nite of drinking.
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It's soooooooo good. I haven't eaten at Hardee's in a while. :(
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It's soooooooo good. I haven't eaten at Hardee's in a while. :(
we don't have one around here anymore. It was good as a kid, though.
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My weakness is fried seafood... Living in Boston it is all over the place. It is so damn good to. There is this joint called Caswells (spelling?) In Weymouth MA (about 15 min south of downtown Boston. Best frekin food I have ever had. I drive there sometimes when I cheat : ) The place is deep fry seafood heaven lol
Large sirlion burger (bacon, cheese) which is not to bad. but then I get the fried clam strips and onion rings with fries 8)
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You are all going to die in your foties from heart disease, cancer, diabetes and premture ageing. You're all junkies for junk-food. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
P.S - To the thread's starter: you're just looking for excuses to eat trash. Regards.
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You are all going to die in your foties from heart disease, cancer, diabetes and premture ageing. You're all junkies for junk-food. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
P.S - To the thread's starter: you're just looking for excuses to eat trash. Regards.
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You are all going to die in your foties from heart disease, cancer, diabetes and premture ageing. You're all junkies for junk-food. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
P.S - To the thread's starter: you're just looking for excuses to eat trash. Regards.
sorry for the blank post.
Two guarantees in life......death and taxes.
Whether you die from heart disease or being struck by a bus/terrorist/crushed by a weight....
Life is short. live it and enjoy it. Everything in moderation. I will not live my life with regrets. I will eat fast food in moderation. I will workout 4-5x weekly.
My oldest child will be 20 this year. I work at what I love(personal training).
Life is made to be enjoyed.
Sandra
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I forgot to say it had to be done in an hour. I think thats like 3000 calories. It would make most people sick.
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Yes it can be done, I had 2 triple whoppers, the chicken sandwiches with that sesame bun and a large order of onion rings and one of those mud pies..then drove across the street and had jack in the box 10 tacos and a oreo shake, he can do it BK's patties are pre cooked and microwaved then put on a brolier to be heated thatis how they have a soft taste and have lots of grease they are easier to eat. If your going to bet him it should be on milk and sugar...hard to stomach throw in a huge coke before he eatsit or while he eats it willfill his stomach faster.
Anyone try those Hulks from Smoothie King?? butter pecan ice cream...try those for extra cals with PB added
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You are all going to die in your foties from heart disease, cancer, diabetes and premture ageing. You're all junkies for junk-food. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
P.S - To the thread's starter: you're just looking for excuses to eat trash. Regards.
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You are all going to die in your foties from heart disease, cancer, diabetes and premture ageing. You're all junkies for junk-food. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
P.S - To the thread's starter: you're just looking for excuses to eat trash. Regards.
Hey, I know the results of eating too much crap, but since I exercise and weight train and am young I can dodge the fat gain. And due to my clean bill of health, I just asked the question to see what was out there. Of course you're right on with the healthy eating lifestyle, I just wanted to see hear some different opinions. I go through phases, like lots of bodybuilders, where you eat VERY clean and other times where you just go a lil stupid with the fast food. Regards.
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Peeps, those of you that shrug it off as it being no biggie- think again... Hell, a LARGE FF at MCds has like 600 WHOPPING CALORIES..thats not adding the DOUBLE WHOPPER most of you would eat..(well, maybe 2 some folks in here)--- Mcds and BK serious anti bodybuilding man..Quick way to get fat though for some fake before and after pics "I tookk this supplement and I went form this to this!" hahah
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I forgot to say it had to be done in an hour. I think thats like 3000 calories. It would make most people sick.
...well, 6 BigMacs has 3300 cals, I put them away in 20 minutes and I didn't get sick. I admit most couldn't eat that. But it was a CONTEST, so I had to do what I had to do....ha! Although I did feel like shit that night, groggy as hell. 8, 10...who knows what the future might bring...a MASSIVE coronary perhaps?...
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...well, 6 BigMacs has 3300 cals, I put them away in 20 minutes and I didn't get sick. I admit most couldn't eat that. But it was a CONTEST, so I had to do what I had to do....ha! Although I did feel like shit that night, groggy as hell. 8, 10...who knows what the future might bring...a MASSIVE coronary perhaps?...
dude, you need to go to Nathans on the 4th of July, you may be able to beat that little bastard Kobayashi.
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I'll be there.
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I'll be there.
cool, I think you gotta win a qualifier first though. Its not always hotdogs. Its can be chicken wings or something. You should check for competetitions in your area. That would be awesome if you beat Kobayashi, he ate 54.5 a few years back(in 12 minutes).
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I strongly recommend that all of you eat as much fast food as you want, as often as you want. In fact, the more fast food, the better!
On a completely unrelated note, I just invested in a chain of for-profit clinics devoted to treating people with diabeetes, heart disease, and cancer. I sure hope the value of my stock increases!
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Dudes, I was thinkin bout how much I love the friggin arches every now and then...and while I don't buy all the Supersize Me hype, I do wonder how much you'd have to abuse fast food until you developed type 2 diabetes or some other disease....or massive heart attacks! What do you think...I can say that I've abused fast food at key times and have a clean yearly bill of health. Then again, I exercise and weight train, not sedentary. And shit, I can't tell you how many of my weight lifting buddies CHOW DOWN on fast food...it's almost a sport in itself!
Does anybody have any real stories of the perils of fast food, other than the time they ate 6 Big Macs in 20 minutes? I'd like to hear it.
You have to resist at all costs. Don't even start, get it out of your mind.