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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2006, 09:26:46 PM »


And, i think studies show that ppl who eat 1000 calories of 'whatever' will outlive those who eat 3000 healthy calories by quite a few years. so everyone is screwed anyway. cheers!


I worked on the 2000 Census and was the crew leader responsible for the enumeration of Nursing homes in my area.

I'd say the average age of the residents was over 90, and about 95% of those residents were women who barely weighed 100lbs.

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2006, 09:38:41 PM »
Here's what everyone misses... eating this shit takes decades to fucck you up, it doesn't happen overnight.  Most people here are in their 20's and 30's, and say some shit like, "I eat fast food all the time and I'm healthy and feel great!".  Super...  talk to me when you're 50, assuming you make it that far.
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2006, 09:45:01 PM »
Here's what everyone misses... eating this shit takes decades to fucck you up, it doesn't happen overnight.  Most people here are in their 20's and 30's, and say some shit like, "I eat fast food all the time and I'm healthy and feel great!".  Super...  talk to me when you're 50, assuming you make it that far.


Have you had early deaths in your family?  Why are you so worried about that?

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2006, 09:46:48 PM »
Have you had early deaths in your family?  Why are you so worried about that?

I'm not "worried", I just don't do stupid shit just because 99% of the people around me are doing it.
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2006, 09:49:20 PM »
Fast food has no nutritional value other than trans fats and sat fats, and carbs from other than grains ources, your lucky to get 1 gram of fiber with any 5 total combined fast food items. They lack vitamins and the way they are processed makes it hard for your bdy to digest, it pretty much is the opposite of real food and makes the body work harder trying to breakdown longer chains offats and other chemicals....

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2006, 01:54:20 AM »
A good burger and fries before training usually gives me a good pump and some added strength. Honest

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2006, 02:07:26 AM »
  What kills me is the people who will run from a big mac but yet they will load up a dart with some underground lab made fina or some shit that they know nothing about and then stick it in their ass.

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2006, 02:12:05 AM »
Here's what everyone misses... eating this shit takes decades to fucck you up, it doesn't happen overnight.  Most people here are in their 20's and 30's, and say some shit like, "I eat fast food all the time and I'm healthy and feel great!".  Super...  talk to me when you're 50, assuming you make it that far.


so what is it in a burger that fucks you up, decades later? is it the meat? the bread? the tomato?
let me know thanks so i can avoid these horrible foods.
and those who ate burgers back in the 50's and 60's i bet they all died in the early 80's.  ::)
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2006, 02:14:29 AM »
so what is it in a burger that fucks you up, decades later? is it the meat? the bread? the tomato?
let me know thanks so i can avoid these horrible foods.
and those who ate burgers back in the 50's and 60's i bet they all died in the early 80's.  ::)


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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2006, 04:56:13 AM »
A good burger and fries before training usually gives me a good pump and some added strength. Honest

it makes me want to take a nap.
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2006, 08:16:25 AM »
It's in McDonald's best interests to keep their customers alive for as long as possible. My grandfather went there everyday until he was 90. He died on nursing home food when he was 96.

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2006, 08:42:35 AM »
i bet lee would put us all to shame even on his worst day of eating fast food ;)


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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2006, 08:44:32 AM »
Fast food has no nutritional value other than trans fats and sat fats, and carbs from other than grains ources, your lucky to get 1 gram of fiber with any 5 total combined fast food items. They lack vitamins and the way they are processed makes it hard for your bdy to digest, it pretty much is the opposite of real food and makes the body work harder trying to breakdown longer chains offats and other chemicals....

Who cares? One big dump and all the problems are gone. Like magic.
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2006, 08:48:52 AM »
A good burger and fries before training usually gives me a good pump and some added strength. Honest

I agree. Greasy, fatty, calorie laden foods always helped me gain size and power while eating really clean I always got in great shape but lost size and strength. The greasy stuff always makes me feel satisfied after I eat. While eating clean I always feel empty even right after I eat. I always have cravings while I eat clean. I also have food nightmares that I pigged out on greasy stuff.
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2006, 09:06:57 AM »
I wouldn't eat any fast food more than once a month dude, seriously.

even though it tastes great, the crap that is in it isn't worht messing up your health

trans fats, refined sugars, low quality beef, white breads.  I mean if you are into bodybuilding and what a good physique, I would stay awy from the Fast Food burger joints...try places that serve burgers and fries but that are hea;thy...that use ground sirloin in their burgers and that maybe even bake their fries

just a suggestion  8)

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2006, 09:17:25 AM »
eat 5 big macs and 3 whoppers evryday and you'll be straight... ;D ;D
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2006, 09:52:03 AM »
I wouldn't eat any fast food more than once a month dude, seriously.

even though it tastes great, the crap that is in it isn't worht messing up your health

trans fats, refined sugars, low quality beef, white breads.  I mean if you are into bodybuilding and what a good physique, I would stay awy from the Fast Food burger joints...try places that serve burgers and fries but that are hea;thy...that use ground sirloin in their burgers and that maybe even bake their fries

just a suggestion  8)

Solid advice.
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2006, 10:00:19 AM »
eat 5 big macs and 3 whoppers evryday and you'll be straight... ;D ;D
you think anyone, besides Kobayashi and the other competetive eaters, can eat that much?
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2006, 05:27:40 PM »
Fast food has no nutritional value other than trans fats and sat fats, and carbs from other than grains ources, your lucky to get 1 gram of fiber with any 5 total combined fast food items. They lack vitamins and the way they are processed makes it hard for your bdy to digest, it pretty much is the opposite of real food and makes the body work harder trying to breakdown longer chains offats and other chemicals....

....lol, funny thing is that 6 Big Macs have 21 grams of fiber...so on that side it's not bad....OOPS forgot the mountain of saturated and trans fats....my bad!

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2006, 05:32:05 PM »
I eat fast food a few times a week(a plain spicy chicken sandwich from McD's is the shit), I usually can't eat a whole thing of fries though, just too much food. Anyway, I never gain weight and always look the same(ripped). I think its people who have huge appetites that are prone to get fat from that shit.
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2006, 12:05:40 AM »
  Shouldn't this fucking thread be on the Food&Supplements board ??? What the f**k has this to do with bodybuilding gossip? >: Fast food is great for mass. Palumbo once remarked, that his best gains, were made when he ate cheeseburgers by the pounds, from a local fast-food joint. The problem is that it's hard on the liver and kidneys. The heart can take pretty large amounts of fat, if it is in a low-carb diet - because the fat is burned for fuel and, hence, doesen't accumulate in the arteries. The liver and kidneys, conversely, just can't take all that trash, for that long.

  Eating large amounts of saturated fat is like eating large amounts of simple carbs: it leads to insulin resistence. Although this happens for quite different reasons. Saturated fats, it seem, decrease the ability of insulin to bind to receptors in cells. this, in itself, promotes the release of more insulin, to remove the glucose from the bloodstream. Furthermore, saturated fat destroys B vitamins, increases oxidative stress and the by-products of it's metabolisation, such as ketones, are carcinogenic poisons to living organisms.

  Simple carbs are  different story, and one which is even worse than the latter. Simple sugars, which are the main source of calories on the American diet, are the main culprit in heart disease, insulin-resistent type II diabetes, obesity and artherosclerosis, due to increasing a process called glycation. By eating simple carbs, you flood your bloodstream with glucose. Since this is directly toxic to the brain, the pancreas releases huge amounts of insulin, to remove it. Due to the emergence character of this removal, the pancreas simply does no release he exact amount necessary. The result is that it releases MORE than the body needs - to make sure the glucose is removed! So, you feel hungry due to this sudden drop in glucose level. nd what is the quickest way to raise the level again? You guessed it: to eat simple carbs. Hence, the poor bastard enters into a never ending cycle of eating sugar to off-set hypoglycemia. Since the body can't use all this glucose at once, it just stores it. With time, the receptors become less and less effecive at processing insulin, eventually resulting in diabetes. In conclusion, simple carbs make you fat and diabetic, FAST!!

  But the tragedy is not over. Simple carbs also turn he body acid, because all simple carbs are transfored into several acids during metabolistion. This interferes with the epitelial tissue's ability to absorb nutrients and maintain proper Sodium-Potassium balnce. This is also true for the hair and nails. The end result is dry, "dead", brittle skin, hair and nails. Saturated fats also intefere with the ability of cells to produce superoxide-dismutase, the Human organism's most powerful antioxidant. And finally, the metabolisation of saturated fats, as explained before, produce several toxic poisons in the liver and kidneys, which are released into the bloodstream and reach the skin, giving it spots, discolorations and acne. Therefore, a diet composed of simple carbs and saturated fats make you look dry, brittle, discolored and full of spots and in your skin!

  The ideal is to eat a "Paleolithic" diet, composed of lean meats - preferably from wild game, or from animals which are allowed to run around and graze -, leaves, root vegetables, berries and nuts. Carbs should be kept to a minimum and only those with the lowest glycemic indexes should be eaten. Lean meats stabilize blood sugars due to their protein and dramatically decrease hunger, due to their high amount of essential fatty acids. Leaves and root vegetables provide fiber, which aids digestion, and also highly bioavailable phytochemicals and polyphenols. Nuts and berries are terrific, providing enormous amounts of vitamins, natural antioxidants ns unsaturaed fats.

  Fruits other than berries are a very special case, which I would like to explain. Fruits are NOT natural; they are the result of genetic experiments to make them taste better...just like candy. Natural fruits, the ones from thousands of years ago, contained only small amounts of simple carbs - glucose and fructose -, which came packed together with fiber, vitamins and phytochemicals. The problem is that wild fruits are not as tasty as modern ones. The modern variety has far more fructose and glucose, with a decreased fiber content and less vitamins, minerals and phytochemicals. Only berries still exist in their natural state, so they're the only ones that should be eaten. Except commercial blueberries, which were genetically enhanced to have tons of simple carbs. Go for wild blueberries, raspberries and strawberries: the closest things there are to 'perfect foods". Hope it helped. :)

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2006, 01:51:41 AM »
I just can't make myself read that whole post suckmymuscle...I am too lazy tonight.....but judging from some of your past posts,I am sure it was a pretty good one. :)

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2006, 11:27:20 AM »
I didn't know there was a supp and food board, my bad.  I slapped it here cause I was looking for good stories about fast food maladies, not to ask how to eat....interesting article, by the way.  Although I always find it humourous when people talk about excessive gluscose and carbs being stored as fat (which they do) yet also eat up to 250 grams of protein a day where the majority of it is pissed away (which it is)....while I agree the paleolithic diet makes a lot of sense in many ways, facts are that our modern society has developed far more efficient strategies for feeding us as long as we stick to the good stuff, not the "food science" as I like to call it (fast food, processed food).  If paleolithic man could have developed easier access carbs he would have...in fact, that's why our ancestors created that thing called FARMING, where they grew the important carbs they needed to survive.  I'm not talking sugar and such, I'm talking corn, rice, and other staple in many civilizations ancient diets. 

Anyway, I'm getting off the point...it's interesting to think that Supersize Me, while using McDonalds as it's subject matter, really just points out that if you eat too much you have problems.  I don't think it matters WHERE those extra calories come from as much as it is simply the fact that you EAT too much, don't excerise and you're gonna get fat and sick.  Plain sense to me!

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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2006, 11:30:32 AM »
my friend said he can eat 3 tripple whoppers. He is kind of a fatass, but that seems impossible. He said he would bet me(how much I don't know). You guys think it can be done?
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Re: Fast food...how much until you risk your health?
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2006, 11:32:38 AM »
Sure it can.  I've mowed down 2 doubles and a single with a POUTINE and pop.  If you're hungry and focussed (and a bit of an idiot, I admit) it can be done.  Those greasy bastards go down pretty quick, especially after training back!