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Title: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 06:51:10 PM
On WWE I just heard them say that Mark Henry squatted 1000 pounds. You think he is stronger than Ronnie?
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on June 23, 2006, 06:51:31 PM
duh.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 06:53:34 PM
duh.

I mean now, Mark Henry isn't into competetive powerlifting anymore.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Hulkster on June 23, 2006, 06:59:41 PM
Ronnie is bodybuilding's answer to sexual chocolate
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on June 23, 2006, 06:59:50 PM
He's still stronger.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 07:02:27 PM
He's still stronger.

Mark is a beast, but Ronnie has to push some heavy weights too. I think Mark would win the big 3, but Ronnie could get him in some of the other lifts.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: gordiano on June 23, 2006, 07:06:18 PM
Well, at least Mark and Ronnie share the same waist size...........
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 23, 2006, 07:09:14 PM
Well, at least Mark and Ronnie share the same waist size...........

yeah, i was wondering why everyone around here gets all up on his nuts, he looks like a fatass in those new pics.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Hulkster on June 23, 2006, 07:21:32 PM
yeah, i was wondering why everyone around here gets all up on his nuts, he looks like a fatass in those new pics.
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he's just big boned 8)
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: SS on June 23, 2006, 08:35:06 PM
On WWE I just heard them say that Mark Henry squatted 1000 pounds. You think he is stronger than Ronnie?
a better question would be who would score higher on a IQ test.....
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on June 23, 2006, 09:36:23 PM
On WWE I just heard them say that Mark Henry squatted 1000 pounds. You think he is stronger than Ronnie?

Horsecrap...you don't really believe that?
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: brianX on June 23, 2006, 10:57:02 PM
Horsecrap...you don't really believe that?

Why not? He has deadlifted and squatted over 900 in competition with virtually no equipment.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: benchthis on June 23, 2006, 10:57:41 PM
mark > ronnie
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 24, 2006, 03:50:37 AM
Mark Henry never had the chance to become as strong as he could have been. If he focused solely on powerlifting he would be the strongest man the world has ever seen. Even Kaz said that. Obviously he has made millions from wrestling but Ronnie wouldnt come close if they competed against each other
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 24, 2006, 04:02:37 AM
Mark Henry never had the chance to become as strong as he could have been. If he focused solely on powerlifting he would be the strongest man the world has ever seen. Even Kaz said that. Obviously he has made millions from wrestling but Ronnie wouldnt come close if they competed against each other


I agree but did you see the pics of Ronnie wearing the tights and lunging with 185? Some of the other guys seemed impressed.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 24, 2006, 04:19:34 AM
ive seen ronnie lunging 315, and as impressive as that is he isnt comparable to Mark. He is a genetic phenomenon, the guy can slam dunk a basketball at over 400lbs
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: phyxsius on June 24, 2006, 06:14:28 AM
Mark could easily perform a suplex on Ronnie
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: chris_mason on June 24, 2006, 08:11:03 AM
Please allow me to clarify this matter.  Mark Henry is one of the strongest men in the world.  He won the Arnold Classic strongman a few years back with minimal training.  Ronnie is strong but he is not as strong as Mark.  Mark clean and pressed the Inch Dumbbell with one arm (a TREMENDOUS feat) a few years back at an AOBS dinner.  I do not know of anyone else who has ever done that with the ease that Mark did (or has done it period).

Now, Ronnie certainly has the superior physique but when it comes to raw power Mark wins.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Colossus_1986 on June 24, 2006, 09:23:23 AM
Please allow me to clarify this matter.  Mark Henry is one of the strongest men in the world.  He won the Arnold Classic strongman a few years back with minimal training.  Ronnie is strong but he is not as strong as Mark.  Mark clean and pressed the Inch Dumbbell with one arm (a TREMENDOUS feat) a few years back at an AOBS dinner.  I do not know of anyone else who has ever done that with the ease that Mark did (or has done it period).

Now, Ronnie certainly has the superior physique but when it comes to raw power Mark wins.

you can't clearly say anything bout this matter, because for one...Ronnie lifts and diets while Mark lifts and devours food.
in ronnies videos, hes in real good shape. but hes not eating anything and everything. If he allowed himself to eat as many carbs and or junk food as mark henry does, he might be even a tad stronger, but the fact that he's the best in the game, he's gotta stay in fair shape almost all the time.

It's not a fair comparison but then again they have about equal sized guts, so when it comes to squats, they got that belly-to-thigh support! ;D
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: youandme on June 24, 2006, 09:29:43 AM
Mark Henry never had the chance to become as strong as he could have been. If he focused solely on powerlifting he would be the strongest man the world has ever seen. Even Kaz said that. Obviously he has made millions from wrestling but Ronnie wouldnt come close if they competed against each other

Millions??
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: sarcasm on June 24, 2006, 09:44:14 AM
there is absolutely no comparison between Mark Henry at his strongest and Ronnie Coleman, Mark would absolutely destroy Ronnie in the gym, Mark IMO is one of the 5 or so strongest men who ever lived, the man was 6'0" 285lbs. in the fourth grade.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 24, 2006, 09:45:13 AM
yes, he signed a 10 year contract in 1996 which is up at the end of this year which was a multi million $ contract. As for the previous post about Ronnie getting as strong as Mark - not a chance mate. Mark was a drug tested lifter, with a squat and dead that even ronnie cant come near. Ronnie might be able to gorge himself up to 350, but Mark doesnt seriously train for power anymore and is still far stronger than the Mr O.

Basically, Ronnie has the physique that puts Mark to shame, but Mark has the strength that Ronnie will NEVER have
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: body88 on June 24, 2006, 10:12:05 AM
you can't clearly say anything bout this matter, because for one...Ronnie lifts and diets while Mark lifts and devours food.
in ronnies videos, hes in real good shape. but hes not eating anything and everything. If he allowed himself to eat as many carbs and or junk food as mark henry does, he might be even a tad stronger, but the fact that he's the best in the game, he's gotta stay in fair shape almost all the time.

It's not a fair comparison but then again they have about equal sized guts, so when it comes to squats, they got that belly-to-thigh support! ;D

Who do you think takes more drugs?????


It is pretty obvious Henrey is much stronger.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 24, 2006, 10:28:54 AM
6'0" 285lbs. in the fourth grade.

Monster lunch money taker
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: the shadow on June 24, 2006, 10:29:32 AM
ive seen ronnie lunging 315, and as impressive as that is he isnt comparable to Mark. He is a genetic phenomenon, the guy can slam dunk a basketball at over 400lbs
dude where di ya see coleman lunge 315lbs and mark henry slamdunkin at a body weight of 400lbs...wats ur source
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Faust on June 24, 2006, 10:44:03 AM
the man was 6'0" 285lbs. in the fourth grade.

How many times did he do fourth grade?
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Al-Gebra on June 24, 2006, 10:45:01 AM
Chris Mason, many years ago (before he went to the Olympics), I watched Henry train . . . and he was not an incredibly strong presser.  he was definitely strong, but in relation to bodyweight, it was not anything special.  i wonder if he could duplicate ronnie's 200 lb. dumbbell presses. the Inch dumbbell press is more of a one-armed clean and a push press . . .
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Special Ed on June 24, 2006, 10:52:40 AM
On WWE I just heard them say that Mark Henry squatted 1000 pounds. You think he is stronger than Ronnie?
Stronger than Ronnie, but still not as strong as Jack "The Lying Rhino" London

Special "London is Flaming" Ed
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 24, 2006, 11:00:19 AM
his best bench was somewhere around 550-600 which is pretty piss poor for a guy his size, but it was the squat and deadlift where he excelled. He held the deadlift world record (drug free as well) for years, had he carried on as a powerlifter he would have broken the 1000lb barrier a long time ago. There is nobody as strong as him, these lifts are from over 10 years ago:

Snatch - 180.0 kg (396 3/4 lbs.)
Clean-and-Jerk - 220.0 kg (485 lbs.)
Total - 400.0 kg (881 3/4 lbs.)
Squat - 953
Dead - 903

http://www.criticalbench.com/Mark-Henry.htm
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on June 24, 2006, 11:05:34 AM
Ronnie nuthuggers are fukking hilarious. I guess Ronnie Coleman is the best at everything.

You can't even tell some of these fools that a powerlifter is stronger than Coleman without them getting all up in arms and making excuses.


Ronnie's a bodybuilder.

Mark Henry was a powerlifter.

Huge difference, of course Henry is stronger than Coleman.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: chris_mason on June 24, 2006, 11:26:59 AM
Mark's bench is/was not as good as high lower body lifts but his pressing power has been proven in his strongman competitions.

Chris
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: alexxx on June 24, 2006, 11:55:02 AM
Please allow me to clarify this matter.  Mark Henry is one of the strongest men in the world.  He won the Arnold Classic strongman a few years back with minimal training.  Ronnie is strong but he is not as strong as Mark.  Mark clean and pressed the Inch Dumbbell with one arm (a TREMENDOUS feat) a few years back at an AOBS dinner.  I do not know of anyone else who has ever done that with the ease that Mark did (or has done it period).

Now, Ronnie certainly has the superior physique but when it comes to raw power Mark wins.

Rocky at 150 pounds! BOOYA!!
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: sarcasm on June 24, 2006, 01:31:13 PM
his best bench was somewhere around 550-600 which is pretty piss poor for a guy his size, but it was the squat and deadlift where he excelled. He held the deadlift world record (drug free as well) for years, had he carried on as a powerlifter he would have broken the 1000lb barrier a long time ago. There is nobody as strong as him, these lifts are from over 10 years ago:

Snatch - 180.0 kg (396 3/4 lbs.)
Clean-and-Jerk - 220.0 kg (485 lbs.)
Total - 400.0 kg (881 3/4 lbs.)
Squat - 953
Dead - 903

http://www.criticalbench.com/Mark-Henry.htm
a 550-600 pound bench isn't "piss poor" for anyone, moron.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 24, 2006, 01:35:39 PM
Dino Bravo was pretty strong too.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Hulkster on June 24, 2006, 03:43:43 PM
Hulk Hogan slammed Andre the Giant. 

say what you will, but that was an amazing feat of strength.

Its amazing he turned him like he did.

Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: benchthis on June 24, 2006, 03:47:06 PM
after buying groceries i took in two yes two gallons  :o of milk into my house in one hand  8)
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 24, 2006, 04:52:57 PM
do you think if Mark Henry had a little picnic workout weekend people would attend? or post pics on this site? He seems like the consensus stronger of the 2.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 25, 2006, 12:31:19 AM
a 550-600 pound bench isn't "piss poor" for anyone, moron.

i was waiting for a reply like this so...................... ..

alot of people are pushing 7-8-900lbs on the bench with modern equiptment, so when you look at 550 he is left well behind. Had he not been so far ahead in dead and squat he would struggle to be a top guy. Everyone has a weakness, although in reality a 550 bench is out of this world to we mere mortals
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: chris_mason on June 25, 2006, 05:25:57 AM
i was waiting for a reply like this so...................... ..

alot of people are pushing 7-8-900lbs on the bench with modern equiptment, so when you look at 550 he is left well behind. Had he not been so far ahead in dead and squat he would struggle to be a top guy. Everyone has a weakness, although in reality a 550 bench is out of this world to we mere mortals

Unfotunately your answer is showcasing your ignorance on the topic.  Do you know if Mark's press was performed raw or shirted?  There have been some tremendous advances as of late with shirts even if he was wearing a one.  The shirts of today can add a ton to what someone can lift.  For example, our own Mike Wolfe has pressed 830 lbs in a shirt.  His best competition raw press is 600 lbs at the recent NERB meet.  Mike is a tremendously strong presser raw or not and there are very few men who can press over 600 lbs raw.

So, to compare Mark's best competition bench to the benchers of today with their crazy shirts is not a valid comparison.

Chris
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: sarcasm on June 25, 2006, 07:30:12 AM
the funny thing is on this site we hear about so many feats of strength that may or may not be true that we lose sight of how heavy even 405 feels on the bench, it feels like there is a truck in your hands so imagine what another 150-200 lbs. feels like but according to people on this site everybody and their brother does 500, idiots.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Al-Gebra on June 25, 2006, 09:48:58 AM
When i saw him train he did 6 explosive reps (each w pause) with 405, raw. he was probably 20 yrs old, and he looked like he weighed close to 400 himself.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 25, 2006, 01:12:34 PM
When i saw him train he did 6 explosive reps (each w pause) with 405, raw. he was probably 20 yrs old, and he looked like he weighed close to 400 himself.

If he weighed 400 himself thats not really a big deal is it? I weigh 178 and could probably bench that about 100 times, maybe 200. Isn't that like saying that a guy doing pushups is impressive? Cuz, if it is, I could impress you 250 times every morning ;)
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: alexxx on June 25, 2006, 01:27:02 PM
If he weighed 400 himself thats not really a big deal is it? I weigh 178 and could probably bench that about 100 times, maybe 200. Isn't that like saying that a guy doing pushups is impressive? Cuz, if it is, I could impress you 250 times every morning ;)


and 250 times every night! ;D
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Al-Gebra on June 25, 2006, 01:27:57 PM
it's pretty incredible in absolute terms, but not relative to bw.

about benching your bw 100-200 times, you'd be surprised how difficult it is. doing pushups is not the same as benching, so i wouldn't use that as a gauge on how many times you can bench your bw.  if you're like me, you'll notice that a pump-like feeling in your biceps is actually what makes you stop . . .
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Hedgehog on June 25, 2006, 01:28:23 PM
If he weighed 400 himself thats not really a big deal is it? I weigh 178 and could probably bench that about 100 times, maybe 200. Isn't that like saying that a guy doing pushups is impressive? Cuz, if it is, I could impress you 250 times every morning ;)

Troll.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 25, 2006, 01:31:58 PM
Troll.

YIP
Zack

I may not be able to bench my bw 100 times, but I KNOW I can do it 50. Muscular endurance can actually be developed if trained for very high reps. I know it. I do it. I teach it. I'm no troll either, Ron Jeremy. Call me what you want, but I am not a troll >:(
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 25, 2006, 01:33:49 PM
it's pretty incredible in absolute terms, but not relative to bw.

about benching your bw 100-200 times, you'd be surprised how difficult it is. doing pushups is not the same as benching, so i wouldn't use that as a gauge on how many times you can bench your bw.  if you're like me, you'll notice that a pump-like feeling in your biceps is actually what makes you stop . . .

I got what your saying. I actually am VERY impressed with that dudes strength.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: doozejooze on June 25, 2006, 01:37:09 PM
We held here in southern CA 2 years running a bench press competition. Reps with bodyweight. The first year the guy who won did 41, he weighed 198. The second year the winner did 44. He weighed 202. Most guys did around 17-28 reps. The biggest guy weighed 265 and did 30 reps. Big Samoan dude.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on June 25, 2006, 01:41:52 PM
"The heaviest "raw" bench press (without equipment such as denim shirts) is 715 lb (325 kg) by Scot Mendelson."

from wiki

so no, 500-600 is definately not "piss poor"

Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 25, 2006, 01:42:13 PM
We held here in southern CA 2 years running a bench press competition. Reps with bodyweight. The first year the guy who won did 41, he weighed 198. The second year the winner did 44. He weighed 202. Most guys did around 17-28 reps. The biggest guy weighed 265 and did 30 reps. Big Samoan dude.


I think I could win the southern Cal open. But, I could be wrong, I'll see how many I can do, I may be overconfident from the number of pushups I do.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Hedgehog on June 25, 2006, 02:02:57 PM

I think I could win the southern Cal open. But, I could be wrong, I'll see how many I can do, I may be overconfident from the number of pushups I do.

If you're able to do more than 30 reps with 178lbs, I'm very impressed.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: doozejooze on June 25, 2006, 02:14:34 PM
I agree with Hedge. 30 reps would be admirable and nothing to scoff at, at that bodyweight. Pushups are not an indicator of how many bodyweight bench presses can be done.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Ursus on June 25, 2006, 02:19:08 PM
We held here in southern CA 2 years running a bench press competition. Reps with bodyweight. The first year the guy who won did 41, he weighed 198. The second year the winner did 44. He weighed 202. Most guys did around 17-28 reps. The biggest guy weighed 265 and did 30 reps. Big Samoan dude.

the problem with lifts in relation to b/w is that once over 220lbs relating lifts to b/w becomes more difficult and less applicable.. Bud Jeffries wrote interesting articles on this. is a 200lb guy pullin 3x b/w more impressive than a 300lber pullin 800lb? This explains which this fella says the winners were 198 and 202. thats y other formulas such as wilks etc are brought into play rather than solely b/w. no 400lb man can press his b/w 40times
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: UK Gold on June 25, 2006, 03:03:15 PM
Mark Henry was not drug free when he made those lifts! Just because he passed the test does not mean hes natrual. Anyway who cares; hes just a big fat bastard that has no credibility or integrity. Whilst Maruisz is the world's stongest man and Ronnie is Mr Olympia, he is just a tubby turd that has to make out with the fabulous Moolah :-\
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: gordiano on June 25, 2006, 03:05:15 PM
Mark Henry was not drug free when he made those lifts! Just because he passed the test does not mean hes natrual. Anyway who cares; hes just a big fat bastard that has no credibility or integrity. Whilst Maruisz is the world's stongest man and Ronnie is Mr Olympia he is just a tubby turd that has to make out with the fabulous Moolah :-\

LOL. That was fucking gross (Moolah).
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 25, 2006, 03:32:08 PM
If you're able to do more than 30 reps with 178lbs, I'm very impressed.

YIP
Zack

I did 225 for 22 last month, touch and go, 8 more reps with 48 less pounds should be puddin. ;D
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Miss Demeanor on June 25, 2006, 03:46:03 PM
"The heaviest "raw" bench press (without equipment such as denim shirts) is 715 lb (325 kg) by Scot Mendelson."

from wiki

so no, 500-600 is definately not "piss poor"



Right.

Besides, Mark NEVER TRAINED THE BENCH like he did the other lifts.  He's said on numerous occasions that he'd only play with it for short periods because excessive chest development would screw up his Olympic lifting.

Let him train the bench seriously for a couple of years.  He'd reign supreme in powerlifting.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Adam Empire on June 25, 2006, 07:36:53 PM
I think strength should be measured in bodyslams/minute.  In which case Mark would win as Ronnie would be on the oxygen tank.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: MCWAY on June 26, 2006, 02:34:16 AM
Mark Henry was not drug free when he made those lifts! Just because he passed the test does not mean hes natrual. Anyway who cares; hes just a big fat bastard that has no credibility or integrity. Whilst Maruisz is the world's stongest man and Ronnie is Mr Olympia, he is just a tubby turd that has to make out with the fabulous Moolah :-\

Yep, just toss out the Arnold Strongman title he won in 2002, along with various other records he set  ::).

Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 26, 2006, 02:45:34 AM
Mark Henry was not drug free when he made those lifts! Just because he passed the test does not mean hes natrual. Anyway who cares; hes just a big fat bastard that has no credibility or integrity. Whilst Maruisz is the world's stongest man and Ronnie is Mr Olympia, he is just a tubby turd that has to make out with the fabulous Moolah :-\

yeah maybe, but who has over $10 million in the bank? Mark is a VERY wealthy man.

As for the debate on my remarks about his bench, it wasnt ignorant. The fact is that, suited or raw, his best bench in competition was about 550 or so. Whether it was 20 years ago, 10 years ago or yesterday, it doesnt change the fact that his number is a long way behind the top guys today. Open your mind and realise that im not talking about him using the new shirts that Gene and Co use, im talking about an actual number he has pushed in relation to todays best. Its like comparing Ronnie to Arnold, the level of advancement is unbelievable now
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: UK Gold on June 26, 2006, 03:18:15 AM
Yep, just toss out the Arnold Strongman title he won in 2002, along with various other records he set  ::).


Who cares? Everyone knows that Mariusz is the man
yeah maybe, but who has over $10 million in the bank? Mark is a VERY wealthy man.
10 million? From what? Hes a fourth tier wrestler not a headlining superstar. He probably has a comfortable lifestyle but thats it. He should go for glory and enter the worlds stongest man - if he has the balls ::)
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: ReEvolution on June 26, 2006, 03:29:59 AM
10 million seems a litte high.  where has he been lately?  injured or something?  i don't watch much anymore.  the dude is/was strong as hell.  he had some funny bits in wrestling.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 26, 2006, 05:07:14 AM
when he signed for Vince in 1996 he had a water tight 10 year, $10 million contract (Big Show has the same deal). Even though he stopped wrestling for a while he still got paid the same as Shawn Michaels did when he was injured. Not a smart move by Vince IMO, as only now is he making ground in the WWE

Theyre pushing him harder than ever, hes walked through Batista, Benoit, Mysterio, feuded with 'Taker - i thought they were pushing him for the title at one stage. I dont know what they'll do with him now but he's getting recognition
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Playboy on June 26, 2006, 06:19:10 AM
On WWE I just heard them say that Mark Henry squatted 1000 pounds. You think he is stronger than Ronnie?
You can't compare a bodybuilder to a powerlifter.

PB
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: texasRUSH on June 26, 2006, 06:35:03 AM
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his best bench was somewhere around 550-600 which is pretty piss poor for a guy his size

i dont care how big the guy is....i've never seen ANYONE move that kinda weight in my life save on videos...

i think if i ever saw that in person i'd literally shit my pants! i can't even squat that let alone bench press it! i dont' care how big the dude is...600lbs is a fuck load of weight
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Adam Empire on June 26, 2006, 07:06:36 AM
when he signed for Vince in 1996 he had a water tight 10 year, $10 million contract (Big Show has the same deal). Even though he stopped wrestling for a while he still got paid the same as Shawn Michaels did when he was injured. Not a smart move by Vince IMO, as only now is he making ground in the WWE

Theyre pushing him harder than ever, hes walked through Batista, Benoit, Mysterio, feuded with 'Taker - i thought they were pushing him for the title at one stage. I dont know what they'll do with him now but he's getting recognition

He had a 10 year 200,000/year contract.  It is now up and now I believe he will make even less. 
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: BM OUT on June 26, 2006, 08:27:02 AM
Its not even close.Mark Henry squatted 951 with no suit and pulled 903 in competition and then turned around and made the Olympic team in weightlifting.No contest.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 26, 2006, 10:46:15 AM
i know his squat and dead were raw world records, i just dont know for sure what his raw bench was. He said himself that benching is his big weak point. The thing im trying to stress to everyone without them having a fucking brain fart is that although 550 is an incredible lift, it isnt even a warm up for the top guys today. Sure he may have trained towards 650 etc, but his dead and squat were his bread and butter and thats what gave him an advantage over everyone
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: buffbodz on June 26, 2006, 11:42:23 AM
Mark Henry was not drug free when he made those lifts! Just because he passed the test does not mean hes natrual. Anyway who cares; hes just a big fat bastard that has no credibility or integrity. Whilst Maruisz is the world's stongest man and Ronnie is Mr Olympia, he is just a tubby turd that has to make out with the fabulous Moolah :-\

I remember that.  It was May Young, Moolah's friend.  How about when she gave birth to the hand.  That had to be one of the funniest and grossest things Vince ever came up with.  Getting back to the question, I would have to go with Henry.  He was an Olympic level power lifter, while Ronnie is one of the strongest bodybuilders alive, against Henry, He looses.  I believe the way to see who's the strongest would be a dead lift comp.  To me that is the real test of strength.  Who could pull the most weight off the floor.  I think Henry would out pull Colemen by at least 200 lbs.  JMO
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: BM OUT on June 26, 2006, 11:53:54 AM
In fairness though,Ronnie isnt just training to be strong.His strength is a side effect for trying to get big[or is it the other way around].If Ronnie just trained to be strong and stopped caring how he looked,hed be one of the strongest men in the world and one of the best powerlifters.Henry,though,is a freak of nature.He cleaned and pressed the Thomas inch dumbell like a toy and even Kaz thought that was incredible.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 26, 2006, 12:12:08 PM
i saw Phil Pfister do it and it looked like he was going to pass out, but Mark just man handled it. He also played with the Apollons Wheel like it was nothing. Im telling you, theres never been a man like him and it will be a very long time before another comes around
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: brianX on June 26, 2006, 12:16:27 PM
The difference is that Mark Henry is drug free, whereas Ronnie has been juicing out of his ears for over a decade.

He still has the all-time USAPL Texas state records in the squat, deadlift, and total:
http://www.usapltexas.org/records/open_men_records.php
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Playboy on June 26, 2006, 12:31:18 PM
The difference is that Mark Henry is drug free, whereas Ronnie has been juicing out of his ears for over a decade.

He still has the all-time USAPL Texas state records in the squat, deadlift, and total:
http://www.usapltexas.org/records/open_men_records.php
I got new s for your bud, Mark Henry is not drug free and if you think he is you have a lot to learn about this business.
PB
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 26, 2006, 02:38:54 PM
I got new s for your bud, Mark Henry is not drug free and if you think he is you have a lot to learn about this business.
PB

why would anyone takes drugs just to lok like a big fatass? besides Ronnie and Sharry I mean.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: UK Gold on June 26, 2006, 02:56:23 PM
why would anyone takes drugs just to lok like a big fatass? besides Ronnie and Sharry I mean.
They use for strength, not looks. At last in Mariuscz we have a strongman who looks like a strongman ought to - but in reality most powerlifters/strongmen are big fat bastards. Just the way it goes. [and it reinforces how awesome Pudz is]
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: brianX on June 26, 2006, 05:28:21 PM
I got new s for your bud, Mark Henry is not drug free and if you think he is you have a lot to learn about this business.
PB

You're just another clown who can't accept the fact that some people are naturally strong. Good luck with those 225 lb bench presses.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: body88 on June 26, 2006, 05:34:44 PM
I got new s for your bud, Mark Henry is not drug free and if you think he is you have a lot to learn about this business.
PB

Are you claiming Mark takes more drugs or just as many drugs as RONNIE COLEMAN. Henry does not juice. He is fat as hell. What the hell would he have to gain juicing. Not to mention the Olympic drug testing.


HAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Al-Gebra on June 26, 2006, 05:41:19 PM
Are you claiming Mark takes more drugs or just as many drugs as RONNIE COLEMAN. Henry does not juice. He is fat as hell. What the hell would he have to gain juicing. Not to mention the Olympic drug testing.


HAHAHAHAH

juicing can help even fat musclemen recover faster and put on muscle quicker . . .
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 26, 2006, 05:42:05 PM
juicing can help even fat musclemen recover faster and put on muscle quicker . . .

like Sharry, right?
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Necrosis on June 26, 2006, 05:45:37 PM
i know personally that mark does take steriods, just not around comp time. i've witnessed an interaction per se
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: body88 on June 26, 2006, 05:57:21 PM
juicing can help even fat musclemen recover faster and put on muscle quicker . . .

Fair enough. So lets say he does juice. I think it is safe to say his intake of steriods, growth, insulin and hoards of other shit is less than Ronnies.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 26, 2006, 07:10:09 PM
Fair enough. So lets say he does juice. I think it is safe to say his intake of steriods, growth, insulin and hoards of other shit is less than Ronnies.

who looks worse, Ronnie off season or Mark year round?
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Al-Gebra on June 26, 2006, 07:12:21 PM
who looks worse, Ronnie off season or Mark year round?

if you had mark's cranium, and lived in the middle ages, they would use your head as a battering ram . . . and it would improve your appearance.  ;D
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 26, 2006, 07:13:48 PM
if you had mark's cranium, and lived in the middle ages, they would use your head as a battering ram . . . and it would improve your appearance.  ;D

No, I am referring to "sexual chocolate", the chicks seem to really dig him.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 27, 2006, 01:31:55 AM
drugs or not, its most likely nothing even near what a BBer takes. And dont forget, Mariusz was banned from comps for 2 years for using steroids and getting caught
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Playboy on June 27, 2006, 04:48:39 AM
You're just another clown who can't accept the fact that some people are naturally strong. Good luck with those 225 lb bench presses.
Like I said, you have a lot to learn about this business.
PB
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Playboy on June 27, 2006, 04:49:12 AM
They use for strength, not looks. At last in Mariuscz we have a strongman who looks like a strongman ought to - but in reality most powerlifters/strongmen are big fat bastards. Just the way it goes. [and it reinforces how awesome Pudz is]
Exactly.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: chris_mason on June 27, 2006, 06:41:53 AM
First, don't lump powerlifters with strongmen.  Powerlifting has WEIGHT CLASSES.  Those in the lighter weight classes tend to be VERY lean.  In fact, until you get to the 308 + lbs weight classes a good proportion of the them are relativley lean.

The men in the 308 + lbs classes tend to carry more body fat because:

a) They can.
b) Their body type tends to be that way.

Increased body weight translates to increased lifts so if your weight class allows for it any intelligent competitor will do what they can to add body weight.

Next, strongmen at the highest level don't have weight classes therefore you will have more men carrying more body fat for the reasons above.

You really should learn more about a sport before you make ignorant statements.

Chris

Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Unchained81 on June 27, 2006, 03:20:30 PM
a better question would be who would score higher on a IQ test.....

That's like wondering who between Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles would do better on a vision test.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: fearANDloathing on June 27, 2006, 05:19:41 PM
On WWE I just heard them say that Mark Henry squatted 1000 pounds. You think he is stronger than Ronnie?
I hear a lot of shite lift claims. Usually they are just that- SHITE
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: the shadow on June 28, 2006, 01:23:34 AM
Its not even close.Mark Henry squatted 951 with no suit and pulled 903 in competition and then turned around and made the Olympic team in weightlifting.No contest.
dude how much leverage does a suit give u when u lift that shit load of weight..i don't give a horseshit if ronster did a 800lbs squat with a suit or not..thats still impressive....wats the difference when u lift that weight with or without suit....thats the same thing either way..ronnie is still the man..
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: chris_mason on June 28, 2006, 04:40:11 AM
dude how much leverage does a suit give u when u lift that shit load of weight..i don't give a horseshit if ronster did a 800lbs squat with a suit or not..thats still impressive....wats the difference when u lift that weight with or without suit....thats the same thing either way..ronnie is still the man..

Errrr, no, there can be a HUGE difference with the powerlifting gear.  A good suit, wraps, and possibly briefs (we don't know if he was wearing them or not) can add anywhere from 100 lbs to well over 200 lbs to your best raw squat.

Now, Ronnie is still a BEAST because squatting with 800 lbs for 2 relatively easy reps with a close stance is rather awesome!
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: BM OUT on June 28, 2006, 08:30:33 AM
I never said Ronnie wasnt very impressive,even compared to powerlifters.However,he is no where near as strong as Henry.Henry squats 953[i believe]with no suit IN A MEET!!!He pulls 903 IN A MEET.Now,Ronnie is very strong but pulling with straps is no where near like pulling without straps.Henry then did the olympic lifts and did well at that.Ronnie is great and beyond strong,but you cant compare him to a guy like Mark Henry in terms of strength.
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 28, 2006, 01:38:42 PM
I gotta disagree with much of this thread.  I don't think Henry is anywhere near as strong as Ronnie if Ronnie trained solely for max strength.       

If Mark Henry trained solely for a max, instead of jetting all over the world and wrestling, then there wouldnt be a record that didnt have his name on it. Ronnie is a monster but no comparison
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: danielson on June 28, 2006, 01:41:26 PM
If Mark Henry trained solely for a max, instead of jetting all over the world and wrestling, then there wouldnt be a record that didnt have his name on it. Ronnie is a monster but no comparison

Plus, I heard that when you have too much sex you become weaker. Mark is called "Sexual Chocolate" for a reason. Can you imagined how strong he would be if he were to abstain? ;)
Title: Re: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry?
Post by: Scimowser on June 28, 2006, 02:09:21 PM
now thats a classic comeback!  ;D