Author Topic: Ronnie vs. Mark Henry? (Read 19157 times)

Faust · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2006, 10:44:03 AM »

Quote from: sarcasm on June 24, 2006, 09:44:14 AM

the man was 6'0" 285lbs. in the fourth grade.

How many times did he do fourth grade?

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #26 on:** June 24, 2006, 10:45:01 AM »

Chris Mason, many years ago (before he went to the Olympics), I watched Henry train . . . and he was not an incredibly strong presser. he was definitely strong, but in relation to bodyweight, it was not anything special. i wonder if he could duplicate ronnie's 200 lb. dumbbell presses. the Inch dumbbell press is more of a one-armed clean and a push press . . .

Special Ed · « **Reply #27 on:** June 24, 2006, 10:52:40 AM »

Quote from: danielson on June 23, 2006, 06:51:10 PM

On WWE I just heard them say that Mark Henry squatted 1000 pounds. You think he is stronger than Ronnie?

Stronger than Ronnie, but still not as strong as Jack "The Lying Rhino" London

Special "London is Flaming" Ed

Scimowser · « **Reply #28 on:** June 24, 2006, 11:00:19 AM »

his best bench was somewhere around 550-600 which is pretty piss poor for a guy his size, but it was the squat and deadlift where he excelled. He held the deadlift world record (drug free as well) for years, had he carried on as a powerlifter he would have broken the 1000lb barrier a long time ago. There is nobody as strong as him, these lifts are from over 10 years ago:

Snatch - 180.0 kg (396 3/4 lbs.)
Clean-and-Jerk - 220.0 kg (485 lbs.)
Total - 400.0 kg (881 3/4 lbs.)
Squat - 953
Dead - 903

http://www.criticalbench.com/Mark-Henry.htm

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #29 on:** June 24, 2006, 11:05:34 AM »

Ronnie nuthuggers are fukking hilarious. I guess Ronnie Coleman is the best at everything.

You can't even tell some of these fools that a powerlifter is stronger than Coleman without them getting all up in arms and making excuses.

Ronnie's a bodybuilder.

Mark Henry was a powerlifter.

Huge difference, of course Henry is stronger than Coleman.

chris_mason · « **Reply #30 on:** June 24, 2006, 11:26:59 AM »

Mark's bench is/was not as good as high lower body lifts but his pressing power has been proven in his strongman competitions.

Chris

alexxx · « **Reply #31 on:** June 24, 2006, 11:55:02 AM »

Quote from: chris_mason on June 24, 2006, 08:11:03 AM

Please allow me to clarify this matter. Mark Henry is one of the strongest men in the world. He won the Arnold Classic strongman a few years back with minimal training. Ronnie is strong but he is not as strong as Mark. Mark clean and pressed the Inch Dumbbell with one arm (a TREMENDOUS feat) a few years back at an AOBS dinner. I do not know of anyone else who has ever done that with the ease that Mark did (or has done it period).

Now, Ronnie certainly has the superior physique but when it comes to raw power Mark wins.

Rocky at 150 pounds! BOOYA!!

sarcasm · « **Reply #32 on:** June 24, 2006, 01:31:13 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on June 24, 2006, 11:00:19 AM

his best bench was somewhere around 550-600 which is pretty piss poor for a guy his size, but it was the squat and deadlift where he excelled. He held the deadlift world record (drug free as well) for years, had he carried on as a powerlifter he would have broken the 1000lb barrier a long time ago. There is nobody as strong as him, these lifts are from over 10 years ago:

Snatch - 180.0 kg (396 3/4 lbs.)
Clean-and-Jerk - 220.0 kg (485 lbs.)
Total - 400.0 kg (881 3/4 lbs.)
Squat - 953
Dead - 903

http://www.criticalbench.com/Mark-Henry.htm

a 550-600 pound bench isn't "piss poor" for anyone, moron.

danielson · « **Reply #33 on:** June 24, 2006, 01:35:39 PM »

Dino Bravo was pretty strong too.

Hulkster · « **Reply #34 on:** June 24, 2006, 03:43:43 PM »

Hulk Hogan slammed Andre the Giant.

say what you will, but that was an amazing feat of strength.

Its amazing he turned him like he did.

benchthis · « **Reply #35 on:** June 24, 2006, 03:47:06 PM »

after buying groceries i took in two yes two gallons

of milk into my house in one hand

danielson · « **Reply #36 on:** June 24, 2006, 04:52:57 PM »

do you think if Mark Henry had a little picnic workout weekend people would attend? or post pics on this site? He seems like the consensus stronger of the 2.

Scimowser · « **Reply #37 on:** June 25, 2006, 12:31:19 AM »

Quote from: sarcasm on June 24, 2006, 01:31:13 PM

a 550-600 pound bench isn't "piss poor" for anyone, moron.

i was waiting for a reply like this so...................... ..

alot of people are pushing 7-8-900lbs on the bench with modern equiptment, so when you look at 550 he is left well behind. Had he not been so far ahead in dead and squat he would struggle to be a top guy. Everyone has a weakness, although in reality a 550 bench is out of this world to we mere mortals

chris_mason · « **Reply #38 on:** June 25, 2006, 05:25:57 AM »

Quote from: Scimowser on June 25, 2006, 12:31:19 AM

i was waiting for a reply like this so...................... ..

alot of people are pushing 7-8-900lbs on the bench with modern equiptment, so when you look at 550 he is left well behind. Had he not been so far ahead in dead and squat he would struggle to be a top guy. Everyone has a weakness, although in reality a 550 bench is out of this world to we mere mortals

Unfotunately your answer is showcasing your ignorance on the topic. Do you know if Mark's press was performed raw or shirted? There have been some tremendous advances as of late with shirts even if he was wearing a one. The shirts of today can add a ton to what someone can lift. For example, our own Mike Wolfe has pressed 830 lbs in a shirt. His best competition raw press is 600 lbs at the recent NERB meet. Mike is a tremendously strong presser raw or not and there are very few men who can press over 600 lbs raw.

So, to compare Mark's best competition bench to the benchers of today with their crazy shirts is not a valid comparison.

Chris

sarcasm · « **Reply #39 on:** June 25, 2006, 07:30:12 AM »

the funny thing is on this site we hear about so many feats of strength that may or may not be true that we lose sight of how heavy even 405 feels on the bench, it feels like there is a truck in your hands so imagine what another 150-200 lbs. feels like but according to people on this site everybody and their brother does 500, idiots.

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #40 on:** June 25, 2006, 09:48:58 AM »

When i saw him train he did 6 explosive reps (each w pause) with 405, raw. he was probably 20 yrs old, and he looked like he weighed close to 400 himself.

danielson · « **Reply #41 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:12:34 PM »

Quote from: Al-Gebra on June 25, 2006, 09:48:58 AM

When i saw him train he did 6 explosive reps (each w pause) with 405, raw. he was probably 20 yrs old, and he looked like he weighed close to 400 himself.

If he weighed 400 himself thats not really a big deal is it? I weigh 178 and could probably bench that about 100 times, maybe 200. Isn't that like saying that a guy doing pushups is impressive? Cuz, if it is, I could impress you 250 times every morning

alexxx · « **Reply #42 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:27:02 PM »

Quote from: danielson on June 25, 2006, 01:12:34 PM

If he weighed 400 himself thats not really a big deal is it? I weigh 178 and could probably bench that about 100 times, maybe 200. Isn't that like saying that a guy doing pushups is impressive? Cuz, if it is, I could impress you 250 times every morning

and 250 times every night!

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #43 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:27:57 PM »

it's pretty incredible in absolute terms, but not relative to bw.

about benching your bw 100-200 times, you'd be surprised how difficult it is. doing pushups is not the same as benching, so i wouldn't use that as a gauge on how many times you can bench your bw. if you're like me, you'll notice that a pump-like feeling in your biceps is actually what makes you stop . . .

Hedgehog · « **Reply #44 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:28:23 PM »

Quote from: danielson on June 25, 2006, 01:12:34 PM

If he weighed 400 himself thats not really a big deal is it? I weigh 178 and could probably bench that about 100 times, maybe 200. Isn't that like saying that a guy doing pushups is impressive? Cuz, if it is, I could impress you 250 times every morning

Troll.

YIP
Zack

danielson · « **Reply #45 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:31:58 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on June 25, 2006, 01:28:23 PM

Troll.

YIP
Zack

I may not be able to bench my bw 100 times, but I KNOW I can do it 50. Muscular endurance can actually be developed if trained for very high reps. I know it. I do it. I teach it. I'm no troll either, Ron Jeremy. Call me what you want, but I am not a troll

danielson · « **Reply #46 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:33:49 PM »

Quote from: Al-Gebra on June 25, 2006, 01:27:57 PM

it's pretty incredible in absolute terms, but not relative to bw.

about benching your bw 100-200 times, you'd be surprised how difficult it is. doing pushups is not the same as benching, so i wouldn't use that as a gauge on how many times you can bench your bw. if you're like me, you'll notice that a pump-like feeling in your biceps is actually what makes you stop . . .

I got what your saying. I actually am VERY impressed with that dudes strength.

doozejooze · « **Reply #47 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:37:09 PM »

We held here in southern CA 2 years running a bench press competition. Reps with bodyweight. The first year the guy who won did 41, he weighed 198. The second year the winner did 44. He weighed 202. Most guys did around 17-28 reps. The biggest guy weighed 265 and did 30 reps. Big Samoan dude.

Oliver Klaushof · « **Reply #48 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:41:52 PM »

"The heaviest "raw" bench press (without equipment such as denim shirts) is 715 lb (325 kg) by Scot Mendelson."

from wiki

so no, 500-600 is definately not "piss poor"

danielson · « **Reply #49 on:** June 25, 2006, 01:42:13 PM »

Quote from: doozejooze on June 25, 2006, 01:37:09 PM

We held here in southern CA 2 years running a bench press competition. Reps with bodyweight. The first year the guy who won did 41, he weighed 198. The second year the winner did 44. He weighed 202. Most guys did around 17-28 reps. The biggest guy weighed 265 and did 30 reps. Big Samoan dude.

I think I could win the southern Cal open. But, I could be wrong, I'll see how many I can do, I may be overconfident from the number of pushups I do.