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Title: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: blaster on July 15, 2006, 08:34:53 PM
I've got good results off as little as 1ml of sust a week, with the occasional 2ml towards the middle of the cycle. I had my blood work done and the doc told me my test levels were not overly high for men. I have read that they check creatinine levels in steroid tests.

I am wondering how much could I take before it showed exessive creatinine levels in a test? If 1 or 2 ml a week had my levels within the range, should I be ok?

Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: ZEEK on July 16, 2006, 12:29:05 AM
if its just a standard drug test they will not test for steroids.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 16, 2006, 04:01:16 AM
zero  mg a week !!

is it usually  drug test or advanced drug test?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: emn1964 on July 16, 2006, 06:19:48 AM
Creatinine levels will not show test usage.  That is a measure of kidney function.  Test is cleared by the liver and not the kidneys.  (This is basic stuff you should know already).  So, if anything is going to be out of line it will be liver values.  In order to detect test usage they look at the t:et ratio.  Second, unless they specifically test for it, it will not come up.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: blaster on July 17, 2006, 03:24:07 AM
I think they do test for steroids. Some guys got kicked out a couple of years ago for steroid use.

If my levels are within the normal range for a man, how could this be a problem?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 17, 2006, 04:27:52 AM
normal male body test production is  2.5 mg to 11mg a day
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: Rimbaud on July 17, 2006, 06:30:23 AM
What's the test for?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: emn1964 on July 17, 2006, 09:29:48 AM
I think they do test for steroids. Some guys got kicked out a couple of years ago for steroid use.

If my levels are within the normal range for a man, how could this be a problem?

It could be a problem because testosterone usage is detected by a ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone.  From what i understand even if your serum testosterone levels fall within the normal range, but your ratio of t:epit is off then it will come back for testosterone usage.

Is this a drug for a job or the military?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on July 18, 2006, 07:32:14 PM
Sounds like the military.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 18, 2006, 08:53:15 PM
Who in the hell would be seeking a job in the military right now?  Man that's nuts!  But Im sure some are.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: emn1964 on July 18, 2006, 09:01:39 PM
Who in the hell would be seeking a job in the military right now?  Man that's nuts!  But Im sure some are.

--Someone with a passion for freedom and a huge set of balls
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 19, 2006, 03:03:32 AM
Sounds like the military.

maybe police..
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: blaster on July 20, 2006, 09:24:10 PM
It's for both military and police.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: Rimbaud on July 20, 2006, 09:58:57 PM
It's for both military and police.

I think you'll probably be o-k.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: whitewidow on July 20, 2006, 11:38:15 PM
just get the job first-then use the steroids.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: Luv2Hurt on July 21, 2006, 04:50:30 AM
--Someone with a passion for freedom and a huge set of balls

Have you seen the movie Born On the 4th of July?

Don't missunderstand me, I'm a veteran and have served. 
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 21, 2006, 05:30:48 AM
just get the job first-then use the steroids.
correct
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: bigjohn_bluesfan on July 21, 2006, 09:10:09 AM
there are only like two agencies (police) in the country that test for steroids------ if you ask around it shouldnt be hard to find out if they test for it in military but I doubt they do
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: Rimbaud on July 21, 2006, 07:54:58 PM
there are only like two agencies (police) in the country that test for steroids------ if you ask around it shouldnt be hard to find out if they test for it in military but I doubt they do

Do you mean two police departments that test for gear? Or police in general? I know several friends that are cops & they only had to take the basic piss test.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 22, 2006, 12:57:30 PM
there are only like two agencies (police) in the country that test for steroids------ if you ask around it shouldnt be hard to find out if they test for it in military but I doubt they do
I was in the military for 4 years and never once saw anybody get tested for AAS. Because the military goes through civilian contracted labs for piss tests it is expensive (approx 200 bucks per testing) and that is for a panel test of only recreational drugs like maryjane, opiates, coke and what not. I had at least 3 friends during that time that were heavy on juice and people knew it but still they didn't get tested. The way things are shaping up right now in the world they will be taking people in wheel chairs and convicts because we will need all the troops we can get if we keep pissing off every other country in the world. We ever go to war with China and I will officially become a goddamn Canadian cause I will be damned if I am going to fight 2 billion Jet Le looking little bastards doing kung fu flips and get my ass kicked  ;D.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 22, 2006, 01:01:29 PM
where were you serve the army ?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 22, 2006, 01:04:19 PM
where were you serve the army ?
Actually Navy. Tried out for the Seal teams back in 92 and didn't make it. Spent 4 years on ships :( It sucked but maybe me grow up so it was a good thing in some regards. It would have been fun as hell wearing a wet suit and carrying a gun for a living.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 22, 2006, 01:25:13 PM
navy,
do u have any bettles  accros you?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 22, 2006, 01:43:49 PM
navy,
do u have any bettles  accros you?
what is a bettle bro?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 22, 2006, 02:16:57 PM
a combat, fight,struggle,action...
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 22, 2006, 02:28:05 PM
a combat, fight,struggle,action...
Oh battles, no. I didn't make the Seal teams and was on ships for my 4 year enlistment so no battles for me. :'( I still like the idea of a wet suit and a gun as normal work attire.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 22, 2006, 03:10:53 PM
it is any exciting ?
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 22, 2006, 08:18:36 PM
it is any exciting ?
I have seen alot of the world (most of europe, Isreal, Africa, UK and almost all the islands in the Carrabean) Ths training for seals was all endurance and for a heavier guy it is nearly impossible to keep going. Being on a ship is like working at a ship yard while you are floating in the ocean, you constantly do maintainence to ship board machinery, constantly run drills (fire drills, General quaters drills all boring) and you constantly wish you were in port having fun away from the ship.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 23, 2006, 05:09:51 AM
ports could be very exciting  !
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 23, 2006, 08:30:56 AM
ports could be very exciting  !
Knowing what I know now, hell yes they could have been. I could have bought so much juice in places like Isreal, Turkey and Greece. But at that time I was a natural weightlifter and thought that steroids where wrong thing to do. How fucking stupid was I? :'(
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 23, 2006, 10:26:00 AM
did you find some pretty girls there :)

Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 23, 2006, 11:57:21 AM
did you find some pretty girls there :)


Greece was by far alot kinder to me in the chick department than any other country I was in. Met a beautiful woman from Holland that was on vacation there the same time we were in port. It was fun. Wish I kept in contact with her but I was young, dumb and full of man mayo. ;D
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: blaster on July 24, 2006, 02:44:44 AM
I'm trying for the Army, maybe police if I don't get in.

Some guys got kicked out a year or so ago for AAS.

As for Born on the 4th July, I don't care. I'm doing this for the money. I need to get a career going and the money is good, the pension after only 12 years sounds good, the work sounds fun. That's all. Just like in Black Hawk Down (I've seen all the movies) after the first bullet flies past my head, I won't give a fuck. I'll be shooting back.

For people interested in politics, you need to see Jarhead and read what Jake Gyllenhaal says about the situation. Regardless of what I'll be doing, I know that the men I'll be fighting with are what counts. I have a few friends in the forces. All of them are good, decent men, of much higher calibre than the average piece of shit you see walking the streets in my area. I want to be part of that prestige that comes with the lifestyle.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: sportingsteroids on July 24, 2006, 07:15:18 AM
but I was young, dumb and full of man mayo. ;D

 :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: hendog on July 24, 2006, 04:36:04 PM
I'm trying for the Army, maybe police if I don't get in.

Some guys got kicked out a year or so ago for AAS.

As for Born on the 4th July, I don't care. I'm doing this for the money. I need to get a career going and the money is good, the pension after only 12 years sounds good, the work sounds fun. That's all. Just like in Black Hawk Down (I've seen all the movies) after the first bullet flies past my head, I won't give a f**k. I'll be shooting back.

For people interested in politics, you need to see Jarhead and read what Jake Gyllenhaal says about the situation. Regardless of what I'll be doing, I know that the men I'll be fighting with are what counts. I have a few friends in the forces. All of them are good, decent men, of much higher calibre than the average piece of shit you see walking the streets in my area. I want to be part of that prestige that comes with the lifestyle.
Best of luck to you bro. The military isn't a bad choice for young people that need a little direction, college money or excitement. I did alot of maturing in the service and though it wasn't always fun it was better than what I had going on at the time.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: blaster on July 27, 2006, 01:27:08 AM
Best of luck to you bro. The military isn't a bad choice for young people that need a little direction, college money or excitement. I did alot of maturing in the service and though it wasn't always fun it was better than what I had going on at the time.

Thanks mate. I've always liked the Army, and have been swayed a bit by other people as what to do in life, but now I'm about to finish Uni, I don't wanna do what I originally set out to do, so I'm applying for the Army. I don't have my heart set on it though, as I've had a knee reconstruction and have a plate in my ankle too (sports injuries) so I'll just have to see what happens.
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: iron270cal on July 27, 2006, 12:08:56 PM
hey blaster just a bit of info I see your all motivated and that is awsome just be prepared for many months of sheer bordom (possible if you end up in a hot zone) followed by moments of absolute panic, fear, and the HOLY SHIT factor  everyday is not a gunfight. but your officers and SNCO's and NCO will instill it in you that it is. To go back to the drug testing 5 main drug properities are tested for  all recrecation drugs, THC, COKE, UPPERS, DOWNERS,heroin,  and now have established to test for XTC ... AAS is not test for unless the command has reasonable suspicion that your on gear If you end up in a decent unit that will turn their heads than your good to go I highly recommend not jaw jacking about it to anyone until you know who will and will not drop dimes keep a low ass profile be the guy in the middle of formations  not out front avoid the tight ass under armor shirts if your jacked up, wear em a little loose better to not raise eyebrows in your direction if at all possible a lot of guys in my old unit pushed gear we just kept it to unmentionable level  everyone will have a thought maybe?? maybe not when asked just give the old LOTS OF CREATINE AND PROTEIN SIR" response other than that enjoy many years being a big mofo in a tree suit ;D
Title: Re: How much sust could I take without it showing in a drug test?
Post by: blaster on July 27, 2006, 05:52:05 PM
Cheers, boys.

All helpful info.

I'm going for officer entry so hopefully I won't get too bored and I'll always have something to do, and I won't have to worry about recreational drugs...I don't touch that shit. Used to, but then I woke up to myself. I don't even drink anymore.

This isn't the US Army I'm trying for though, so I'm still a little sceptical when it comes to the drug tests. As I said, I have heard on the news of a few guys who got the ass for taking steroids.