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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: whitewidow on August 23, 2006, 08:00:10 PM
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id have to say branch warren is the most hardcore BB I have ever seen- branch is more serious than a heart attack when it comes to training and bodybuilding- I think he has what it takes to be the next mr.O- Id say he beats ronny easily- hes more thick and dense like a new age dorian yates- im calling it right now- branch warren will be mr.olympia one day!
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FORSURE
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Yes he could.
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Love watching that guy train. gets my amped for along time to train. Jonnie is nuts too.
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Too freaky and small IMO
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No chance. An iron warrior for sure, but horrible shape.
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Ahhhh Branch is awesome and a nice guy with it for sure , but I think the next Mr O will be a sleeper , some one no one really expects but makes amazing gains and surprises everyone , history also supports this !!
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No chance. Weak back and arms has never won an Olympia.
Special "The Truth is out There" Ed
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I hear some of you- but branch is training and diet is so hardcore- he is probably a more serious bodybuilder than ronnie- hes def taking this sht seriously- I think hes def up there with yates- hes already surpassed ronnie-IMO
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"C'mon on get some!"
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the great thing about Branch is that he nails his conditioning every time. If he brings his back up, he could very well be the next Mr. OLympia. These two will overide any arm deficiencies he has
It worked for Dorian . . .
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the great thing about Branch is that he nails his conditioning every time. If he brings his back up, he could very well be the next Mr. OLympia. These two will overide any arm deficiencies he has
It worked for Dorian . . .
I agree.
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hard to tell on whos the next mr O after Ronnie... could be anyone I suppose.
Jay would be my next guess!
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hard to tell on whos the next mr O after Ronnie... could be anyone I suppose.
Jay would be my next guess!
a sympothy sandow.
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the great thing about Branch is that he nails his conditioning every time. If he brings his back up, he could very well be the next Mr. OLympia. These two will overide any arm deficiencies he has
It worked for Dorian . . .
Here's something that should be noted. A bodybuilder with a great back will ALWAYS have had that great back. Dorian always had a great back and Ronnie always had a great back and displayed the shape needed to have that great back prior to becoming Mr. Olympia. A back worthy of an Mr. Olympia champion is one that is built over a long period of time, not one that the bodybuilder suddenly attempts to become great (i.e. Branch, Jay, etc).
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jays a pretty serious bodybuilder- more serious than ronnie - but id say branch is grainier and thicker- insane leg sweeps to boot.
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Here's something that should be noted. A bodybuilder with a great back will ALWAYS have had that great back. Dorian always had a great back and Ronnie always had a great back and displayed the shape needed to have that great back prior to becoming Mr. Olympia. A back worthy of an Mr. Olympia champion is one that is built over a long period of time, not one that the bodybuilder suddenly attempts to become great (i.e. Branch, Jay, etc).
Exactly. Go all the way back to Bannout. You have to have a great back to win.
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dorians back was not always great- if you look at hime when he was 24yrs old- he was tiny-
nt a diss on yates- he was probably thickest most insaned conditioned mr.o of all time- his back was truly insane- but I think within time branch can thicken up his back and lats and look even sicker- however id hate to see him start playing the size game and wind up with GH gutt- thats the amother thing I like about branch an dorian - no visible GH gutt- with ronnie and jay and dennis james its just to obvious they are GH abusers- branch at least comes in with a crisp ripped midsection.
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dorians back was not always great- if you look at hime when he was 24yrs old- he was tiny-
nt a diss on yates- he was probably thickest most insaned conditioned mr.o of all time- his back was truly insane- but I think within time branch can thicken up his back and lats and look even sicker- however id hate to see him start playing the size game and wind up with GH gutt- thats the amother thing I like about branch an dorian - no visible GH gutt- with ronnie and jay and dennis james its just to obvious they are GH abusers- branch at least comes in with a crisp ripped midsection.
no. Branch simply doesn't have "Mr. O" back genetics. If you look at Dorian early in their BB careers they both had great backs....just check Ronnie at the 1994 Mr. Olympia, he had a better back than Branch Warren does now ;)
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cleary - no. He has 2-3 years left with the amount he's on.
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Dorian had an incredible back in 92, his first Olympia. I believe he was 30 years old in 92. Branch is already 30 and has no where near an Olympia winning back. Maybe he can bring it up, but I doubt it. And even with a solid back, he still has very poor shape.
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I have to disagree. hes 2nd at the Arnold already and i've only known his name for 3ish years now. after ronnie and jay there isn't much standing in his way.
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while ronnie has a great back- his gutt is still clearly visible- and disformed looking- obvious GH abuser- If I were a judge id give it to the most balance physique-not somebody who looks klike they are about to drop- who cares how big ronnies back is when he has a gutt too match.
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I think he has a good base to work with
(http://www.svetkulturistiky.cz/images/cms/fotografie/FDBE0178%5B1%5D.jpg)
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Dexter, Gunther, Gustavo, Victor, Dennis, Phil
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Dexter, Gunther, Gustavo, Victor, Dennis, Phil
what about them?
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Dexter, Gunther, Gustavo, Victor, Dennis, Phil
Branch has already beaten half of the top 6. With his performance at this year's Arnold, he's shown he can beat many of the front runners to the crown. It's arguable that he could have even beaten Dex, which puts him as high as 2nd or 3rd in the world (a bit of a stretch I know ;) )
As for Warren's back, I really do think he can improve it. But consider his performance at the ASC once more. Victor's got the widest back I've ever seen, and Branch beat him handily. It's all about overall consistency and Branch has that covered.
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This is what you fail to understand.
Mr. Olympia has the best back in the world. Period. Haney. Yates. Coleman.
Warren is not, and will never be in that company.
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The question is whether Branch can win the Olympia. The Olympia is a different contest than the others. I think Branch has the ability to win any contest but the Olympia. I just don't think there's any chance he'll ever win the Olympia. Even with a better back, he has horrible shape, his body is one of the most unaestetic competing today. I like Branch but in my opinion he'll never come close to the Olympia crown. Top 5 possibly, but never win.
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Dexter, Gunther, Gustavo, Victor, Dennis, Phil
dennis for sure no- he is another example of GH abuse- horrible mid-section-
gunther- hell no-
victor - no due to politics and the gym and drug situation
dexter - possibility
heath- possibility
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The question is whether Branch can win the Olympia. The Olympia is a different contest than the others. I think Branch has the ability to win any contest but the Olympia. I just don't think there's any chance he'll ever win the Olympia. Even with a better back, he has horrible shape, his body is one of the most unaestetic competing today. I like Branch but in my opinion he'll never come close to the Olympia crown. Top 5 possibly, but never win.
Dorian beat Flex Wheeler. In the olympia, Aesthetics matter not. Hope this helps
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Dorian beat Flex Wheeler. In the olympia, Aesthetics matter not. Hope this helps
LOL Branch Warren is no Dorian Yates......please
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Dorian beat Flex Wheeler. In the olympia, Aesthetics matter not. Hope this helps
Monster capitalization errors.
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Top 5 possibly, but never win.
never say never.
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LOL Branch Warren is no Dorian Yates......please
I never said he was. Just that aesthetics take a back seat at the olympia.
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never say never.
Ok, how about highly doubtful....
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I never said he was. Just that aesthetics take a back seat at the olympia.
Aesthetics might take a back seat if you have overpowering size and conditioning, like Dorian. And even Dorian was much more aestethic than Branch.
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Even with a better back, he has horrible shape, his body is one of the most unaestetic competing today.
Dorian's shape was far from the greatest and he still beat the likes of Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, and other legends of aesthetic appeal. I think superior conditioning and a shit-load of mass can overide these qualities. Branch is thick and always competes dry and ripped.
If guys with better physiques come in with poor conditioning, Branch has what it takes to beat them. Dorian probably wouldn't have won after 93 if his conditioning hadn't been superior to everyone else [who mattered].
Besides, how unnasthetic can Warren be with a tight midsection?
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Dorian's shape was far from the greatest and he still beat the likes of Flex Wheeler, Shawn Ray, and other legends of aesthetic appeal. I think superior conditioning and a shit-load of mass can overide these qualities. Branch is thick and always competes dry and ripped.
If guys with better physiques come in with poor conditioning, Branch has what it takes to beat them. Dorian probably wouldn't have won after 93 if his conditioning hadn't been superior to everyone else [who mattered].
Besides, how unnasthetic can Warren be with a tight midsection?
Dorian beat those guys because he weighed 30 pounds more than them and had great conditioning. What does Branch weigh 240, 245. Who's he going to overpower at the Olympia weighing that? We're talking about the Mr. Olympia. Branch is never going to sniff the Olympia crown. At his best he might challenge for the top 5. The Olympia is a whole new ball game. And if you think Branch is aestetic, well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.
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Dorian beat those guys because he weighed 30 pounds more than them and had great conditioning. What does Branch weigh 240, 245. Who's he going to overpower at the Olympia weighing that? We're talking about the Mr. Olympia. Branch is never going to sniff the Olympia crown. At his best he might challenge for the top 5. The Olympia is a whole new ball game. And if you think Branch is aestetic, well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.
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warren will be solid contender if he doesnt die before,, expect great things from him if he holds to life which i doubt will happen
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In the last 5 years Branch's face has aged 20 years!
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In the last 5 years Branch's face has aged 20 years!
i said the exact same thing in previous branch thread
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I think he has better aesthetics than ronnie- branch is cutt and striated everywhere-
he beat jay cuttler when he was 19 and can easily beat him again- watch out ronnie!
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branch is too short to win the Olympia.
sure, franco won - but only after arnold retired.
branch being 5'7, at most he can go up to 250 without loosing his conditioning or having an outrageous gut, but i if someone is taller and heavier, while in great shape...
he and dorian are similiar, but branch, as much as i like him, aint even close to dorian.
ruhl could be the next mr. olympia, if he improves his hamstrings and gets his back more seperated. it doesnt have to be the best onstage, but close to it. he has the size, height, stage presence, freaky bodyparts - bi's and chest. in 04, his midsection was fine. ruhl just needs to get a bit harder, dryer, and more seperated in the back. but that's a tall order to fill. time will tell if he will do that.
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branch is too short to win the Olympia.
agreed. anybody under 5'8" will have a hard time winning the O from here on out. the best "taller" guys will always win the O.
waiting for all the short guys to chime in...................... ......
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Although ironagers never admit this - pros like Branch Warren have one major flaw - they are TOO muscular. Ironagers will go on about lack of aesthetics of proportions or some other BS excuse, but the reality is that it IS possible to have too much muscle. Branch is just too thick to look aesthetic, regardless of how balanced his proportions are.
Ditto.
He's 5'6" isn't he? 'nuff said.
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agreed. anybody under 5'8" will have a hard time winning the O from here on out. the best "taller" guys will always win the O.
waiting for all the short guys to chime in...................... ......
I am a short guy chiming in LoL...I have to agree though, history has proven that a short guy will never win at the big show...All us short guys can do is hope and dream of it one day...Although, we do have quite a contender in our corner now with Dex.....
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warren will be solid contender if he doesnt die before,, expect great things from him if he holds to life which i doubt will happen
Whoa!! What? Is his stack that much more/worse than everyone else's? Explain.
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I bet he could. Dorian Yates had the same "shape" and Warren has the potential to be bigger.
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id have to say branch warren is the most hardcore BB I have ever seen- branch is more serious than a heart attack when it comes to training and bodybuilding- I think he has what it takes to be the next mr.O- Id say he beats ronny easily- hes more thick and dense like a new age dorian yates- im calling it right now- branch warren will be mr.olympia one day!
That's a negative Captainwidow!
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u never know, it 's possible
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Whoa!! What? Is his stack that much more/worse than everyone else's? Explain.
some individual's bodies dont react to drug side effects very well. see youngblood,,gurerro,,etc. it is easy to track but you cant do nothing bout it. no hormones = no bodybuilding.
you are not a REAL bodybuilder if you havent sensed the 30-40 pound "high" feeling/gain in size and weight coming out of 20-40 days of LEGIT pharma grade dbol test and deca cycle that makes you eat 8 times a day anything insite. trust me on that my friend ;) (ug dont count its garbage and bunk)
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some individual's bodies dont react to drug side effects very well. see youngblood,,gurerro,,etc. it is easy to track but you cant do nothing bout it. no hormones = no bodybuilding.
you are not a REAL bodybuilder if you havent sensed the 30-40 pound "high" feeling/gain in size and weight coming out of 20-40 days of LEGIT pharma grade dbol test and deca cycle that makes you eat 8 times a day anything insite. trust me on that my friend ;) (ug dont count its garbage and bunk)
Do you have proof that eddie was using hardcore AAS? I know he used GH and had trouble with painkillers but I doubt he used the heavy amounts of AAS that Pro BB use- UG dont count? there are UGL's that are better than pharma grade- take british dragon and morning star labs for example they blow away most pharma gear. you seem to like the british dispensary thai anabol wich suck-IMO
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i should not even waste any more breath of air on arguing,,
do what you want. i am sitting here right now about to go to sleep telling you that ANY ug gear is GARBAGE. you dont grow of it,,few pounds is not growing. you need to know your drugs and have time in the sport knowing all the right connections in order to get legit pharma human grade hormones. or you can simply go and buy them in pharmas in countries that are selling them. ug gear is 99% bunk and wont do nothing for you. you are dealing with bunch of crooks (10-20 main guys,, same guys by the way!) online that made up this ug gear lines and profit on fake bunk gear with out quality control under no guidlines what so ever. making gear does not involve only accurate dosing!! but even the dosing you never get accurate or even close to accurate with ug labs simply because they are not labs but personal home made bathroom olive oil/grape oil/poision solution whatever cheaper at the moment. it is a highly profitable business due to stupid kids that belong in class of 2006 ;)
the moment you will get it is the moment you will be stepping on stage at 260lb
gurerro was swimming in gear,,i individually shipped him more than once to his hand packages to daytona beach and orlando fl when ever he was there via a common friend.
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warren will be solid contender if he doesnt die before,, expect great things from him if he holds to life which i doubt will happen
I gotta agree with our GB juice guru on this one. Branch is super jacked no doubt, but looks like he will go up in a ball of fire at a moment's notice. Man is on a hair trigger.
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Why do you think Branch is going to die?? :'( :'(
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i should not even waste any more breath of air on arguing,,
do what you want. i am sitting here right now about to go to sleep telling you that ANY ug gear is GARBAGE. you dont grow of it,,few pounds is not growing. you need to know your drugs and have time in the sport knowing all the right connections in order to get legit pharma human grade hormones. or you can simply go and buy them in pharmas in countries that are selling them. ug gear is 99% bunk and wont do nothing for you. you are dealing with bunch of crooks (10-20 main guys,, same guys by the way!) online that made up this ug gear lines and profit on fake bunk gear with out quality control under no guidlines what so ever. making gear does not involve only accurate dosing!! but even the dosing you never get accurate or even close to accurate with ug labs simply because they are not labs but personal home made bathroom olive oil/grape oil/poision solution whatever cheaper at the moment. it is a highly profitable business due to stupid kids that belong in class of 2006 ;)
the moment you will get it is the moment you will be stepping on stage at 260lb
gurerro was swimming in gear,,i individually shipped him more than once to his hand packages to daytona beach and orlando fl when ever he was there via a common friend.
thats BS- I personally sent some BD gear down to SRCS(san rafael chemical services) and there gear was slightly over label claim.
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He's better than Cutler & Gustavo and he gave Dexter a run for his money at the Arnold. So it's not too far fetched.
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to weak back and arms. enough said...
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cleary - no. He has 2-3 years left with the amount he's on.
Yes, I've never seen anyone age as fast as Branch in the past few years.
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Yes, I've never seen anyone age as fast as Branch in the past few years.
If you can post a comparison pic because i have not noticed that.
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I bet he could. Dorian Yates had the same "shape" and Warren has the potential to be bigger.
Too short to be bigger.
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First off, Branch is obviously reading this thread at this point.
If you read his article in MD last year HE ALMOST DIED competing in the Nationals. But what's more, it wasn't his fault - he wanted to go to the hospital but the idiot who was in the hotel with him didn't let him.
Guess who provided him with the diuretics? None other than Tom Prince, which he admitted on mayhem. Chances are he just told Branch how much to take and Branch listened to him. By 2001 Branch definitely had a lot of experience with bodybuilding drugs and what Tom gave him STILL almost killed him. Makes you wonder how much shit Tom was on!
:o thats what champs will do to be number 1 though. scary stuff.