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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt C on August 27, 2006, 01:14:55 PM
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Good observation. Frank looks awesome and if he can bring up some bodyparts, the bodybuilding kingdom will be his.
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imo he is another eddie moyzan/ mike matarazzo, big arms, thats it.
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Sergio destroys them both.
Sergio with modern pharmecuticals would be scary :o
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His forearms are massive
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Sergio destroys them both.
Sergio with modern pharmecuticals would be scary :o
Yeah I can't imagine him any better than he already was!
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You guys realize that the only thing Oliva needed to be just as good as bodybuilders today is bigger thighs and some better conditioning? As far as the thighs nobody of his time had them and as far as conditioning only a couple of guys did. But looking at the picture there none of those guys' v tapers even come close.
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(http://www.thephotoissue.com/supergallery/d/236-1/2004_ifbb_toronto_pro_003.jpg)
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Sergio destroys them both.
Sergio with modern pharmecuticals would be scary :o
Agreed 100%
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I was looking at some front double biceps comparisons from the 2004 Toronto Pro and realized just how far ahead of the game Frank is compared to some other seasoned pros. The only guy who has him beat in this pose in terms of waist to shoulder ratio is the Myth himself, Sergio Oliva.
hmmm, there is a resemblance. that is some ridiculous guns he got.
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Matt: Sergio is twice as wide as Frank. Frank could literally hide his torso behind Oliva's. Sergio's lats insertions started at his obliques. Franks lats start at around his lower chest area.
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Tommi torvildsen looks horrible in that pic.
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Others who have him beat:
Brian Buchanan and that guy who is in a coma.
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Others who have him beat:
Brian Buchanan and that guy who is in a coma.
Orville Burke?
how about Robby's front double bi?
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You guys realize that the only thing Oliva needed to be just as good as bodybuilders today is bigger thighs
You're kidding right? That pic there is of Oliva in his comeback when he was in his 40's. He had thighs when in his peak.
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/so5.jpg)
Look at the size of his waist compared to his thigh:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so184.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Oliva08.jpg)
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is that art atwood in the third pic? his lats look funky...
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Let's not forget Branch!
:o
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great pics of the myth.
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(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/RonnieColeman74.jpg)
the modern day sergio doing a great front double bi
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Ronnie's Biceps are super freaky, split, peak everything.
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more
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bump for the great shots
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/4.jpg)
will we ever see this kind of line up again?
classic shot.
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hulkster, that lineup of coleman, wheeler, and levrone is one of the best ever.
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/4.jpg)
will we ever see this kind of line up again?
classic shot.
Nope.. Kevin and Flex are retired and Ronnie will NEVER be that same again (just got worse every year)
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^ Look at those waists. Tiny! I think the mid-to-late 90's were some of the best physiques on the Olympia stage. Nasser, Shawn, Ronnie, Flex, Kev, Dorian, Cormier, etc etc.
I think we could see a similar lineup at the O. if Heath brings his winning Colorado/New York Pro physique with a little more mass, Jay remains in top form, Victor loses the synthol and comes in his 2001 condition with a bit more mass, and Gustavo and Gunter come in top shape.
Personally, I would like to see a truly top form Dennis, since I think he has everything to make it big.
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/4.jpg)
will we ever see this kind of line up again?
classic shot.
on that pic I think Flex has the best FDB, just the way he's hitting the shot, it's almost textbook perfect. I'm not talking about hardness and all that other stuff just the sheer execution of the pose, that's what a FDB should look like.
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^ I say it's close to textbook, but Ronnie's is closer. Textbook is legs close, feet pointing outward and all the rest which are done well. Flex's legs stray a bit, more of a Frank Zane style which looks awesome on Flex.
I was always under the assumption that either way was acceptable, I think flex's is more dramatic, I also think he's doing alot of little things to make the shot better, holding down the shoulder girdle, elbows forward, etc. I never liked the way Ron hit that pose.
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You're kidding right? That pic there is of Oliva in his comeback when he was in his 40's. He had thighs when in his peak.
(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/so5.jpg)
Look at the size of his waist compared to his thigh:
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/oliva/so184.jpg)
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Oliva08.jpg)
Thanks Don, you beat me to it!
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Thanks Don, you beat me to it!
Isn't it amazing? Sergio supposedly lost to Arnold but of all the pros from the 1960's and 1970's only Sergio could stand onstage today and have the potential to win. Arnold just didn't have the legs to compete today, but Sergio had everything. (Sure he'd need to be more cut, but that's just getting better nutrition before a contest, not building bigger quads/hams)
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had arnold continued he would have gotten the legs. in 74 he was huge. in 75 he only competed because of pumping iron.
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I was always under the assumption that either way was acceptable, I think flex's is more dramatic, I also think he's doing alot of little things to make the shot better, holding down the shoulder girdle, elbows forward, etc. I never liked the way Ron hit that pose.
Both Ronnie and Lee haney have always hit the double bi with their arms slightly off being parallel with the floor, held on a slight angle.
this is to showcase their incredible lats.
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Haney08.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/63.jpg)
ronnie's arms at his peak were unbelievable from the front :o
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Both Ronnie and Lee haney have always hit the double bi with their arms slightly off being parallel with the floor, held on a slight angle.
this is to showcase their incredible lats.
(http://digilander.libero.it/mikementzer/Haney08.jpg)
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1999britishgrandprix/63.jpg)
ronnie's arms at his peak were unbelievable from the front :o
Hulkster, Im glad you brought that up. IMO it also makes their arms look weak. If you look at Frank McGrath, and Sergio, they both kept their arms totally parallel to the ground. Very few bbers do this today. It makes their arms look even more impressive. I guess it helps to have massive full muscle bells and low insertion points
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Here is one for ya......
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Here is one for ya......
Lee looked pretty unhappy in that pose
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In Lee's first DVD he talked about wanting to be a freak and compete at 230 or more. He's changed his mind. I remember seeing Lee at 220 something on stage and he still had a real tight midsection. something he's never had is distension or gut. even when his conditioning wasn't the best his gut was never big. i think it would be cool to see him at that weight on stage again.