Toney Freeman said on the radio show tonight that he tore his pec using 315 on the smith machine.
He was doing Dorian's super intense routine at the time. And he blamed the smith for being faulty.
1) What is this Yates chest routine which destroys mortal pros?
2) has anyone ever seen a broken smith machine cause an injury?
Zone Capone tore every single muscle in his body!! Because he's HARDCORE!!! GRRRRRRR!!!
Zone Capone tore every single muscle in his body!! Because he's HARDCORE!!! GRRRRRRR!!!
Zone Capone tore every single muscle in his body!! Because he's HARDCORE!!! GRRRRRRR!!!
he's like some crazy swiss guy who wears yellow sunglasses and trains all hardcore?
You need to come more shredded next time. I could have seen quincy taking it based on the fact he was harder than you.I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.
I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.
I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.
I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.hahahaha...............rocket.......OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to come more shredded next time. I could have seen quincy taking it based on the fact he was harder than you.
ANY machine that DOES NOT involve your stabilizers can eventually cause injury, if he knew from the beginning of his sets that the machine was faulty, he shouldn't have been using it, if that's the case then it's his fault!
There is actually no such thing as "stabilizer" muscles. Just another large MYTH.
There is no such thing as taking out stabilizer muscles and there is no such thing as stabilizer muscles. Can you name the "Stabilizer" muscles? Nobody can.
I......can't........believe.......i t.......I actually agree with TA on something. Muscle's just know they are being worked, doesn't matter how, they only know to contract or not.
I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.
I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.
A machine can be as good as any free weight if you know what you are doing. The trick is to use all forms of resistance. Machines,Dumbells and Barbells. One is not necessairly better than the other if you are taking sets to failure.
I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.yes toney laying down the facts. 4 weeks of dieting bitches!!!!!! this olympia will be interesting.
there is no such thing as a stabilizer muscle - correct.
But some muscles are often classified as stabilizers if they are secondary groups whose function is removed when a motion is done on a machine and not a free weight, yet the motion is the same.
Or so a frog I licked told me.
Yet again you prove to everyone what the douche you are.
The "stabilizer" muscles is semantics you moron.
Any non-primary muscle being worked alongside the primary to provide stability.
I'm starting to feel like Woten... ::)
You are just another fat out of shape loser to me, Everyone knows how disgusting you look.hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you suggesting that "garraeth" considers Krispy Kreme a delicacy, Adonis?
Wait a minute, sarcasm. I thought you said you were a fat(ish) powerlifter and proud of it.i'm not fat at all, i can see the outline of abs, i'm not as lean as Adonis or Bast but i'm not fat by any means.
oh well, hell I can see the outline of my abs too...hahahaha, bullshit.
oh well, hell I can see the outline of my abs too...
Garreth is a fat piece of shit lard.hahahaha, are you suggesting that garraeth uses the old, "i'm a strongman, i'm not interested in being lean, only moving weight" as he downs his fourth cup of chocolate milk and fifth bowl of fruit loops, Adonis?
He is one of Getbigs biggest jokes for certain. I would dare him to post a picture, but I would get about 10 different excuses of why he can`t. He has never been lean. He has never been anything.
Just another fat, useless piece of garbage that does not even train let alone diet. I eclipsed him a long time ago in all areas.
While he struggles, I stride. He is getting nowhere and has been looking the same year after year with no improvement. What a waste. I get better each day.
hahahaha, are you suggesting that garraeth uses the old, "i'm a strongman, i'm not interested in being lean, only moving weight" as he downs his fourth cup of chocolate milk and fifth bowl of fruit loops, Adonis?
hahhahah Worse....He even grows facial hair or a beard to complete the "Stongman/fatass/insecure bad ass" look.hahahahaha, then he adds the shaved head and barbed wire tattoo for good measure, oh brother, gayer than buying your "woman" a dozen roses and coming home to find her in bed with another guy.
You guys know so much about me it's scary! Do you work out at the same gym? Or perhaps you've been peeping in through my bathroom window?
Gaerreth is a 300 lbs monster. He could crush your skull but he won't because he's a nice guy. True story.we're all terrified. ::)
we're all terrified. ::)
oh brother, gayer than buying your "woman" a dozen roses and coming home to find her in bed with another guy.not sure if I would call that gay sarc....more like sad. Gay would be....finding her in the bed with another guy...getting mad....going in the other room and putting the roses in a vase so they dont die
I'm hurt. :'( And TA I thought you loved me so...what happened to our relationship? Are you back with that man whore Jezebelle?
it's not a matter of fear, it's about respect. We all started lifting to get bigger and stronger. He has accomplished that to an extraordinary degree. Give the man some credit.
But I am stronger/bigger than Garreth has ever been. So what should I do?
I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.
Forget your own accomplishments for a moment and be happy for someone else's.
I can give credit where it is due,but I cannot give credit to one who has never given me respect. Its simple.
But I am stronger/bigger than Garreth has ever been. So what should I do?are you implying that "garraeth's" website, WPSE.com is merely a front for gay synthol using male prostitutes, Adonis?
not sure if I would call that gay sarc....more like sad. Gay would be....finding her in the bed with another guy...getting mad....going in the other room and putting the roses in a vase so they dont dieHAHAHAHAHA
There is actually no such thing as "stabilizer" muscles. Just another large MYTH.
There is no such thing as taking out stabilizer muscles and there is no such thing as stabilizer muscles. Can you name the "Stabilizer" muscles? Nobody can.
A machine can be as good as any free weight if you know what you are doing. The trick is to use all forms of resistance. Machines,Dumbells and Barbells. One is not necessairly better than the other if you are taking sets to failure.this is not true. there is no replacement for freeweight movements. i dont care how many smith squats you do, leg presses, extentions, hacks, ect...you will still be hardly able to walk after doing free weight squats for the first time. freeweights are better for strength because they affect the Stabilizing portions of you muscles allowing for greater core strength, greater balance and this translates to greater control
No Adonis, it's not a myth ::). Unlike bodybuilding, about 90% of athletes from all sports concentrate on stabilization training, I'm one of the ones who also trains most of my athletes and clients with this type of training. Stabilization training is basically training for function.
While I'm not going to go through the entire list of stabilizers but here are some groups that need stability training;
Deep abdominals (transverse abdominis, internal obliques), hip abductors and rotators including illiacus and psoas and scapula stabilizers including the four muscles of the rotator cuff.....anymore questions?
I tore it using 405lbs. I found out the machine was faulty a few years later after revisiting that gym. I don't need any pity i'm a big boy hell now i'm a real big boy so i'll be just fine. even with 3/4 of a pec at 6'2 300+lbs with a 31-32in waist i'm going to be in the mix real good!!! peace
But I am stronger/bigger than Garreth has ever been. So what should I do?
training them for sports specific function makes sense...I don't know if it does from a pure bodybuilding standpoint. I've never worried to much about training a stabilizer...I will take a few sessions to get "used' to doing a movement before I incorperate it into my routine so maybe I'm getting my stabilizers ready and just never thought about it. I just think if you walk around all day avoiding a machine because you're afraid you're not going to hit your stabilizers your taking it too far.
Machines are for women so you wouldn't of grown your chest with that nonsense anyways.
Exit this thread before an onslaught of owning begins. Your hero Arnold, he took a great liking to incline smiths... For verification, watch The Comeback.
Toney Freeman said on the radio show tonight that he tore his pec using 315 on the smith machine.
He was doing Dorian's super intense routine at the time. And he blamed the smith for being faulty.
1) What is this Yates chest routine which destroys mortal pros?
2) has anyone ever seen a broken smith machine cause an injury?
And your telling Toney Freeman not to use machines because he's still in the begginings of his development ::) k, buddy.
Get a job you little anal love tart.
His chest is not up to par. Kamali has a bigger chest then Toney.
nothing good can come from your posts on this thread ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
nothing good can come from your posts on this thread ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
His chest is not up to par. Kamali has a bigger chest then Toney.Alexx,
Yeah cause most people here can't accept the truth. I like Toney he is an xman but to advance among the elite group he has to take care of his weaknesses.
Alexx,
I be sure to send King my 1st place check and trophy. oh and i need your address so i can include a case of "Hatorade" and front row seats to the show cuz evidently your glasses need a new prescription. "I'll holla"!!! oh yeah, "Squad" handle my lightweight please... peace.
Alexx,
I be sure to send King my 1st place check and trophy. oh and i need your address so i can include a case of "Hatorade" and front row seats to the show cuz evidently your glasses need a new prescription. "I'll holla"!!! oh yeah, "Squad" handle my lightweight please... peace.
Toney,Toney , do you mind that on the back, he is going to put "ALL DRUGS "
Adonis Mr. Getbig 2006. What do you think? I am going to send you an autographed Adonis shirt as well. What size do I get you?
Alexx,
I be sure to send King my 1st place check and trophy. oh and i need your address so i can include a case of "Hatorade" and front row seats to the show cuz evidently your glasses need a new prescription. "I'll holla"!!! oh yeah, "Squad" handle my lightweight please... peace.
Toney,
are you doing anymore of shows for now or waiting until the "O"? I'd love to see you and Dillet go at it....if Paul's in shape that is...
I use free weight 90% of the time...peace
You seem to have made great strides with your chest development. My remark about Tamali was farfetched.
You need to use freeweights to bring it up even more.
I think you can get a great chest workout using dumbbells and machines
I don't think the Incline BB press is superior to the Smith incline press, mainly because the angle for the set incline bb press is too high, whereas you can usually adjust the angle better using an adjustable bench on the smith
Free weights are always superior to machines.
Is that so? You must a bodybuilding genius
Anyway, I think machines definitely have their place and are sometimes better than free weights, such as the example I mentioned above
Also, I think the Flex chest press at gold's is superior to the flat bb bench or db press. I think this because I have made significant improvements using it, but was at a road block beforehand. i still rely on incline db presses as the core of my chest routine, but I really believe machines can be very beneficial
Toney,
Adonis Mr. Getbig 2006. What do you think? I am going to send you an autographed Adonis shirt as well. What size do I get you?
WHAT WOULD BE HIS WEAKNESS?The shape
The PresentationThe muscle
The huge calves
The small waist
The Flat stomach
The total 6 pack ?
What exactly is the weakness
Thank you for your input you huge 175 pound monster!
Toney Freeman said on the radio show tonight that he tore his pec using 315 on the smith machine.
He was doing Dorian's super intense routine at the time. And he blamed the smith for being faulty.
1) What is this Yates chest routine which destroys mortal pros?
2) has anyone ever seen a broken smith machine cause an injury?