Author Topic: Toen pec using 315 on a Smith machine... (Read 12352 times)

240 is Back · « **on:** August 28, 2006, 10:18:33 PM »

Toney Freeman said on the radio show tonight that he tore his pec using 315 on the smith machine.

He was doing Dorian's super intense routine at the time. And he blamed the smith for being faulty.

1) What is this Yates chest routine which destroys mortal pros?

2) has anyone ever seen a broken smith machine cause an injury?

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:32:20 PM »

I tore my pec on an incline smith and I was only using 280lbs IIRC (max on flat 500 or so at the time). I was going to neck level and there was a tremendous stretch and tremendous tension on the tendon.

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:33:14 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 28, 2006, 10:18:33 PM

Toney Freeman said on the radio show tonight that he tore his pec using 315 on the smith machine.

He was doing Dorian's super intense routine at the time. And he blamed the smith for being faulty.

1) What is this Yates chest routine which destroys mortal pros?

2) has anyone ever seen a broken smith machine cause an injury?

ANY machine that DOES NOT involve your stabilizers can eventually cause injury, if he knew from the beginning of his sets that the machine was faulty, he shouldn't have been using it, if that's the case then it's his fault!

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:43:39 PM »

Quote from: garraeth on August 28, 2006, 10:42:44 PM

Zone Capone tore every single muscle in his body!! Because he's HARDCORE!!! GRRRRRRR!!!

LOL!

240 is Back · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2006, 10:50:46 PM »

Quote from: garraeth on August 28, 2006, 10:42:44 PM

Zone Capone tore every single muscle in his body!! Because he's HARDCORE!!! GRRRRRRR!!!

that dude also tore some of his neighbors' muscles. he's hardcore.

He gives squat racks DOMS.

shiftedShapes · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2006, 11:19:43 PM »

Quote from: garraeth on August 28, 2006, 10:42:44 PM

Zone Capone tore every single muscle in his body!! Because he's HARDCORE!!! GRRRRRRR!!!

haha I remember those pics, that guy was a nutjob

240 is Back · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2006, 11:23:41 PM »

he's like some crazy swiss guy who wears yellow sunglasses and trains all hardcore?

Hedgehog · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2006, 11:27:43 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 28, 2006, 11:23:41 PM

he's like some crazy swiss guy who wears yellow sunglasses and trains all hardcore?

Yes. Swiss.
I think he's from Switzerland.

YIP
Zack

Bast000 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2006, 11:29:26 PM »

what a dork

profreeman · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2006, 11:41:45 PM »

I tore it using 405lbs. I found out the machine was faulty a few years later after revisiting that gym. I don't need any pity i'm a big boy hell now i'm a real big boy so i'll be just fine. even with 3/4 of a pec at 6'2 300+lbs with a 31-32in waist i'm going to be in the mix real good!!! peace

rocket · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2006, 12:43:30 AM »

You need to come more shredded next time. I could have seen quincy taking it based on the fact he was harder than you.

amoney86 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2006, 12:45:39 AM »

If you listened to the show you would know he is in the MIDDLE of his diet attempting to peak at the Olympia.

profreeman · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2006, 12:57:51 AM »

Quote from: rocket on August 29, 2006, 12:43:30 AM

You need to come more shredded next time. I could have seen quincy taking it based on the fact he was harder than you.

I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.

rocket · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2006, 01:04:50 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 12:57:51 AM

I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.

Hah, no problem. I'm in australia - its difficult to listen live or turn up to the show

Wish you luck, I'm glad you won.

I'm well aware of your superiority in size and quality of physique. Its a testament to where you are that I'm talking about you being harder for the olympia and nothing else.

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2006, 01:35:02 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 12:57:51 AM

I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.

What weight do you plan to be at the O? Coleman and Cutler compete at the weight you did at this show.
If you plan on getting lower you gonna have a hard time placing well,dont you think so?

sarcasm · « **Reply #15 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:42:19 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 12:57:51 AM

I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.

hahahaha...............rocket.......OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fury · « **Reply #16 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:46:34 AM »

Quote from: rocket on August 29, 2006, 12:43:30 AM

You need to come more shredded next time. I could have seen quincy taking it based on the fact he was harder than you.

Rocket, you insignificant little pissant!!!! No one talks down to a SQUAD endorsed Pro such as Toney Freeman. He knows he's better than you and we know we're better than you and I'm pretty sure everyone else thinks that too. Now crawl back into your cave with those 12" arms and cry yourself to sleep.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #17 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:48:25 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on August 28, 2006, 10:33:14 PM

ANY machine that DOES NOT involve your stabilizers can eventually cause injury, if he knew from the beginning of his sets that the machine was faulty, he shouldn't have been using it, if that's the case then it's his fault!

There is actually no such thing as "stabilizer" muscles. Just another large MYTH.

There is no such thing as taking out stabilizer muscles and there is no such thing as stabilizer muscles. Can you name the "Stabilizer" muscles? Nobody can.

natural al · « **Reply #18 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:52:52 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 29, 2006, 06:48:25 AM

There is actually no such thing as "stabilizer" muscles. Just another large MYTH.

There is no such thing as taking out stabilizer muscles and there is no such thing as stabilizer muscles. Can you name the "Stabilizer" muscles? Nobody can.

I......can't........believe.......i t.......I actually agree with TA on something. Muscle's just know they are being worked, doesn't matter how, they only know to contract or not.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #19 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:57:20 AM »

Quote from: natural al on August 29, 2006, 06:52:52 AM

I......can't........believe.......i t.......I actually agree with TA on something. Muscle's just know they are being worked, doesn't matter how, they only know to contract or not.

A machine can be as good as any free weight if you know what you are doing. The trick is to use all forms of resistance. Machines,Dumbells and Barbells. One is not necessairly better than the other if you are taking sets to failure.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #20 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:00:55 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 12:57:51 AM

I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.

hahaha, yes Toney is owning tiny tit bitches already. I love it! hahahaha

HUGEPECS · « **Reply #21 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:02:02 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 12:57:51 AM

I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.

dont worry big boi, I'm gonna be at the O. I see you top six easily. good luck

natural al · « **Reply #22 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:02:18 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on August 29, 2006, 06:57:20 AM

A machine can be as good as any free weight if you know what you are doing. The trick is to use all forms of resistance. Machines,Dumbells and Barbells. One is not necessairly better than the other if you are taking sets to failure.

.........I agree....again. What is this? The bizarro world?

240 is Back · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:45:11 AM »

there is no such thing as a stabilizer muscle - correct.
But some muscles are often classified as stabilizers if they are secondary groups whose function is removed when a motion is done on a machine and not a free weight, yet the motion is the same.

Or so a frog I licked told me.

delta9mda · « **Reply #24 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:52:57 AM »

Quote from: profreeman on August 29, 2006, 12:57:51 AM

I started my diet Aug 1st. I plan on peaking Sept 29th. It takes more than hardness to be successful in this sport. I was plenty hard for a little over four weeks of dieting and almost 290lbs. So BTFU and think about that for a minute. You need to start coming to the show rather than looking at pictures to make assessments. If you need a ticket to the show, holla at a playa and I might be able to hook you up!...Peace.

yes toney laying down the facts. 4 weeks of dieting bitches!!!!!! this olympia will be interesting.