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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Special Ed on September 03, 2006, 08:24:14 PM
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Okay folks. Some people say Wolf should have beaten King. And some say
the earth is flat that King deserved to beat Wolf. Well, since the two were compared so often, why don't we just break it down photo-by-photo. Photos don't lie...people do.
First Photo...Front Relaxed
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030647.JPG)
Score: Wolf: 1; King 0
Rear Lat Spread
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030747.JPG)
Wolf: 2; King 0
Rear Double Biceps
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030746.JPG)
Wolf: 3; King:0
Most Muscular
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030754.JPG)
Wolf: 4; King 0
Side Tricep:
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030734.JPG)
Wolf: 5; King 0
Abs/Thigh
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030750.JPG)
Wolf: 6; King 0
Chest/Biceps
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030745.JPG)
Wolf: 6; King 1
Front Lat Spread
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030652.JPG)
Wolf: 7; King 1
Front Double Biceps (2 Photos)
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030742.JPG)
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030649.JPG)
They both look crappy there, so let's call that one a draw.
Final Score: Wolf: 7.5; King: 1.5
If any King supporters can offer photographic evidence that King beat Dennis in 5/9 of the above poses, please post your (undoctored) photos here.
Special "Taking Back Sunday: This Photograph is Proof" Ed
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im wondering how in the world some people were stating in another thread that King had him beat on conditioning....You got to be kidding me...Wolf is way better conditioned then King...just the seperation in muslce alone should have had wolf place well above king
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Honestly it's not even close. Wolf owns Tamali so bad it's hard to believe they are even in the same callout. Wolf has detail and shape Tamali will never in a million years have. This result is flat out disgusting.
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Tamali the fucking waterballoon won.........HOW IN THE HELL IS THIS!!!! Are we no awarding half-assed dipshits?????
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Special Ed,
I know it's easy to believe things like your own eyes, the audience reaction, experienced pros, and things like that. But a desk full of IFBB judges made this decision. The sponsor puts on a good show, and their athletes always seem to do well in them.
Also I heard in college that a blue blazer makes you infallible to questioning.
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that's right you guys are forgetting that tamali beats wolf in the muscletech contract
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Special Ed,
I know it's easy to believe things like your own eyes, the audience reaction, experienced pros, and things like that. But a desk full of IFBB judges made this decision. The sponsor puts on a good show, and their athletes always seem to do well in them.
Also I heard in college that a blue blazer makes you infallible to questioning.
NON should ever question the ifbb judging ever.........They are the experts not us "The Peanut Gallery"......Right Bob????
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I was there and if you think the pics do Wolf justice in proving the claims you make, just know that sitting about 30 feet from the stage, I'll be the first to tell you that Wolf annihilated Kamali on every single pose. Everyone sitting around me agreed that although Kamali's posing routine was, indeed, very entertaining, due to the fact that this was a bodybuilding contest, Wolf should have gotten 4th while Kamali either 5th or 6th.
I completely agree that the only reason Kamali would have gotten that placing was because since neither Wolf or Kamali would leave a dent at the Olympia, the most entertaining/controversial athlete has to be Kamali.
Who would you prefer to see beaten, hear crying and place last at the Olympia?
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http://flashrob.com/king/king.htm
thanks to spec ed for fishing out the pics
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Front Double Bicep: King
Front Lat Spread: King
Abdominals & Thigh: Wolff
Side Chest: King
Side Tricep: Wolff
Rear Double Bicep: King
Rear Lat Spread: Wolff
Most Muscular: Wolff
Relaxed Round--Front/Rear: Wolff
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I was there and if you think the pics do Wolf justice in proving the claims you make, just know that sitting about 30 feet from the stage, I'll be the first to tell you that Wolf annihilated Kamali on every single pose. Everyone sitting around me agreed that although Kamali's posing routine was, indeed, very entertaining, due to the fact that this was a bodybuilding contest, Wolf should have gotten 4th while Kamali either 5th or 6th.
I completely agree that the only reason Kamali would have gotten that placing was because since neither Wolf or Kamali would leave a dent at the Olympia, the most entertaining/controversial athlete has to be Kamali.
Who would you prefer to see beaten, hear crying and placed last at the Olympia?
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So true!! Very well said.
Kamali might have Gotten Wolf on the side chest, but he seems - by the pics - to have destroyed Kamali every where else. Wolf's low back is crazy and his side triceps over Kamili's? Not even in the same league. Just my opinion.
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THATS WHY I LEFT THE (IFBB) :-\ Amazing Results!!!!!!
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Is it me or did Dillet have his back surgically removed?
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THATS WHY I LEFT THE (IFBB) :-\ Amazing Results!!!!!!
props for being honest!
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Is it just me or does Kamali just look like he's "there"? No lines...no flow...he just looks...there...
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Is it me or did Dillet have his back surgically removed?
Yes, you're right. Looks like Claude has gone through a similar surgery:
http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030409.JPG
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Lots of pros get gifts, especially pros who (like it or not, believe it or not) are more popular like King Kamali. His name is out there and it gets him recognition. Any pro could get that if they did what he did (talk a lot). Either way, getting a gift is no big rarity in the IFBB. King is qualified for the Olympia now and so be it. Good for him. I look forward to seeing how he does at the O.
Exactly.
This shit happens all the time. Nothing new. Kamali, for better or worse, has made himself a name. How he beats Wolfe is beyond me.
As I have said before........shady judging.....yet another reason why bbing is not a sport!
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This call is one of those that's gonna be in the history books... :o. Dennis got the shaft big time.
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This call is one of those that's gonna be in the history books... :o. Dennis got the shaft big time.
I can't say I'm shocked.
Again, it happens all the time.
It's shocking when they (judges) get it right (placings).
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Wolf lower back is mad!! :o
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I can't say I'm shocked.
Again, it happens all the time.
It's shocking when they (judges) get it right (placings).
They got it right at the Europa.
They must have been less drunk than usual that day. :-\
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Why doesn't Wolf know how to do a front double biceps pose? He puts his arms up too high and there is a lump under one arm that is not attractive. King isn't much better on some of these poses but his experience helped him look better than he was.
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Why doesn't Wolf know how to do a front double biceps pose? He puts his arms up too high and there is a lump under one arm that is not attractive. King isn't much better on some of these poses but his experience helped him look better than he was.
holds his shoulders too high and internally rotates his arms too much as well IMO...
Milos will help him fix it I expect.
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Why doesn't Wolf know how to do a front double biceps pose? He puts his arms up too high and there is a lump under one arm that is not attractive. King isn't much better on some of these poses but his experience helped him look better than he was.
I wonder that myself Vince. Perhaps he was mid pose (I doubt). He does look like he was squashed in there though, might have been worrying that Kamali would classlessly push him away :)
But Look at Dillet. He can't pose atall. You just have to wonder why the hell this guy spends his life working on his body only to pose it absolutely terribly.
Some sort of strange mental condition.
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Before my last contest I used to pose every night for about 20 minutes and used a rear view mirror to check how my back poses were. I discovered that the way you look best in the double biceps is the same front and back. Wolf does the DB well from the back. So he should have done the front DB that way. I mean that is THE standard bodybuilding pose and if you cannot do that one right I don't know what to say. Wolf makes his upper body look weird in that pose. Little things like that can cost you in contests.
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If you look at the pics he definitely looks like he's real close to Kamali's arm doing the pose. I know what you're saying, I seriously doubt he would stuff up the double bi because he didn't know how to do it. I mean almost anybody growing any muscle could do the most effective double bi for their physique. Its just one that is done.. alot.
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actually i think dennis trys to crunch his abs down when doing this pose which hurts him.
he needs to take a deeper breath, hold his ribcage up higher, keep his shoulders down more and hold his elbows SLIGHTLY in front of the line of his body.
learn from the master...
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Buchanon did this pose pretty well too.
so does the chickster!
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This is my interpretation from the good ole days of 1970 then 75.
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I just showed my wife each picture, and had her comment on who looked like the better athlete in each pose.
She chose Wolf in each pose...except the ab and thigh ???
Well, I think she got the right guy, at least.
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To give King some credit, he doesn't pull up too badly in some of those shots. Tough call.
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King beat Dennis because he presented his body better. Now did he actually have a better physique than Dennis--hell no--but his presentation basically smoked Dennis'...
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Self - Bump!
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http://flashrob.com/king/king.htm
thanks to spec ed for fishing out the pics
Wow. In those large pics it's even more obvious that Wolf beats King by a mile. But did Wolf go to Pavol Jablonicky's school of posing?! Why does he pull his arms/shoulders up to his ears in the front-double-bicep pose?! (And those calves are VERY poor)
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Wow. In those large pics it's even more obvious that Wolf beats King by a mile. But did Wolf go to Pavol Jablonicky's school of posing?! Why does he pull his arms/shoulders up to his ears in the front-double-bicep pose?! (And those calves are VERY poor)
yeah, special ed posted the pics and I just built the revolving gallery. When you have a promoter (shawn ray) today, questioning the judging... that's HUGE.
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Front Double Bicep: King
Front Lat Spread: King
Abdominals & Thigh: Wolff
Side Chest: King
Side Tricep: Wolff
Rear Double Bicep: King
Rear Lat Spread: Wolff
Most Muscular: Wolff
Relaxed Round--Front/Rear: Wolff
King, why do you post under "MisterGX"?
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King beat Dennis because he presented his body better. Now did he actually have a better physique than Dennis--hell no--but his presentation basically smoked Dennis'...
King, why do you post under "MisterGX"?
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King beat Dennis because he presented his body better. Now did he actually have a better physique than Dennis--hell
Hi King.
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;)