Author Topic: King vs. Wolf - Posedown pics / evidence speaks (Read 9735 times)

Special Ed · « **on:** September 03, 2006, 08:24:14 PM »

Okay folks. Some people say Wolf should have beaten King. And some say ~~the earth is flat~~ that King deserved to beat Wolf. Well, since the two were compared so often, why don't we just break it down photo-by-photo. Photos don't lie...people do.

First Photo...Front Relaxed

Score: Wolf: 1; King 0
Rear Lat Spread

Wolf: 2; King 0
Rear Double Biceps

Wolf: 3; King:0
Most Muscular

Wolf: 4; King 0
Side Tricep:

Wolf: 5; King 0
Abs/Thigh

Wolf: 6; King 0
Chest/Biceps

Wolf: 6; King 1
Front Lat Spread

Wolf: 7; King 1
Front Double Biceps (2 Photos)

They both look crappy there, so let's call that one a draw.
Final Score: Wolf: 7.5; King: 1.5

If any King supporters can offer photographic evidence that King beat Dennis in 5/9 of the above poses, please post your (undoctored) photos here.

Special "Taking Back Sunday: This Photograph is Proof" Ed

Wombat · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:27:56 PM »

im wondering how in the world some people were stating in another thread that King had him beat on conditioning....You got to be kidding me...Wolf is way better conditioned then King...just the seperation in muslce alone should have had wolf place well above king

corinth · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:28:29 PM »

Honestly it's not even close. Wolf owns Tamali so bad it's hard to believe they are even in the same callout. Wolf has detail and shape Tamali will never in a million years have. This result is flat out disgusting.

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:29:06 PM »

Tamali the fucking waterballoon won.........HOW IN THE HELL IS THIS!!!! Are we no awarding half-assed dipshits?

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240 is Back · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:32:17 PM »

Special Ed,

I know it's easy to believe things like your own eyes, the audience reaction, experienced pros, and things like that. But a desk full of IFBB judges made this decision. The sponsor puts on a good show, and their athletes always seem to do well in them.

Also I heard in college that a blue blazer makes you infallible to questioning.

gcb · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:34:47 PM »

that's right you guys are forgetting that tamali beats wolf in the muscletech contract

JaggyShortBuff · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:35:03 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on September 03, 2006, 08:32:17 PM

Special Ed,

I know it's easy to believe things like your own eyes, the audience reaction, experienced pros, and things like that. But a desk full of IFBB judges made this decision. The sponsor puts on a good show, and their athletes always seem to do well in them.

Also I heard in college that a blue blazer makes you infallible to questioning.

NON should ever question the ifbb judging ever.........They are the experts not us "The Peanut Gallery"......Right Bob?

OneMoreRep · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:39:46 PM »

I was there and if you think the pics do Wolf justice in proving the claims you make, just know that sitting about 30 feet from the stage, I'll be the first to tell you that Wolf annihilated Kamali on every single pose. Everyone sitting around me agreed that although Kamali's posing routine was, indeed, very entertaining, due to the fact that this was a bodybuilding contest, Wolf should have gotten 4th while Kamali either 5th or 6th.

I completely agree that the only reason Kamali would have gotten that placing was because since neither Wolf or Kamali would leave a dent at the Olympia, the most entertaining/controversial athlete has to be Kamali.

Who would you prefer to see ~~beaten~~, hear ~~crying~~ and place ~~last~~ at the Olympia?
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240 is Back · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:40:48 PM »

http://flashrob.com/king/king.htm

thanks to spec ed for fishing out the pics

MisterGX · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:41:56 PM »

Front Double Bicep: King
Front Lat Spread: King
Abdominals & Thigh: Wolff
Side Chest: King
Side Tricep: Wolff
Rear Double Bicep: King
Rear Lat Spread: Wolff
Most Muscular: Wolff

Relaxed Round--Front/Rear: Wolff

Crusher · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2006, 08:53:31 PM »

Quote from: OneMoreRep on September 03, 2006, 08:39:46 PM

I was there and if you think the pics do Wolf justice in proving the claims you make, just know that sitting about 30 feet from the stage, I'll be the first to tell you that Wolf annihilated Kamali on every single pose. Everyone sitting around me agreed that although Kamali's posing routine was, indeed, very entertaining, due to the fact that this was a bodybuilding contest, Wolf should have gotten 4th while Kamali either 5th or 6th.

I completely agree that the only reason Kamali would have gotten that placing was because since neither Wolf or Kamali would leave a dent at the Olympia, the most entertaining/controversial athlete has to be Kamali.

Who would you prefer to see ~~beaten~~, hear ~~crying~~ and placed ~~last~~ at the Olympia?
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So true!! Very well said.

Kamali might have Gotten Wolf on the side chest, but he seems - by the pics - to have destroyed Kamali every where else. Wolf's low back is crazy and his side triceps over Kamili's? Not even in the same league. Just my opinion.

Sami The Black-smith · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2006, 09:28:57 PM »

THATS WHY I LEFT THE (IFBB) $:-\$ Amazing Results!!!!!!

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2006, 09:34:53 PM »

Is it me or did Dillet have his back surgically removed?

240 is Back · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2006, 09:35:03 PM »

Quote from: MuscleMania-Pro on September 03, 2006, 09:28:57 PM

THATS WHY I LEFT THE (IFBB) $:-\$ Amazing Results!!!!!!

props for being honest!

TheEgoCrusher · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2006, 09:37:18 PM »

Is it just me or does Kamali just look like he's "there"? No lines...no flow...he just looks...there...

titusisback · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2006, 09:40:26 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on September 03, 2006, 09:34:53 PM

Is it me or did Dillet have his back surgically removed?

Yes, you're right. Looks like Claude has gone through a similar surgery:
http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/montreal_pro_2006/men_prejudging/P9030409.JPG

gordiano · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2006, 10:14:07 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on September 03, 2006, 08:38:40 PM

Lots of pros get gifts, especially pros who (like it or not, believe it or not) are more popular like King Kamali. His name is out there and it gets him recognition. Any pro could get that if they did what he did (talk a lot). Either way, getting a gift is no big rarity in the IFBB. King is qualified for the Olympia now and so be it. Good for him. I look forward to seeing how he does at the O.

Exactly.

This shit happens all the time. Nothing new. Kamali, for better or worse, has made himself a name. How he beats Wolfe is beyond me.

As I have said before........shady judging.....yet another reason why bbing is not a sport!

Danny · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2006, 10:16:42 PM »

This call is one of those that's gonna be in the history books...

. Dennis got the shaft big time.

gordiano · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2006, 10:18:48 PM »

Quote from: Danny on September 03, 2006, 10:16:42 PM

This call is one of those that's gonna be in the history books... . Dennis got the shaft big time.

I can't say I'm shocked.

Again, it happens all the time.

It's shocking when they (judges) get it right (placings).

IFBBwannaB · « **Reply #19 on:** September 03, 2006, 11:35:27 PM »

Wolf lower back is mad!!

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #20 on:** September 03, 2006, 11:39:07 PM »

Quote from: gordiano on September 03, 2006, 10:18:48 PM

I can't say I'm shocked.

Again, it happens all the time.

It's shocking when they (judges) get it right (placings).

They got it right at the Europa.

They must have been less drunk than usual that day. $:-\$

Vince B · « **Reply #21 on:** September 04, 2006, 03:24:07 AM »

Why doesn't Wolf know how to do a front double biceps pose? He puts his arms up too high and there is a lump under one arm that is not attractive. King isn't much better on some of these poses but his experience helped him look better than he was.

jwb · « **Reply #22 on:** September 04, 2006, 03:27:02 AM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on September 04, 2006, 03:24:07 AM

Why doesn't Wolf know how to do a front double biceps pose? He puts his arms up too high and there is a lump under one arm that is not attractive. King isn't much better on some of these poses but his experience helped him look better than he was.

holds his shoulders too high and internally rotates his arms too much as well IMO...

Milos will help him fix it I expect.

rocket · « **Reply #23 on:** September 04, 2006, 03:34:10 AM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on September 04, 2006, 03:24:07 AM

Why doesn't Wolf know how to do a front double biceps pose? He puts his arms up too high and there is a lump under one arm that is not attractive. King isn't much better on some of these poses but his experience helped him look better than he was.

I wonder that myself Vince. Perhaps he was mid pose (I doubt). He does look like he was squashed in there though, might have been worrying that Kamali would classlessly push him away

But Look at Dillet. He can't pose atall. You just have to wonder why the hell this guy spends his life working on his body only to pose it absolutely terribly.

Some sort of strange mental condition.

Vince B · « **Reply #24 on:** September 04, 2006, 03:41:05 AM »

Before my last contest I used to pose every night for about 20 minutes and used a rear view mirror to check how my back poses were. I discovered that the way you look best in the double biceps is the same front and back. Wolf does the DB well from the back. So he should have done the front DB that way. I mean that is THE standard bodybuilding pose and if you cannot do that one right I don't know what to say. Wolf makes his upper body look weird in that pose. Little things like that can cost you in contests.