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all bullshit lifts as follows
Bench Press 495 for 5
Floor Presses 405 for 5
Incline db presses 200 for 8
Barbell curls 245 for 8-10
Preacher curls 200 for 8-10
Hammer curls 150 for 8-10
Alternate curls 120 for 8-10
Seated military presses 405 for 8
DB lateral raises 100 for 8-10
Lying extensions 245 for 5
Dumbbell kickbacks 100 for 10
Deadlifts 700+ for 5
Barbell rows 495 for 10
all bullshit, discuss.
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maybe he could do 700 for 5 on the deads, but those other lifts are fishy
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Yes, i want to see those kickbacks :-\
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maybe he could do 700 for 5 on the deads, but those other lifts are fishy
hahahaha, he couldn't roll 700, he struggled so hard on 495 for 5 on BFTO that i thought they were going to have to call an ambulance for him.
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Haha, maybe he used a new muscletech product?
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=90053.0
I also hear craig's gym is on ebay
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all bullshit lifts as follows
Bench Press 495 for 5
Floor Presses 405 for 5
Incline db presses 200 for 8
Barbell curls 245 for 8-10
Preacher curls 200 for 8-10
Hammer curls 150 for 8-10
Alternate curls 120 for 8-10
Seated military presses 405 for 8
DB lateral raises 100 for 8-10
Lying extensions 245 for 5
Dumbbell kickbacks 100 for 10
Deadlifts 700+ for 5
Barbell rows 495 for 10
all bullshit, discuss.
So tell me Mr. Hypocrite, are you going to post a new thread tomorrow and claim that maybe he does do these lifts?
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So tell me Mr. Hypocrite, are you going to post a new thread tomorrow and claim that maybe he does do these lifts?
meltdown.
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I'm having a meltdown?!?!?
LMFAO!
It's called a bitch-slapping!
You'd think 10K posts would have taught you a thing or two . . .
So what is it M. Hypocrite, are you coming back tomorrow with you lips glued to Jonnie's dick?
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all bullshit lifts as follows
Bench Press 495 for 5
Floor Presses 405 for 5
Incline db presses 200 for 8
Barbell curls 245 for 8-10
Preacher curls 200 for 8-10
Hammer curls 150 for 8-10
Alternate curls 120 for 8-10
Seated military presses 405 for 8
DB lateral raises 100 for 8-10
Lying extensions 245 for 5
Dumbbell kickbacks 100 for 10
Deadlifts 700+ for 5
Barbell rows 495 for 10
all bullshit, discuss.
I'd wonder about those preacher curls. If you put 200 on the bar and attempted 8 reps in good form with full extension to contraction you'd probably tear your bicep tendon. Standing BB curls would make 200 lbs more beleivable as you can cheat the bar past that sticking point to add reps. Dumbbll kickbacks seem a bit heavy (I only use 30-35 lbs but dont tell anyone ;). Saw him do 90-100 lb. Laterals on W4TW show with Bob. Just look at those traps. Everything else is entirely believable IMO. JJ and Branch are both tremendously strong guys.
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I'm having a meltdown?!?!?
LMFAO!
It's called a bitch-slapping!
You'd think 10K posts would have taught you a thing or two . . .
So what is it M. Hypocrite, are you coming back tomorrow with you lips glued to Jonnie's dick?
hahahaha, nuclear meltdown #2............Johnnie is a liar plain and simple.
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I'd wonder about those preacher curls. If you put 200 on the bar and attempted 8 reps in good form with full extension to contraction you'd probably tear your bicep tendon. Standing BB curls would make 200 lbs more beleivable as you can cheat the bar past that sticking point to add reps. Dumbbll kickbacks seem a bit heavy (I only use 30-35 lbs but dont tell anyone ;). Saw him do 90-100 lb. Laterals on W4TW show with Bob. Just look at those traps. Everything else is entirely believable IMO. JJ and Branch are both tremendously strong guys.
do you honestly believe that a 235lb. guy BARBELL SHOULDER PRESSES 405 SEATED FOR 8 REPS?
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do you honestly believe that a 235lb. guy BARBELL SHOULDER PRESSES 405 SEATED FOR 8 REPS?
Maybe. Those are not strict reps I'm sure and possible (not by me of course) given a competent spotter, no deep arching of the lower back, and a smith machine. I believe Kevin Levrone came close to this in his M3 DVD. If a guy can bench 495 for 5 then obviously his delts are quite strong as well.
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Maybe. Those are not strict reps I'm sure and possible (not by me of course) given a competent spotter, no deep arching of the lower back, and a smith machine. I believe Kevin Levrone came close to this in his M3 DVD. If a guy can bench 495 for 5 then obviously his delts are quite strong as well.
i would bet anythiing i have that he can't do that for full reps with a barbell seated, Levrone did a few half reps in the Smith machine with 4 plates so that's probably 375-380 or so, not the same as a 405 barbell.
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hahahaha, nuclear meltdown #2............Johnnie is a liar plain and simple.
Good Lord! You call him a liar yet . . . . LMFAO! The IQ of an olive, you have!
I've shown over the last 2-3 days on these boards what a hypocritical merkin you are. You make a comment, realise what a dickhead you are for making those comments, come back a few minutes later, post another thread completley contradiciting you first one - and hope people are as stupid as you look and won't notice it. WRONG!
Bitch slapping of mega proportions!
Stick a fork into you, you're done!
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hahahaha, he couldn't roll 700, he struggled so hard on 495 for 5 on BFTO that i thought they were going to have to call an ambulance for him.
Maybe you haven't seen the video of him deadlifting 675 for 3 deadstop reps. ::)
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Maybe you haven't seen the video of him deadlifting 675 for 3 deadstop reps. ::)
hahahaha, the funny thing is that you'd be agreeing with this post if it wasn't me who posted it, you're a big powerlifting historian, do you believe he can barbell press 405 for 8 seated?
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Me too. Full reps would be asking for a career ending injury. I don't believe the presses were free weights from the beginning. Free weight BB Presses are not really necessary IMO b/c you spend most of your strength trying to keep the BB from going fowards or backwards instead of the necessary up and down motion for delt work.
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I heard he spends time with retarded 3 larmed orphans and volunteers to clean the bedsores at his local care facility.
Then he rescues cats from trees
Then he lifts weights and wins shows.
what a guy.
word
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hahahaha, he couldn't roll 700, he struggled so hard on 495 for 5 on BFTO that i thought they were going to have to call an ambulance for him.
to be fair that was pre-contest and he admitted he wasn't going all out. Here's a video of 675 for 3, also apparently pre-contest. Offseason weights are always heavier - you know that . . .
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sarcasm: Branch already offered to have you go and train with him and Johnnie. You should take him up on it. Sounds like a better vacation than going to some third world
dive resort
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hahahaha, the funny thing is that you'd be agreeing with this post if it wasn't me who posted it, you're a big powerlifting historian, do you believe he can barbell press 405 for 8 seated?
The only problem with your post is that he never claimed any of those lifts. More than likely they are the fabrications of a magazine writer. Everyone knows that magazine articles are bullshit. ::)
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sarcasm: Branch already offered to have you go and train with him and Johnnie. You should take him up on it. Sounds like a better vacation than going to some third world dive resort
yeah watching a couple of 5'5" juicers "train" is my idea of a great vacation. ::)
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The only problem with your post is that he never claimed any of those lifts. More than likely they are the fabrications of a magazine writer. Everyone knows that magazine articles are bullshit. ::)
you didn't answer the question, do you think he can do it?
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sarcasm: Branch already offered to have you go and train with him and Johnnie. You should take him up on it. Sounds like a better vacation than going to some third world dive resort
Seriously? Thats sounds awesome. If you're in the area you should take him up on that offer.
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Seriously? Thats sounds awesome. If you're in the area you should take him up on that offer.
no, looking at hot bitches on the beach in thongs is a great vacation, maybe watching two midgets train is great if you're a homo.
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you didn't answer the question, do you think he can do it?
Of course he can't do it dipshit. HE NEVER CLAIMED HE COULD. Blame the magazine writers for making shit up.
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do you honestly believe that a 235lb. guy BARBELL SHOULDER PRESSES 405 SEATED FOR 8 REPS?
i think so his lifts are all bull shit..ronnie coleman has maxed out on 405lbs for 1 rep and how can johnnie shoulder press 405 for 8...johnnie is a liar..some of those lifts make ronnies lift seem light..no way johnnie is stronger than ronnie.ronnie has proved on video most of his heavy lifts..ronnie has proved that he can squat and deadlift 800lbs for 2 reps,he has done 495lbs barbell rows for 8 reps,in flex mag he has done 405lbs seated military press for 1 rep max,he has benched 495lbs for 6 reps..JOJ is nothing compared to big ron..ronnie has proved that he can lift heavy weights but johnnie has yet to prove that..
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i think so his lifts are all bull shit..ronnie coleman has maxed out on 405lbs for 1 rep and how can johnnie shoulder press 405 for 8...johnnie is a liar..some of those lifts make ronnies lift seem light..no way johnnie is stronger than ronnie.ronnie has proved on video most of his heavy lifts..ronnie has proved that he can squat and deadlift 800lbs for 2 reps,he has done 495lbs barbell rows for 8 reps,in flex mag he has done 405lbs seated military press for 1 rep max,he has benched 495lbs for 6 reps..JOJ is nothing compared to big ron..ronnie has proved that he can lift heavy weights but johnnie has yet to prove that..
First off, whereever you get this claim of 405x1 shoulder press for Ron is simply false. Ronnie does not max out on shoulder press, why the f*ck would he ??? Secondly, I don't think Ron is the strongest presser we have seen in bodybuilding....that would be levrone ;) In BFTO 2002, Ronnie at 275lbs does 315lb incline 10 reps, whereas Levrone is on flat doing 405 for an EASY 12.
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all bullshit lifts as follows
Bench Press 495 for 5
Floor Presses 405 for 5
Incline db presses 200 for 8
Barbell curls 245 for 8-10
Preacher curls 200 for 8-10
Hammer curls 150 for 8-10
Alternate curls 120 for 8-10
Seated military presses 405 for 8
DB lateral raises 100 for 8-10
Lying extensions 245 for 5
Dumbbell kickbacks 100 for 10
Deadlifts 700+ for 5
Barbell rows 495 for 10
all bullshit, discuss.
wats your source man..from where did ya got these list of lifts from..
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First off, whereever you get this claim of 405x1 shoulder press for Ron is simply false. Ronnie does not max out on shoulder press, why the f*ck would he ??? Secondly, I don't think Ron is the strongest presser we have seen in bodybuilding....that would be levrone ;) In BFTO 2002, Ronnie at 275lbs does 315lb incline 10 reps, whereas Levrone is on flat doing 405 for an EASY 12.
dude there are some pro bodybuilders who lift heavy at a lighter weight..ronnie in offseason is like pressing monster..and about his 405 for 1 rep even chris cormier said that coleman has maxed out on 405lbs for 1 rep..both behind the neck and front barbell presses..coleman is a fuckin iron god
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true dat Bro.
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Johnnie did the 100 lbs dumbells laterals on one of the War of The Worlds with Bob ...Its the video where he train with Johnnie , i dont exactly remember how much reps he dows, but im pretty sure its more than 8 (but dont quote me on that)
For someone who did 800 for a single, 700 for 5 its not that impossible too...
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First off, whereever you get this claim of 405x1 shoulder press for Ron is simply false. Ronnie does not max out on shoulder press, why the f*ck would he ??? Secondly, I don't think Ron is the strongest presser we have seen in bodybuilding....that would be levrone ;) In BFTO 2002, Ronnie at 275lbs does 315lb incline 10 reps, whereas Levrone is on flat doing 405 for an EASY 12.
wrong, Ronnie did 405 for 9 on the incline on Cost of Redemption with a bad shoulder, he's easily as strong as Levrone on pressing movements.
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wrong, Ronnie did 405 for 9 on the incline on Cost of Redemption with a bad shoulder, he's easily as strong as Levrone on pressing movements.
Yeah, Cost of redemption is OFFSEASON for ronnie....Levrone did 405 for 12 12 days out of the olympia well past his prime. Back in 96 bfto he did 500lbs for 3 or 4 reps. Could you image levrone's offseason strength if he had bulked up to 320 like ronnie :o
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Kevin Levrone was awesome.
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Gakic does wonders............. ::)
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Yeah, Cost of redemption is OFFSEASON for ronnie....Levrone did 405 for 12 12 days out of the olympia well past his prime. Back in 96 bfto he did 500lbs for 3 or 4 reps. Could you image levrone's offseason strength if he had bulked up to 320 like ronnie :o
that's just the point he couldn't have bulked to that point, 270 or so was his max and no amout of GH, insulin, roids, food, supplements would push him over that so Ronnie did 5 reps with 500 on COR so he's stronger.
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Actually after the 96 Arnold Classic Levrone bulked up to over 285lbs....and let's see he benched 500 for 3 reps weighing 254 12 days out, so it's pretty clear he could do fairly more with 30 more lbs ;)
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Actually after the 96 Arnold Classic Levrone bulked up to over 285lbs....and let's see he benched 500 for 3 reps weighing 254 12 days out, so it's pretty clear he could do fairly more with 30 more lbs ;)
he was never 285 in his life.
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he was never 285 in his life.
yep. 1996 offseason, one of the few times he bulked up. Come on man, he was 255 shredded to the bone in 96 olympia, 98 and 99. 285 bulked up is hardly unimaginable.
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yep. 1996 offseason, one of the few times he bulked up. Come on man, he was 255 shredded to the bone in 96 olympia, 98 and 99. 285 bulked up is hardly unimaginable.
you believe he was 285 because him or a magazine claimed it? for the record i don't believe that Ronnie is 315 offseason either, more like 290 or so, these guys all exaggerate their weights.
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I think the most kevin bulked upto was around 270.
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I think the most kevin bulked upto was around 270.
exactly.
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hey, we can only go with what they give us, correct? Dorian did say that a lot of these guys were exaggerating their weight. However, why any reason to doubt Coleman? He was 257 in 99, and looked a lot bigger in 2003, 287lb. Dillet used to go up to 320 in the offseason too
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I think Levrone was one of those gusy didnt actually lose much strenght when dieting down.
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hey, we can only go with what they give us, correct? Dorian did say that a lot of these guys were exaggerating their weight. However, why any reason to doubt Coleman? He was 257 in 99, and looked a lot bigger in 2003, 287lb. Dillet used to go up to 320 in the offseason too
i'm just saying that i don't believe in anything outrageous until it's proven to me and we can go back and forth with coulda, shoulda, woulda about what Kevin and Ronnie lifted but the facts are that Ronnie has pushed more weight than Kevin has period.
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Dillet used to go up to 320 in the offseason too
To be fair, Paul is taller than all of them
(http://www.freakestphysique.blogger.com.br/paul_dillett_0020.jpg) (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=69359.0;attach=100140;image)
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That shot from 94 is probably the greatest, sickest, front shot of all times 8)
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I doubt he is more than 270 here,
in the flex magazine workout he was fucking huge (offseason), and I remember shawn ray saying to Zane that Levrone was 260.
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That shot from 94 is probably the greatest, sickest, front shot of all times 8)
Dillett is absolutely DESTROYING Dorian in that shot, one of the biggest ownings i've ever seen, it almost looks photoshopped.
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Dillett is absolutely DESTROYING Dorian in that shot, one of the biggest ownings i've ever seen, it almost looks photoshopped.
The problem for Dillet was Dorian destroyed him to an even greater extent from the rear ;)
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yep. 1996 offseason, one of the few times he bulked up. Come on man, he was 255 shredded to the bone in 96 olympia, 98 and 99. 285 bulked up is hardly unimaginable.
Only if Levrone posts it himself here, I would believe that. He has no reason to bullshit.
But FLEX is full of shit.
He was bigger in 1997 though. Doubt he reached 285 lbs, as he never got fat in the offseason.
Hopefully Levrone can give us his best lifts too.
I know that JOJ is clearly full of shit with that 8 reps of 405 lbs military press though.
That claim, along with the lateral raises, is the most ridiculous.
YIP
Zack
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Only if Levrone posts it himself here, I would believe that. He has no reason to bullshit.
But FLEX is full of shit.
He was bigger in 1997 though. Doubt he reached 285 lbs, as he never got fat in the offseason.
Hopefully Levrone can give us his best lifts too.
I know that JOJ is clearly full of shit with that 8 reps of 405 lbs military press though.
That claim, along with the lateral raises, is the most ridiculous.
YIP
Zack
I thought him and branch rep 405 for military? no? it does sound crazy but I thought it was true.
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I thought him and branch rep 405 for military? no? it does sound crazy but I thought it was true.
Sure, I could see them do it.
In a smith machine.
But no fcuking way are they doing regular military presses for 8 reps.
YIP
Zack
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I'm sure Johnnie's done every last one of those, if those are his actual claims.
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I'm sure Johnnie's done every last one of those, if those are his actual claims.
hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i thought you quit the meth.
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I'm sure Johnnie's done every last one of those, if those are his actual claims.
Mate,
Zydrunas Savickas holds an inoffical world record for repping with 705 lbs.
He did 10 reps.
Savickas is a beast, weighing 350+ lbs. Has pulled 880+ lbs in a real powerlifting meet, and almost 1000 lbs under unofficial deadlift rules.
I have serious doubts about the 5 reps JOJ claims he did with 700+ lbs in the deadlift.
YIP
Zack
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Mate,
Zydrunas Savickas holds an inoffical world record for repping with 705 lbs.
He did 10 reps.
Savickas is a beast, weighing 350+ lbs. Has pulled 880+ lbs in a real powerlifting meet, and almost 1000 lbs under unofficial deadlift rules.
I have serious doubts about the 5 reps JOJ claims he did with 700+ lbs in the deadlift.
YIP
Zack
Jeff thinks because he's trained around a few pros at Gold's Venice that he's one of them and he would stick up for a pro even if one claimed that they bench pressed 3,500lbs. and shoulder pressed 2,500.
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(http://www.athlete.ru/fotos/profi/sonbaty/008.jpg)
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Jeff used to live with Mike Morris, he's quite an authority on strength claims ::)
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monster 295lb. press behind neck.
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(http://www.athlete.ru/fotos/profi/sonbaty/008.jpg)
bullshit, nasser was/is weak, in his video he struggles with half that.
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Jeff used to live with Mike Morris, he's quite an authority on strength claims ::)
hahahaha, Mike Morris there's another one who had some whoppers like pressing 500 for 8 on the incline and repping out a pair of 200's on the incline. ::)
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johnie has admited he is weak at pressing.. he could hardly bench 405 for 5 reps... easily
so i really dont see him doin 405 FREEWEIGHT military presses.. matter of fact i haent seen anyone do that on any video
johnnie has some great claims and is strong.. but on video... he doesnt seem that strong to me... or as strong as people tout him... branch is stronger.. chris cormier is stronger.. levrone is stronger .. to name a few
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Jeff thinks because he's trained around a few pros at Gold's Venice that he's one of them and he would stick up for a pro even if one claimed that they bench pressed 3,500lbs. and shoulder pressed 2,500.
I wonder if they always told him: "Hey Farland, I'm training light this... err.. month..
Jeff: "Er...Didn't you train light last month too?"
Pro: "Well.. ah... eh..
YIP
Zack
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bullshit, nasser was/is weak, in his video he struggles with half that.
the pic is from the mid 90's though - I don't think Flex mag started using fake plates until recently . . . ???
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He presses this, so & so curls that, who really gives a fuck?! The only thing that matters is what they look like on stage.
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hahahaha, he couldn't roll 700, he struggled so hard on 495 for 5 on BFTO that i thought they were going to have to call an ambulance for him.
is this a joke?????
he did win the wpo nationals alittle while back in the 220s or 42s
he hit n ill just say i dont know the exact kilo but here goes
830 squat
580 bench
800 deads
these were done against the strongest pl ers in the world in that class
i seen the meet on espn 2
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Mate,
Zydrunas Savickas holds an inoffical world record for repping with 705 lbs.
He did 10 reps.
Savickas is a beast, weighing 350+ lbs. Has pulled 880+ lbs in a real powerlifting meet, and almost 1000 lbs under unofficial deadlift rules.
I have serious doubts about the 5 reps JOJ claims he did with 700+ lbs in the deadlift.
YIP
Zack
700 for 5 reps would give him an 800 dead this thread has to be a joke his powerlifting lifts r well documented in all powerlifting circles n many have seen him do it!!!!?????????
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Whatever he can lift he still has gyno!!!! damn estrogen!!
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Whatever he can lift he still has gyno!!!! damn estrogen!!
???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the f is that suppose to mean gyno?? so !!!GUY JUST WON A PRO SHOW I THINK!!????
again ill say it again to many haters!!!!!! this guy probably does all these lifts,,,,n ill bet he never claimed them either......last i heard he was gettin very close to a below parralle squat with 900 n approachin a 850 dead at just over 250lbs....he was shootin for the wpo nationals/worlds again.....this comes from many powerlifters i know,,,,
this sarcasuum guy dont have a clue n never will HATER-(THE ULTIMATE JEALOUS GUY)!!
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I would believe the numbers for the pressing movements if we were talking about Branch. In JOJ's Next Level video he struggles with 405lbs on the flat bench, I think he got like 2 reps without a spot. He wasn't in the off-season but still those claims aren't even close to what he actually does in the video. I doubt that he actually made those claims himself.
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look at his side chest or his front lat spread. So he show? look at his competition? any worthy? that whole shows a joke. I saw better talent at the USA's.
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I doubt he is more than 270 here,
in the flex magazine workout he was fucking huge (offseason), and I remember shawn ray saying to Zane that Levrone was 260.
from wich year are these pics from...he looks 280lbs plus i guess..looks thick to me
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700 for 5 reps would give him an 800 dead this thread has to be a joke his powerlifting lifts r well documented in all powerlifting circles n many have seen him do it!!!!?????????
I believe the 800 lbs deadlift, or rather, I know he's done it. He did it in a meet I believe. No doubts at all.
5 reps with 700? That's a different matter IMO.
YIP
Zack
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I think he could do all those numbers excpet the presses.700X5 is not that unreal,the guy has pulled 815.I also believe the floor press and bench numbers.
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Johnnie's 120 lbs db curls make my arm hurt just thinking about them
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Johnnie's 120 lbs db curls make my arm hurt just thinking about them
too bad he doesn't do them.
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Here it is, look at the 5:40 mark (the set before its with 85 lbs)
lateral raises for 9 reps with 100 lbs
http://forum.athletes.com/fitshow/war/war1.htm
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all bullshit lifts as follows
Bench Press 495 for 5
Floor Presses 405 for 5
Incline db presses 200 for 8
Barbell curls 245 for 8-10
Preacher curls 200 for 8-10
Hammer curls 150 for 8-10
Alternate curls 120 for 8-10
Seated military presses 405 for 8
DB lateral raises 100 for 8-10
Lying extensions 245 for 5
Dumbbell kickbacks 100 for 10
Deadlifts 700+ for 5
Barbell rows 495 for 10
all bullshit, discuss.
We've seen him do half of these lifts on video while training with Bob Chick at Gold's Venice. It's not like a photo shoot; they won't "roll in" fake dumbell / plates for that occasion...
Why do you bash so much and are so negative ? Wanna talk about being molested as a child just a couple of years ago?
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After watching Johnnie not being able to get three reps on his own with 405 lbs, I'm positive he cannot get 5 reps with 495 lbs.
http://ironvideos.com/view_trailer.php?id=178
Fcuking liar.
YIP
Zack
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After watching Johnnie not being able to get three reps on his own with 405 lbs, I'm positive he cannot get 5 reps with 495 lbs.
http://ironvideos.com/view_trailer.php?id=178
Fcuking liar.
YIP
Zack
absolutely right, he's lying about every lift he claims.
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Jackson has obviously gotten stronger since that video was filmed. I guarantee you that he could bench over 500.
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Jackson has obviously gotten stronger since that video was filmed. I guarantee you that he could bench over 500.
Well, maybe.
But 5 reps for 495 lbs?
C'mon man.
He couldn't even get THREE reps with 405 lbs in this vid. And I think he at the time of this vid, was doing 495 lbs or close to it with a benchpress shirt in meets, which seems about right.
No fcuking way is he doing 5 reps with 495 lbs.
YIP
Zack