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Kazmaier used to barbell curl 405.
hahahahahahahaaa, oh brother.
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Was that on the preacher bench? ;D
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Was that on the preacher bench? ;D
hahahaha, for reps.
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With the arm-blaster.
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he could power clean it easy.
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he could power clean it easy.
of course he could. ::)
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hahahahahahahaaa, oh brother.
hahaha..
Yeah, if his tendons where steel cables and his biceps were hydraulics :-\
Hope he was joking.. ;D
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Reverse grip cleans would be a better name for them.
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I'm not joking. They were cheat curls but he did it.
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Reverse grip cleans would be a better name for them.
he couldn't even do that with it.
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I'm not joking. They were cheat curls but he did it.
you are a jackass who was repeatedly dropped on your head as a kid.
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hahahahahahahaaa, oh brother.
maybe it was 40.5lbs?
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Type Kazmaier curling 405 into google. Magnus Samuelson also did it.
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I'm not joking. They were cheat curls but he did it.
Dude, no way..Id have to see it to believe it...
Its just physiologically impossible for the body to curl that weight..haha..it would break your back, you would get so fuked up...
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don't get me wrong, Kaz was one of the strongest men who ever lived but 405 on curls is just stupid and even he wouldn't claim that.
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UK Gold's suggestion to use a large object to ass fcuk himself is pretty much the standard for self-ownings...
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don't get me wrong, Kaz was one of the strongest men who ever lived but 405 on curls is just stupid and even he wouldn't claim that.
Did you type it into Google yet?
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I thought the stupidest post ever is...well, anything and everything Miss Karen posts...or when hipolito mejia said he looked exactly like " a Spanish Richard Gere. "
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Did you type it into Google yet?
i don't need to jackass, just because it's on google doesn't mean that it happened, if you believe that then you've never been in a gym.
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I thought the stupidest post ever is...well, anything and everything Miss Karen posts...or when hipolito mejia said he looked exactly like " a Spanish Richard Gere. "
Did he really say that?
OMG! Gayer than Earl sniffing Kevin Levrone's underwear, while talking about how much he loves the sport.........
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i don't need to jackass, just because it's on google doesn't mean that it happened, if you believe that then you've never been in a gym.
Please just do it. I cant believe someone like you who seems to have a ton of knowedge when it comes to strongman history can't beleive Kazmaier couldn't cheat curl 405.
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I had heard that Kaz could curl this also. I have no idea if it is true, however, would love to see something like that.
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I swear gordiano...HE DID! I've been giving him hell ever since...he made these claims last week...
He's on right now in a thread...I keep laughing at him and he's all like..."I can't help it...I just look like him...you're jealous..."
Dude...its BRUTALLY GAY! It's so gay...it's gayer than Liberace trying on Dorothy's Ruby Slippers and going..."OOOOH, they're a perfect fit!!!"
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With the arm-blaster.
...with his back against the wall and his feet 24" out in front. no wraps. no chalk.
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I did some searching and some people are claiming 396, others 440 while still another claims 405x2 was caught on film. I don't think anyone will ever know except Kaz. I am sure when he comes to read GetBig he will set the record straight ::)
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I did some searching and some people are claiming 396, others 440 while still another claims 405x2 was caught on film. I don't think anyone will ever know except Kaz. I am sure when he comes to read GetBig he will set the record straight ::)
I don't know why this is so hard to beleive. He used to do seminars where he would do all kinds of crazy shit like this. I've heard of some insane shoulder presses that he would do also.
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Whats the most anyone's barbell curled with decent form?
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Most ridiculous and useless posts on Getbig belong to sarcasm.
Useless, pathetic moron. Quite obvious you are just like Alexxx and TA, just a wannabe jelous prick.
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Whats the most anyone's barbell curled with decent form?
245 or so.
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Most ridiculous and useless posts on Getbig belong to sarcasm.
Useless, pathetic moron. Quite obvious you are just like Alexxx and TA, just a wannabe jelous prick.
i love you too sweetie. :-*
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Olympic weightlifters can easily clean 500 pounds plus, I do believe kaz could do 400. Wasn't he a very good deadlifter?
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245 or so.
I read that Ken Brown holds the world record on strict curl (head and butt against the wall), did 235 in 1991. Someone may have beat that since then, not sure. Apparently Kaz did supposedly cheat curl 396 at a seminar...
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Olympic weightlifters can easily clean 500 pounds plus, I do believe kaz could do 400. Wasn't he a very good deadlifter?
he could probably clean it from the floor but barbell curl it, not as long as the sky is blue.
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Whats the most anyone's barbell curled with decent form?
The APA has a strict curl contest and I think the most was low 200's.
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he could probably clean it from the floor but barbell curl it, not as long as the sky is blue.
yeah I meant from the floor,
Didn't kovacs claim a 315 cheat curl?
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yeah I meant from the floor,
Didn't kovacs claim a 315 cheat curl?
yeah along with his famous 500lb. presses behind neck for 5, smith machine inclines with 675 for 8, 200lb. db shoulder presses for 8 and 765lb. squats for 10 reps. ::)
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Well both Kaz and Kovacs looks like shit imo.
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yeah along with his famous 500lb. presses behind neck for 5, smith machine inclines with 675 for 8, 200lb. db shoulder presses for 8 and 765lb. squats for 10 reps. ::)
How did this go from Bill Kazmaier to Greg Kovacs?
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i love you too sweetie. :-*
the feeling is mutual honey
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I don't know why this is so hard to beleive. He used to do seminars where he would do all kinds of crazy shit like this. I've heard of some insane shoulder presses that he would do also.
I actually think he could have done it. It isn't that I don't believe it, it is the energy some people on here put into arguing one way or another. Kaz likely doesn't give a shit whether sarcasm believes him or not and I am not sure why you do.
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maybe it was 40.5lbs?
pathetic
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or when hipolito mejia said he looked exactly like " a Spanish Richard Gere. "
Does this mean that he dunks the gerbil in Pico DeGallo sauce before he shoves it up his ass?
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Well both Kaz and Kovacs looks like shit imo.
Kaz had great build IMO. He looked like a man.
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(http://www.irishstrongman.com/images/photos/billkazmaier.jpg)
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Sarcasm, why did you change the title of this thread? I was honored that you thought I made the most ridiculous post in Getbigs history.
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(http://www.irishstrongman.com/images/photos/billkazmaier.jpg)
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I did some searching and some people are claiming 396, others 440 while still another claims 405x2 was caught on film. I don't think anyone will ever know except Kaz. I am sure when he comes to read GetBig he will set the record straight ::)
Magnus Samuelson did reps with 315 on film.
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Type Kazmaier curling 405 into google. Magnus Samuelson also did it.
Monster "I believe everything I read on the internet and strongmen don't lie" delusions.
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(http://www.irishstrongman.com/images/photos/billkazmaier.jpg)
Why would you pic that pic of all those I imagine are available online? You can do better than that.
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Why would you pic that pic of all those I imagine are available online? You can do better than that.
most of the he has a shirt on. Find me a picture where he looks his best without a shirt then.
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most of the he has a shirt on. Find me a picture where he looks his best without a shirt then.
Anyone got the one with the kilt on? I'll see if I can find it.
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Anyone got the one with the kilt on? I'll see if I can find it.
Looks good here: Other times he's been fatter.
(http://home.vicnet.net.au/~capo/icons/art_bb_4.jpg)
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most of the he has a shirt on. Find me a picture where he looks his best without a shirt then.
The only good ones I could find were in thumbnail form on www.altavista.com, however, they were from Mc-Shane enterprises or something like that and no longer available. Needless to say, I would have expected more class from someone that has been on these boards as long as you have been regardless of your penchant for showing off your penis or lying about prohormone use. At the very least you could respect some things I think.
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Here is another...
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/coconutsandapples/bill1.jpg)
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Monster "I believe everything I read on the internet and strongmen don't lie" delusions.
I certainly dont beleive everything I read on the internet, but how else am I supposed to prove that this is a believable lift?
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Sarcasm, why did you change the title of this thread? I was honored that you thought I made the most ridiculous post in Getbigs history.
i didn't.
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This is easy. Just ask onlyme. Keith was personal friends with kaz. Keith could he do it?
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This is easy. Just ask onlyme. Keith was personal friends with kaz. Keith could he do it?
Keith would tell you that he saw Kaz curl the 100's for reps which i believe but there is no fcukin way that he curled a 405lb. barbell in any way, shape or form.
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i didn't.
Did Bob Chicherillo change it?
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Did Bob Chicherillo change it?
someone did.
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Kaz was a real strong mother,have seen him in strongman contest throw beer kegs like toys up onto a flat top truck.Fucka was the Real Deal.
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onlyme should be able to clear this up
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Kaz was a real strong mother,have seen him in strongman contest throw beer kegs like toys up onto a flat top truck.Fucka was the Real Deal.
no one is saying that he wasn't brutally strong but do you honestly believe he barbell curled 405? like i said before if you believe he did you've obviously never set foot in a gym.
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no one is saying that he wasn't brutally strong but do you honestly believe he barbell curled 405? like i said before if you believe he did you've obviously never set foot in a gym.
May I ask why it is that you believe you are the end all to all discussions regarding weightlifting? Have you competed seriously in bodybuilding or a strength sport? Do you have an advanced degree in exercise physiology or kinesiology? I am not trying to flame here, but, you come at people here really agressively and often with nothing more than your word as your argument. What makes you an expert here? If it is just part of your charm on here, then fine, but, seriously, what have you done that makes you so ready to come at people like you do?
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May I ask why it is that you believe you are the end all to all discussions regarding weightlifting? Have you competed seriously in bodybuilding or a strength sport? Do you have an advanced degree in exercise physiology or kinesiology? I am not trying to flame here, but, you come at people here really agressively and often with nothing more than your word as your argument. What makes you an expert here? If it is just part of your charm on here, then fine, but, seriously, what have you done that makes you so ready to come at people like you do?
you don't have to have a degree in exercise physiology you f.ucking assclown to know what is possible or not possible, put it this way how many guys do you see in a years time LEGITIMATELY even bench press 405? and now you're going to tell me that a man curled it? gimme a break.
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CURLING 405? well obviously someone isnt familiar with how fcking heavy that is. :-\
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CURLING 405? well obviously someone isnt familiar with how fcking heavy that is. :-\
hahahaha, try telling "dorkeroo" that, he seems to think that it's commonplace. ::)
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Keith would tell you that he saw Kaz curl the 100's for reps which i believe but there is no fcukin way that he curled a 405lb. barbell in any way, shape or form.
I don't disagree with you. I wanted Kieth to verify your suspicions. 405 is a ton of fucking weight! I could buy 325 - 350. But 405? nah. Not even the great kaz could rep with that.
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I don't disagree with you. I wanted Kieth to verify your suspicions. 405 is a ton of fucking weight! I could buy 325 - 350. But 405? nah. Not even the great kaz could rep with that.
i wouldn't even buy 315, no way.
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i wouldn't even buy 315, no way.
He could get 315. Think about it. What did he weigh like 280? so his bodyweight and 35 lbs. Not to far fetched for someone with one in a billion strength.
I only say this because when I was a teen at 185 I curled 185lbs for one when I was younger and obsessed with numbers.
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I certainly dont beleive everything I read on the internet, but how else am I supposed to prove that this is a believable lift?
I simply don't believe in incredible lifts anymore unless witnessed by many credible witnesses. Their are as many lies in the Iron Game as their are fat cells in Sarcasm's body!
Look at many pro bodybuilders for an example. They lie about how strong they are, they lie about their measurements, they lie about their bodyfat, and of course their drug abuse, etc. Imagine having 19 inch arms, but still so insecure you tell people you have 21 inch arms, pathetic.
Yeah, yeah, i'm sure some Pros are honest, but you get my point!.
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you don't have to have a degree in exercise physiology you f.ucking assclown to know what is possible or not possible, put it this way how many guys do you see in a years time LEGITIMATELY even bench press 405? and now you're going to tell me that a man curled it? gimme a break.
LOL well done man. Just cause you can't do it doens't mean someone else can't ;) Now go cry yourself to sleep with your 385lb "bench" :-* Kaz isn't common place and you are a moron ;)
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Kaz weighed way more than 280...in his prime he was around 340lbs at 6-3.
id say 315 is certainly believeable for him for a few cheat curls. lee priest says hes done that for a few reps one time. Kaz was maybe the all round strongest man ever, weighed 340 lbs, longtime lifter/juicer, id say he was definitely capable of doing 315.
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Kaz was da man for awhile, at least.
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Kaz weighed way more than 280...in his prime he was around 340lbs at 6-3.
id say 315 is certainly believeable for him for a few cheat curls. lee priest says hes done that for a few reps one time. Kaz was maybe the all round strongest man ever, weighed 340 lbs, longtime lifter/juicer, id say he was definitely capable of doing 315.
Shit now I def believe 315. Sarcasm you said you weigh 225. i bet you could curl 185 for a single. Imagine if you had the strength Kaz possessed.
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I believe Kaz could do it. We're talking about a guy who bench pressed 315 for 50 reps and could deadlift near 900 lb. A 405 cheat curl isn't at all unbelievable for him.
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I believe Kaz could do it. We're talking about a guy who bench pressed 315 for 50 reps and could deadlift near 900 lb. A 405 cheat curl isn't at all unbelievable for him.
I dont know about 405. But 315 for sure!
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I believe Kaz could do it. We're talking about a guy who bench pressed 315 for 50 reps and could deadlift near 900 lb. A 405 cheat curl isn't at all unbelievable for him.
Thank you.
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In this video, Magnus curls 315 x 4. (A bit of cheating but extremely impressive nevertheless)
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Vince Goodrum claimed to bench 395 lbs. for 2 reps. Anyone believe him?
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Vince couldn't unrack 395.
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WHAT A BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2118.0;attach=83290;image)
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My damm internet was down for 2 days. Went into withdrawls. ANyway. I have never seen Kaz curl with 405. I can guarantee you he could have done 315. Cause I did and I know he was stronger than me. I did 3 or 4 very strict reps with Ray Mentzer helping me on the last 2 or 3 and I would also have to bend back a bit but not a whole lot. The way Kaz warmed up with 100's I know he could do the 315. I also did them on the EZ curl bar. I didn't like the straight bar cause it hurt my wrists. I also remember telling everyone on here Kaz benched 405 for 50. After several people PMed me to confirm I called him. I was off. He actually did 315 for 50 and 405 for 27 or 29.
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Kazmaier could curl 405, he did a lot of heavy lifts at the FIBO in Essen in 1995/1996.
In the World Strongest Man contest in 1988 and 1989 he did a log lift of 170 kilo (374). He still is a strong and big man.
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My damm internet was down for 2 days. Went into withdrawls. ANyway. I have never seen Kaz curl with 405. I can guarantee you he could have done 315. Cause I did and I know he was stronger than me. I did 3 or 4 very strict reps with Ray Mentzer helping me on the last 2 or 3 and I would also have to bend back a bit but not a whole lot. The way Kaz warmed up with 100's I know he could do the 315. I also did them on the EZ curl bar. I didn't like the straight bar cause it hurt my wrists. I also remember telling everyone on here Kaz benched 405 for 50. After several people PMed me to confirm I called him. I was off. He actually did 315 for 50 and 405 for 27 or 29.
That dude was unhuman . . . I recall a old WSM contest where they were loading beer kegs and Kaz was throwing them 10 or more feet to make time. I assume the were empty ( still well ore !40lbs ) full they would weigh ???
The Beef
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He actually did 315 for 50 and 405 for 27 or 29.
that is incomprehensible strength. just mind boggling....
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That dude was unhuman . . . I recall a old WSM contest where they were loading beer kegs and Kaz was throwing them 10 or more feet to make time. I assume the were empty ( still well ore !40lbs ) full they would weigh ???
The Beef
That is my favorite part ever in the history of WSM. And the kegs were NOT empty. He threw them like they weighed 40 lbs. I remember driving around Honolulu one day. He was sitting next to me and I ust remember him raising his arm to show me something and the size of his brach-radialus(?) was just huge. That is a major reason why I always loved hammer curls. It really made that muscle and your arms look huge.
Here is me a Kaz at the ASC in 2002 or 2003
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i think so kaz could not do it..but kevin levrone and gunter together did a 405lbs curl.there was pic of them where they curled 405lbs.the bar was pretty big,it looked like a squat bar to me and and a total of 405lbs were on the bar.the bar was so big that they both curled on the same bar side by side and they did a couple of reps together. and this was real
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I could see Kaz doing that...
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My damm internet was down for 2 days. Went into withdrawls. ANyway. I have never seen Kaz curl with 405. I can guarantee you he could have done 315. Cause I did and I know he was stronger than me. I did 3 or 4 very strict reps with Ray Mentzer helping me on the last 2 or 3 and I would also have to bend back a bit but not a whole lot. The way Kaz warmed up with 100's I know he could do the 315. I also did them on the EZ curl bar. I didn't like the straight bar cause it hurt my wrists. I also remember telling everyone on here Kaz benched 405 for 50. After several people PMed me to confirm I called him. I was off. He actually did 315 for 50 and 405 for 27 or 29.
Ask about the 405 curls.
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I'm sure he did it, but he definately used his bodyweight to hoist it up using momentum. It's not like his biceps did most of the work.
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I'm sure he did it, but he definately used his bodyweight to hoist it up using momentum. It's not like his biceps did most of the work.
The argument wasnt about the form.
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I believe what Onlyme is saying.
But,I am curious that the arms of Kaz are not so big in spite of his strength.
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I believe what Onlyme is saying.
But,I am curious that the arms of Kaz are not so big in spite of his strength.
that is a recent photo. Back in the day he was enormous.
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Kaz in his kilt.
And he did like goldfish.
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that is a recent photo. Back in the day he was enormous.
Yes. I know,But not like present mass monsters.
But, his strength is more than those mass monsters of now.
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Kazmaier is becoming a Myth in WSM and strength claims. With all do respect he couldn’t beat Marius in any WSM event.
He couldn’t even beat Magnus ver Magnuson, it is like comparing Arnold with Yates or Coleman. He has the privilege of being the strongest and the best in the past era but nothing compare top today’s champions
Paul L.
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Kaz is one of only 3 people to ever lift the manhood stone overhead,it weighs 268,its a smooth sided stone that has to "curled" into position.
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Kazmaier is becoming a Myth in WSM and strength claims. With all do respect he couldn’t beat Marius in any WSM event.
He couldn’t even beat Magnus ver Magnuson, it is like comparing Arnold with Yates or Coleman. He has the privilege of being the strongest and the best in the past era but nothing compare top today’s champions
Paul L.
Yes.I agree. Magnus is way more stronger.
But,I am refering about the size and strength relation.
I ask you a question:
OK Magnus is way stronger than Kaz in W strongest man, but how about barbell curl solely? Who is stronger?
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I think Bill could hold his own against any of the competitors today. He had the size and strength and endurance. And this was way back when the drugs were nothing like they are today. Kaz is 6'3" and weighed about 330 back in his hey-day in the WSM. That pic of us together I think he said he was weighing 320 or so. And his arms are a solid 22" at his peak. He is enormous in person. very thick. Now I haven;t seen him since 2002 or 2003 so not sure what he looks like now. Like any powerlifter, WSm competitor or BB, drugs are relied on for allot of their progress. Kaz back then sure took drugs but hard work got him where he was. He didn't rely on how much roids he tooks.
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When Kaz cameback to strongman events and got beat by a couple of the new guys like Jon Pall,it was only because of injuries and muscle tear he had just recovered from.None of them could have beat him in his prime.A friend of mine saw Kaz in the 90s when he came to the UK on a seminar tour and he said he stood in front of the dumbell rack and threw up a pair of 150s,pressed them for 10 reps and put them back down.
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Wow i havent seen a thread this fuckin retarded in a long time. Sure i believe he could curl 405. while were at it i can do 100 cocpushups with a fat trailer wife on my back whislting yankee dootle dandy..
405. gimme a break ::)
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Mention 405 long enough and some suckers buy it.
Magnus is doing 315 in that clip; that's about where Kaz would be.
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Kaz could do 315 fairly strict fir a few i rekcon like Samuelson (that clip is sick!), but 405 i just think is a just to heavy imo.
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Just to clear this up, it was 180kg (396.8lbs) and it was done in seminar in the late 80's in Brian Batcheldor's gym in Poole, England. He did something like 160kgX4 and 140kgX8 as a warm-up as well. I'll post more details when I find the British magazine it was reported in.
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I once heard that Bill Kaz curled 405lbs with perfect form. He was actually measured at 0.0% cheating. The lowest ever measured at Gold's apparentely. Dont take my word for it, ask Jim Quinn.
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You have to remember that a lot of the guys in the old days used to do Olympic lifting as well as bodybuilding. So cleans are not that hard and some guys got to be good at quick movements. We have had curl records in my gym and the best anyone did was 185 by myself in the mid 70s. That was a strict curl. I had no trouble swinging up 225 pounds and I weighed about 220 then. Doug Hepburn set records in the odd lifts back in the 1950s. He was from Vancouver, BC. His best curl is 260 pounds and I think that was a strict curl. The man was brutally strong.
http://www.americanpowerliftevolution.net/Hepburnpage4.html
Keith Jones mentions that he has curled 315 pounds and if he weighed about that much it can be done with a bit of a swing. I doubt anyone can do it with their back against a wall.
If Kaz 'curled' a 405 pound barbell then it would have to be an olympic bar because you would destroy your wrists otherwise. He would need to give a lot of momentum with his thighs and back and virtually clean the bar. I think it is something one or two heavy and very strong guys could do. Especially if they trained for a while to do this feat. Either he did it or he didn't and it has nothing to do with belief.
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I believe he used an EZ curl bar, with a very narrow grip.
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Kazmaier is becoming a Myth in WSM and strength claims. With all do respect he couldn’t beat Marius in any WSM event.
He couldn’t even beat Magnus ver Magnuson, it is like comparing Arnold with Yates or Coleman. He has the privilege of being the strongest and the best in the past era but nothing compare top today’s champions
Paul L.
I am no expert, but just the thought of Onlyme saying the kegs were full blows my fucken mind. You would need to see the footage to believe it. Kaz was throwing them 10 to 15 feet with not even a second and a half between grabbing them. It's inhuman. I say he hold his own against any man to have ever wanled the face of the earth.
I have total respect for Keith's opinions regarding strength, he was there. I'd love to hear Joe Roark's opinion on this. Kaz vs. todays line up.
And yes, Marius is fantastic, I am not saying he is not.
The Beef.
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Was that on the preacher bench? ;D
Wrist curl ;D
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245 or so.
You liein sack of shit. I bet $50 you couldnt cheat curl 245 to save your life
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You liein sack of shit. I bet $50 you couldnt cheat curl 245 to save your life
i didn't say I could do it, someone asked what the world record on the strict curl was and that was my annswer.
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Some pics of kaz a bit leaner...the man was a BEAST!
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3066/wsm1.jpg)
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3066/wsm.jpg)
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Most ridiculous and useless posts on Getbig belong to sarcasm.
Useless, pathetic moron. Quite obvious you are just like Alexxx and TA, just a wannabe jelous prick.
Amen to that. Just some fat weak tool who lies about his lifts and doesn't even have the gall to post under his real name. A true douche bag.
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Some pics of kaz a bit leaner...the man was a BEAST!
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3066/wsm1.jpg)
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3066/wsm.jpg)
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Jon Pall was also pretty damn strong
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Some pics of kaz a bit leaner...the man was a BEAST!
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3066/wsm1.jpg)
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3066/wsm.jpg)
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hahaha, monster legs.
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hahaha, monster legs.
Strong as fuck...that's all that matters to Kaz.
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Some Kaz quick clips......
the man has amazing trap development
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Traps developed like that from doing a 887lb deadlift and supporting a 925lb squat.
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His shoulders look like cannon balls!
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hahaha, monster legs.
You are such a little turd. ::)
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Kaz was working out at my gym 2 years ago. He was doing 100lb dumbell curls.
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You are such a little turd. ::)
Hey brian, my Dad is stronger than Kaz.
........oh brother ::) .
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You liein sack of shit. I bet $50 you couldnt cheat curl 245 to save your life
Sarcasm didn't say or suggest he curled that kinda weight you dumbass jitbag.
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Kaz has superman human abilites....even superhuman eyesight: 20/13 in one eye and 20/11 in the other.
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Sarcasm didn't say or suggest he curled that kinda weight you dumbass jitbag.
Keep your mouth shut MOF or I'll assult your moms sloppy cooter again