ehhhhh.... I think if you're training heavier you're also training harder.
You really are the king at putting words in somebody else's mouth.
Bodybuilding is Ronnie's hobby. Bodybuilding is Cutler's job.
both train hard and heavy - the main difference is that Ronnie truly loves what he does. Coleman loves working out and being in the gym. Jay cares more about making money - the training is more a means to an end.damn freaking hell whoooooooooooossssssshhh hhhhhhh at the statement "Bodybuilding is Ronnie's hobby. Bodybuilding is Cutler's job." sweet poppa j!!!
Bodybuilding is Ronnie's hobby. Bodybuilding is Cutler's job.
...This quote pretty much says it all. Close thread.~ 8)
You are getting Jay's commitment and desire confused. He has been fortunate coincidentally and taken advantage of such opportunities since he is MUCH more marketable than Ronnie. Jay has quit playing the mass game and focused on himself and the prize. He will win in 2006 and Ronnie Lard will fall! No one is unbeatable!
Lard? Your banter amuses me.
Nice way of showing him using him arm to hide his LARD abdomen region. I bet you are hoping he wears purple again this year huh?
monster attempt at changing the subject after being proven wrong
Is that the lost ark between his 4 pack?! :o :o
the genetic shape of Ronnie's abs does nothing to ruin his superior taper. Your boyfriend Jay can have all the definiton he wants - won't change his horrible waist. Seems it gets wider every year :-\
(http://www.atlargenutrition.com/images/news/olympia2005large.jpg)
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Ronnie's isn't any smaller.
your denial amuses me
monster innability to accept the truth
:-*
monster attempt at changing the subject after being proven wrong
I say heavier. Jay looks like he really goes all out when he trains. It just so happens that he deadlifts with 405 with the same subjective intensity that Ronnie does with 675.
Who cares.
They both could lift boxes at Walmart and gain muscle with as much drugs as they are on.
So if you are training as heavy as your body allows you a man who is stronger is training harder since he is lifting more?
it baffles me how jay is number two in the world
he has a wide roid waist , a back with no detail, his arms suck as well.
his jaw and cranium are enormous as well, he isnt marketable no one gives a f**k about jay
the simple fact that ronnie trains heavier than jay is enough to say that ronnie trains with more intensity..NO..if one's guy's stronger, lifting more does not necessarily assure more intensity..this is hard to figure out? ???
i've watched their DVD's...ronnie seems to have the upper hand on intensity. watch Ronnie's Unbelievable back workout and tell me he's not the most intense hard worker. 585 pound front squats free standing...hell yeah!Ronnie's back workout in "the Unbelivable" is insane compared to the one in "the cost of Redemption."
i've never been impressed too much with jay's intensity...just my opinion.
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I say heavier. Jay looks like he really goes all out when he trains. It just so happens that he deadlifts with 405 with the same subjective intensity that Ronnie does with 675.
Ronnie trains way harder
i watched cutlers video, i wasnt impressed at all for all the drugs he's on he isnt very strong
the two hardest training pros ive seen on dvd were ronnie and dorian
ronnie uses more weight but sloppier form , dorian was strict on everything
even with his shitty form the weight ronnie uses is way harder than what cutler is doing
jay doesnt even train to failure
it baffles me how jay is number two in the world
he has a wide roid waist , a back with no detail, his arms suck as well.
his jaw and cranium are enormous as well, he isnt marketable no one gives a f**k about jay
besides you closet fags on here.
at least ronnie is deisrable in the freeky sort of way.
but jay will never ever beat ronnie in the size game or come close.
Jay looks soft. Neither remotely as hard as Dorian was in 93.
He has lost all definition in his abs.
don't count out Ronnie's 2005 condition:
(http://body.builder.hu/imagebank/pictures/1129451726.jpg)
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think jay is the most overated bb , in the past 20 years
no no no. I can think of someone even more overrated... 8)
I say heavier. Jay looks like he really goes all out when he trains. It just so happens that he deadlifts with 405 with the same subjective intensity that Ronnie does with 675.
Jay lifts very strategic and smart, while Ronnie is just plain "old school"' heavy ass weight. Heavy weight will either get you huge, hurt, or both. As for longevity, look to see jay cutler in tip top shape for years to come.
dude i was not expecting this type of answesr from you..its just logic.when you are lifting heavy weight you have to lift in with more difficulties such as you have to put extra hard effort in lifting that weight than your normal level of strength..if ronnie is doing 800lbs squats and jay does 500lbs squats on a smith machine...so who do you think is the more intense guy.coleman puts his ass on the line by lifting heavy ass weights..the heavier the weight becomes the more you want to lift that weight with 100% of your energy..its crystal clear that ronnie is the more hard working one and mind you colemans form is decent in almost of all of his liftsYa but he makes up for it on personality. ::) ;D ::)
NO..if one's guy's stronger, lifting more does not necessarily assure more intensity..this is hard to figure out? ???
Who cares.
They both could lift boxes at Walmart and gain muscle with as much drugs as they are on.