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Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« on: September 06, 2006, 07:14:39 PM »
I say heavier.  Jay looks like he really goes all out when he trains.  It just so happens that he deadlifts with 405 with the same subjective intensity that Ronnie does with 675.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2006, 07:17:29 PM »
Ronnie is definitely more intense. In his new video Jay stopped deadlifting off the floor because it put too much strain on the waist ???
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 07:18:17 PM »
I know guys that train as heavy and as hard as Jay and look nothing like him...if jay trained like ronnie...he wouldnt look like him either

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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2006, 07:21:06 PM »
Jay's form is excellent on just about any movement. I actually believe him when he says that he trains to feel the muscle working. Ronnie seems more concentrated on just moving the weight from point A to B. Obvioulsy both ways work.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2006, 07:23:47 PM »
both train hard and heavy - the main difference is that Ronnie truly loves what he does. Coleman loves working out and being in the gym. Jay cares more about making money - the training is more a means to an end.

Bodybuilding is Ronnie's hobby. Bodybuilding is Cutler's job.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 07:25:37 PM »
meh... Switch cutlers genetics with Ronnie's they would both look the same just reversed.  This crap about cutler not training as hard as Coleman is funny. He is not as gifted genetically.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 07:30:07 PM »
what is this thread about?

Does Guy think that the way ronnie trains is the difference between him and Jay winning the Olympia?

That would be the easiest thing for Jay to change and 'hello' prolly woulda tried it

remember shooter mcgavin in happy gilmour adopting that 'crazy' swing style
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 07:32:44 PM »
ehhhhh.... I think if you're training heavier you're also training harder.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 07:36:04 PM »
Quote from: Slick Vic on September 06, 2006, 07:32:44 PM
ehhhhh.... I think if you're training heavier you're also training harder.

So if you are training as heavy as your body allows you a man who is stronger is training harder since he is lifting more?
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2006, 07:38:44 PM »
Quote from: Matt C on September 06, 2006, 07:34:21 PM
You really are the king at putting words in somebody else's mouth.

its slow this morning

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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2006, 07:40:32 PM »
Quote from: Big Poppa J on September 06, 2006, 07:23:47 PM
Bodybuilding is Ronnie's hobby. Bodybuilding is Cutler's job.


...This quote pretty much says it all. Close thread.~ 8)
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2006, 07:44:55 PM »
Quote from: Big Poppa J on September 06, 2006, 07:23:47 PM
both train hard and heavy - the main difference is that Ronnie truly loves what he does. Coleman loves working out and being in the gym. Jay cares more about making money - the training is more a means to an end.

Bodybuilding is Ronnie's hobby. Bodybuilding is Cutler's job.
damn freaking hell whoooooooooooossssssshhh hhhhhhh at the statement "Bodybuilding is Ronnie's hobby. Bodybuilding is Cutler's job."  sweet poppa j!!!
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2006, 07:55:59 PM »
You are getting Jay's commitment and desire confused. He has been fortunate coincidentally and taken advantage of such opportunities since he is MUCH more marketable than Ronnie. Jay has quit playing the mass game and focused on himself and the prize. He will win in 2006 and Ronnie Lard will fall! No one is unbeatable!
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2006, 07:59:01 PM »
Quote from: Sean-DeMarco on September 06, 2006, 07:40:32 PM

...This quote pretty much says it all. Close thread.~ 8)

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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2006, 08:05:57 PM »
Quote from: thisiskeith12 on September 06, 2006, 07:55:59 PM
You are getting Jay's commitment and desire confused. He has been fortunate coincidentally and taken advantage of such opportunities since he is MUCH more marketable than Ronnie. Jay has quit playing the mass game and focused on himself and the prize. He will win in 2006 and Ronnie Lard will fall! No one is unbeatable!

Lard? Your banter amuses me.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2006, 08:07:43 PM »
Quote from: Big Poppa J on September 06, 2006, 08:05:57 PM
Lard? Your banter amuses me.

Nice way of showing him using him arm to hide his LARD abdomen region. I bet you are hoping he wears purple again this year huh?
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2006, 08:26:06 PM »
Quote from: thisiskeith12 on September 06, 2006, 08:07:43 PM
Nice way of showing him using him arm to hide his LARD abdomen region. I bet you are hoping he wears purple again this year huh?

monster attempt at changing the subject after being proven wrong
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2006, 08:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Big Poppa J on September 06, 2006, 08:26:06 PM
monster attempt at changing the subject after being proven wrong

Is that the lost ark between his 4 pack?! :o :o
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2006, 08:37:18 PM »
Quote from: thisiskeith12 on September 06, 2006, 08:32:17 PM
Is that the lost ark between his 4 pack?! :o :o

the genetic shape of Ronnie's abs does nothing to ruin his superior taper. Your boyfriend Jay can have all the definiton he wants - won't change his horrible waist. Seems it gets wider every year  :-\









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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2006, 08:44:19 PM »
Ronnie's isn't any smaller.

Quote from: Big Poppa J on September 06, 2006, 08:37:18 PM
the genetic shape of Ronnie's abs does nothing to ruin his superior taper. Your boyfriend Jay can have all the definiton he wants - won't change his horrible waist. Seems it gets wider every year  :-\










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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2006, 08:50:09 PM »
Quote from: thisiskeith12 on September 06, 2006, 08:44:19 PM
Ronnie's isn't any smaller.


your denial amuses me

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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2006, 08:59:59 PM »
Quote from: Big Poppa J on September 06, 2006, 08:50:09 PM
your denial amuses me

monster innability to accept the truth

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you = molestation of the word monster
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2006, 09:03:34 PM »
Jay looks soft. Neither remotely as hard as Dorian was in 93.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2006, 09:05:55 PM »
Who cares.

They both could lift boxes at Walmart and gain muscle with as much drugs as they are on.
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Re: Does Ronnie train harder than Jay or just heavier?
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2006, 09:14:34 PM »
Both train hard but Ronnie has the edge.
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