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Title: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 09:46:48 AM
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Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: FreshMintBlue on September 08, 2006, 09:48:27 AM
edit .... well done but shave the chest
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Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 09:49:01 AM
You wasted your time DC training.

Everyone will tell you based on your pictures you posted.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2006, 09:51:25 AM
pretty good there young chap, now go win the olympia champion chip. alexxx you are as ripped as it gets if you cut water for 3-4 days you would look competition ripped along with a carb up. so if i were you i would train more and eat more
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Atlantic on September 08, 2006, 09:53:06 AM
Great improvement
You look fabulous


Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2006, 09:53:52 AM
dc training is simply not enough volume alex....


ill give you an old pushup routine

reminder: when you do pushups your pushing up 60--70 percent of your weight. your still moving over a 100 pounds each rep for 5 minutes straight. which equates to a very high workload. try 5-5 minute pushups youll see what im talkin about
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 09:54:17 AM
Also,
Stop lying about your weight.

You need to be honest with yourself like I have been telling you.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Maldoror on September 08, 2006, 09:57:29 AM
Unless you're 6'11", there's just no way you're 200 pounds in that first pic, or 220 in the other. Son, you look like you're barely 120 in that pic from 2003.
Why lie?  ???
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 09:59:52 AM
dc training is simply not enough volume alex....


ill give you an old pushup routine

reminder: when you do pushups your pushing up 60--70 percent of your weight. your still moving over a 100 pounds each rep for 5 minutes straight. which equates to a very high workload. try 5-5 minute pushups youll see what im talkin about

I am thinking which method is going to produce the best results for me.

Here is another shot. I still have to lose 3 inches of my waist if I plan to compete.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 10:01:38 AM
Also,
Stop lying about your weight.

You need to be honest with yourself like I have been telling you.

Adonis I never lyied about my weight. I am 6'3" 1/2! I just check my weight before yesterday and with the clothes on after a workout it was 219 pds.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:03:45 AM
Honestly?  You look like you started lifting weights last week.  Maybe the solution is to eat more and, like someone else suggested, get much more volume in your routine.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 10:05:32 AM
Adonis I never lyied about my weight. I am 6'3" 1/2! I just check my weight before yesterday and with the clothes on after a workout it was 219 pds.

Why are you including the weight of your clothes in your bodyweight?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Mars on September 08, 2006, 10:05:38 AM
What a beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 10:07:28 AM
Why are you including the weight of your clothes in your bodyweight?

Well I was in shorts, muscle shirt and jordans so.. take away about 2-4 pounds? I am not used to taing my clothes of in the middle of the gym and stepping on the scale. At least if it was a baileys or YMCA where there are tons of hot chicks I wouldn't mind.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:07:59 AM
I have to agree with TA on this one, there's no way in hell you're 220 in that pic.  I'd say 190 (I'm in a generous mood today)
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: st@nco on September 08, 2006, 10:08:38 AM
alexxx, considering how much shit you talk to others, I wouldn't have posted these pics.

you look ok, for an average joe that trains a bit.

maybe you should stop running your mouth and train more.

dude, you're an idiot!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Mars on September 08, 2006, 10:10:05 AM
140 pounds maxx.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: efirkey on September 08, 2006, 10:10:34 AM
For 6'3" you look pretty good, but I see little improvement from 2003 to 2006 in the pictures.  How about a front double bi pose and what do your legs look like?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2006, 10:10:58 AM
alexxx you dont have any more bodyfat. if you lose that youll probably be dead. its about 20-30 pounds of water to lose
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Post by: Adam Empire on September 08, 2006, 10:11:41 AM
He weighs like 216 like he said.  The guy is taller than the average bber by a mile.
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Post by: buffbodz on September 08, 2006, 10:15:01 AM
Dude, why do you put others down when that's all you've got?  Monster delusional.
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Post by: Bast000 on September 08, 2006, 10:16:16 AM
Yea I believe the weight because of the height.   Alexxx I would just do normal training. 

If you were 200lbs with a 29" waist 3 years ago and now you are 219lbs with a 32" waist, that isn't a very big improvement because you still have fat to lose to get that 29" waist.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:17:37 AM
Yea I believe the weight because of the height.   Alexxx I would just do normal training. 

If you were 200lbs with a 29" waist 3 years ago and now you are 219lbs with a 32" waist, that isn't a very big improvement because you still have fat to lose to get that 29" waist.

Exactly.  Well put.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:21:04 AM
Alexxx, when do you think you'll break the 11" mark on the arms?  (that's a serious question)
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Playboy on September 08, 2006, 10:21:35 AM
The pics from 2003 are when I used to train volume 6 times a week. I weighted barely 200 pounds and my waist was 29 inches.

Right now I am a little under 220 pounds with a 32 inch waist. Since 2005 I have been on and off dc training.

Take everything under consideration. I would like to know which pictures impress you the most and where is the shape and mass better.

Have no pity I can take anything so be honest.
You should concentrate on putting on more size. Lee Priest is your weight and he is quadruple your size and half your height. I have friends that compete at 180lbs and they are bigger and far more ripped. If that is honestly your photos I would seriously stop bragging on this site and start traing hardcore promptly.

PB
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Mars on September 08, 2006, 10:22:05 AM
Alexx trains for cuts, not for mass.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Fury on September 08, 2006, 10:22:41 AM
What a little bottom bitch.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: FreshMintBlue on September 08, 2006, 10:24:22 AM
I guess its alexxx time to suck the dick this time
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 10:26:14 AM
You wasted your time DC training.

Everyone will tell you based on your pictures you posted.

tell me why you think this.....
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JasonH on September 08, 2006, 10:28:03 AM
You could do with improvement mate - you look as though you don't eat nearly enough for someone of your height. Stop all the volume training and hit the gym for hard and very heavy workouts - cut down on all aerobic activity as well to put on mass. Don't worry about your waist size for now - that will be the first thing to decrease when you start cutting up. Seriously man, you haven't really made significant gains in the difference between the two pics. Just giving you honest advice.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 10:29:35 AM
You could do with improvement mate - you look as though you don't eat nearly enough for someone of your height. Stop all the volume training and hit the gym for hard and very heavy workouts - cut down on all aerobic activity as well to put on mass. Don't worry about your waist size for now - that will be the first thing to decrease when you start cutting up. Seriously man, you haven't really made significant gains in the difference between the two pics. Just giving you honest advice.

STOP TELLING THIS KID TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is not the problem.  He IS eating plenty enough. More than likely TOO MUCH.

When are you fucksticks going to learn that the normal hard trainer gain 3-4 pounds of muscle a year. 

YOU CANNOT RUSH A NATURAL MUSCLE GAIN.

Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Playboy on September 08, 2006, 10:30:37 AM
Alexx trains for cuts, not for mass.
ya...thats what they all say.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Playboy on September 08, 2006, 10:32:57 AM
STOP TELLING THIS KID TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is not the problem.  He IS eating plenty enough. More than likely TOO MUCH.

When are you fucksticks going to learn that the normal hard trainer gain 3-4 pounds of muscle a year. 

YOU CANNOT RUSH A NATURAL MUSCLE GAIN.


Then he should go to the Natural Board and post and stop bragging to the world on how great he is and how great he looks on every other board.  8)
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:33:43 AM
STOP TELLING THIS KID TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is not the problem.  He IS eating plenty enough. More than likely TOO MUCH.

When are you fucksticks going to learn that the normal hard trainer gain 3-4 pounds of muscle a year. 

YOU CANNOT RUSH A NATURAL MUSCLE GAIN.



With that kind of mentality, TA, it's no wonder you look like you've been lifting weights for two months
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: sean on September 08, 2006, 10:33:58 AM
STOP TELLING THIS KID TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is not the problem.  He IS eating plenty enough. More than likely TOO MUCH.

When are you fucksticks going to learn that the normal hard trainer gain 3-4 pounds of muscle a year. 

YOU CANNOT RUSH A NATURAL MUSCLE GAIN.



Ok Adonis. Spoken from a true professional.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JasonH on September 08, 2006, 10:34:11 AM
Exactly. I would be fcuking embarrassed if I looked like that after all these years of training.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 10:39:56 AM
I am going to go back to my old training routines. I was stronger back then anyways. I will incorporate some of daddywaddy's principals into my own training and do each workout by instinct.

I have nothing against Dante. I think he has a great training system. But for me personaly volume is key.

HERE I COME ARNOLD/RONNIE COLEMAN WORKOUT OF THE CHAMPIONS!!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: jaejonna on September 08, 2006, 10:40:23 AM
Alexxx has made improvements from 2003.... at least he post pics not like most of you fatasses
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2006, 10:40:53 AM
I am going to go back to my old training routines. I was stronger back then anyways. I will incorporate some of daddywaddy's principals into my own training and do each workout by instinct.

I have nothing against Dante. I think he has a great training system. But for me personaly volume is key.

HERE I COME ARNOLD/RONNIE COLEMAN WORKOUT OF THE CHAMPIONS!!

do the pushups let me know how it goes
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:45:41 AM
Alexxx has made improvements from 2003.... at least he post pics not like most of you fatasses

Ah, another mass monster throws his hat in the ring.  Jae, it's a good thing Alexxx is here, otherwise you'd be the smallest and softest dude on getbig.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Bast000 on September 08, 2006, 10:46:44 AM


I have nothing against Dante. I think he has a great training system. But for me personaly volume is key.


No, DC doesn't work well for anyone except for guys on steroids.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: jaejonna on September 08, 2006, 10:47:09 AM
Ah, another mass monster throws his hat in the ring.  Jae, it's a good thing Alexxx is here, otherwise you'd be the smallest and softest dude on getbig.
ok coming from a closet homo who is 6-2 and 160 hahahah
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 10:47:38 AM
STOP TELLING THIS KID TO EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is not the problem.  He IS eating plenty enough. More than likely TOO MUCH.

When are you fucksticks going to learn that the normal hard trainer gain 3-4 pounds of muscle a year. 

YOU CANNOT RUSH A NATURAL MUSCLE GAIN.



1st of all Meltdown

2nd, he's in his prime, natural test levels are high, he can do better than 3-5lbs of LBM a year and if he can't he should stop lifting.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: wood on September 08, 2006, 10:48:58 AM
Yeah, what he said.

And WTF is with the back pose? WTF is that?

bump

With all the resources available today, there is no reason not to at least attempt to do a mandatory pose if you're trying to show your physique.

Either that, or just post relaxed photos for comparison.  Hopefully, the "Mr. Getbig" will help set some standards for posing in here.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:49:52 AM
ok coming from a closet homo who is 6-2 and 160 hahahah

First of all, I ain't a homo.  I've been married 7 years.  The homo Tito thing is a gimmick to get a laugh.

Secondly, I am 6'1" and 132.5 lbs.  Please make a note of this and get it right next time, niblet fock.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: jaejonna on September 08, 2006, 10:50:54 AM
First of all, I ain't a homo.  I've been married 7 years.  The homo Tito thing is a gimmick to get a laugh.

Secondly, I am 6'1" and 132.5 lbs.  Please make a note of this and get it right next time, niblet fock.

meltdow n
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 10:54:47 AM
meltdow n

Meltdown?  Is that the best you got?  Go spend some more time in the gym, kid, then come back and throw around your junior high insults.  Alas, another keyboard cowboy.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 10:55:07 AM
No, DC doesn't work well for anyone except for guys on steroids.

wrong-o, bast...but then again even if you believed it you're too much of an adonis sheep to admit it..let's face it you won't jump unless TA tells you too.  Sheep.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Always Sore on September 08, 2006, 10:59:09 AM
I have just one question..where is my shirt.. ;D
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: jaejonna on September 08, 2006, 11:00:20 AM
Meltdown?  Is that the best you got?  Go spend some more time in the gym, kid, then come back and throw around your junior high insults.  Alas, another keyboard cowboy.



JOEY TITO EXERPTS


if you could feel what it was like to be snuggled in those gargantuan arms, you'd know what I was talkin about.
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163   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 12:08:24 PM  
Man I dont know why u guys are hatin on him so much.  He's awesome, so awesome in person.  His bis are harder than rock and so are his lats (I snuck a couple squeezes when he had his arms around me).
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164   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 11:38:05 AM  
Hey man don't knock my man King.  About a year ago I was working out in a gym where he was.  I walked over to him (like the crazed fan I am) and he was real cool with me.  He was reppin out on inclines at 350 or so.  Man he was huge and very very cool as a dude.  He even let me squeeze his bis a couple times and give him a hug.  MAn he is AWESOME  Kudos to you king for being such a class act.  Dont listen to the hate, you're da man!  Best of luck at the Mr O!  



go back to san fran with all that sissy stuff homo hjahahahahah oh brother hahahaha
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: FreshMintBlue on September 08, 2006, 11:06:32 AM


JOEY TITO EXERPTS


if you could feel what it was like to be snuggled in those gargantuan arms, you'd know what I was talkin about.
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163   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 12:08:24 PM 
Man I dont know why u guys are hatin on him so much.  He's awesome, so awesome in person.  His bis are harder than rock and so are his lats (I snuck a couple squeezes when he had his arms around me).
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164   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 11:38:05 AM 
Hey man don't knock my man King.  About a year ago I was working out in a gym where he was.  I walked over to him (like the crazed fan I am) and he was real cool with me.  He was reppin out on inclines at 350 or so.  Man he was huge and very very cool as a dude.  He even let me squeeze his bis a couple times and give him a hug.  MAn he is AWESOME  Kudos to you king for being such a class act.  Dont listen to the hate, you're da man!  Best of luck at the Mr O!  



go back to san fran with all that sissy stuff homo hjahahahahah oh brother hahahaha


fuck me...monster ownage kekeke
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: FreshMintBlue on September 08, 2006, 11:07:42 AM
I have just one question..where is my shirt.. ;D
ROFL
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Bast000 on September 08, 2006, 11:10:56 AM
"He even let me squeeze his bis a couple times and give him a hug. "

hahaha tito is a funny guy
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 11:11:35 AM


JOEY TITO EXERPTS


if you could feel what it was like to be snuggled in those gargantuan arms, you'd know what I was talkin about.
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163   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 12:08:24 PM  
Man I dont know why u guys are hatin on him so much.  He's awesome, so awesome in person.  His bis are harder than rock and so are his lats (I snuck a couple squeezes when he had his arms around me).
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164   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 11:38:05 AM  
Hey man don't knock my man King.  About a year ago I was working out in a gym where he was.  I walked over to him (like the crazed fan I am) and he was real cool with me.  He was reppin out on inclines at 350 or so.  Man he was huge and very very cool as a dude.  He even let me squeeze his bis a couple times and give him a hug.  MAn he is AWESOME  Kudos to you king for being such a class act.  Dont listen to the hate, you're da man!  Best of luck at the Mr O!  



go back to san fran with all that sissy stuff homo hjahahahahah oh brother hahahaha


Wow, you must really have a lot of time on your hands to dig up my old posts.  Are you really that stupid not to see that I am being ironic and completely idiotic in those posts?  Only a fool takes that kind of joking seriously.  King is a moron, everyone knows that, so why not post something totally opposite for shits and giggles?  You have a lot to learn, kid.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 08, 2006, 11:26:38 AM
so now you weigh about 215 and 3 years ago you weighed 200.  You gained 3" on your waist so we should probably assume that you gained about 12-15 lbs of fat and 0-3 lbs of muscle.

Sorry but that's pretty shitty progress for 3 years of training.  You need to seriously re-examine your methods.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: buffbodz on September 08, 2006, 11:46:43 AM
First of all, I ain't a homo.  I've been married 7 years.  The homo Tito thing is a gimmick to get a laugh.

Secondly, I am 6'1" and 132.5 lbs.  Please make a note of this and get it right next time, niblet fock.

6'1" @ 132.5 lbs.  You're kidding right?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 11:46:54 AM
so now you weigh about 215 and 3 years ago you weighed 200.  You gained 3" on your waist so we should probably assume that you gained about 12-15 lbs of fat and 0-3 lbs of muscle.

Sorry but that's pretty shitty progress for 3 years of training.  You need to seriously re-examine your methods.

AND THOSE FOLKS ARE THE RESULTS OF 3 YEARS DC TRAINING!

so now you weigh about 215 and 3 years ago you weighed 200.  You gained 3" on your waist so we should probably assume that you gained about 12-15 lbs of fat and 0-3 lbs of muscle.

Sorry but that's pretty shitty progress for 3 years of training.  You need to seriously re-examine your methods.[/
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Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 11:53:17 AM
AND THOSE FOLKS ARE THE RESULTS OF 3 YEARS DC TRAINING!

so now you weigh about 215 and 3 years ago you weighed 200.  You gained 3" on your waist so we should probably assume that you gained about 12-15 lbs of fat and 0-3 lbs of muscle.

Sorry but that's pretty shitty progress for 3 years of training.  You need to seriously re-examine your methods.[/
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Adonis I didn't follow the program to a tee. I always only did it 4-12 weeks at a time and then would switch and then back again. I lost direction. When I was younger I had a clear vision of the physique I wanted and therefore was very determined to get it.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JeanPaul on September 08, 2006, 11:55:05 AM
I cant belive I am about to say it, but Alexxx well done. For a young natural guy you look good. I agree with comments that you should talk less crap about others but overall you did well. Dont listen to haters and especially idiot like TA.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 11:55:36 AM
6'1" @ 132.5 lbs.  You're kidding right?

Of course.  Though since Jae is so dense, I naturally expect him to take me totally serious and to dredge up that post 5 years from now to show that he is owning me.  LOL
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: texasRUSH on September 08, 2006, 11:55:45 AM
lmao

THIS IS THE BIG TIME BULLSHITTER?  ???

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THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL BE MR. OLYMPIA IS IF SOMEONE HERE PHOTOSHOPS YOUR FACE ONTO RON'S BODY! LOL AND EVEN THAT WOULD BE A "GIFT"!!!  ;D
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
I cant belive I am about to say it, but Alexxx well done. For a young natural guy you look good. I agree with comments that you should talk less crap about others but overall you did well. Dont listen to haters and especially idiot like TA.

Thanks bro!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 11:59:19 AM
AND THOSE FOLKS ARE THE RESULTS OF 3 YEARS DC TRAINING!

so now you weigh about 215 and 3 years ago you weighed 200.  You gained 3" on your waist so we should probably assume that you gained about 12-15 lbs of fat and 0-3 lbs of muscle.

Sorry but that's pretty shitty progress for 3 years of training.  You need to seriously re-examine your methods.[/
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Monster meltdown

here's a perfect example of an idiot at play.  First lets take a minute and ask alexxx a simple question. How long has he been using "his version" of DC training?  Not very long.  Has he been using it excactly as it's described?  Sorry Alexxx, nothing againts you but the answer is no.  He's been using some methods but some are not even close.  What's his diet look like?  Don't know.  You're totally grasping for straws.  If you were smart, which I thought you were but now I don't know you'd have said something like this:

Alexxx, since I started reading your posts you've switched training styles petty much every month.  This is not a good way to build lean mass.  I suggest you find a routine and stick with it for at least 6 months, monitor you're progress and if it's not working switch up.  Now Alexxx is young and he has not been training that long.  Now if you-TA-new a thing about DC training you'd realize that it's not supposed to be used bya "beginner"-this means guys that have not been training hard for at least a few years.  Now we all think we train hard but it's doubtful that a guy that's only been training for 3 years is "really" training hard.  Nothing againts you alexxx but you have to learn you're body and it takes awhile before you know how to really push yourself.

TA-you make blanket statements with nothing to back it up.  Alexxx has only been training for a few months using DC and I bet if he posted his workouts I could find flaws in what he's doing and I'm not even a DC expert.  Alexxx interprets it a little different than it's supposed to be.  I would like you to point out specific aspects of his physique that are being affected in a negative way SOLELY  because he's been using DC for the last 5-8 weeks, which in reality is one blast which does not account for 3 years of training.

is he using carb cutt offs?  Is he doing cardio?  Is he eating the way the plan is laid out on the net, protien first...etc?  How many blasts has he done?  What's his routine like?  You don't know any of this yet you say something stupid like that...again you prove that your utter hatred for DC has clouded your judgement.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Big Worm on September 08, 2006, 11:59:31 AM
Well I was in shorts, muscle shirt and jordans so.. take away about 2-4 pounds? I am not used to taing my clothes of in the middle of the gym and stepping on the scale. At least if it was a baileys or YMCA where there are tons of hot chicks I wouldn't mind.
Alexx...Weight is not important...All that is important..Look good in your clothes...Look better out of them!!!  Ladies don't like it, when guys,, walk around sucking their gut's in..then when unclothed..they're all bumpy ,in the gut !  

 Keep up the good work playboy.. Take your time..You're young,, and over time ., will get bigger ,and stronger! There's no rush..You don't look bad!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: jaejonna on September 08, 2006, 12:00:13 PM
Of course.  Though since Jae is so dense, I naturally expect him to take me totally serious and to dredge up that post 5 years from now to show that he is owning me.  LOL
hahaha five years ago = Aug 15, 2006 hahahahahaha monster delusional fag, retracting cocks statements hahahah
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:01:01 PM
Adonis I didn't follow the program to a tee. I always only did it 4-12 weeks at a time and then would switch and then back again. I lost direction. When I was younger I had a clear vision of the physique I wanted and therefore was very determined to get it.

thanks for proving my point alexxxx.  There is nothing wrong with trying new things just keep that in mind when things don't work out.  The program works best when it's not tweaked.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 12:04:26 PM
Monster meltdown

here's a perfect example of an idiot at play.  First lets take a minute and ask alexxx a simple question. How long has he been using "his version" of DC training?  Not very long.  Has he been using it excactly as it's described?  Sorry Alexxx, nothing againts you but the answer is no.  He's been using some methods but some are not even close.  What's his diet look like?  Don't know.  You're totally grasping for straws.  If you were smart, which I thought you were but now I don't know you'd have said something like this:

Alexxx, since I started reading your posts you've switched training styles petty much every month.  This is not a good way to build lean mass.  I suggest you find a routine and stick with it for at least 6 months, monitor you're progress and if it's not working switch up.  Now Alexxx is young and he has not been training that long.  Now if you-TA-new a thing about DC training you'd realize that it's not supposed to be used bya "beginner"-this means guys that have not been training hard for at least a few years.  Now we all think we train hard but it's doubtful that a guy that's only been training for 3 years is "really" training hard.  Nothing againts you alexxx but you have to learn you're body and it takes awhile before you know how to really push yourself.

TA-you make blanket statements with nothing to back it up.  Alexxx has only been training for a few months using DC and I bet if he posted his workouts I could find flaws in what he's doing and I'm not even a DC expert.  Alexxx interprets it a little different than it's supposed to be.  I would like you to point out specific aspects of his physique that are being affected in a negative way SOLELY  because he's been using DC for the last 5-8 weeks, which in reality is one blast which does not account for 3 years of training.

is he using carb cutt offs?  Is he doing cardio?  Is he eating the way the plan is laid out on the net, protien first...etc?  How many blasts has he done?  What's his routine like?  You don't know any of this yet you say something stupid like that...again you prove that your utter hatred for DC has clouded your judgement.

No offence natural al but I know the program way better than you. I didn't follow the you must eat 2 grams per pound of bodyweight advice though. I am not blamming the program I am blaming myself for letting myself get so out of shape and turning in circles.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 12:05:49 PM
Alexx...Weight is not important...All that is important..Look good in your clothes...Look better out of them!!!  Ladies don't like it, when guys,, walk around sucking their gut's in..then when unclothed..they're all bumpy ,in the gut !  

 Keep up the good work playboy.. Take your time..You're young,, and over time ., will get bigger ,and stronger! There's no rush..You don't look bad!

Thanks Big Worm. I used to make pretty steady gains each year while staying lean. Thats how I will continue to do it.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: jaejonna on September 08, 2006, 12:07:54 PM
Thanks Big Worm. I used to make pretty steady gains each year while staying lean. Thats how I will continue to do it.
Alexxx you have a long road ahead of you ...the first initial three years are the hardest. What is important is that you KNOW more about BB than most people who have been lifting for years on end...Knowing is Half the Battle!!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:08:57 PM
No offence natural al but I know the program way better than you. I didn't follow the you must eat 2 grams per pound of bodyweight advice though. I am not blamming the program I am blaming myself for letting myself get so out of shape and turning in circles.

if you believe that it's cool.  Whatever.  I don't want to get into a pissing match with you.  Bottom line is if you had been training for 8 years and the last 3 were on DC then perhaps you could blame any lack of progress on the program but 6 months does not say for sure that the program works or not. That's what I was saying.  I'm not saying you didn't progress, I have not really looked but it's just a joke that TA makes these blanket statements and the sheep here jump on board.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Playboy on September 08, 2006, 12:09:03 PM
Alexx...Weight is not important...All that is important..Look good in your clothes...Look better out of them!!!  Ladies don't like it, when guys,, walk around sucking their gut's in..then when unclothed..they're all bumpy ,in the gut !  

 Keep up the good work playboy.. Take your time..You're young,, and over time ., will get bigger ,and stronger! There's no rush..You don't look bad!
WTF are you talking about??? I didn't even post any pics up and i'm 32 years old.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 12:10:59 PM
hahaha five years ago = Aug 15, 2006 hahahahahaha monster delusional fag, retracting cocks statements hahahah

Um, you idiot.  Why don't you go back to remedial english and learn some basic reading comprehension.  I said that, knowing what a tool you are, you would dredge up the "6'1" 132.5 lbs" post five years from now.  You show your true ignorance with each additional post.  You actually make me laugh, you're so fukin stupid.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: jaejonna on September 08, 2006, 12:15:14 PM
Um, you idiot.  Why don't you go back to remedial english and learn some basic reading comprehension.  I said that, knowing what a tool you are, you would dredge up the "6'1" 132.5 lbs" post five years from now.  You show your true ignorance with each additional post.  You actually make me laugh, you're so fukin stupid.
meltd0wn








ps if you know remedial english you can read that where I took your statements clearly say August 15, 2006....monster five years ago....oh brother hahahahahha
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Big Worm on September 08, 2006, 12:16:17 PM
WTF are you talking about??? I didn't even post any pics up and i'm 32 years old.
Hey shitstain..I called Alexxx playboy..I had no clue you even  existed!

 
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Fury on September 08, 2006, 12:17:13 PM


JOEY TITO EXERPTS


if you could feel what it was like to be snuggled in those gargantuan arms, you'd know what I was talkin about.
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163   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 12:08:24 PM 
Man I dont know why u guys are hatin on him so much.  He's awesome, so awesome in person.  His bis are harder than rock and so are his lats (I snuck a couple squeezes when he had his arms around me).
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164   Getbig Main Discussion Boards / Gossip & Opinions / Re: Kamali's dream, circa 2000  on: August 15, 2006, 11:38:05 AM 
Hey man don't knock my man King.  About a year ago I was working out in a gym where he was.  I walked over to him (like the crazed fan I am) and he was real cool with me.  He was reppin out on inclines at 350 or so.  Man he was huge and very very cool as a dude.  He even let me squeeze his bis a couple times and give him a hug.  MAn he is AWESOME  Kudos to you king for being such a class act.  Dont listen to the hate, you're da man!  Best of luck at the Mr O!  



go back to san fran with all that sissy stuff homo hjahahahahah oh brother hahahaha


HAHAHAHAHAHAH, suffice to say that Joey Tito should never post here again. That's sickening.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 12:17:57 PM
Monster meltdown

here's a perfect example of an idiot at play.  First lets take a minute and ask alexxx a simple question. How long has he been using "his version" of DC training?  Not very long.  Has he been using it excactly as it's described?  Sorry Alexxx, nothing againts you but the answer is no.  He's been using some methods but some are not even close.  What's his diet look like?  Don't know.  You're totally grasping for straws.  If you were smart, which I thought you were but now I don't know you'd have said something like this:

Alexxx, since I started reading your posts you've switched training styles petty much every month.  This is not a good way to build lean mass.  I suggest you find a routine and stick with it for at least 6 months, monitor you're progress and if it's not working switch up.  Now Alexxx is young and he has not been training that long.  Now if you-TA-new a thing about DC training you'd realize that it's not supposed to be used bya "beginner"-this means guys that have not been training hard for at least a few years.  Now we all think we train hard but it's doubtful that a guy that's only been training for 3 years is "really" training hard.  Nothing againts you alexxx but you have to learn you're body and it takes awhile before you know how to really push yourself.

TA-you make blanket statements with nothing to back it up.  Alexxx has only been training for a few months using DC and I bet if he posted his workouts I could find flaws in what he's doing and I'm not even a DC expert.  Alexxx interprets it a little different than it's supposed to be.  I would like you to point out specific aspects of his physique that are being affected in a negative way SOLELY  because he's been using DC for the last 5-8 weeks, which in reality is one blast which does not account for 3 years of training.

is he using carb cutt offs?  Is he doing cardio?  Is he eating the way the plan is laid out on the net, protien first...etc?  How many blasts has he done?  What's his routine like?  You don't know any of this yet you say something stupid like that...again you prove that your utter hatred for DC has clouded your judgement.

NATURAL AL.

You And Dante` CANNOT produce one average guy that he has worked with and PROVED that he has obtained ANY results whatsoever.

You won`t put up your pics.  You readily admit you are obese. That is fine.

But him.  The Creator of the program. CANNOT PRODUCE ONE REGULAR GUY that came to him for help, thus producing dramatic results.

NOT ONE.

He is a clown.  You admit you are obese, so why are you following his eating system.

YOU CANNOT RUSH A NATURAL MUSCLE GAIN.  0-5 lbs a year MAX for someone who has been training for a long time.

JUST LIKE A LIFETIME NATURAL 210 lbs RIPPED, under 5`11 DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!!!

NOBODY HAS PROVIDED ANY PICTURES OF ANYONE THAT MEETS THAT CRITERIA EITHER OR CAN VALIDATE ANYONE WITH THOSE PROPORTIONS.

Yet you and Dante` think its possible.  hahhahahahhah DELUSIONAL.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Sculpter on September 08, 2006, 12:19:09 PM
Honest to goodness Alexxx I think your still a young lad so I won't hold that against you & stating that, I really believe what your missing is dedication/committment to your training.I honestly believe that your the young type of guy that trains for a bit then slacks off for a few weeks/mnths & then after a period of time will get back to the gym because they notice themselves getting out of shape.I say that because based on your pics you dont have any real noticeable improvement to me except for your arms, delts & chest which are the "show" muscles of the body.After 3 yrs. of training you should have much more noticeable improvements all over than what the pics you post show.Maybe your diet (if you do indeed follow one?) isn't the best in the world either.As to your pics?Your 2003 volume pics look better to me than the 2006 pics.Yes you have gained on the arms,delts & chest like I stated but the 2003 pics imo have a more dense look to them, just missing the size to go with.Cut the DC training, get more committed to your training & diet & you'll be on your way.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 12:22:23 PM
meltd0wn

ps if you know remedial english you can read that where I took your statements clearly say August 15, 2006....monster five years ago....oh brother hahahahahha

Meltdown
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Playboy on September 08, 2006, 12:22:42 PM
Hey shitstain..I called Alexxx playboy..I had no clue you even  existed!

 
Feeling is very mutual.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Joey Tito on September 08, 2006, 12:23:23 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAH, suffice to say that Joey Tito should never post here again. That's sickening.

Yet another tool with no sense of irony or humor.  LOL
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:25:13 PM
NATURAL AL.

You And Dante` CANNOT produce one average guy that he has worked with and PROVED that he has obtained ANY results whatsoever.

You won`t put up your pics.  You readily admit you are obese. That is fine.

But him.  The Creator of the program. CANNOT PRODUCE ONE REGULAR GUY that came to him for help, thus producing dramatic results.

NOT ONE.

He is a clown.  You admit you are obese, so why are you following his eating system.

YOU CANNOT RUSH A NATURAL MUSCLE GAIN.  0-5 lbs a year MAX for someone who has been training for a long time.

JUST LIKE A LIFETIME NATURAL 210 lbs RIPPED, under 5`11 DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!!!

NOBODY HAS PROVIDED ANY PICTURES OF ANYONE THAT MEETS THAT CRITERIA EITHER OR CAN VALIDATE ANYONE WITH THOSE PROPORTIONS.

Yet you and Dante` think its possible.  hahhahahahhah DELUSIONAL.

slow down there slick.  I already explained why I don't post pics right now and everyone who saw the post agreed with my reasoning.  I'll be happy to re-type it out, it's pretty obvious when you look at the last 2 years of my life that I have not trained in a consistant manner.  So you're a complete idiot right there.  I'm not "obese" I'm at about 12% BF, that ain't obese.

You keep saying I'm obese to try to get me to say something or do something....sorry slick, I'm smarter than you.  I don't follow the DC diet because it's not something that is readily availible on the net, there are some guidelines but that's it.  I've also said this a number of times.  I eat about 200grams of protien a day..I'm on more of a maintinance diet since I can't train 100% right now it'd be stupid to go any higher, although on some days I hit about 230g's.

You're grasping at straws, clown boy.  I won't bit on you're bullshit.  All you'r doing is getting madder and madder because I can counter your stupid posts with logic and you can't handle it.

Again, what specific aspects of alexxx's body are weak due to the 6 weeks of DC he did?  Specific aspects that suffered during his "tweaked" dc routine?  Can't answer it cause he didn't do it long enough to tell, you moron.

I never said one word about what I do or don't think is possible for a natural guy to achieve on any program so again you talk out of you're ass.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on September 08, 2006, 12:25:56 PM
uhhh 3 years? Are you using a metric calendar Alexxx?  You just started in July (2 months ago)

 http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57051.msg1191352#msg1191352

Adonis how many times do i have to make you eat dirt? You said Steve Kuclo was on sauce when he was 17...I said he won the teen nats clean (and troponin backed me up on that)....you said yesterday I never train anyone natural that did anything....I put Travis Macduffs pics up ABA INPA professional 2 years after i started training him......you are obsessed with me and every post involves my name and I let everyone know its because I rejected you as a trainee openly on musclemayhem and obviously you cant get over it....it goes on and on...you say your bullshit and i shove it down your throat....its got to be kind of getting embarrasing for you  
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:29:06 PM
uhhh 3 years? Are you using a metric calendar Alexxx?  You just started in July (2 months ago)

 http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57051.msg1191352#msg1191352

Adonis how many times do i have to make you eat dirt? You said Steve Kuclo was on sauce when he was 17...I said he won the teen nats clean (and troponin backed me up on that)....you said yesterday I never train anyone natural that did anything....I put Travis Macduffs pics up ABA INPA professional 2 years after i started training him......you are obsessed with me and every post involves my name and I let everyone know its because I rejected you as a trainee openly on musclemayhem and obviously you cant get over it....it goes on and on...you say your bullshit and i shove it down your throat....its got to be kind of getting embarrasing for you  

DC, do me a favor and verify that you don't train me so adonis can stop acting like you do.  I understand you're concepts as far as training but have never claimed to know a thing about the diet or advanced techniques...nor have I ever trained a single person using your methods.

It's just common sense that drives me to respond to adams moronic posts.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on September 08, 2006, 12:32:34 PM
I dont know if i should natural Al because he is getting so worked up the last couple days its kind of hilarious to see him have a nuclear breakdown---I predict a straight jacket and a leather helmet for him within 10 days
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 12:32:52 PM
uhhh 3 years? Are you using a metric calendar Alexxx?  You just started in July (2 months ago)

 http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57051.msg1191352#msg1191352

Adonis how many times do i have to make you eat dirt? You said Steve Kuclo was on sauce when he was 17...I said he won the teen nats clean (and troponin backed me up on that)....you said yesterday I never train anyone natural that did anything....I put Travis Macduffs pics up ABA INPA professional 2 years after i started training him......you are obsessed with me and every post involves my name and I let everyone know its because I rejected you as a trainee openly on musclemayhem and obviously you cant get over it....it goes on and on...you say your bullshit and i shove it down your throat....its got to be kind of getting embarrasing for you  

He DIDN`T WIN TEEN NATURALS CLEAN!
That is a fact my friend.  

Where ARE THE RESULTS DANTE`?

The guys you mentioned above already were in shape and made that progress BEFORE believing your lies.  BEFORE!  Get it?

What HAVE YOU DONE? Show us all the AFTERS...THE AFTERS.  Get it?

Show us also an AVERAGE JOE that came to you and you took on. Show us those results. I don`t think they exist.

And that guy you fucked up in Canada. What happend to him?


There was another guy you fucked over,got way too fat. Silverback I think he used to go by.

Your failure rate outweighs your success rate. LOOK AT ALEXXX AND NATURAL AL.

Al thinks hes 12 percent.  He has convinced himself of this. Alexxx thinks he is 10 percent.  This has alot to do with your SPIN on the FAT GAINS THEY HAVE MADE!!!!!


Face it chump.  You are just another Carnie in a Fucked up Circus full of Delusional Clowns.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:35:22 PM
He DIDN`T WIN TEEN NATURALS CLEAN!
That is a fact my friend.  

Where ARE THE RESULTS DANTE`?

The guys you mentioned above already were in shape and made that progress BEFORE believing your lies.  BEFORE!  Get it?

What HAVE YOU DONE? Show us all the AFTERS...THE AFTERS.  Get it?

Show us also an AVERAGE JOE that came to you and you took on. Show us those results. I don`t think they exist.

And that guy you fucked up in Canada. What happend to him?


There was another guy you fucked over,got way too fat. Silverback I think he used to go by.

Your failure rate outweighs your success rate. LOOK AT ALEXXX AND NATURAL AL.

Al thinks hes 12 percent.  He has convinced himself of this. Alexxx thinks he is 10 percent.  This has alot to do with your SPIN on the FAT GAINS THEY HAVE MADE!!!!!


Face it chump.  You are just another Carnie in a Fucked up Circus full of Delusional Clowns.

man, you're such a chump.  how many guys does he train?  How many guys are over at IM using his methods.

You're living a lie buddy.  Plain and simple.

Do yourself a favor and just say "maybe different things work for different people" and move on in life.

The results are there you just CHOOSE not to see them.

IDIOT of the highest degree..
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:36:58 PM
I dont know if i should natural Al because he is getting so worked up the last couple days its kind of hilarious to see him have a nuclear breakdown---I predict a straight jacket and a leather helmet for him within 10 days

well if you're not gonna admit you "don't" train me why don't ya?  True Protien could sponser me..
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 12:37:49 PM
man, you're such a chump.  how many guys does he train?  How many guys are over at IM using his methods.

You're living a lie buddy.  Plain and simple.

Do yourself a favor and just say "maybe different things work for different people" and move on in life.

The results are there you just CHOOSE not to see them.

IDIOT of the highest degree..

If thats the FUCKING CASE, SHOW ME WITH PICS!!!!!

RIGHT HERE ON THIS THREAD.  JUST ONE PERSON!!!! ONE.

Show me Before Dante` and after DANTE!

I would really like to see an Average Joes Before and Afters.

Guess what folks,
WE WILL NEVER SEE THEM. THE GAINS NEVER HAPPEND....IT WAS ALL FAT!@!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 12:40:35 PM
Adonis meltdown

Nope. Just kicking the real TRUTH as always.

People are thanking me left and right for it.

DOGGCRAPP wouldn`t be here if I wasn`t killing potential clients and current clients.

The more I can reach, the better.

This shit is bigger than that.  People in the industry are reading this and nodding their heads.  I doubt we will EVER see this FRAUD mentioned in any Muscle magazine ever again.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:41:14 PM
If thats the FUCKING CASE, SHOW ME WITH PICS!!!!!

RIGHT HERE ON THIS THREAD.  JUST ONE PERSON!!!! ONE.

Show me Before Dante` and after DANTE!

I would really like to see an Average Joes Before and Afters.

Guess what folks,
WE WILL NEVER SEE THEM. THE GAINS NEVER HAPPEND....IT WAS ALL FAT!@!!!!!!!

take your melting down ass over to IM, go to the dogpound and look at all the pics under the DC trainee gallery.  I'm not gonna copy and past pics here cause you're too lazey to go there and look for yourself..I don't have time for that....the proof is there you're just to delussional to see it...

sorry, if a guy wants to train like DW and it works that's great with me.  Too bad you can't stand to see anyone else succeed unless they suck your dick
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 08, 2006, 12:45:14 PM
Nope. Just kicking the real TRUTH as always.

People are thanking me left and right for it.

DOGGCRAPP wouldn`t be here if I wasn`t killing potential clients and current clients.

The more I can reach, the better.

This shit is bigger than that.  People in the industry are reading this and nodding their heads.  I doubt we will EVER see this FRAUD mentioned in any Muscle magazine ever again.

DC's promises steroid like results from eating big.  He can't quite deliver on this promise but DC training does simulate the effect of massive GH and Insulin abuse.  PALUMBOSIM WITHOUT DRUGS!  AWESOME.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:46:51 PM
DC's promises steroid like results from eating big.  He can't quite deliver on this promise but DC training does simulate the effect of massive GH and Insulin abuse.  PALUMBOSIM WITHOUT DRUGS!  AWESOME.

show an example....
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 08, 2006, 12:49:03 PM
show an example....

YOU FIRST GENIUS
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:50:31 PM
YOU FIRST GENIUS

no, no...think again bud.  You said it produces Polumboism, I didn't.  I already said how you can see guys who train DC..now be a big boy and back up what you said, otherwise shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 12:51:21 PM
I can see TA's client's "Before" and "After" pictures now...

Before:
"I was a whopping 315lbs at 5'2". That is until I became an Adonis client"

After:
"Now that I've been on the Adonis program for 6 months, I've eaten all the McDonalds and ice cream I can possibly stuff into my gut, and now I'm at a lythe 512lb!"

Wow, when you're this fucken insane, do you just go "Wow! I'm really fucken insane!"?

How do you explain my and Jezebelles results according to your logic?
hahhahahah

You are a FAT RETARD who injects SYNTHOL INTO FAT.....How pathetic is that?

Injecting Synthol into your Fat?   You look like throwup in an overflowed toilet at a dirty gas station.

You have OVER 100 lbs to lose. Have fun...You will never lose it.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: nycbull on September 08, 2006, 12:51:41 PM
alexx, im no fan of your body, but it is interesting that you and daddywaddy both posted pic threads of yourselves within minutes and your thread is peaking while his is down in the dumps. Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: stormshadow on September 08, 2006, 12:53:34 PM
haha..

Adonis was "Doggcrapp Denied"  I never knew that.  That just makes it all the more funny.

Adonis is the slow kid that wants to switch sides and play ball on the winning team.  Then when he is denied he hates on everyone.

Adonis, you will always be a leader to the slow and retarded.

Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:54:57 PM
How do you explain my and Jezebelles results according to your logic?
hahhahahah

You are a FAT RETARD who injects SYNTHOL INTO FAT.....How pathetic is that?

Injecting Synthol into your Fat?   You look like throwup in an overflowed toilet at a dirty gas station.

You have OVER 100 lbs to lose. Have fun...You will never lose it.

explain your chick?  Can't cause I've never seen a before and after pic and I don't believe she's a real person.

Done for the weekend...well, maybe I'll post tomorrow morning but other than that I'm going up north to help my mom out with my dad.

BTW Adonis-you loose, you're arguements are pathetic.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 12:56:03 PM
haha..

Adonis was "Doggcrapp Denied"  I never knew that.  That just makes it all the more funny.

Adonis is the slow kid that wants to switch sides and play ball on the winning team.  Then when he is denied he hates on everyone.

Adonis, you will always be a leader to the slow and retarded.



stormshadow, are you saying adonis is like a scorned lover?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on September 08, 2006, 12:56:35 PM
  I doubt we will EVER see this FRAUD mentioned in any Muscle magazine ever again.

Actually I was asked to write a monthly column a few weeks ago, which really isnt my cup of tea so i probably will pass..........hows that interview coming for Muscular Development? When do you think they actually will find out that they are interviewing you--LOL? Bro your mouth writes checks your ass cant cash
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: HERACLES on September 08, 2006, 12:58:05 PM
Alexx looks good.

It jus takes time man, when your natural, the best you can do to look impressive is go on a diet, and get lean..size comes with age, if your consistent you can prob see dramatic changes with every year..not 5 months regarding size, but you can conidtioning...

Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 08, 2006, 01:00:25 PM
Face it chump.  You are just another Carnie in a Fucked up Circus full of Delusional Clowns.
LMAOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2006, 01:02:19 PM
Actually I was asked to write a monthly column a few weeks ago, which really isnt my cup of tea so i probably will pass..........hows that interview coming for Muscular Development? When do you think they actually will find out that they are interviewing you--LOL? Bro your mouth writes checks your ass cant cash

And you cash checks that Delusional Asshole write.
You are a pathetic sleazebag.  I would hate to read your articles.  Believe me, that would never happen. We will never see you in a magazine again.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 08, 2006, 01:06:34 PM
You are a FAT RETARD who injects SYNTHOL INTO FAT.....How pathetic is that?

Injecting Synthol into your Fat?   You look like throwup in an overflowed toilet at a dirty gas station.
ROFL

anyway-


ALEXXX!!!! you are definitely looking leaner, good abs and detail in the back. you still want to lose 3 INCHES off your waist? you already look really lean around the midsection, i dont know where 3 more inches would come from! and as a natural becareful of overdieting! i would recommend dropping the high volume training and going to the fewer reps/heavier weights type program, ive been trying both lately and theres no comparison, for me anyways.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: stormshadow on September 08, 2006, 01:12:43 PM
And you cash checks that Delusional Asshole write.
You are a pathetic sleazebag.  I would hate to read your articles.  Believe me, that would never happen. We will never see you in a magazine again.

Chill out man, you are going to melt that 50 lbs of muscle right off your skeleton.

I think a higher power may be trying to tell me something about TA dieting.  In fact I ate some ice cream to try it out and ended up taking a big shit.  I looked in the bowl and saw what appeared to be an outline of your face in my shit.  Either that or you are an ugly mother $#$% with a fake girlfriend?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: cornebb on September 08, 2006, 01:32:55 PM
post some pics with u actualy posing, like a rear lat spread (or is that what u call a latspread), or front double biceps
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 08, 2006, 01:35:35 PM
no, no...think again bud.  You said it produces Polumboism, I didn't.  I already said how you can see guys who train DC..now be a big boy and back up what you said, otherwise shut the f**k up.

wow here's a new level of stupidity.  You geniuses have been saying all along that DC training works and have refused to produce photo evidence.  Now I say it turns people into fat POS Palumbo look alikes and the first thing you do is ask me to produce photos to prove it.  Don't you see the hypocrisy here?  After refusing to produce any photos what right do you have to ask me for photo proof?

The world must be very scarry when you are so stupid.  It must be very tempting to latch onto idiot blowhards like Dante.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Chico_Holiday on September 08, 2006, 01:52:26 PM
AND THOSE FOLKS ARE THE RESULTS OF 3 YEARS DC TRAINING!

so now you weigh about 215 and 3 years ago you weighed 200.  You gained 3" on your waist so we should probably assume that you gained about 12-15 lbs of fat and 0-3 lbs of muscle.

Sorry but that's pretty shitty progress for 3 years of training.  You need to seriously re-examine your methods.[/
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Monster font size!!!

hahahaha!!!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 08, 2006, 03:20:19 PM
Monster font size!!!

hahahaha!!!

monster critiques demand monster fonts
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: davidpaul on September 08, 2006, 03:24:34 PM
LOL at this thread, I think this badboy needs to get moved TO G@O.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 04:10:17 PM
Honest to goodness Alexxx I think your still a young lad so I won't hold that against you & stating that, I really believe what your missing is dedication/committment to your training.I honestly believe that your the young type of guy that trains for a bit then slacks off for a few weeks/mnths & then after a period of time will get back to the gym because they notice themselves getting out of shape.I say that because based on your pics you dont have any real noticeable improvement to me except for your arms, delts & chest which are the "show" muscles of the body.After 3 yrs. of training you should have much more noticeable improvements all over than what the pics you post show.Maybe your diet (if you do indeed follow one?) isn't the best in the world either.As to your pics?Your 2003 volume pics look better to me than the 2006 pics.Yes you have gained on the arms,delts & chest like I stated but the 2003 pics imo have a more dense look to them, just missing the size to go with.Cut the DC training, get more committed to your training & diet & you'll be on your way.

Nah bro I always trained every bodypart thouroughly from day 1. My legs are by far my best bodypart. They are probably the best on the whole board! ;D
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 04:13:47 PM
uhhh 3 years? Are you using a metric calendar Alexxx?  You just started in July (2 months ago)

 http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=57051.msg1191352#msg1191352

Adonis how many times do i have to make you eat dirt? You said Steve Kuclo was on sauce when he was 17...I said he won the teen nats clean (and troponin backed me up on that)....you said yesterday I never train anyone natural that did anything....I put Travis Macduffs pics up ABA INPA professional 2 years after i started training him......you are obsessed with me and every post involves my name and I let everyone know its because I rejected you as a trainee openly on musclemayhem and obviously you cant get over it....it goes on and on...you say your bullshit and i shove it down your throat....its got to be kind of getting embarrasing for you  

Dante if you bothered to read my posts I said that I did it on and off from 2005. About 6-16 weeks at a time.

DANTE I DO NOT BLAME YOUR PROGRAM FOR MY LACK OF PROGRESS.

I blame myself. My mind wasn't in a healthy place. I got to my biggest while using your program somewhat. 241 pounds and all fat from not doing enough cardio. So I blame myself again. All that on the healthiest food. I never had cheat meals.

DOGGCRAPP WORKS TO PUT MASS ON. Their are tons of success stories all over the internet!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Bast000 on September 08, 2006, 04:17:20 PM
I got to my biggest while using your program somewhat. 241 pounds and all fat from not doing enough cardio.

You don't need cardio to stay lean, you simply overate and undertrained.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 04:23:04 PM
ROFL

anyway-


ALEXXX!!!! you are definitely looking leaner, good abs and detail in the back. you still want to lose 3 INCHES off your waist? you already look really lean around the midsection, i dont know where 3 more inches would come from! and as a natural becareful of overdieting! i would recommend dropping the high volume training and going to the fewer reps/heavier weights type program, ive been trying both lately and theres no comparison, for me anyways.

Thanks bro. Actually I haven't done volume for a while and went for heavy freeweight basic movements.

I am now back at volume and will incorporate two parts to the routine. First part of the week would be heavy weights while second part higher reps.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 08, 2006, 05:09:06 PM
Thanks bro. Actually I haven't done volume for a while and went for heavy freeweight basic movements.

I am now back at volume and will incorporate two parts to the routine. First part of the week would be heavy weights while second part higher reps.
whatever you find works best for you is the way to go. good luck champion ;D
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 05:30:33 PM
whatever you find works best for you is the way to go. good luck champion ;D

Thank you!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 08, 2006, 05:44:15 PM
dc training is simply not enough volume alex....


ill give you an old pushup routine

reminder: when you do pushups your pushing up 60--70 percent of your weight. your still moving over a 100 pounds each rep for 5 minutes straight. which equates to a very high workload. try 5-5 minute pushups youll see what im talkin about

I will try this workout. Should I be doing this everyday?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 08, 2006, 06:15:16 PM
wow here's a new level of stupidity.  You geniuses have been saying all along that DC training works and have refused to produce photo evidence.  Now I say it turns people into fat POS Palumbo look alikes and the first thing you do is ask me to produce photos to prove it.  Don't you see the hypocrisy here?  After refusing to produce any photos what right do you have to ask me for photo proof?

The world must be very scarry when you are so stupid.  It must be very tempting to latch onto idiot blowhards like Dante.

ok dipshit.  Here's a thought, read my posts.  Go to Intense muscle and go to the dogpound, there's tons of pics there of people that dante has trained.  Why should I waste my time copying and pasting pics cause you're to lazy or stupid to go look where I said they were.

stupid no...maybe I just have better things to do with my time than copy and paste pics for a moron that makes a blanket statement and can't back it up.  What's the def. of palumboism?  big old gh gut with no arms and no legs?  Find me a guy that is trained by dante that looks like that...you can't or you would have already done it. 

here, since maybe it's too hard:

http://www.intensemuscle.com/forumdisplay.php?s=a54d51bd7507b552df185b4ceefcdf46&f=45

link to the page....
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 08, 2006, 08:04:31 PM
ok dipshit.  Here's a thought, read my posts.  Go to Intense muscle and go to the dogpound, there's tons of pics there of people that dante has trained.  Why should I waste my time copying and pasting pics cause you're to lazy or stupid to go look where I said they were.

stupid no...maybe I just have better things to do with my time than copy and paste pics for a moron that makes a blanket statement and can't back it up.  What's the def. of palumboism?  big old gh gut with no arms and no legs?  Find me a guy that is trained by dante that looks like that...you can't or you would have already done it. 

here, since maybe it's too hard:

http://www.intensemuscle.com/forumdisplay.php?s=a54d51bd7507b552df185b4ceefcdf46&f=45

link to the page....

wait so you wont take the time to post pics so why would you expect someone else to do it?  I just went to that forum and it requires login to view pics.  I think the problem is you don't know how to post pics.  Try to figure it out, it will be a rewarding experience for you, quite possibly your greatest intellectual achievement ever.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: headhuntersix on September 08, 2006, 11:36:28 PM
Dude u need to go back to what worked for u. u look a little better in th 05 pics. TA's shit works for him but I think u need to eat and fill out that frame. I do DC and will do it off and on all year from now on because it works for me. And for fuc%'s sake don't do the damm push up thing.. they're worthless especially for somebody who's trying to grow a chest. If they worked eveybody in the Army would have massive chests....
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 09, 2006, 05:55:43 AM
wait so you wont take the time to post pics so why would you expect someone else to do it?  I just went to that forum and it requires login to view pics.  I think the problem is you don't know how to post pics.  Try to figure it out, it will be a rewarding experience for you, quite possibly your greatest intellectual achievement ever.

again, you're an idiot.  I never asked you to post pics for me I said they are there to be viewed.  I didn't know you had to be a member to look at the pics cause I've been a member for along time.  Here's a pic just to show that I know how.

Now you talk about intellectual achievement?  You ran your mouth about polumboism and can't back it up to save your life.  You've provided zero proof of anything.  Lets see, DC training is all over the net, in the mags...yet you need me to post a pic for you to be satisfied?  The proof is all around you, you just choose not to see it.   You're just mad cause you made a moronic blanket statement that has no truth to it and someone called you on it....here's your pics fuckface:

Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 09, 2006, 05:57:29 AM
btw..the last pic of a guy that trains DC and has his prep done by troopinin-I think that's how you spell his name,,,,legs look pretty good for a program that doesn't work...oh yeah, he's only 20.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 09, 2006, 06:06:28 AM
here's 2 I already had on my harddrive, don't know who the first one is but he's from the trainee gallery, 2nd guy is only 20 years old:

Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Stavios on September 09, 2006, 06:19:50 AM
I think Alexxx looks the best in the pictures that CT took at the progym
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 09, 2006, 07:03:22 AM
here's 2 I already had on my harddrive, don't know who the first one is but he's from the trainee gallery, 2nd guy is only 20 years old:



hahaha the second guy looks 50

so what is your excuse now.  You just posted 5 or 6 pics and not one is of a successful NATURAL DC trainee.  I wonder why?  Maybe it's because the don't exist.  They all look like skinny-fat palumboism sufferers.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 09, 2006, 07:49:34 AM
hahaha the second guy looks 50

so what is your excuse now.  You just posted 5 or 6 pics and not one is of a successful NATURAL DC trainee.  I wonder why?  Maybe it's because the don't exist.  They all look like skinny-fat palumboism sufferers.

no you said DC training causes polumboism which isn't the case.  I never said I had pics of a natural guy, I said DC training does not cause plumboism which it doesn't.  You said it does, niether one of these guys has polumboism so now you go and post one of a guy that has it.

You're an idiot, plain and simple.  You can't back up one thing you've said.  All you do is keep asking me what my excuse is.  What's yours?  You have no arguement and all that this has proven is that you're a first class idiot.  You question my intellegce?  I question yours.  Are you sure your just not TA using another account?  All you can say is I want to see a natural guy.  Go through DC's posts on this site and he posted a pic of a naturla pro, I don't know the guys name but the pic is there.  Now if I posted that pic what would you say...he ain't natural.  Any pic that I could provide you'd say the guy isn't clean.  You're trying to goad me into an arguement that isn't there. 

Again, there's magazines, websites, pro bodybuilders, nationally qualified bodybuilders and other guys like the x-rep guys that are using dc to succeed, you just choose not see it.  Expand your mind, it's not all that hard.  Go read the flex article, go read the ironman article..or is actually reading something with an open mind beyond you?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 09, 2006, 07:57:52 AM
Dude u need to go back to what worked for u. u look a little better in th 05 pics. TA's shit works for him but I think u need to eat and fill out that frame. I do DC and will do it off and on all year from now on because it works for me. And for fuc%'s sake don't do the damm push up thing.. they're worthless especially for somebody who's trying to grow a chest. If they worked eveybody in the Army would have massive chests....

Yeah bro I would still be doing a heavy workout. I am thinking during the end of it.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 09, 2006, 08:18:31 AM
no you said DC training causes polumboism which isn't the case.  I never said I had pics of a natural guy, I said DC training does not cause plumboism which it doesn't.  You said it does, niether one of these guys has polumboism so now you go and post one of a guy that has it.

You're an idiot, plain and simple.  You can't back up one thing you've said.  All you do is keep asking me what my excuse is.  What's yours?  You have no arguement and all that this has proven is that you're a first class idiot.  You question my intellegce?  I question yours.  Are you sure your just not TA using another account?  All you can say is I want to see a natural guy.  Go through DC's posts on this site and he posted a pic of a naturla pro, I don't know the guys name but the pic is there.  Now if I posted that pic what would you say...he ain't natural.  Any pic that I could provide you'd say the guy isn't clean.  You're trying to goad me into an arguement that isn't there. 

Again, there's magazines, websites, pro bodybuilders, nationally qualified bodybuilders and other guys like the x-rep guys that are using dc to succeed, you just choose not see it.  Expand your mind, it's not all that hard.  Go read the flex article, go read the ironman article..or is actually reading something with an open mind beyond you?

monster excuses
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 09, 2006, 08:26:43 AM
monster excuses

monster not having any proof what so ever to back up what you said.  You're done, admit it, it's not hard.  All you have to say is "I said DC caused polumboism and I don't have any proof to back up my statements" 

I gave you a ton of places you can go to or things you can do, do you want me to hold your hand while you cross the street?  You're not as smart as you think you are that's easy to see.

It's like talking to a rock with you.  Now you resort to this type of response?  Stop already your looking worse and worse as the thread moves on.  Again go read the flex article, the ironman article go to IM, go to MM it's all over the place.  Maybe your in denial?  Just can't admit when you said something totally idiotic?  I don't know but you've got problems man.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 09, 2006, 02:31:16 PM
monster not having any proof what so ever to back up what you said.  You're done, admit it, it's not hard.  All you have to say is "I said DC caused polumboism and I don't have any proof to back up my statements" 

I gave you a ton of places you can go to or things you can do, do you want me to hold your hand while you cross the street?  You're not as smart as you think you are that's easy to see.

It's like talking to a rock with you.  Now you resort to this type of response?  Stop already your looking worse and worse as the thread moves on.  Again go read the flex article, the ironman article go to IM, go to MM it's all over the place.  Maybe your in denial?  Just can't admit when you said something totally idiotic?  I don't know but you've got problems man.

got any more excuses?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 09, 2006, 03:54:07 PM
got any more excuses?

thanks for proving my point by having zero eveidence to back up your statement.  I'm done with you.  You lose.  Fuckin zero.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 09, 2006, 05:19:07 PM
thanks for proving my point by having zero eveidence to back up your statement.  I'm done with you.  You lose.  Fuckin zero.

ok so now that you're all tuckered out maybe you will have the balls to post pics to prove your point.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 09, 2006, 06:57:02 PM
ok so now that you're all tuckered out maybe you will have the balls to post pics to prove your point.

you go ahead and believe what you want, you lost, plain and simple.  No proof whatso ever.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 09, 2006, 10:27:03 PM
you go ahead and believe what you want, you lost, plain and simple.  No proof whatso ever.

its simple stupid.  You cannot hold others to a standard of proof that you yourself refuse to meet.  So once you show good faith and provide the proof you were asked to provide I will be happy to oblige you.  Until then you will be a hypocrit.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 10, 2006, 05:34:00 AM
its simple stupid.  You cannot hold others to a standard of proof that you yourself refuse to meet.  So once you show good faith and provide the proof you were asked to provide I will be happy to oblige you.  Until then you will be a hypocrit.

whatever  ::) ::) ::).  I already posted where to get info and pics, I posted some pics, I did everything I had to do.  YOU don't seem to understand one little thing, I'm NOT DC, I'm not a trainer, I don't have access to anything more than you do.  You're nothing but an irrelevent piss ant who simply can't back anything he said up, it's not being a hypocrite, it's reality.  You've posted nothing, zero, ziltch.  YOu havent' even made an effort, all you do is say that I have no proof.  Your obviously grasping for straws with this thread.  It's over, until you post something it's over, plain and simple.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Nordic Superman on September 10, 2006, 05:41:03 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93180.0;attach=101173;image)

Compare left image to:

(http://www.avrev.com/gifs/roadtrip/roadtrip4.gif)

and:

(http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/3948_djqualls_thumb.jpg)

Those workouts with that big black chick have really improved your physique!
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 10, 2006, 07:31:27 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93180.0;attach=101173;image)

Compare left image to:

(http://www.avrev.com/gifs/roadtrip/roadtrip4.gif)

and:

(http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/3948_djqualls_thumb.jpg)

Those workouts with that big black chick have really improved your physique!

People take note of this gay man. He found the balls to post shit about his sexchapades on the internet and fantasizes about the great champions physique every day.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Nordic Superman on September 10, 2006, 09:20:46 AM
People take note of this gay man. He found the balls to post shit about his sexchapades on the internet and fantasizes about the great champions physique every day.

???
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 10, 2006, 10:15:11 AM
whatever  ::) ::) ::).  I already posted where to get info and pics, I posted some pics, I did everything I had to do. 

Nope you have posted 0 pics of natural DC trainees.  You have spent LOTS of time arguing that there are pics of them and even provided pics of Juiced DC trainers so why no Naturals?  Oh that's right all of the naturals look like skinny-fat Palumboism victims.  HHAHAHAHAH is that what you look like?  It must be hard to find clothes that fit your narrow shoulders and bulging gut.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 10, 2006, 12:02:10 PM
Nope you have posted 0 pics of natural DC trainees.  You have spent LOTS of time arguing that there are pics of them and even provided pics of Juiced DC trainers so why no Naturals?  Oh that's right all of the naturals look like skinny-fat Palumboism victims.  HHAHAHAHAH is that what you look like?  It must be hard to find clothes that fit your narrow shoulders and bulging gut.

no...you said dc trainers that are natural had polumboism and I said prove it.  I never claimed to have pics in my possession, they're on the net.  You made a claim and I called you on it and now you can't back it up.

I don't have one sign of polumboism, trust me, not even close.

It must be hard to be you....trying to fight a fight that you started and can't back up in the least bit, it must really suck to have backed yourself into a corner with no way out. You must really be a chump.  If you wanna say it doesn't work, that's fine.  I got no problem with that but you made a blanket statement and now you're grasping for straws trying to make me post pics to disproove your theory?  That's sad, I'm not posting shit, do it yourself loser. 

you got nothing, you are nothing and you got nothing to post......face it bro, maybe you have polumboism and you're venting your frustration here?  again, plain and simple put up or shut up.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: G.R.H. on September 10, 2006, 02:31:30 PM
being serious alexxx, u look more ripped/cut in the first pick of u, but u have more size in the 2nd. whatever u r doing, it looks pretty good!  8)
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 10, 2006, 03:40:24 PM
being serious alexxx, u look more ripped/cut in the first pick of u, but u have more size in the 2nd. whatever u r doing, it looks pretty good!  8)

Thanks man I am still learning and hoping to keep making progress.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 10, 2006, 06:40:51 PM
no...you said dc trainers that are natural had polumboism and I said prove it.  I never claimed to have pics in my possession, they're on the net.  You made a claim and I called you on it and now you can't back it up.

I don't have one sign of polumboism, trust me, not even close.

It must be hard to be you....trying to fight a fight that you started and can't back up in the least bit, it must really suck to have backed yourself into a corner with no way out. You must really be a chump.  If you wanna say it doesn't work, that's fine.  I got no problem with that but you made a blanket statement and now you're grasping for straws trying to make me post pics to disproove your theory?  That's sad, I'm not posting shit, do it yourself loser. 

you got nothing, you are nothing and you got nothing to post......face it bro, maybe you have polumboism and you're venting your frustration here?  again, plain and simple put up or shut up.

you still dont get it.

read earlier in the thread Adonis challenged you to post pics.  You refused and claimed that there was no need to provide picture proof of your point.  Then when I said something which you did not agree with you asked me to post pics.  Don't you realize that when you refused to provide proof you lost the right to request proof of others.  Its called a double standard, and people that try to enforce double standards are called hypocrits.

YOU ARE A HYPOCRIT.  I think that I have a disease, not palumbosim, I just can't help arguing with idiots.  Dealing with stupid people all the time is so upsetting.  I guess I should just be grateful that I'm not one of them, that would probably be even worse.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: yangmian on September 10, 2006, 09:51:39 PM
a couple more years and the olympia crown is yours.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 11, 2006, 04:31:26 AM
you still dont get it.

read earlier in the thread Adonis challenged you to post pics.  You refused and claimed that there was no need to provide picture proof of your point.  Then when I said something which you did not agree with you asked me to post pics.  Don't you realize that when you refused to provide proof you lost the right to request proof of others.  Its called a double standard, and people that try to enforce double standards are called hypocrits.

YOU ARE A HYPOCRIT.  I think that I have a disease, not palumbosim, I just can't help arguing with idiots.  Dealing with stupid people all the time is so upsetting.  I guess I should just be grateful that I'm not one of them, that would probably be even worse.


hold on a sec there asshole.  I didn't refuse to post pics I said that at this point in time I am not in shape to post pics and I gave a rundown on my reasons why.  I can do it again for you, they are legitimate, even TA dropped it after I made that post.  it's not because I'm lazey or anything there are legitimate reasons.  if you went through what I did for the last 2 years of your life you wouldn't even be working out.  If you read that thread you would not even be bringing that up or you're an idiot that has way to much time on his hands.

it's not my job to prove youre arguements, do it yourself.  Bottom line that post proves that your a total asshole, first class, you're nothing to me.  Even though I ca't stand TA at least he had the common sense to read what I said and dropped it and I have gotten a few pm's from people saying how they agree with me and offered thier condolences.  You pulled that out of your ass cause you have nothing else to offer plain and simple, I doubt you know a thing about dc training or maybe you don't even work out, you've proven nothing.  The only thing that this post that you made proves is that your out of ammo and can't stand it, it's like challenging a 1 legged man to a race, I've already said that my training has been comprimised for the last 2 years, gave reasons for it and they are legitimate, you have nothing, you are nothing, your arguements suck, your logic sucks, your posts in this thread are idiotic at best and you've done nothing to prove your point.  Since you won't post any pics what particular aspect of dc training do you think would cause your arms and legs to shrink while increasing your vascularity and causing your internal organs to swell?  I'd like to see you address this.....oh wait, you're gonna try to turn that around on me to disprove it but I'm not gonna do that.  If you'd like me to list why I think the program is a good one, I'll do it but otherwise you need to put up or shut up.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 11, 2006, 06:35:47 AM

hold on a sec there asshole.  I didn't refuse to post pics I said that at this point in time I am not in shape to post pics and I gave a rundown on my reasons why.  I can do it again for you, they are legitimate, even TA dropped it after I made that post.  it's not because I'm lazey or anything there are legitimate reasons.  if you went through what I did for the last 2 years of your life you wouldn't even be working out.  If you read that thread you would not even be bringing that up or you're an idiot that has way to much time on his hands.

You're making this way too hard.  POST pics of ANY Natural DC trainee that has gotten a good result from Dante's system, NOT your good results.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 11, 2006, 07:13:41 AM
You're making this way too hard.  POST pics of ANY Natural DC trainee that has gotten a good result from Dante's system, NOT your good results.

not my job to disprove your theory the ball's in your court.  If a scientist comes up with a theory he can't just say it and then say "ok, it's true until one of you guys disproves it"  That's not the way things work.  You claimed dc causes palumboism and I said prove it.  You have not and I don't think you can or you would have already.   I'm sure you didn't just say this and you were talking out of your ass were you?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: BigWhoop on September 11, 2006, 08:28:30 AM
That alexxx guy made alot of improvements from the first pic to the current one, nothing to be ashamed about.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 11, 2006, 10:00:05 AM
not my job to disprove your theory the ball's in your court.  If a scientist comes up with a theory he can't just say it and then say "ok, it's true until one of you guys disproves it"  That's not the way things work.  You claimed dc causes palumboism and I said prove it.  You have not and I don't think you can or you would have already.   I'm sure you didn't just say this and you were talking out of your ass were you?

MONSTER MEMORY SPAN

I'll repeat myself:

"you still dont get it.

read earlier in the thread Adonis challenged you to post pics.  You refused and claimed that there was no need to provide picture proof of your point.  Then when I said something which you did not agree with you asked me to post pics.  Don't you realize that when you refused to provide proof you lost the right to request proof of others.  Its called a double standard, and people that try to enforce double standards are called hypocrits."

Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 11, 2006, 11:05:16 AM
MONSTER MEMORY SPAN

I'll repeat myself:

"you still dont get it.

read earlier in the thread Adonis challenged you to post pics.  You refused and claimed that there was no need to provide picture proof of your point.  Then when I said something which you did not agree with you asked me to post pics.  Don't you realize that when you refused to provide proof you lost the right to request proof of others.  Its called a double standard, and people that try to enforce double standards are called hypocrits."



again, my reasons for not providing pics of myself were made clear, if you choose to think of me as a hypocrite that's fine.  I don't think anyone else would agree with you and even my arch nemisis in that thread dropped it once my reasons were revealed.  You're a sinking ship, you have no proof to back up your statement.  You're statment was "dc training causes natural guys to have polumboism" which I asked you to prove and you can't.  My pics shouldn't even be an issue, I don't understand why you keep beating it to death, it's obvious you have run out of ammo.....I'll make it easy on you, explain what part of the dc training program would give the results you described which were, if I understand polumboism are small arms and legs, a big guy and ugly vascularity.  It IS NOT my job to disprove your theory, you said something stupid and you didn't get away with it.  Now you keep saying it's my fault that you can't back up what you say..it's totally moronic.

You're not gonna get pics of me not matter what you say, I have not been able to train anywhere near 100% for over 2 years now, all my reasons are legitimate and your not going to goad me into posting something.  Do you think I sit on the net going "oh, my god that guy trains dc, I gotta save that pic"  I'd have to do the same thing you would if I wanted a pic and that's look on IM  which I told you to do.  You've an asshole for trying to shove the tragedies that I've had to endure over the last 2 years in my face to try to prove your point.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 11, 2006, 03:13:32 PM
again, my reasons for not providing pics of myself were made clear, if you choose to think of me as a hypocrite that's fine.  I don't think anyone else would agree with you and even my arch nemisis in that thread dropped it once my reasons were revealed.  You're a sinking ship, you have no proof to back up your statement.  You're statment was "dc training causes natural guys to have polumboism" which I asked you to prove and you can't.  My pics shouldn't even be an issue, I don't understand why you keep beating it to death, it's obvious you have run out of ammo.....I'll make it easy on you, explain what part of the dc training program would give the results you described which were, if I understand polumboism are small arms and legs, a big guy and ugly vascularity.  It IS NOT my job to disprove your theory, you said something stupid and you didn't get away with it.  Now you keep saying it's my fault that you can't back up what you say..it's totally moronic.

You're not gonna get pics of me not matter what you say, I have not been able to train anywhere near 100% for over 2 years now, all my reasons are legitimate and your not going to goad me into posting something.  Do you think I sit on the net going "oh, my god that guy trains dc, I gotta save that pic"  I'd have to do the same thing you would if I wanted a pic and that's look on IM  which I told you to do.  You've an asshole for trying to shove the tragedies that I've had to endure over the last 2 years in my face to try to prove your point.

I'll translate it into retard:

POST BEFORE AND AFTER PICS OF A NATURAL DC TRAINER THAT GOT GOOD RESULTS
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: The True Adonis on September 11, 2006, 04:07:52 PM
:)
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 12, 2006, 04:30:16 AM
I'll translate it into retard:

POST BEFORE AND AFTER PICS OF A NATURAL DC TRAINER THAT GOT GOOD RESULTS

no....you post pics of someone with polumboism first, I can do this for months at a time, it really doesn't matter to me.  I've now asked you a simple question at least 2 or 3 times.  What particular aspect of dc training gives a person polumboism?  You have not even tried to answer it.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 12, 2006, 07:58:25 AM
no....you post pics of someone with polumboism first, I can do this for months at a time, it really doesn't matter to me.  I've now asked you a simple question at least 2 or 3 times.  What particular aspect of dc training gives a person polumboism?  You have not even tried to answer it.

Sure I'll answer it.  They get huge guts from excessive caloric consumption which causes accumulation of IAF (intra abdominal fat).  AND they lose muscle on their arms and legs from lack of workout volume.

Now you were asked to produce pics first and you refused.  So until you remedy that I will not respect your request that I post them.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 12, 2006, 09:41:43 AM
Sure I'll answer it.  They get huge guts from excessive caloric consumption which causes accumulation of IAF (intra abdominal fat).  AND they lose muscle on their arms and legs from lack of workout volume.

Now you were asked to produce pics first and you refused.  So until you remedy that I will not respect your request that I post them.

where are most of the calories from?  protien, what kind of thermogenic factor does protien have, very high, so you are actually burning calories as they digest at a higher rate than you would by eating carbs or fats, plus since you're supposed to eat protien first and then either fats or carbs your overall caloric intake is not all that high.  So if you took this to the extreme and weighed 150lbs you would be eating at 2g of protien per pound 300grams of protien, which is not applicable for all trainees but lets assume for this arguement that we are dealing with a pure ectomorph.  He's essentially only taking in 1200 calories form protien (300*4=1200), now surely since he's loading up on protein he's not going to be able to consume as many grams of carbs or fats as usual so it's not out of the question that this individual could keep his caloric intake at about 2000-2500 a day.

You're arguement for small arms and legs holds no water either, there are numerous studies done as far back as when arthur jones was featured in ironman that once a muscle hits a certain point any other stress on that muscle is useless.  I assume you know the DC routine, but then again I could be wrong.  So lets look at Bi's for example, on the usual 3 day split you work back on mondays and fridays...and what is the secondary muscle involved in 90% of back movements? Bi's.  You then directly hit them on Wedsday, so your in essence training them or stressing them 3 times a week...so essentially the number of times you train them is directly or indirectly is actually more than you would on a normal routine, you're just not over working them like you would in a traditional routine. 

again you fail to see the comedy in your own logic, you said it produces polumboism but you can't prove a thing, nothing, you've got nothing.  You've proven nothing.  There are tons of people using this routine and doing well with it, maybe it's too hard for you to actually lift heavy weights and bust your ass and you get bent out of shape when someone is stronger than you...I don't know but I still don't think it's my job to disprove your theory.   A scientist can't just say "hey I think the earth is actually square and eveyone accept it as fact until someone disproves it, he has to have proof to back up his statement and you have none.  This is actually getting boring dealing with you.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on September 12, 2006, 09:56:54 AM
    Natural Al there is nothing to prove here. Adonis (and his many board names) has repeatedly gotten it thrown down his throat over the last week. He asked for a natural trainee--i showed him a natural pro card winner and he still is arguing--LOL. He changes the argument slightly every time i make him eat dirt.  He is done in my book ever since he doctored up that lab assay the other day and was shown that he is a farce. Heck if your going to change the wording around in a Lab abstract to prove your point, isnt that proof enough that you hold ABSOLUTELY no credibility at all? Thats it, your done, and everyone read it and saw it.
    It wont matter what you put up or argue with him Natural Al, do you really think he is going to come back and say "oh ok Natural Al you have proved me wrong, I stand corrected, you were right".....no he is not, he will argue to the day is long because the bottom line is he cant stand that I rejected his ass openly on mayhem and yet took on alot of other guys as trainees around him. He has never gotten over it.
    Have you ever seen me mention True Adonis anywhere on Intensemuscle? Never because he is never on my mind, except when I come over here and see him ranting and raving. That Im included in every other post of his is proof enough that the guy seriously got his ego hurt. Sorry bro better luck next time. How many multiples of people have to call you an idiot all over the place until it finally sinks in that "yea your an idiot"-lol
    Ive trained alot of bodybuilders.....does anyone ever show before pics? Noone likes to put up pics of themselves that show them at a lesser version of what they are. You dont think Adonis wishes he could take back those singlet pics of his years ago? I rarely get before pics--I get guys who tell me what they want to accomplish and I set out to do it and you see the pics of when they accomplished it. Take a look at any of my longtime trainees...were they winning the jr nationals, or shows, or natural pro cards or muscletech contracts before me? Wherein that is your answer. Forget arguing with this fool Al--he is beneath you.....he will argue all day long that the sky is red if you say its blue.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 12, 2006, 10:08:30 AM
the funny thing is I've never heard someone make a statement and then have to have other people disprove it in order to justify it....it's a joke.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 12, 2006, 12:03:18 PM
the funny thing is I've never heard someone make a statement and then have to have other people disprove it in order to justify it....it's a joke.

ha haha you're right it's hillarious.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 12, 2006, 12:13:15 PM
you two need to shut the fuck up
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 12, 2006, 12:18:23 PM
you two need to shut the f**k up

your right all this posting is interferring with my nutrition, it's been 15 minutes since my last meal and I can feel myself slipping into a catabolic state.


must


take


True Protein


NOW
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: BigWhoop on September 12, 2006, 01:11:14 PM
:)
Is that true ? Then I wouldnt want to do Doggcrapp then .
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 12, 2006, 02:32:27 PM
your right all this posting is interferring with my nutrition, it's been 15 minutes since my last meal and I can feel myself slipping into a catabolic state.


must


take


True Protein


NOW
;D
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 02:38:26 PM
dude small as hell. 3 fuckin years for that...kill yourself. alexxx
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 12, 2006, 02:40:26 PM
dude small as hell. 3 fuckin years for that...kill yourself. alexxx

haha you're TA's gimmic account.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 02:58:19 PM
No im a big black man. TA is a big white dude...u are a small white dude. I didnt even read the previous posts by other members. For real. you are a fuckin small. take something, eat, ease up on the cardio...u look like you might have done a few pushups.... im not ronnie coleman. And everyone has their starting point so i dont usually down peoples physique, but u shouldnt have tried to start in on me with your small ass. you arms are what...15's at max.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: natural al on September 12, 2006, 03:39:11 PM
ha haha you're right it's hillarious.

glad you finally agree, about time you admitted how stupid you're sounding ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 12, 2006, 06:55:45 PM
No im a big black man. TA is a big white dude...u are a small white dude. I didnt even read the previous posts by other members. For real. you are a fuckin small. take something, eat, ease up on the cardio...u look like you might have done a few pushups.... im not ronnie coleman. And everyone has their starting point so i dont usually down peoples physique, but u shouldnt have tried to start in on me with your small ass. you arms are what...15's at max.

You are irrelevant. I already surpassed you shape wise and size on legs and arms. Tell me, why do you skip leg sessions?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 13, 2006, 06:47:39 AM
ok little f**k. how about my legs are the strongest part of my body. and your arms are 15's at max.   19inches bitch. Hold on...Look at my picture with Gustavo.....compare yourself....shut your small ass up. Skinny bitch
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 13, 2006, 06:54:29 AM
I am thinking which method is going to produce the best results for me.

Here is another shot. I still have to lose 3 inches of my waist if I plan to compete.


Compete in what fool. I swear you need glasses. You cant compete in the mr somalia contest in the novice division. Im 23 and i was your size when i was 14. SWEAR TO GOD. You have no more development than a kid in middle school.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: alexxx on September 13, 2006, 07:28:20 AM
haha you're a homo. Keep your shorts on and have gay sex with Gustavo.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 13, 2006, 07:30:33 AM
um....ok if thats your best reply.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 13, 2006, 08:25:33 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=86431.0;attach=93439;image)

There you go.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 13, 2006, 08:27:46 AM
LMAO....You look a like a back street/nsync reject.....are u shittin me alexxis...Who stole your chest? Did you find the guy. If you do ask him get your delts back too.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 13, 2006, 09:03:02 AM
ok for real im done alexxx. this back and forth shit is dumb. just got hot when u called me a retard...anyway. You got some strong points but overall have a cool physique. good luck training....


















Trying to be the bigger man.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: BigWhoop on September 13, 2006, 10:32:51 AM
Big Mal welcome to Getbig, you show some good 'before' pics.... maybe after your first few months in a gym we can all have an update on your progress.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Option D on September 13, 2006, 10:34:45 AM
lol ok. u mind posting pics. all this talk means nothin without pics to back it up.
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: dizzleman06 on September 15, 2006, 12:13:30 PM
why would you post before and after pics without any progress...why i tell you?
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: Farkenell on November 02, 2006, 04:42:16 AM
You should concentrate on putting on more size. Lee Priest is your weight and he is quadruple your size and half your height. I have friends that compete at 180lbs and they are bigger and far more ripped. If that is honestly your photos I would seriously stop bragging on this site and start traing hardcore promptly.

PB

2nd that
Title: Re: MY BEFORE AND AFTER PICS!
Post by: WOOO on November 02, 2006, 06:03:21 PM
monster tricep