I see a lot of people saying Lee could have come back for a ninth win in 1992.

Maybe, but I disagree with their reasoning.  They say shit like, "Oh, Haney would have come in even bigger" and the like.

That makes no sense to me.  Lee tried competing in the high 250s in 88 or 89, and he was criticized for losing definition.

Dorian beat Lee in the muscularity round in 91.  So, Haney was magically going to get back to well over 250 and get way more cut to win in 92, after many years of coming in with roughly the same form?

Doz added maybe five pounds of stage weight for 92, but he was arguably leaner than before, and lost muscle to achieve that condition.  He knew no top guy could match his size (242ish?), but he also wanted to be sure he was shredded beyond even the likes of smaller guys like Levrone, Ray, Taylor and Labrada.  Had he known Haney was coming back, he could have retained roughly comparable condition but not dieted off the mass needed to match Lee at 248-250.

Thoughts, apart from how I'm a thong-sniffing schmoe?   (I'm really not, apart from Tuesday evenings.  That's when I set up my shrine to Ken Sprague and that big, tattooed guy who recently died, Chris Duffy.  At least, I think he died?)

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he also had his own room
Shawn spoke about in in an interview

You really think Weinberg didnt have sway over the judges back then?

Do you thi9nk the story is true about him ripping up the judging sheets?

And climb out of Dorians arse and wipe the shit off your glasses before you answer.

Shawn says a lot , doesn't mean it's true. Shawn said he never attacked Dorian personally he did, Shawn said he quit the sport because he realized they were just choosing mass monsters for the sake of size and him being light he never stood a chance, while he routinely beat Fux , Nasser, Dillett , etc , Shawn is good at marketing himself , Shawn is full of shit. Classic  the judges got it wrong when he loses but they're spot on when he wins.  Can't have it both ways

You really think Weinberg didnt have sway over the judges back then?

No , If you have proof to the contrary I'll listen

Do you thi9nk the story is true about him ripping up the judging sheets?

I do think it's possible , I don't know definitively so can't say with certainty it's true. Just because that may have happened you're implying he fixed his boy's Dorian's contests which is silly.

Since the Maloof Brothers opened it in 1997, there have been a number of owners.  Palms Hotel was closed during COVID (March 2020), and in 2021, Red Rock sold the resort for $650 million to the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians, which reopened it on April 27, 2022.  I think that as the hotel hotel, they can get what they need here for the press conference, athlete and staff meetings, and much more cooperation to get what is needed to make the Olympia even better.

Facilities:  The Las Vegas Palms Casino Resort has 703 rooms and suites distributed over two easily identifiable buildings, As expected, Palms Resort Vegas has a casino with all of the classic games, but in a more comfortable, less overpowering setting than the Strip’s bigger venues. The property has two pools: Palms Pool with 39 cabanas and Laguna Pool, Palms Place, which features a dramatic wrap-around pool, jacuzzi, and plush lounges. The Spa & Salon caters to all your self-care needs. You can experience 15 various treatments, work out at the fitness facility, or meditate in the yoga studio, all of which are accessible across the three levels (17,000 square feet). Brenden Theatres and Pearl Theatre feature various events, including concerts by the Isley Brothers and film screenings. Ghostbar on the 55th floor is the place to go for panoramic vistas of Las Vegas, even if you’re a non-drinker like myself.

Now, where will the venue be that actually hosts the main contest?  Rumor is that they will have in at the Orleans Arena, which is less than a mile away from Palms, which can host over 7,000 people. It used to be there for quite a number of years.

Why is the expo and the actual pageant not at the same place?