I was going to try Tianpeptine a few years ago, it was available in Portland.  But the more I read about it it kind of scared me away. People were saying the effects didn't last long, like 20 mins or half hour, and you built up a tolerance so quick. People were saying this made it easy to get addicted to and withdrawals were like heroin. So I never did try it. I don't know if it is still available or not.

Kratom can be addictive and if you're going over 5 to 10 grams a day it's going to be uncomfortable comming off but it only lasts a week or so. If you're up to 20 or 30 grams a day or more its really going to suck. Its cheap and easily available so people do develop a habit.

7-OH is supposedly much more potent.  When it first hit the market I was given free samples of it and I didn't notice much difference but people kept telling me how much stronger and more addictive and stronger it is. So I have avoided it completely.

With regular kratom it doesn't take more than 4 grams to get a good pre workout lift and pain killing effect.  If you only use it on work out days, or heavy days like leg days and take a break every couple of days, you should be just fine with no withdrawals.

Last round I did of Kratom before it was banned here I had bought 600 grams and took it quickly, 3 x 12 grams a day or so I think. It was a few days of heightened anxiety when I ran out but no big deal. Keep it up for a long period of time and I believe it will indeed suck balls.
AI says 7-OH or mitragynine is a more potent pain killer than morphine. Kratom is another product which had zero effect on Bhanks, I think he said he went through massive amounts of it to no effect, no itching!

Tianeptine was really interesting. I think I bought 10 grams. I noticed the opiate effect at 100-120mg per dose. I didn't want to take more as it felt like it was getting somewhat uncomfortable with a thick headed feeling at 120mg. I've read that some ramped it up to like 5 grams a day and even injecting IIRC. It's a French antidepressant medication at like 12mg a few times a day and years ago there was no mention of any opiate receptor agonism, just said it was a tricyclic antidepressant and it was sold by some early life extension websites as an alternative to the more common ADs. Some of the more common SNRIs like venlafaxine have also shown very mild opiate receptor agonism. It's notable that it's still not completely clear how these medications work and this mechanism might be part of the antidepressant effect. I wish it was still available. One big early nootropics vendor has said he got a lot of customers saying it saved their life but then it started to be abused and the FEDs kicked down his door.

ALGAE!!!

 

did the grapefruit make him blast?

Hard-on/cum inquiry?