I agree with everything Hegseth is quoted on here. Europe depends far more on oil passing through the Strait than the US, so you’d think they’d be eager to help get it flowing again.

So if they aren't stepping up, is it because they’re weak? Or is something else going on?

I think they understand that Iran isn’t nearly the threat that the US and Israel make it out to be. They probably also see that the costs, both financial and military, aren’t worth it.

Eventually one side will either win or withdraw. Then oil will start moving again. In the meantime, I think they are content to sit back and let others waste their money and manpower on the conflict. I don’t blame them. I wish we had never gotten involved there in the first place.

Or maybe they're just weak. That could be true too 

Absolutely. Plus they're busy fighting to show their people that the muzzies aren't destroying their country.

Oh ok so they weren't trying to put him in jail for life like you said, just the appropriate time for his crimes. It sounded like you were being hyperbolic.

I guess if someone does something at that age you shouldn't charge them because it might be "for life". I get why you used the words you used, it clearly wasn't for effect at all.

If his life expectancy is (for example) about 20 years, but he literally faces hundreds of years of potential prison time, of course they are trying to imprison him for life.

No, you don’t refrain from charging or prosecuting someone solely because they might get life.  But this something a simpleton would say. 

Yikes. Meltdown. Keep trying (badly) to convince yourself how smart you are.

Right?  Very entertaining though.   

Jesus, you want to do this again? lolololol.

you have a fetish for embarrassment or something?

What do you hope to achieve here? What do you think what you quoted means in this context? I know what you think it means but let me hear you spell it out, genius. I bet room temperature IQ kamala could understand the context better.


Ya man, just some random germans there hasn't been decades of research or anything

"Intelligence has been found to be associated with a range of political beliefs including liberalism (Carl, 2014), anti-racism (Deary et al., 2008), support for the EU and NATO (Oskarsson et al., 2014), free speech (De keersmaecker et al., 2021), tolerance (Lasker & McNaughton, 2022) and anti-authoritarianism (Choma & Hanoch, 2017).

Two meta-analyses of this literature have been performed. Onraet et al.’s (2015) meta-analysis found intelligence to be negatively correlated with right-wing ideological attitudes (𝑟=−.20). However, the correlation depended on the type of right-wing attitude measured, with higher correlations with authoritarianism (𝑟=−.30) and ethnocentrism (𝑟=−.28) compared to conservatism (𝑟=−.13). Jedinger and Burger (2022) found a very small but significant correlation between intelligence and fiscally conservative beliefs (𝑟=.07). Overall, intelligence has been found to be associated with beliefs that can be described as socially liberal and possibly also fiscally conservative.

To put these effect sizes into context, in the American National Election Study (Gaziano, 2014), it has been estimated that education has an effect of 𝛽=−0.139 and income has an effect of 𝛽=0.124 on right-wing ideology, after controlling for age, race, and gender. Intelligence has a correlation with political belief that is comparable if not greater than the correlations between belief and measures of SES commonly studied by political scientists.

Although IQ is known to be associated with political belief, it is not known why this is the case. The relationship between intelligence and political belief could be confounded or mediated by socioeconomic factors and environmental factors more broadly. In this study, we employ polygenic scores, within-family designs and controls to causally identify the direct effect of cognitive ability on political beliefs.

We might believe intelligence directly changes political beliefs. Political beliefs likely reflect our ethical values and our empirical beliefs, both of which might be altered by intelligence. Intelligence is related to greater general knowledge (Furnham & Chamorro-Premuzic, 2006), knowledge of economics (Caplan & Miller, 2010) and financial literacy (Lin & Bates, 2022). Moreover, intelligence may be related to subjective values, as it shows correlations with patience (Shamosh & Gray, 2008), openness (Anglim et al., 2022), “emotional intelligence” (MacCann et al., 2014) and moral judgement in the Defining Issues Test (Derryberry et al., 2007). Onraet et al. (2015) suggested that the use of stereotypes and socially conservative beliefs function as heuristics, utilizing fewer cognitive resources than thinking about social issues on a case-by-case base. This could cause lower cognitive ability to be associated with right-wing views."


This thread has been way more fruitful then anticipated. For a shitty troll I have you making a fool of yourself and high fiving your buddy out of desperation lol.

I'll make another thread about the dark triad and conservatism as well. As the weeks unfold you can get a better picture of the type of person you are and how others perceive you. Nothing hits like cold hard facts.

Yikes. Meltdown. Keep trying (badly) to convince yourself how smart you are.

You wash your gym clothes? Well, la dee da, Mr. Clean

Always, Bone, always.