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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2007, 07:54:05 AM »
What do u call a nation that has universal health care, universal education, they even have universal dental, which even Canada doesn't have.  All of these social programs, in my opinion, makes the UK more of a socialist country as oppose to a capitalist one.

We now have to pay university tuition fees, and NHS dentists are virtually nonexistent.

New Labour are as capitalist as they come.

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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2007, 09:05:53 AM »
What do u call a nation that has universal health care, universal education, they even have universal dental, which even Canada doesn't have.  All of these social programs, in my opinion, makes the UK more of a socialist country as oppose to a capitalist one.

Nothing of the things that you listed would make UK a socialist nation.

So I ask again, how is UK socialist?

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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2007, 07:43:13 AM »
Ok, if you won't consider my point of view, then you tell me what's a true capitalist country, cause within a capitalist country, you don't pay taxes, u pay for what you use. So, again, my argument is that the U.K is more of a sociolist country as oppose to a capitalist one.

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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2007, 08:47:04 AM »
Ok, if you won't consider my point of view, then you tell me what's a true capitalist country, cause within a capitalist country, you don't pay taxes, u pay for what you use. So, again, my argument is that the U.K is more of a sociolist country as oppose to a capitalist one.

You are incorrect. You pay taxes in capitalist countries.

You still haven't pointed out one single area where UK is socialist.

Let me re-iterate: UK have a free market, they have freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of enterprise.

But most importantly: UK have a multi-party system.

Let me ask you this: Do you know what socialism is?

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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2007, 02:14:37 PM »
You are incorrect. You pay taxes in capitalist countries.

You still haven't pointed out one single area where UK is socialist.

Let me re-iterate: UK have a free market, they have freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of enterprise.

But most importantly: UK have a multi-party system.

Let me ask you this: Do you know what socialism is?

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Yes, even though the UK has all those capitalist attributes, it still has alot of social programs, like government subsidies,  free health care, and laxed immigration laws thats allowing everyone to enter the country. And for this reason, is why UK is not a total capitalist state, and contains alot of socialism.

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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2007, 09:03:30 AM »
Yes, even though the UK has all those capitalist attributes, it still has alot of social programs, like government subsidies,  free health care, and laxed immigration laws thats allowing everyone to enter the country. And for this reason, is why UK is not a total capitalist state, and contains alot of socialism.

Relaxed immigration laws have nothing to do with a socialist state.

Traditionally, Soviet Union and other countries behind the Iron Curtain, guarded their boarders like hounds.

On contrary, open borders are a true sign of capitalism, merchantilism and traditional free trading. Restricting immigration restricts the flow of labor, which is directly against ANY capitalistic principle.

But you happen to be wrong as far as UK immigration laws too. UK don't allow anyone to enter their country, that rule is only for fellow European Union citizens, eg I can go and live in UK whenever I want.

BTW, their health care isn't free. It's subsidized.

You're right about one thing though...

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That UK is not a socialist country.

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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2007, 02:11:27 PM »
Maybe their not letting anyone in now, but how do u think they became one of the most multicultural countries.  I think your missing my point altogether. 

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Re: Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2007, 12:37:15 AM »
What do u call a nation that has universal health care, universal education, they even have universal dental, which even Canada doesn't have.  All of these social programs, in my opinion, makes the UK more of a socialist country as oppose to a capitalist one.

A nation that invests in itself.   8)

I can't believe you have a problem with a nation that educates it's citizens.  They ARE the wealth of a nation ya know. Any nation that doesn't invest in it's own wealth... well, ...I guess they just have to steal it from others that do.  8)
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