Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims - in the UK

[Nordic Superman]

Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

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Said it before and I'll say it again, the UK is a lost cause and I wouldn't shed a tear over a muslim holocaust in Britain.

[Hedgehog]

Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

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Said it before and I'll say it again, the UK is a lost cause and I wouldn't shed a tear over a muslim holocaust in Britain.

I like to see the source of this "governmentbacked study" before I believe it.

-Hedge

[Nordic Superman]

I like to see the source of this "governmentbacked study" before I believe it.

-Hedge

I don't have the government source, but I did forget to link you:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770

[Hedgehog]

I don't have the government source, but I did forget to link you:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770

That's plenty.

I thought it was perhaps some obscure website, but the Mail is credible IMO.

Thanks for the link.

And yeah, I agree. It's a fcuking disaster if the education is compromise due to some culture-hugging teachers. Horrible.

Good to see that this makes the news, and also great to see that the government is looking into it.

I haven't given up on our society. You shouldn't either.

I think our politicians needs to visit the slum areas where the radical islamist immigrants lives, where the minority is a majority, refuses to learn English or Swedish or Danish, or whatever the language is.

Then they will understand the problem, and also will find ways to deal with the problem, avoiding extremist parties getting votes.

We don't need populist parties. They're a disgrace. They don't have skilled politicans. But they're the only politicians who are willing to offer an alternative to the current situation.

Even if that alternative is racist.

-Hedge

[Nordic Superman]

Good to see that this makes the news, and also great to see that the government is looking into it.

The way I see it, it's 100% the governments fault.

I don't know about Sweden, but here in Manchester, and all over the north west of England muslim "ghettos" have arose (can't be disputed). In certain places like bradford, oldham, parts of Huddersfield and other towns in yorkshire and London classrooms have become majority muslim, in some case probably 100% muslim student populace.

These schools are still moderated by the government and have majority non-muslim teachers. This creates a very tense environment where the non-muslim teacher MUST appease the muslim students, this means laying off topics like the holocaust. Think about it, it's only logical, and lets face it, these kids have a muslim background with a more animalistic approach and primitive social norms.

I myself had some paki mates in high school which were antisemitic. I'd say the populace of muslims was 25% - this percentage has surely rose.

100% the governments fault, it's just that the schools have been put in a situation they never wanted and have no choice about.

[Cavalier22]

Wow...

[Thin Lizzy]

Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

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Said it before and I'll say it again, the UK is a lost cause and I wouldn't shed a tear over a muslim holocaust in Britain.

You have to wonder how much the English people are gonna take.

15 of their sailors get abducted. Then, Iranians in England have the balls protest the English reaction (or non-reaction).

[militarymuscle69]

Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed.

It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.

There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.

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Said it before and I'll say it again, the UK is a lost cause and I wouldn't shed a tear over a muslim holocaust in Britain.

you guys are crazy if you don't see this happening here in the next few years.

[amc1980]

I myself had some paki mates in high school which were antisemitic. I'd say the populace of muslims was 25% - this percentage has surely rose.

Nordic, did you grow up on one of those godforsaken, northern sink-estates that they show on "gritty" television dramas?

[Nordic Superman]

Nordic, did you grow up on one of those godforsaken, northern sink-estates that they show on "gritty" television dramas?

Well I grew up on a decent area, but it only takes a 5 min drive and you can be in a muzzie ghetto.

You have to wonder how much the English people are gonna take.

15 of their sailors get abducted. Then, Iranians in England have the balls protest the English reaction (or non-reaction).

We're going to take it until the place is run by muslims, it's that simple.

[Thin Lizzy]

Well I grew up on a decent area, but it only takes a 5 min drive and you can be in a muzzie ghetto.

We're going to take it until the place is run by muslims, it's that simple.

What was root cause of this? Immigration I assume.

[Nordic Superman]

What was root cause of this? Immigration I assume.

Immigration and the EU politically correctness.

Any immigration policy that allows ghettos to form e.g. muzzie in Europe, black/espanic in the US is a fucking joke.

Too late to rectify the problem in the UK tho, put a fork in us, we're done.

[amc1980]

Well I grew up on a decent area, but it only takes a 5 min drive and you can be in a muzzie ghetto.

Watched a documenter about a murder in Wythenshaw the other night...seems a charming place.

Immigration and the EU politically correctness.

Any immigration policy that allows ghettos to form e.g. muzzie in Europe, black/espanic in the US is a fucking joke.

Lack of integration is definitely the main problem. I always used to think that the Government was the mainly at fault for this, but I am now starting to notice a definite unwillingness to intergrate by certain communities.

[Nordic Superman]

Lack of integration is definitely the main problem. I always used to think that the Government was the mainly at fault for this, but I am now starting to notice a definite unwillingness to intergrate by certain communities.

You're joking?!?! This is new to me!

[amc1980]

You're joking?!?! This is new to me!

Yeah, I've got my finger on the pulse me.

After suffering the annual "Islam Awareness Week" at uni I'm definitely starting to come round to a different way of thinking!

[Nordic Superman]

Yeah, I've got my finger on the pulse me.

After suffering the annual "Islam Awareness Week" at uni I'm definitely starting to come round to a different way of thinking!

What did they make you aware of?

[amc1980]

That they are the "religion of peace", of course!


The gist of it was:

Muslims=Fun-loving, women emancipating, all round good eggs.

Westerners=Imperialist, misogynistic scum.

[Nordic Superman]

That they are the "religion of peace", of course!


The gist of it was:

Muslims=Fun-loving, women emancipating, all round good eggs.

Westerners=Imperialist, misogynistic scum.

Are you shitting me? They actually had an anti-western rhetoric?

[amc1980]

Well, I'm exaggerating slightly, but Islam Awareness Week was not the most balanced of affairs. It was generally lots of events about how great Islam is, as well as lectures on the usual antiwar/bush/Blair topics.

And they wonder why the uni was in the top 5 for radical Islamic activity (the only thing they are in the top 5 for, mind).

[Hedgehog]

Well, I'm exaggerating slightly, but Islam Awareness Week was not the most balanced of affairs. It was generally lots of events about how great Islam is, as well as lectures on the usual antiwar/bush/Blair topics.

And they wonder why the uni was in the top 5 for radical Islamic activity (the only thing they are in the top 5 for, mind).

No need to exaggrate. That is dangerous. It will give the Islamists the cop-out of claiming that those of us who oppose Islam are liars, hate-mongerers and racists.

And there is no need, either. The truth is terrible as it is.

Look at Toxy. He's in disbelief of the Muslim culture in Britain reported on CNN. He claims it's "not Islam".

Well, it's the Islam we see, all over Europe.

I have no ill will towards these people.

But I cannot tolerate the part of their culture which is anti-feminist and medieval.

Of course it is medival BTW. The Quran was written 1500 years ago.

Praying to Mecca and pilgrimage and those things? I couldn't care less. If someone chooses to do that, it's up to him/her.

But whenever Islam interfers with modern laws and equality, I am the biggest opponent.


-Hedge

[Nordic Superman]

But I cannot tolerate the part of their culture which is anti-feminist and medieval.

Of course it is medival BTW. The Quran was written 1500 years ago.

Praying to Mecca and pilgrimage and those things? I couldn't care less. If someone chooses to do that, it's up to him/her.

But whenever Islam interfers with modern laws and equality, I am the biggest opponent.

-Hedge

Yes, but maybe you're wrong? The koran is a direct and perfect copy of the "mother of books". It was perfectly received by muhammad via the angel Gabriel.

The koran is infallible, and thus uninterpretable. Every line is definitive and pure perfection -a model for personal life and government.

If god says women are 1/4 of a mans value in court then so be it. If god makes a prophet out of a child molester and murder then so be it, for muhammad is the greatest template you can possibly get for life, he is an example for us all.

Jews and other nonbelievers must be killed until no one is prayed to but allah. Who can't see the benefit of having multiple wives and slave girls?

So, are you saying you know better than god himself Hedge?

[Camel Jockey]

Islam sucks. Political correctness sucks.

Look at Toxy. He's in disbelief of the Muslim culture in Britain reported on CNN. He claims it's "not Islam".

Well, it's the Islam we see, all over Europe.

I have no ill will towards these people.

But I cannot tolerate the part of their culture which is anti-feminist and medieval

That report hit home for Toxic, but he's still indenial. He claims he lives his life according to "good muslim values" and that him and his parents are not like the people on that CNN special. Of course they're not because maybe they're not following the Koran properly, while the people destroying England probably are.

[militarymuscle69]

Islam sucks. Political correctness sucks.

That report hit home for Toxic, but he's still indenial. He claims he lives his life according to "good muslim values" and that him and his parents are not like the people on that CNN special. Of course they're not because maybe they're not following the Koran properly, while the people destroying England probably are.

I don't know much about the Koran but I heard about it teaches to kill all non believers (please correct me on any of this). So in reality, in order to be a "good" muslim in Allah's eyes you would be killing. The "bad" muslims are the ones that don't kill.

[Camel Jockey]

I don't know much about the Koran but I heard about it teaches to kill all non believers (please correct me on any of this). So in reality, in order to be a "good" muslim in Allah's eyes you would be killing. The "bad" muslims are the ones that don't kill.

I don't know. I guess what I was trying to say is similar to what you just said, in that the good followers are the one's that are extreme, while the one's that don't really care but call themselves muslims are the bad followers.

[militarymuscle69]

I don't know. I guess what I was trying to say is similar to what you just said, in that the good followers are the one's that are extreme, while the one's that don't really care but call themselves muslims are the bad followers.

I mean are we right about that? good christians are the ones that do what god commands, wouldn't good Muslims be the ones that do what Allah commands?