Biden: 'No coal plants here in America'

[OzmO]

"Under my plan electric rates will necessarily skyrocket, they will pass along those costs to consumers". 

Geez,  it took you all day.   

Still he never promised to bankrupt the coal industry in or out of context. 

[Soul Crusher]

Geez,  it took you all day.   

Still he never promised to bankrupt the coal industry in or out of context. 

That wasn't the coal quote. 

[OzmO]

That wasn't the coal quote. 

So why did you bring  it up?   

HAHAHA

[George Whorewell]

So let me understand our esteemed moderators braindead point of view-- Anyone who invested in coal and coal workers are just plain out of luck-- they should move on to other things; possibly unemployment and bankruptcy. The energy source for 40% of the world is going to be "phased out" in 25 years time. The 27 states in this country that produce coal and depend on coal as an important part of their economy should just grin and bear it.

Let's go further-- The fact that the United States produces 20% of the world's coal supply (second only to China)= Not important

The fact that the coal preserves in THE UNITED STATES ALONE contain more energy than the world's oil reserves combined= Not important

The fact that at current consumption rates, there is enough coal in this country to provide energy for 250+ years= Irrelevant

And so-- your brilliant plan is to switch to Nuclear power; An industry so heavily regulated, stigmatized and demonized by the leftist establishment that it takes on average 25 years to build a single plant ( excluding the multitude of lawsuits, protests and congressional hearings).

I never said you were an idiot. I just said your point of view was braindead. It's not the same thing!

[Soul Crusher]

The best part is that Team Obama and the morons still supporting him wonder why busnesses, investors, et al are sitting on the sidelines and refuse to hire anyone and expand! 

[OzmO]

So let me understand our esteemed moderators braindead point of view-- Anyone who invested in coal and coal workers are just plain out of luck-- they should move on to other things; possibly unemployment and bankruptcy. The energy source for 40% of the world is going to be "phased out" in 25 years time. The 27 states in this country that produce coal and depend on coal as an important part of their economy should just grin and bear it.

Let's go further-- The fact that the United States produces 20% of the world's coal supply (second only to China)= Not important

The fact that the coal preserves in THE UNITED STATES ALONE contain more energy than the world's oil reserves combined= Not important

The fact that at current consumption rates, there is enough coal in this country to provide energy for 250+ years= Irrelevant

And so-- your brilliant plan is to switch to Nuclear power; An industry so heavily regulated, stigmatized and demonized by the leftist establishment that it takes on average 25 years to build a single plant ( excluding the multitude of lawsuits, protests and congressional hearings).

I never said you were an idiot. I just said your point of view was braindead. It's not the same thing!

No George, even through all your stupid sarcasm (which is about 90% of what you post along with insults) you don't understand my point of view.     Which is par for the course for you because your main point of posting seems to be insulting anyone who doesn't exactly agree with you.  What an asshole. 

There some 600 coal power plants in the USA.  Coal needs to be phased out PERIOD.   Not right this second, not in the next year, but in the next 20-30 years.  And as we have ridiculous restrictions on building new nuclear power plants those need to end right now.  Nuclear energy is far better, safer and cleaner. 

And sure lets sell coal to who ever buys its.

[Soul Crusher]

No George, even through all your stupid sarcasm (which is about 90% of what you post along with insults) you don't understand my point of view.     Which is par for the course for you because your main point of posting seems to be insulting anyone who doesn't exactly agree with you.  What an asshole. 

There some 600 coal power plants in the USA.  Coal needs to be phased out PERIOD.   Not right this second, not in the next year, but in the next 20-30 years.  And as we have ridiculous restrictions on building new nuclear power plants those need to end right now.  Nuclear energy is far better, safer and cleaner. 

And sure lets sell coal to who ever buys its.

so - in th meantime while we are building no new nuke plants we shut down the coals plants?  Fucking brilliant as Obama wants people more reliant on electric cars.  fucking brilliant.  Only a communist agitator and traitorous marxist sleeper cell terrorist like Obamacould cme up with something so brilliant.   

[OzmO]

so - in th meantime while we are building no new nuke plants we shut down the coals plants?  Fucking brilliant as Obama wants people more reliant on electric cars.  fucking brilliant.  Only a communist agitator and traitorous marxist sleeper cell terrorist like Obamacould cme up with something so brilliant.   

Blah blah blah

And Obama is going to make the USA a communist country too right?

 

[Soul Crusher]

Blah blah blah

And Obama is going to make the USA a communist country too right?

 

Yes.  He is intentionally destroying the nation and collapsing the economy day by day.   too bad you and the other whack jobs in Cali are too blind to see it.   

[OzmO]

Yes.  He is intentionally destroying the nation and collapsing the economy day by day.   too bad you and the other whack jobs in Cali are too blind to see it.   

Yeah yeah yeah,

And he's a sleeper cell, CIA operative, born in Kenya who's going to turn the USA in to a communist country.

 

[Soul Crusher]

Yeah yeah yeah,

And he's a sleeper cell, CIA operative, born in Kenya who's going to turn the USA in to a communist country.

 

Not a CIA operative, just a marxist communist traitor YOU VOTED FOR who is making it his lies work to collapse the nation under crippling debt, mandates, regulations, etc.   

[OzmO]

Not a CIA operative, just a marxist communist traitor YOU VOTED FOR who is making it his lies work to collapse the nation under crippling debt, mandates, regulations, etc.   

Again, for the 22nd time, I didn't vote for him.

That's all you ever do every time you are called out.

You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him! 


give it a rest already.   

We should be fully communist by 2015 right?   

[Soul Crusher]

Again, for the 22nd time, I didn't vote for him.

That's all you ever do every time you are called out.

You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him!  You voted for him! 


give it a rest already.   

We should be fully communist by 2015 right?   

We are racing there rapidly as it is.     

[OzmO]

We are racing there rapidly as it is.     

That's right!

 

[Soul Crusher]

That's right!

 

i'll Bump Straws thread where I showed his stupid ass that a lot ofthe communist agenda is already in place.   

[OzmO]

i'll Bump Straws thread where I showed his stupid ass that a lot ofthe communist agenda is already in place.  

Yeah, you better get your ass over to the white house right now and storm the gate in the name of preserving the USA!

I'd join you, but flying eastward would get me there too late.  

[George Whorewell]

No George, even through all your stupid sarcasm (which is about 90% of what you post along with insults) you don't understand my point of view.    Which is par for the course for you because your main point of posting seems to be insulting anyone who doesn't exactly agree with you.  What an asshole.  

There some 600 coal power plants in the USA.  Coal needs to be phased out PERIOD.   Not right this second, not in the next year, but in the next 20-30 years.  And as we have ridiculous restrictions on building new nuclear power plants those need to end right now.  Nuclear energy is far better, safer and cleaner.  

And sure lets sell coal to who ever buys its.

Coal does not need to be phased out. Think about what you just said! If America has more coal power than the entire worlds oil reserves combined, why the fuck would we want to let that go to waste?! Its the same stupid argument I hear from people trumpeting the end of gasoline. The entire world (minus the sissy's in Europe) is bending over backwards for oil exploration to grow their nation's economy while we sit on our asses and let tons of natural resources sit in the ground. Meanwhile, we would rather pay Brazil to conduct offshore drilling, let China suck up the planets petrol and sit idly by without lifting a finger to build more nuclear power plants. What is America actively doing during the biggest economic downturn in 80 years? Bribing people to buy electric cars that don't work, subsidizing ethanol and pushing a "green" agenda that is likely to grow the economy when I crap unicorns.

  Nuclear power cannot and will not be a viable alternative until the regulatory red tape is removed ( Which will never happen with Obama at the helm or when the EPA/ NRC have as much power as they do). What you fail to acknowledge is that Obama and his cronies are actively committed to harming this country. They want sky high gas prices, economic unrest and high unemployment. The goal is to have everyone dependent on government.

In the meanwhile, we cannot keep shooting ourselves in the foot on purpose. You say we agree on 90% of this issue? You're dead wrong. The only thing we agree on is more nuclear power, which is nice-- but will do nothing in the short term.  

[OzmO]

Coal does not need to be phased out. Think about what you just said! If America has more coal power than the entire worlds oil reserves combined, why the fuck would we want to let that go to waste?! Its the same stupid argument I hear from people trumpeting the end of gasoline. The entire world (minus the sissy's in Europe) is bending over backwards for oil exploration to grow their nation's economy while we sit on our asses and let tons of natural resources sit in the ground. Meanwhile, we would rather pay Brazil to conduct offshore drilling, let China suck up the planets petrol and sit idly by without lifting a finger to build more nuclear power plants. What is America actively doing during the biggest economic downturn in 80 years? Bribing people to buy electric cars that don't work, subsidizing ethanol and pushing a "green" agenda that is likely to grow the economy when I crap unicorns.

  Nuclear power cannot and will not be a viable alternative until the regulatory red tape is removed ( Which will never happen with Obama at the helm or when the EPA/ NRC have as much power as they do). What you fail to acknowledge is that Obama and his cronies are actively committed to harming this country. They want sky high gas prices, economic unrest and high unemployment. The goal is to have everyone dependent on government.

In the meanwhile, we cannot keep shooting ourselves in the foot on purpose. You say we agree on 90% of this issue? You're dead wrong. The only thing we agree on is more nuclear power, which is nice-- but will do nothing in the short term.  

Where did I say we agree on 90% of this issue?  On that post the only time i used "90%" is in reference to your constant sarcasm and insults. 

Coal needs to be phased out.  We can sell it to the rest of the world, but it is an outdated form of energy that pollutes, kills, etc.

I am not talking about off shore drilling, gas or what ever you are trying to lump me into including the "green agenda".   

So drop your stupid act for a moment.     

Nuclear energy is best, now and in the future. 

Bush eased some regulations, hopefully the next pres will do more. 

[George Whorewell]

Where did I say we agree on 90% of this issue?  On that post the only time i used "90%" is in reference to your constant sarcasm and insults. 

Coal needs to be phased out.  We can sell it to the rest of the world, but it is an outdated form of energy that pollutes, kills, etc.

I am not talking about off shore drilling, gas or what ever you are trying to lump me into including the "green agenda".   

So drop your stupid act for a moment.     

Nuclear energy is best, now and in the future. 

Bush eased some regulations, hopefully the next pres will do more. 

Well, you mostly agree with me. 

 Explain to me why we should flush money down the toilet? The rest of the world will continue to use it and we are going to stop because of "global warming"? Your nuclear idea is completely unrealistic in the short term. People need jobs and cheap energy now. And even if the next President is 100% pro Nuclear, the regulatory agencies in place that keep a tight grip on the Nuclear industry+ the snail's pace of the legal system will ensure that the process of building a nuclear plant remains slow and stagnant.

[OzmO]

Well, you mostly agree with me. 

 Explain to me why we should flush money down the toilet? The rest of the world will continue to use it and we are going to stop because of "global warming"? Your nuclear idea is completely unrealistic in the short term. People need jobs and cheap energy now. And even if the next President is 100% pro Nuclear, the regulatory agencies in place that keep a tight grip on the Nuclear industry+ the snail's pace of the legal system will ensure that the process of building a nuclear plant remains slow and stagnant.

I mostly agree with you followed by an eye roll?  WTF is that supposed to mean?  You said, I said we agree 90%.  Show me where i said that.  If i did then we can talk about it.

Let the rest of the world use it.  We can be the biggest supplier.  I don't care.  When did i bring up global warming?  I don't believe in global warming, i believe in global cooling.   

Coal is bad.  Coal is outdated.  The sooner coal is gone, the sooner chains on nuclear energy will be loosen.  Like i said i don't know if what Obama is doing is best or for the reasons he should be doing it.  But coal must go in the next quarter century.